Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Well, said, ! I'm with you. Skater Gwen C2K 9/16/02 Dr. Gross wrote: >20 BHR's is not a very large number! There are 12 doctors in the US >taking part in the study. Many of them are able to get insurance >coverage with no problems. There should be a list of them on >ActiveJoints.com. I know my doctor (Dr. Gross) in Columbia, SC does >bilateral hip resurfacings all the time. TimmyT can attest to that. >He was in the hospital with me when I had my RHR done. He had both >done. I'm sure DeSmet is very good, but if you are interested in >staying in the US, there are good doctors here who have done hundreds >of them (not just 20!). > > >Dr Gross 6/12/03 >RHR C2K > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Hi Rainer I don't know if this would work with Dr Kim, but I got in to see Dr Smit in White Rock, B.C., in June for a consult by paying $250.00 myself. His secretary said it somehow bypassed MSP (our OHIP), but wouldn't compromise MSP paying for the surgery. Otherwise I would have had to wait until November. As it was, he said my hip was too bad for him to do a resurf on, and tried to talk me into a THR. DeSmet had already seen my xrays and given me the okay, but I had been hoping I could get it done here and avoid the cost of going to Belgium. No such luck. The other thing is that I know people in B.C. who have had Dr Kim do the surgery and they just had to send their xrays to him, without having to go there twice - once for a consult and once for surgery. Has he already seen your xrays? Sharry Re: what should I do? The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does anyone have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. surgeons have done compared to DeSmet? For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for Canadian surgeons involved in the trials? I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 (been waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are taking a lot of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's Canadianese for favoring, eh) my hip so much. For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover out-of- province services if I have to wait so long here? Rainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hi Rainer So does this mean you get the surgery in Jan or Feb? I think it was from B.C. who had a bi-lat from Dr Kim and was very pleased. But she didn't have to show up for a consult and then wait for a surgery date - he saw her xrays, told her she was a candi;date, and she just flew out to Ottawa after that for the operation, having never neededd to see him in person. Sounds like he has a different method for those of you in Ontario? Sharry Re: what should I do? > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does anyone > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. surgeons have > done compared to DeSmet? > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for Canadian > surgeons involved in the trials? > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 (been > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are taking a lot > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's Canadianese for > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover out-of- > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > Rainer > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Have been reading since July, as of 10-13-03 an official HIPPY. Done by DR Grecula @ UTMB. Galveston. in the great state of TEXAS. C+ LHR Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 Have been reading since July, as of 10-13-03 an official HIPPY. Done by DR Grecula @ UTMB. Galveston. in the great state of TEXAS. C+ LHR Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Hi Rainer I agree with you about your concern for lack of experience with resurfs by an OS. Even if the nice OS in White Rock had accepted my case, I'm not sure if I'd have let him do it, as he had only done 3 at that time. I don't think I will ever forget Dr De Smet saying that his first 100 resurfs were 'a learning curve'....btw, Dr De Smet is very conscientious about aftercare for overseas patients, as that was a really big concern of mine too. If he thinks anything could go wrong, he prearranges things for his overseas patients, as much as is possible, like speaking to an OS here to arrange for local supervision. Maybe the OSS' in Britain do that too. Please just don't wait too long....I gather that I barely made it in time, what with a Canadian doc turning me down as my hip being too far gone. Sharry----- From: Rainer To: surfacehippy Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: what should I do? Hi Sharry, Actually come to think of it, when I first talked to Sylvia at Dr. Kim's office after Dr. Kim had okayed me for the surgery, I got the impression that my appt with Dr. Kim was for surgery. I thought it was unusual not to have a consultation first so I thought I must have imagined that scenario. But maybe.... Still I would not go to surgery without having a consultation with Dr. Kim first, even if it meant moving out the surgery even further. So my appt in Jan/Feb is for a consultation -- I'd like to 'interview' Dr. Kim to see if I'm comfortable with him, e.g. his experience, his thoughts on re-surfacing, etc. Naturally the fact that OHIP would cover the surgery is very attractive and also the fact that any post-op problems can be dealt with without going out of the country. Even though he may be a good OS, my biggest concern may be his lack of re-surfs done compared to others like DeSmet, Amstutz, McMinn. Rainer > > Hi Rainer > > I don't know if this would work with Dr Kim, but I got in to > see Dr Smit in White Rock, B.C., in June for a consult by paying > $250.00 myself. His secretary said it somehow bypassed MSP (our > OHIP), but wouldn't compromise MSP paying for the surgery. Otherwise > I would have had to wait until November. As it was, he said my hip > was too bad for him to do a resurf on, and tried to talk me into a > THR. DeSmet had already seen my xrays and given me the okay, but I > had been hoping I could get it done here and avoid the cost