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hi liz-

here's my biased 2 cents worth,

(these are only suggestions).

you can always push the surgery date back

until you know exactly what you are getting into.

don't let that pressure you.

get copies of your x-rays and send them to a few

different resurfacing doctors to get their diagnosis

to seen if you are a candidate for resurfacing.

write out a 1-2 page description of your medical

history, particularly this hip problem. i did this and

sent it along with my x-rays, the doctors said that

it was very helpful to have that background info

while evaluating your x-rays. (some people use a

digital camera to take pictures of their x-rays to

e-mail to prospective surgeons, it's cheaper & faster).

find out EXACTLY what your insurance coverage

policy states with regard to hip resurfacing. you

may or may not be covered for resurfacing.

research the wright medical technologies " BFH "

conserve total hip system with large diameter

metal-metal bearing and modular cementless

stem design.

http://www.wmt.com/Physicians/Products/Hips/CONSERVETotalHipSystem.asp

this system provides many of the

advantages of a hip resurfacing. some of the

" hippies " here have these in lieu of a re-surf

and have given glowing reports.

find a resurf doctor who uses conserve+ parts,

they will also have this system on hand and can

select the most appropriate device for you during

surgery if you are a borderline re-surf candidate.

and finally, imho, keep doing what you are doing. it seems

to take a little while to get up to speed with all of the

great information that is bantied about on this board

and the related websites.

best of luck, keep giving updates of what you discover.

jeff

left...no right...wait, left hip / desmet / 11-19-2003

(i'm almost positive it's my left hip that was operated on).

I want a BHR but surgeon is recommending THR ceramic

I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

yards induces pain.

To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

time deciding what would be the best procedure.

I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

cemented type with ceramic bearings.

I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

particularly suitable for younger patients.

Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

in " I don't think it would be practical. "

I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

Metal and resurf is the way to go.

What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

my surgeon right?

I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

What questions should I be asking?

Looking forward to your replies

thanks

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hi liz-

here's my biased 2 cents worth,

(these are only suggestions).

you can always push the surgery date back

until you know exactly what you are getting into.

don't let that pressure you.

get copies of your x-rays and send them to a few

different resurfacing doctors to get their diagnosis

to seen if you are a candidate for resurfacing.

write out a 1-2 page description of your medical

history, particularly this hip problem. i did this and

sent it along with my x-rays, the doctors said that

it was very helpful to have that background info

while evaluating your x-rays. (some people use a

digital camera to take pictures of their x-rays to

e-mail to prospective surgeons, it's cheaper & faster).

find out EXACTLY what your insurance coverage

policy states with regard to hip resurfacing. you

may or may not be covered for resurfacing.

research the wright medical technologies " BFH "

conserve total hip system with large diameter

metal-metal bearing and modular cementless

stem design.

http://www.wmt.com/Physicians/Products/Hips/CONSERVETotalHipSystem.asp

this system provides many of the

advantages of a hip resurfacing. some of the

" hippies " here have these in lieu of a re-surf

and have given glowing reports.

find a resurf doctor who uses conserve+ parts,

they will also have this system on hand and can

select the most appropriate device for you during

surgery if you are a borderline re-surf candidate.

and finally, imho, keep doing what you are doing. it seems

to take a little while to get up to speed with all of the

great information that is bantied about on this board

and the related websites.

best of luck, keep giving updates of what you discover.

jeff

left...no right...wait, left hip / desmet / 11-19-2003

(i'm almost positive it's my left hip that was operated on).

I want a BHR but surgeon is recommending THR ceramic

I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

yards induces pain.

To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

time deciding what would be the best procedure.

I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

cemented type with ceramic bearings.

I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

particularly suitable for younger patients.

Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

in " I don't think it would be practical. "

I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

Metal and resurf is the way to go.

What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

my surgeon right?

I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

What questions should I be asking?

Looking forward to your replies

thanks

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Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@...) what he

thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

your options actually are.

Best of luck!

> I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

> then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

> like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

> Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

> yards induces pain.

> To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

> that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

> time deciding what would be the best procedure.

>

> I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

> he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

> she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

> tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

> cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

> up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> particularly suitable for younger patients.

>

> Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

> he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

> in " I don't think it would be practical. "

>

> I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

> Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

> my surgeon right?

> I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

> the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

>

> What questions should I be asking?

>

> Looking forward to your replies

> thanks

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Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@...) what he

thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

your options actually are.

Best of luck!

> I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

> then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

> like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

> Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

> yards induces pain.

> To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

> that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

> time deciding what would be the best procedure.

