Re: high metals-no symptoms-chelate?

[Guest guest]

--My son is 5 now and at 2 had a hair test showing the same levels of

antimony and lead and he was normal in EVERY way x-cept he would slap

me when he did not get his way and was a terrible sleeper. He would

also pull the cats tail and fur (wich can be typical in a 15 month

old) but when I tried to tell him no he would get angry and hit me and

no matter how many times I tried to teach him NO it would haave no

effect. As he got older toward 2 he started to have sensory issues and

ocd issues with the rest of his speech, comprehension, socialization,

completely fine and on the money and even way ahead in his learning.

So I think things could change rapidly over the next 6 months. I would

not get him ANY more shots either. My son is doing much better but

life was a nightmare because his behavior was so bad. As he got older

and obsessed over everything he would throw tantrums that rocked the

house may times a day and even if he woke in the middle of the night

he would start screaming. Lead does effect behavior I am convinced. It

is weird as all you hear about lead is IQ problems but my sons IQ is

high. BEHAVIOR is our issue. We didnt start any intervention until he

was 2.5 as we did not know about all this until then. I wish we had

known when he was 15 months old. Good luck

Patti

- In , " nolalead " <nolalead@y...> wrote:

> I have a 15 month old who had higher than I liked blood lead levels

> (8.9), so I got his

> hair tested at DDI for this and other metals. He is 'in the red'

> (over 95th precentile) in

> antimony, arsenic, lead and tin. He is high in other metals too. His

> total toxic

> representation is 100% (chart is below)

>

> My son has not been diagnosed with autism and seems healthy thus far.

> He does hit

> his head with his hands a little more than makes me comfortable and

> still wakes up 3

> or 4 times in the night (though he is cosleeping and still

> breastfeeding) Other than that he is very social, happy, etc.

Anyway, with =

>

> metals so high, do I chelate even without symptoms? And I wonder,

> does this

> definately mean he will have problems, or can some bodies handle this

> stuff?

>

> Thank you.

>

> Toxic Elements DDI labs

> result reference

> Aluminum 18 < 8.0 yellow 80%

> Antimony 0.25 < 0.066 red 96%

> Arsenic 0.31 < 0.08 red 97%

> Beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> Bismuth 0.046 < 0.13 green

> Cadmium 0.18 < 0.15 yellow 69%

> Lead 6.5 < 1.0 red 97%

> Mercury 0.03 < 0.4 no line

> Platinum <0.003 < 0.005 no line

> Thallium <0.001 < 0.010 no line

> Thorium <0.004 < 0.005 green

> Uranium 0.018 < 0.06 green

> Nickel 0.24 < 0.40 green

> Silver 0.52 < 0.20 yellow 75%

> Tin 1.5 < 0.3 red 98%

> Titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow

>

> Total Toxic Representation red 100% line continues off chart

>

> Elements

> result reference

> Calcium 253; 125 - 370 green high

> Magnesium 15; 12 - 30 green low

> Sodium 180; 12 - 90 yellow high

> Potassium 470; 12 - 40 red high

> Copper 12; 8 - 16 green high

> Zinc 77; 110 - 190 yellow low

> Manganese 0.18; 0.20 - 0.55 yellow low

> Chromium 0.49; 0.26 - 0.50 green high

> Vanadium 0.086; 0.030 - 0.10 green high

> Molybdenum 0.095; 0.050 - 0.13 green high

> Boron 9.7; 0.60 Ð 4.0 yellow high

> Iodine 1.2; 0.25 - 1.3 green high

> Lithium 0.008; 0.007 - 0.023 green low

> Phosphorous 211; 160 - 250 green high

> Selenium 0.74; 0.95 - 1.7 yellow low

> Strontium 0.47; 0.16 Ð 1.0 green high

> Sulfur 46600; 45500 - 53000 green low

> Barium 0.29; 0.16 - .80 white

> Cobalt 0.011; 0.013 - 0.035 yellow low

> Iron 13; 8.0 - 19 green high

> Germanium 0.053; 0.045 - 0.065 green low

> Rubidium 0.43; .016 - 0.18 yellow high

> Zirconium 0.35; 0.04 Ð 1.0 white

>

> Ratios

> Elements Ratios Expected Range

> Ca/Mg 16.9 4 - 30

> Ca/P 1.2 0.8 - 8

> Na/K .383 0.5 - 10

> Zn/Cu 6.42 4 - 20

> Zn/Cd 428 >800

[Guest guest]

>>He is 'in the red'

> (over 95th precentile) in

> antimony, arsenic, lead and tin. He is high in other metals too.

Consider removing sources of current exposure

http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

> He does hit

> his head with his hands a little more than makes me comfortable and

> still wakes up 3

> or 4 times in the night

This can be food/phenol issues, yeast, or a few other things

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> metals so high, do I chelate even without symptoms?

