Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Phyllis... man I hope some day I am as full of wisdom as you are! Thank you for that in depth explanation. I am sure I will learn a lot of this in school (getting started this month!), I have been reading and you are right in line with what I have read! Melisa ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Did you hear? Breast is Best! Certified Lactation Counselor IBCLC Exam Candidate Homeopathic Counselor in training www.nurturingmama.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 The safest best is no vaccinations period. If you are in a state that allows for an exemption, use it. Otherwise, move to a state that does. The risk is far too great to take with your six month old. If your pediatrician disagrees, find a different pediatrician. S. Hooker, Ph.D., P.E. brian@... ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:11:41 -0000 >From: " ryderskye " <demarias@...> >Subject: [ ] Immunization question > > >Hi, > >I have a 2.5-year-old son w/ ASD. I have a 6 month old daughter who >is due for immunizations in a few weeks (DTaP and HIB, according to >my son's immunization card from when he was 6 months old). My >question is: what is a sufficient amount of time to wait between >the two vaccines? My son had them both on the same day and I would >like my daughter to have them separately. I absolutely want my >children to be immunized, I just want it done the safest way >possible. Any info would be helpful. > >Thanks, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 If you are totally sure you want to vaccinate your child the recommendations are 1. Never vaccinate a sick child 2. Wait at least 2 months between vaccinations 3. Do no combo vaccines (ex. Measles vaccine alone) 4. There is a homeopathic pre-vaccination kit that is suppose to prepare your child's immune system for vaccinations. Here is the website http://www.celletech.com/ 5. If possible, wait until the child is at least 5 years old (stronger immune system) 6. Make sure Thimerosal free (other additives are used to replace thirmerosal...like aluminum that is also a neuro toxin) I personally do not endorse vaccinations. I have a vaccine free daughter who is 14 months. Every time I take her to the doctor, her pediatrician tells me that she is developmentally beyond her age group. Talked by 4 months, walked by 9 months and so on. She does have milk allergies like my son (4 yrs old ASD) but that is no big deal. I wish I knew then what I know now and never vaccinated my son. Likewise, the medical community makes you feel like your a bad parent or crazy if you don't vaccinate. I do not mean to preach. And I apologize if I have offended you. I just don't want you to have regrets later. Your second child may have no issues at all with being vaccinated but there is a greater chance now that you have a history of autism. I recently became involved with a family that has 4 autistic children (all vaccinated) and it is just sad. Let me get off my soap box. Marilyn Edge ryderskye <demarias@...> wrote: Hi, I have a 2.5-year-old son w/ ASD. I have a 6 month old daughter who is due for immunizations in a few weeks (DTaP and HIB, according to my son's immunization card from when he was 6 months old). My question is: what is a sufficient amount of time to wait between the two vaccines? My son had them both on the same day and I would like my daughter to have them separately. I absolutely want my children to be immunized, I just want it done the safest way possible. Any info would be helpful. Thanks, ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Well stated - I do mean to preach: My son was vaccinated receiving the highest dosage of thimerosal possible. He has a heavy metals excretion disorder and received a dx of autism at 18 months. Subsequently, my twin nieces received their vaccinations after their mother received a Rho-gam shot at 28 weeks gestation. The rho-gam had thimerosal and the thimerosal content of the vax were indeterminate as the manufacturers stopped releasing the information on these lots. The twins received autism dx at 30 months (both twins that is)... Bottom line - don't vaccinate if you know you are dealing with ANY developmental malady. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:40:22 -0700 (PDT) >From: kay edge <jaelen_n_faithsmom@...> >Subject: Re: [ ] Immunization question > > > > >If you are totally sure you want to vaccinate your child the recommendations are > >1. Never vaccinate a sick child >2. Wait at least 2 months between vaccinations >3. Do no combo vaccines (ex. Measles vaccine alone) >4. There is a homeopathic pre-vaccination kit that is suppose to prepare your child's immune system for vaccinations. Here is the website http://www.celletech.com/ >5. If possible, wait until the child is at least 5 years old (stronger immune system) >6. Make sure Thimerosal free (other additives are used to replace thirmerosal...like aluminum that is also a neuro toxin) > >I personally do not endorse vaccinations. I have a vaccine free daughter who is 14 months. Every time I take her to the doctor, her pediatrician tells me that she is developmentally beyond her age group. Talked by 4 months, walked by 9 months and so on. She does have milk allergies like my son (4 yrs old ASD) but that is no big deal. > >I wish I knew then what I know now and never vaccinated my son. Likewise, the medical community makes you feel like your a bad parent or crazy if you don't vaccinate. > >I do not mean to preach. And I apologize if I have offended you. I just don't want you to have regrets later. Your second child may have no issues at all with being vaccinated but there is a greater chance now that you have a history of autism. I recently became involved with a family that has 4 autistic children (all vaccinated) and it is just sad. > >Let me get off my soap box. > >Marilyn Edge > > > >ryderskye <demarias@...> wrote: >Hi, > >I have a 2.5-year-old son w/ ASD. I have a 6 month old daughter who >is due for immunizations in a few weeks (DTaP and HIB, according to >my son's immunization card from when he was 6 months old). My >question is: what is a sufficient amount of time to wait between >the two vaccines? My son had them both on the same day and I would >like my daughter to have them separately. I absolutely want my >children to be immunized, I just want it done the safest way >possible. Any info would be helpful. > >Thanks, > > > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 And DONT take a flu vaccine if you are pregnant! Or any vaccine if you are pregnant! > Well stated - I do mean to preach: > > My son was vaccinated receiving the highest dosage of > thimerosal possible. He has a heavy metals excretion > disorder and received a dx of autism at 18 months. > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 >>I absolutely want my > children to be immunized, I just want it done the safest way > possible. My info http://www.danasview.net/myvaxopn.htm The DAN protocol http://tacanow.com/danprotocal.