>

> I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

> he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

> she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

> tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

> cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

> up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> particularly suitable for younger patients.

>

> Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

> he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

> in " I don't think it would be practical. "

>

> I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

> Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

> my surgeon right?

> I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

> the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

>

> What questions should I be asking?

>

> Looking forward to your replies

> thanks

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What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I don't know if

ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust my surgeon right?

I'm assuming you live in the states and are not on some kind of NHS waiting

list. If I'm assuming correctly, you can easily postpone or flat out cancel the

surgery. I would want to be absolutely sure of my decision before going in for

surgery. A friend of mine who is a nurse says she knows many docs who won't

operate if you are not sure, as they don't believe the results are as good as

for those who are happy with their decision. Ask lots of questions, maybe get a

second or third opinion from another resurf surgeon, ask him/her to explain

their reasoning.

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I don't know if

ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust my surgeon right?

I'm assuming you live in the states and are not on some kind of NHS waiting

list. If I'm assuming correctly, you can easily postpone or flat out cancel the

surgery. I would want to be absolutely sure of my decision before going in for

surgery. A friend of mine who is a nurse says she knows many docs who won't

operate if you are not sure, as they don't believe the results are as good as

for those who are happy with their decision. Ask lots of questions, maybe get a

second or third opinion from another resurf surgeon, ask him/her to explain

their reasoning.

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I don't know if

ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust my surgeon right?

I'm assuming you live in the states and are not on some kind of NHS waiting

list. If I'm assuming correctly, you can easily postpone or flat out cancel the

surgery. I would want to be absolutely sure of my decision before going in for

surgery. A friend of mine who is a nurse says she knows many docs who won't

operate if you are not sure, as they don't believe the results are as good as

for those who are happy with their decision. Ask lots of questions, maybe get a

second or third opinion from another resurf surgeon, ask him/her to explain

their reasoning.

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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I absolutely agree. Sounds like you live in the UK? It is your body and this

decision will be with you for the rest of your life. You owe it to yourself to

choose what you think is best for you. Sounds like your surgeon doesn't do the

BHR? I have found the surgeons are not saints. For the most part they can be

advocates for their patients, however often they consider other factors-

compensation is one, or he may want to do a ceramic THR to fill a quotient.

Just be absolutely sure that you are happy with YOUR choice. Good luck.

Kind Regards,

Rock climbin' Jude

LBHR De Smet 09/11/02

Re: I want a BHR but surgeon is recommending THR ceramic

Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@...) what he

thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

your options actually are.

Best of luck!

> I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

> then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

> like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

> Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

> yards induces pain.

> To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

> that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

> time deciding what would be the best procedure.

>

> I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

> he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

> she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

> tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

> cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

> up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> particularly suitable for younger patients.

>

> Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

> he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

> in " I don't think it would be practical. "

>

> I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

> Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

> my surgeon right?

> I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

> the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

>

> What questions should I be asking?

>

> Looking forward to your replies

> thanks

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I absolutely agree. Sounds like you live in the UK? It is your body and this

decision will be with you for the rest of your life. You owe it to yourself to

choose what you think is best for you. Sounds like your surgeon doesn't do the

BHR? I have found the surgeons are not saints. For the most part they can be

advocates for their patients, however often they consider other factors-

compensation is one, or he may want to do a ceramic THR to fill a quotient.

Just be absolutely sure that you are happy with YOUR choice. Good luck.

Kind Regards,

Rock climbin' Jude

LBHR De Smet 09/11/02

Re: I want a BHR but surgeon is recommending THR ceramic

Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@...) what he

thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

your options actually are.

Best of luck!

> I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

> then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

> like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

> Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

> yards induces pain.

> To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

> that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

> time deciding what would be the best procedure.

>

> I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

> he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

> she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

> tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

> cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

> up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> particularly suitable for younger patients.

>

> Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

> he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

> in " I don't think it would be practical. "

>

> I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

> Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

> my surgeon right?

> I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

> the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

>

> What questions should I be asking?

>

> Looking forward to your replies

> thanks

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I absolutely agree. Sounds like you live in the UK? It is your body and this

decision will be with you for the rest of your life. You owe it to yourself to

choose what you think is best for you. Sounds like your surgeon doesn't do the

BHR? I have found the surgeons are not saints. For the most part they can be

advocates for their patients, however often they consider other factors-

compensation is one, or he may want to do a ceramic THR to fill a quotient.

Just be absolutely sure that you are happy with YOUR choice. Good luck.

