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Hummm Cy,

That is perplexing to me that your first exposure to the thought that he

might have MPGN 3 would be in this dictation. I would definitely be interested

in seeing what the Neph has to say about this and what has led to this

conclusion.

Please do keep us posted when you get a reply from 's Neph on this.

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In a message dated 5/14/2005 11:03:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

cyashleywebb@... writes:

Just rec'd 's neph's dictated report re his visit this week.

Everything was expressed in the same glowing terms that I mentioned earlier.

One thing was very peculiar however: the dictation states that has

MPGN 3. I'm somewhat perplexed because his biopsy didn't indicate which

type of MPGN. Previous conversations with the nephrology fellow and the

attending indicate that no one wanted to call it, but it fell somewhere

between MPGN 1 and MPGN 2 - and they were leaning towards MPGN 1. This

reference to MPGN 3 is baffling (not the least because once we listened to

the attending discourse as to why he thought MPGN 3 didn't really exist).

Hmmmm.... This will be an email later to the neph...

Cy

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Hello Cy,

Please, what is MPGN 1, 2 and 3?

Thank you

Cathy......Jennell's Mom

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From: iga-nephropathy

[mailto:iga-nephropathy ] On Behalf Of Cy Webb

Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:04 AM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: very peculiar

Just rec'd 's neph's dictated report re his visit this week.

Everything was expressed in the same glowing terms that I mentioned earlier.

One thing was very peculiar however: the dictation states that has

MPGN 3. I'm somewhat perplexed because his biopsy didn't indicate which

type of MPGN. Previous conversations with the nephrology fellow and the

attending indicate that no one wanted to call it, but it fell somewhere

between MPGN 1 and MPGN 2 - and they were leaning towards MPGN 1. This

reference to MPGN 3 is baffling (not the least because once we listened to

the attending discourse as to why he thought MPGN 3 didn't really exist).

Hmmmm.... This will be an email later to the neph...

Cy

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Hi Cathy,

MPGN ( membranoproliferative glomerular nephritis) is a very rare disease

that is similar to IgAN in many ways - only more extreme. MPGN patients

tend to have worse proteinuria, progress faster, have low C3 and C4 and

there is a small handful of other symptoms (i.e anemia can arise

independantly of the usual renal means, immune deposits can also be found on

the retina). MPGN 1, 2 and 3 are different varients that are

distinguishable upon biopsy. Knowing which can give you a heads up as to

how fast it progresses and what other symptoms arise. MPGN 2 is the most

aggressive varient - the rate of graft loss due to recurrence is 95%. It

is also occationally associated with blindness due to retinal deposits.

MPGN 3 is the rarest - and very little is known about it.

Cy

very peculiar

>

>

> Just rec'd 's neph's dictated report re his visit this week.

> Everything was expressed in the same glowing terms that I mentioned

> earlier.

>

> One thing was very peculiar however: the dictation states that has

> MPGN 3. I'm somewhat perplexed because his biopsy didn't indicate which

> type of MPGN. Previous conversations with the nephrology fellow and the

> attending indicate that no one wanted to call it, but it fell somewhere

> between MPGN 1 and MPGN 2 - and they were leaning towards MPGN 1. This

> reference to MPGN 3 is baffling (not the least because once we listened to

> the attending discourse as to why he thought MPGN 3 didn't really exist).

> Hmmmm.... This will be an email later to the neph...

>

> Cy

>

>

>

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> by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

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Thank you Cy

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From: iga-nephropathy

[mailto:iga-nephropathy ] On Behalf Of Cy Webb

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:49 AM

To: iga-nephropathy

Subject: Re: very peculiar

Hi Cathy,

MPGN ( membranoproliferative glomerular nephritis) is a very rare disease

that is similar to IgAN in many ways - only more extreme. MPGN patients

tend to have worse proteinuria, progress faster, have low C3 and C4 and

there is a small handful of other symptoms (i.e anemia can arise

independantly of the usual renal means, immune deposits can also be found on

the retina). MPGN 1, 2 and 3 are different varients that are

distinguishable upon biopsy. Knowing which can give you a heads up as to

how fast it progresses and what other symptoms arise. MPGN 2 is the most

aggressive varient - the rate of graft loss due to recurrence is 95%. It

is also occationally associated with blindness due to retinal deposits.

MPGN 3 is the rarest - and very little is known about it.

Cy

very peculiar

>

>

> Just rec'd 's neph's dictated report re his visit this week.

> Everything was expressed in the same glowing terms that I mentioned

> earlier.

>

> One thing was very peculiar however: the dictation states that has

> MPGN 3. I'm somewhat perplexed because his biopsy didn't indicate which

> type of MPGN. Previous conversations with the nephrology fellow and the

> attending indicate that no one wanted to call it, but it fell somewhere

> between MPGN 1 and MPGN 2 - and they were leaning towards MPGN 1. This

> reference to MPGN 3 is baffling (not the least because once we listened to

> the attending discourse as to why he thought MPGN 3 didn't really exist).

> Hmmmm.... This will be an email later to the neph...

>

> Cy

>

>

>

>

> To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group

> home page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

>

> To unsubcribe via email,

> iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

> Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported

> by donations. If you would like to help, go to:

> http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

>

> Thank you

>

>

>

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>

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