of going > to Belgium. No such luck. > > The other thing is that I know people in B.C. who have had Dr > Kim do the surgery and they just had to send their xrays to him, > without having to go there twice - once for a consult and once for > surgery. Has he already seen your xrays? > > Sharry > > Re: what should I do? > > > > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does > anyone > > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. surgeons > have > > done compared to DeSmet? > > > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for > Canadian > > surgeons involved in the trials? > > > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 (been > > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are taking a > lot > > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's Canadianese > for > > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover out-of- > > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > > > Rainer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Hi Rainer I agree with you about your concern for lack of experience with resurfs by an OS. Even if the nice OS in White Rock had accepted my case, I'm not sure if I'd have let him do it, as he had only done 3 at that time. I don't think I will ever forget Dr De Smet saying that his first 100 resurfs were 'a learning curve'....btw, Dr De Smet is very conscientious about aftercare for overseas patients, as that was a really big concern of mine too. If he thinks anything could go wrong, he prearranges things for his overseas patients, as much as is possible, like speaking to an OS here to arrange for local supervision. Maybe the OSS' in Britain do that too. Please just don't wait too long....I gather that I barely made it in time, what with a Canadian doc turning me down as my hip being too far gone. Sharry----- From: Rainer To: surfacehippy Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: what should I do? Hi Sharry, Actually come to think of it, when I first talked to Sylvia at Dr. Kim's office after Dr. Kim had okayed me for the surgery, I got the impression that my appt with Dr. Kim was for surgery. I thought it was unusual not to have a consultation first so I thought I must have imagined that scenario. But maybe.... Still I would not go to surgery without having a consultation with Dr. Kim first, even if it meant moving out the surgery even further. So my appt in Jan/Feb is for a consultation -- I'd like to 'interview' Dr. Kim to see if I'm comfortable with him, e.g. his experience, his thoughts on re-surfacing, etc. Naturally the fact that OHIP would cover the surgery is very attractive and also the fact that any post-op problems can be dealt with without going out of the country. Even though he may be a good OS, my biggest concern may be his lack of re-surfs done compared to others like DeSmet, Amstutz, McMinn. Rainer > > Hi Rainer > > I don't know if this would work with Dr Kim, but I got in to > see Dr Smit in White Rock, B.C., in June for a consult by paying > $250.00 myself. His secretary said it somehow bypassed MSP (our > OHIP), but wouldn't compromise MSP paying for the surgery. Otherwise > I would have had to wait until November. As it was, he said my hip > was too bad for him to do a resurf on, and tried to talk me into a > THR. DeSmet had already seen my xrays and given me the okay, but I > had been hoping I could get it done here and avoid the cost of going > to Belgium. No such luck. > > The other thing is that I know people in B.C. who have had Dr > Kim do the surgery and they just had to send their xrays to him, > without having to go there twice - once for a consult and once for > surgery. Has he already seen your xrays? > > Sharry > > Re: what should I do? > > > > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does > anyone > > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. surgeons > have > > done compared to DeSmet? > > > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for > Canadian > > surgeons involved in the trials? > > > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 (been > > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are taking a > lot > > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's Canadianese > for > > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover out-of- > > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > > > Rainer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Congratulations, Ken!! How are you doing? Sharry RBHR De Smet 27/08/2003 Re: Re: what should I do? Have been reading since July, as of 10-13-03 an official HIPPY. Done by DR Grecula @ UTMB. Galveston. in the great state of TEXAS. C+ LHR Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Congratulations, Ken!! How are you doing? Sharry RBHR De Smet 27/08/2003 Re: Re: what should I do? Have been reading since July, as of 10-13-03 an official HIPPY. Done by DR Grecula @ UTMB. Galveston. in the great state of TEXAS. C+ LHR Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Hi Rainer De Smet already gave me a date for surgery ahead of time (yes, really!) when I emailed him in early June, for 27 Aug 03, subject to seeing my xrays and approving me. So then I fedexed him my xrays, which were followed by the longest 4 days of my life, waiting for them to get to him, and then he emailed me back that they were fine. This guy doesn't fool around - he emails back himself, usually within 4-5 hours of my having emailed him. I know what you mean about not having been to the gym for so long - I was pretty jockish before the pain got just too bad, about 2-3 years ago (it's hard to rermember exactly when, as I gradually gave up one activity after another over time, as they became too painful- first aerobics and running, then cycling, then even swimming). I actually miss the gym, and hated being a couch potato, and am looking forward to adding back those activities, in reverse order, starting with swimming....which has always been my passion And I forgot another fave - hiking - we live on a small acreage in the country here in the Okanagan, and I hope that by next summer I'll be strong enoough to do some serious hiking. I know what you mean about