I chelated my #4 even tho her only real symptoms were food

intolerances, which she no longer has.

> Calcium 253; 125 - 370 green high

> Magnesium 15; 12 - 30 green low

Add magnesium [this helps with sleep also]

> Copper 12; 8 - 16 green high

> Zinc 77; 110 - 190 yellow low

Add zinc

> Selenium 0.74; 0.95 - 1.7 yellow low

Add selenium

Dana

[Guest guest]

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>

I have a 15 month old who had higher than I liked blood lead levels<BR>

(8.9), so I got his <BR>

hair tested at DDI for this and other metals. He is 'in the red'<BR>

(over 95th precentile) in <BR>

antimony, arsenic, lead and tin. He is high in other metals too. His<BR>

total toxic <BR>

representation is 100% (chart is below)<BR>

<BR>

My son has not been diagnosed with autism and seems healthy thus far.<BR>

>

*But no matter how careful we are, in this society we'll continue adding to our

body burden of toxins, through exposure to air pollution, pesticides, etc.etc.

>

He does hit <BR>

his head with his hands a little more than makes me comfortable and<BR>

still wakes up 3 <BR>

or 4 times in the night (though he is cosleeping and still<BR>

breastfeeding) Other than that he is very social, happy, etc. Anyway, with =

<BR>

<BR>

metals so high, do I chelate even without symptoms? And I wonder,<BR>

does this <BR>

definately mean he will have problems, or can some bodies handle this<BR>

stuff?<BR>

>

*Consider identifying and eliminating sources of exposure(www.danasview.net has

a good list), check the counting rules, avoid any further vaccines, avoid fish,

and do NOT let any dentist put mercury amalgam dental fillings in his mouth. I

would certainly chelate, if this were my child. Metal toxicity is cummulative

and shows up in a variety of different ways, not just autism. It can play a

role in developing mental illness, heart disease, Alzheimer's, Parkinsons,

Multiple Sclerosis, etc later in life.

>

<BR>

Thank you.<BR>

<BR>

Toxic Elements DDI labs<BR>

      result reference <BR>

Aluminum 18 < 8.0 yellow 80% <BR>

Antimony 0.25 < 0.066 red 96% <BR>

Arsenic 0.31 < 0.08 red 97% <BR>

Cadmium 0.18 < 0.15 yellow 69% <BR>

Lead 6.5 < 1.0 red 97% <BR>

Silver 0.52 < 0.20 yellow 75% <BR>

Tin 1.5 < 0.3 red 98% <BR>

Titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow<BR>

<BR>

Total Toxic Representation red 100% line continues off chart<BR>

<BR>

Elements <BR>

      result reference <BR>

Calcium 253; 125 - 370 green high <BR>

Magnesium 15; 12 - 30 green low <BR>

Sodium 180; 12 - 90 yellow high<BR>

Potassium 470; 12 - 40 red high <BR>

Copper 12; 8 - 16 green high <BR>

Zinc 77; 110 - 190 yellow low <BR>

Manganese 0.18; 0.20 - 0.55 yellow low <BR>

Chromium 0.49; 0.26 - 0.50 green high <BR>

Vanadium 0.086; 0.030 - 0.10 green high <BR>

Molybdenum 0.095; 0.050 - 0.13 green high <BR>

Boron 9.7; 0.60 Ð 4.0 yellow high <BR>

Iodine 1.2; 0.25 - 1.3 green high <BR>

Lithium 0.008; 0.007 - 0.023 green low <BR>

Phosphorous 211; 160 - 250 green high <BR>

Selenium 0.74; 0.95 - 1.7 yellow low <BR>

Strontium 0.47; 0.16 Ð 1.0 green high <BR>

Sulfur 46600; 45500 - 53000 green low <BR>

Barium 0.29; 0.16 - .80 white <BR>

Cobalt 0.011; 0.013 - 0.035 yellow low <BR>

Iron 13; 8.0 - 19 green high <BR>

Germanium 0.053; 0.045 - 0.065 green low <BR>

Rubidium 0.43; .016 - 0.18 yellow high <BR>

Zirconium 0.35; 0.04 Ð 1.0 white <BR>

<BR>

Ratios<BR>

      Elements Ratios Expected Range <BR>

Ca/Mg 16.9 4 - 30 <BR>

Ca/P 1.2 0.8 - 8 <BR>

Na/K .383 0.5 - 10 <BR>

Zn/Cu 6.42 4 - 20 <BR>

Zn/Cd 428 >800 <BR>

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[Guest guest]

I would definitely chelate him. The sooner the better. The lead alone

is scary. 4 hour DMSA dosing.