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 , if you are determined to vaccinate her, then email me off list and I will send you a write-up that I did for my nephew/wife who will be vaxing their child in some alternate schedule and the writeup contains some reasonable tips to make a safer schedule, however, you do need to think about the fact that even if you space out the vaccines, your child can still have bad effects from them. Everyone is unique and given that she has an ASD brother, it's entirely possible that her " effects " from her shots will be more along the lines of sensory integration dysfunction and adhd types of things. That's how things were in our family. The boy was much more affected, and the girl is much much more mild, but still has gut issues, lack of pancreatic enzymes, muscle tone issues, hyperactive issues, etc. The sensory issues I was able to get rid of with epsom salt baths and some mineral and amino's supplementation and some low- dose dmsa chelation, but she still has issues with muscle tone, digestion, constipation, sleep. So, it's something to think about. Also, isn't it written in medical text that the liver doesn't really produce much bile until around six months of age, nor is the blood brain barrier fully " intact " at that age? Personally, I would not start vaxing at 6 months-- I'd probably wait a bit longer and then I would space them out with 6 months to a year between any shots, and I certainly wouldn't do all of the shots recommended and I'd run titers to see if boosters were even needed. I'd stay away from all live virus vaxes (mmr and varicella), would not give any tylenol before or after... well, you get the picture. I'm just saying that even by adopting a modified vax schedule, if you have a susceptible child, they are still susceptible no matter how few shots you do or how far apart they are spaced. They can still have some effects from the vaccines. It's something you should think about-- I would not make your decision " in a few weeks " . I would get the checkup done, and tell them that you will come in for a shot at a later date and continue to do your research. You should also be aware that on the cdc's own website for vaccine contraindications and list of ingredients, they do list out which vaccines still have the full amount (25 mcg's) of mercury and which ones have been processed through to have 3 mcg's or less of mercury in them, etc. etc. So you should really have all that information set so that you can find out what is in the vaccines you are choosing to give, if you still choose to give them. It's also helpful to read through the contraindications chart to see if you see your family in that chart. If I look at their descriptions about allergies, seizures, etc. then I would have thought twice about vaxing my daughter. Just because the CHILD doesn't have those problems (yet), if the family has a hx of them, then I would say--exercise a very cautious approach to vaccinating. W > Hi, > > I have a 2.5-year-old son w/ ASD. I have a 6 month old daughter who > is due for immunizations in a few weeks (DTaP and HIB, according to > my son's immunization card from when he was 6 months old). My > question is: what is a sufficient amount of time to wait between > the two vaccines? My son had them both on the same day and I would > like my daughter to have them separately. I absolutely want my > children to be immunized, I just want it done the safest way > possible. Any info would be helpful. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 kim.doll70 wrote: > any medical people here? > does anyone know if a person could test positive for mumps, measles > rubella in an mmr titer test but not really be contagious? can any of > those be like herpes where u might show antibodies but never been > sick? or maybe i am explaining it wrong, but anyway situation is work > did a titer test on me to doublecheck and i dont know results yet, > ihad vax as kid but they say its too oldschool so checking. > i just dont want to have to get vax, cus of thimerasol aluminum etc If the titer is positive, it means you were exposed to the virus at some point in time and your body produced antibodies. You may or may not have had symptoms. Many people have rubella and never realize it. I'm one of those. My titer was positive, but I don't ever recall having the disease. The symptoms were probably so mild, I never realized I was sick. Jeri <teewinot13@...> @>--->---->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<----<---<@ Dr. Pall's NO/ONOO- Theory/Treatment Discussion Group: TenthParadigmSociety @>----------<---------->----------<----------<----------<@ The Tenth Paradigm Society for CFS, MCS, FM, PTSD, GWS & others: http://www.geocities.com/tenthparadigm @-----------<---------->----------<----------<----------<@ MCS-Florida - For All Chemically Sensitive Floridians MCS-Florida ---------- ---------- No Viruses Detected. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 remind me how that works?so they are checking my titers for what? i told the nurse i had mumps as a kid and i had the vax they offered back in the 60s for kids for all that. i dont understand how it works, she said it was good i had chicken pox so dont need to check for that, but she said mumps is dif and just cus i had that not enough evidence cus there are dif kinds. but then they must want me to have antibodies and if i dont thats not good or if they are too high thats the problem? what will it be that would require a vax? > > any medical people here? > > does anyone know if a person could test positive for mumps, measles > > rubella in an mmr titer test but not really be contagious? can any of > > those be like herpes where u might show antibodies but never been > > sick? or maybe i am explaining it wrong, but anyway situation is work > > did a titer test on me to doublecheck and i dont know results yet, > > ihad vax as kid but they say its too oldschool so checking. > > i just dont want to have to get vax, cus of thimerasol aluminum etc > > If the titer is positive, it means you were exposed to the virus at some > point in time and your body produced antibodies. You may or may not > have had symptoms. Many people have rubella and never realize it. I'm > one of those. My titer was positive, but I don't ever recall having the > disease. The symptoms were probably so mild, I never realized I was sick. > > Jeri <teewinot13@...> > @>--->---->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<----<---<@ > Dr. Pall's NO/ONOO- Theory/Treatment Discussion Group: > TenthParadigmSociety > @>----------<---------->----------<----------<----------<@ > The Tenth Paradigm Society for CFS, MCS, FM, PTSD, GWS & others: > http://www.geocities.com/tenthparadigm > @-----------<---------->----------<----------<----------<@ > MCS-Florida - For All Chemically Sensitive Floridians > MCS-Florida > > ---------- > > > ---------- > > > No Viruses Detected. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 6:54 PM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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