working out hanging over your head, all the time. This time around I am not going to push it. Funny thing, my knees never gave me any grief until after surgery - they have kicked up quite a fuss this past two months - getting repositioned I think. So perhaps you'll have less trouble with that left one, post-op. Let me know how you're doing and what you decide. Sharry Re: what should I do? > > > > > > > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does > > anyone > > > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. > surgeons > > have > > > done compared to DeSmet? > > > > > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for > > Canadian > > > surgeons involved in the trials? > > > > > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > > > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 > (been > > > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are > taking a > > lot > > > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's > Canadianese > > for > > > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > > > > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover > out-of- > > > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > > > > > Rainer > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Hi Rainer De Smet already gave me a date for surgery ahead of time (yes, really!) when I emailed him in early June, for 27 Aug 03, subject to seeing my xrays and approving me. So then I fedexed him my xrays, which were followed by the longest 4 days of my life, waiting for them to get to him, and then he emailed me back that they were fine. This guy doesn't fool around - he emails back himself, usually within 4-5 hours of my having emailed him. I know what you mean about not having been to the gym for so long - I was pretty jockish before the pain got just too bad, about 2-3 years ago (it's hard to rermember exactly when, as I gradually gave up one activity after another over time, as they became too painful- first aerobics and running, then cycling, then even swimming). I actually miss the gym, and hated being a couch potato, and am looking forward to adding back those activities, in reverse order, starting with swimming....which has always been my passion And I forgot another fave - hiking - we live on a small acreage in the country here in the Okanagan, and I hope that by next summer I'll be strong enoough to do some serious hiking. I know what you mean about working out hanging over your head, all the time. This time around I am not going to push it. Funny thing, my knees never gave me any grief until after surgery - they have kicked up quite a fuss this past two months - getting repositioned I think. So perhaps you'll have less trouble with that left one, post-op. Let me know how you're doing and what you decide. Sharry Re: what should I do? > > > > > > > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does > > anyone > > > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. > surgeons > > have > > > done compared to DeSmet? > > > > > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for > > Canadian > > > surgeons involved in the trials? > > > > > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > > > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 > (been > > > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are > taking a > > lot > > > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's > Canadianese > > for > > > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > > > > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover > out-of- > > > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > > > > > Rainer > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Hi Rainer De Smet already gave me a date for surgery ahead of time (yes, really!) when I emailed him in early June, for 27 Aug 03, subject to seeing my xrays and approving me. So then I fedexed him my xrays, which were followed by the longest 4 days of my life, waiting for them to get to him, and then he emailed me back that they were fine. This guy doesn't fool around - he emails back himself, usually within 4-5 hours of my having emailed him. I know what you mean about not having been to the gym for so long - I was pretty jockish before the pain got just too bad, about 2-3 years ago (it's hard to rermember exactly when, as I gradually gave up one activity after another over time, as they became too painful- first aerobics and running, then cycling, then even swimming). I actually miss the gym, and hated being a couch potato, and am looking forward to adding back those activities, in reverse order, starting with swimming....which has always been my passion And I forgot another fave - hiking - we live on a small acreage in the country here in the Okanagan, and I hope that by next summer I'll be strong enoough to do some serious hiking. I know what you mean about working out hanging over your head, all the time. This time around I am not going to push it. Funny thing, my knees never gave me any grief until after surgery - they have kicked up quite a fuss this past two months - getting repositioned I think. So perhaps you'll have less trouble with that left one, post-op. Let me know how you're doing and what you decide. Sharry Re: what should I do? > > > > > > > > > The surgeon and his experience is very important to me. Does > > anyone > > > have a rundown of the number of resurfs that the U.S. > surgeons > > have > > > done compared to DeSmet? > > > > > > For that matter, since I live in Ontario, any numbers for > > Canadian > > > surgeons involved in the trials? > > > > > > I'm still waiting for my appt with Dr. Kim in Ottawa but it's > > > becoming a really long stretch to January or February 2004 > (been > > > waiting since June for a date) and my knee and back are > taking a > > lot > > > of punishment lately because I'm favouring (that's > Canadianese > > for > > > favoring, eh) my hip so much. > > > > > > For other Ontarians: is there no way that OHIP will cover > out-of- > > > province services if I have to wait so long here? > > > > > > Rainer > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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