Also try to figure out WHERE he is geting the stuff! Which among toher

things means youi get a hair test yourself.

Andy . . . . . . . . . .

> --My son is 5 now and at 2 had a hair test showing the same levels of

> antimony and lead and he was normal in EVERY way x-cept he would slap

> me when he did not get his way and was a terrible sleeper. He would

> also pull the cats tail and fur (wich can be typical in a 15 month

> old) but when I tried to tell him no he would get angry and hit me and

> no matter how many times I tried to teach him NO it would haave no

> effect. As he got older toward 2 he started to have sensory issues and

> ocd issues with the rest of his speech, comprehension, socialization,

> completely fine and on the money and even way ahead in his learning.

> So I think things could change rapidly over the next 6 months. I would

> not get him ANY more shots either. My son is doing much better but

> life was a nightmare because his behavior was so bad. As he got older

> and obsessed over everything he would throw tantrums that rocked the

> house may times a day and even if he woke in the middle of the night

> he would start screaming. Lead does effect behavior I am convinced. It

> is weird as all you hear about lead is IQ problems but my sons IQ is

> high. BEHAVIOR is our issue. We didnt start any intervention until he

> was 2.5 as we did not know about all this until then. I wish we had

> known when he was 15 months old. Good luck

> Patti

>

> - In , " nolalead " <nolalead@y...> wrote:

> > I have a 15 month old who had higher than I liked blood lead levels

> > (8.9), so I got his

> > hair tested at DDI for this and other metals. He is 'in the red'

> > (over 95th precentile) in

> > antimony, arsenic, lead and tin. He is high in other metals too. His

> > total toxic

> > representation is 100% (chart is below)

> >

> > My son has not been diagnosed with autism and seems healthy thus far.

> > He does hit

> > his head with his hands a little more than makes me comfortable and

> > still wakes up 3

> > or 4 times in the night (though he is cosleeping and still

> > breastfeeding) Other than that he is very social, happy, etc.

> Anyway, with =

> >

> > metals so high, do I chelate even without symptoms? And I wonder,

> > does this

> > definately mean he will have problems, or can some bodies handle this

> > stuff?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Toxic Elements DDI labs

> > result reference

> > Aluminum 18 < 8.0 yellow 80%

> > Antimony 0.25 < 0.066 red 96%

> > Arsenic 0.31 < 0.08 red 97%

> > Beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> > Bismuth 0.046 < 0.13 green

> > Cadmium 0.18 < 0.15 yellow 69%

> > Lead 6.5 < 1.0 red 97%

> > Mercury 0.03 < 0.4 no line

> > Platinum <0.003 < 0.005 no line

> > Thallium <0.001 < 0.010 no line

> > Thorium <0.004 < 0.005 green

> > Uranium 0.018 < 0.06 green

> > Nickel 0.24 < 0.40 green

> > Silver 0.52 < 0.20 yellow 75%

> > Tin 1.5 < 0.3 red 98%

> > Titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow

> >

> > Total Toxic Representation red 100% line continues off chart

> >

> > Elements

> > result reference

> > Calcium 253; 125 - 370 green high

> > Magnesium 15; 12 - 30 green low

> > Sodium 180; 12 - 90 yellow high

> > Potassium 470; 12 - 40 red high

> > Copper 12; 8 - 16 green high

> > Zinc 77; 110 - 190 yellow low

> > Manganese 0.18; 0.20 - 0.55 yellow low

> > Chromium 0.49; 0.26 - 0.50 green high

> > Vanadium 0.086; 0.030 - 0.10 green high

> > Molybdenum 0.095; 0.050 - 0.13 green high

> > Boron 9.7; 0.60 Ð 4.0 yellow high

> > Iodine 1.2; 0.25 - 1.3 green high

> > Lithium 0.008; 0.007 - 0.023 green low

> > Phosphorous 211; 160 - 250 green high

> > Selenium 0.74; 0.95 - 1.7 yellow low

> > Strontium 0.47; 0.16 Ð 1.0 green high

> > Sulfur 46600; 45500 - 53000 green low

> > Barium 0.29; 0.16 - .80 white

> > Cobalt 0.011; 0.013 - 0.035 yellow low

> > Iron 13; 8.0 - 19 green high

> > Germanium 0.053; 0.045 - 0.065 green low

> > Rubidium 0.43; .016 - 0.18 yellow high

> > Zirconium 0.35; 0.04 Ð 1.0 white

> >

> > Ratios

> > Elements Ratios Expected Range

> > Ca/Mg 16.9 4 - 30

> > Ca/P 1.2 0.8 - 8

> > Na/K .383 0.5 - 10

> > Zn/Cu 6.42 4 - 20

> > Zn/Cd 428 >800