Kind Regards,

Rock climbin' Jude

LBHR De Smet 09/11/02

Re: I want a BHR but surgeon is recommending THR ceramic

Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@...) what he

thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

your options actually are.

Best of luck!

> I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2 and

> then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my hip

> like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess pain.

> Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a few

> yards induces pain.

> To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he said

> that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend some

> time deciding what would be the best procedure.

>

> I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which option

> he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary and

> she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered to

> tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be a

> cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and read

> up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> particularly suitable for younger patients.

>

> Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually says

> he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> secretary must have been skim reading and missed the word " don't "

> in " I don't think it would be practical. "

>

> I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be Metal on

> Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to trust

> my surgeon right?

> I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because of

> the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

>

> What questions should I be asking?

>

> Looking forward to your replies

> thanks

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Yes, I'm from the UK, but fortunately have company medical insurance

so the operation will be done privately. My consultant is quite

pioneering and does do the BHR and also is one of only 3 surgeons in

the UK who have performed keyhole THR with just 3 incisions - so I

think he would do anything he thought was possible for me.

The consultant has just come back and he has explained he had

measured my x-rays and that it would not be technically possible to

perform a Birmingham resurfacing on my joint because of the deformity

of the femur head. He also says he has consulted other colleagues who

agree with him. He is therefore recommending a cementless total hip

replacement with ceramic bearings which has been used for longer than

MoM and there is more evidence that they are beneficial.

Any thoughts from you hippies?!!

Meanwhile I'm trying to beg and borrow various equipment that may aid

me when I'm out - are there any lists anywhere of suggested items

that are must haves?

So far I have:

toilet bars (to help me get up)

grabber

high up/high back easy chair

2 weeks to go ...... gulp!

> > I'm 32 who had late diagnosis of R CDH, had frog plaster at 2

and

> > then rotational osteotomy at 5. I was doing fine, treating my

hip

> > like an old car and not doing too much to induce any excess

pain.

> > Since October the pain has become unbearable - even walking a

few

> > yards induces pain.

> > To cut a long story short I saw a surgeon and 2 weeks ago he

said

> > that it looked like surgery was the only option. He would spend

some

> > time deciding what would be the best procedure.

> >

> > I was getting worried as I hadn't heard from my surgeon which

option

> > he would advise so on Tuesday I spoke to my surgeon's secretary

and

> > she told me that a letter had been sent to me and then offered

to

> > tell me what was in the letter. She said he thought it would be

> > practical to perform a BHR. She then went on to say it would be

a

> > cemented type with ceramic bearings.

> > I got straight onto the web and followed your various links and

read

> > up about BHR - which I can see is a fantastic procedure and

> > particularly suitable for younger patients.

> >

> > Then I actually got the letter yesterday. Reading it he actually

says

> > he *doesn't* think it would be practical to perform a BHR. The

> > secretary must have been skim reading and missed the

word " don't "

> > in " I don't think it would be practical. "

> >

> > I'm gutted. Everything I have been reading says it should be

Metal on

> > Metal and resurf is the way to go.

> > What shall I do now? The operation is booked for 2nd April and I

> > don't know if ceramic is the right thing to do but I've got to

trust

> > my surgeon right?

> > I know I have a dysplastic hip and the femur is damaged because

of

> > the late diagnosis but ............. why can't I have a resurf?

> >

> > What questions should I be asking?

> >

> > Looking forward to your replies

> > thanks

>

>

>

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I believe " tobhrornottobhr " already gave you the very best advice

you'll get here: " Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@s...)

what he thinks of your situation. " (See his post from 3/4/03 below.)

Jim V.S.

LHBR, De Smet, 11/25/03

> > I absolutely agree. Sounds like you live in the UK? It is your

> body and this decision will be with you for the rest of your life.

> You owe it to yourself to choose what you think is best for you.

> Sounds like your surgeon doesn't do the BHR? I have found the

> surgeons are not saints. For the most part they can be advocates

for

> their patients, however often they consider other factors-

> compensation is one, or he may want to do a ceramic THR to fill a

> quotient. Just be absolutely sure that you are happy with YOUR

> choice. Good luck.

> >

> > Kind Regards,

> > Rock climbin' Jude

> > LBHR De Smet 09/11/02

> >

> > Re: I want a BHR but surgeon is

> recommending THR ceramic

> >

> > Good question! Don't take " no " for an answer without specific good

> > reason. Ask Dr Koen De Smet in Belgium (koen.desmet@s...) what he

> > thinks of your situation. He just resurfed two women with similar

> > histories to yours so he'll be able to tell you better than I what

> > your options actually are.

> > Best of luck!

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