Re: Bradley787@a ......im sorry to offend.

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, right Candace... And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11 promotions of

the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to say the

least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's intentions are

wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

Surely a balance can be created? As new people join the forum and ask

for information, then Peggathy has every right to put forward her book,

just as many of us put forward our personal experiences. And if that

succeeds in promoting the book to a wider readership, good for Peggathy.

Well, that's just my humble opinion.

(McMinn BHR's. Lft '99, Rt '00)

> SurfaceHipppy is an appropriate forum

> to tell people about anything related to surface hip

> replacement, especially when it provides such detailed

> information about options. Candace C+ Vail 12/02

[Guest guest]

And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

> inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11

promotions of

> the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to say

the

> least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's intentions

are

> wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

I agree with this view whole heartedly. I was happy to learn about

the book initially, but I got a little tired of seeing posts

promoting it (ALL IN CAPS!!) Now that we are ALL aware of the

existence of the book, we can pass the word along to new folks who

post on the message board.

Gross 6/12/03

RHR C2K

[Guest guest]

Well said, . After I'd seen a couple of the promos for the book, I first

reacted with 'oh this is getting tiresome, and then I got sort of suspicious.

Given my particular general take on things, I decided that, on principle I would

never buy the book.

In other words, too much promotion turns me right off.

Sharry

Re: Bradley787@a ......im sorry to offend.

And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

> inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11

promotions of

> the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to say

the

> least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's intentions

are

> wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

I agree with this view whole heartedly. I was happy to learn about

the book initially, but I got a little tired of seeing posts

promoting it (ALL IN CAPS!!) Now that we are ALL aware of the

existence of the book, we can pass the word along to new folks who

post on the message board.

Gross 6/12/03

RHR C2K

[Guest guest]

dear Sharry,

anything that promotes De Smet and his product

can never have too much promotion in my opinion.

take a lap and then give me 20, what are you

thinking girl????

> Well said, . After I'd seen a couple of the promos for the

book, I first reacted with 'oh this is getting tiresome, and then I

got sort of suspicious. Given my particular general take on things,

I decided that, on principle I would never buy the book.

> In other words, too much promotion turns me right off.

> Sharry

> Re: Bradley787@a ......im sorry to offend.

>

>

> And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

> > inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11

> promotions of

> > the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to

say

> the

> > least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's

intentions

> are

> > wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

>

>

> I agree with this view whole heartedly. I was happy to learn

about

> the book initially, but I got a little tired of seeing posts

> promoting it (ALL IN CAPS!!) Now that we are ALL aware of the

> existence of the book, we can pass the word along to new folks

who

> post on the message board.

>

>

> Gross 6/12/03

> RHR C2K

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear Sharry,

anything that promotes De Smet and his product

can never have too much promotion in my opinion.

take a lap and then give me 20, what are you

thinking girl????

> Well said, . After I'd seen a couple of the promos for the

book, I first reacted with 'oh this is getting tiresome, and then I

got sort of suspicious. Given my particular general take on things,

I decided that, on principle I would never buy the book.

> In other words, too much promotion turns me right off.

> Sharry

> Re: Bradley787@a ......im sorry to offend.

>

>

> And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

> > inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11

> promotions of

> > the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to

say

> the

> > least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's

intentions

> are

> > wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

>

>

> I agree with this view whole heartedly. I was happy to learn

about

> the book initially, but I got a little tired of seeing posts

> promoting it (ALL IN CAPS!!) Now that we are ALL aware of the

> existence of the book, we can pass the word along to new folks

who

> post on the message board.

>

>

> Gross 6/12/03

> RHR C2K

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have no problem with the book being put forward

[Guest guest]

I have no problem with the book being put forward

[Guest guest]

I'll promote Dr De Smet anytime, anywhere, but this is a book promotion, let's

clarify that.

Sharry

Re: Bradley787@a ......im sorry to offend.

>

>

> And it is wonderful that Peggathy is

> > inspired to to write about her experiences. However, 11

> promotions of

> > the book in 3 weeks on this site, is a little exasparating, to

say

> the

> > least, especially to the converted. Even if Peggathy's

intentions

> are

> > wholly honorable, it does come across as commercialism.

>

>

> I agree with this view whole heartedly. I was happy to learn

about

> the book initially, but I got a little tired of seeing posts

> promoting it (ALL IN CAPS!!) Now that we are ALL aware of the

> existence of the book, we can pass the word along to new folks

who

> post on the message board.

>

>

> Gross 6/12/03

> RHR C2K

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This thread is getting very tiresome.

Peggy has created a valuable source of information about resurfacing which

could provide crucial information to patients trying to learn from other's

experiences and prepare for their own major surgery and life changing event.

I understand how exuberance and enthusiasm contained within messages posted

by the authors and her readers can be interpreted as promotional. There is a

thin line between trying to get the word out about a valuable contribution

to the group suffering from hip pain and greedy self promotion.

I think that we should give Peggy, as one of our own, the benefit of a doubt

here. She has poured her time and energy into this work in a selfless effort

to aid others. Publishing a book in the " Vanity Press " is an expensive and

risky thing to do.

It would be a shame to stifle Peggy's or other's efforts to inform and guide

others. There have certainly been plenty of other " authors " on this forum

who have shared their histories and experiences online and many, including

myself have benefited from their efforts.

That someone has collected stories of pain, endurance, searching, and final

success and put these in a book that others can refer to is commendable and

admirable. For people (who have not bothered to examine it) to criticize and

condemn the book and the author's efforts reflects a jaded and cynical

mindset that could even damage the chances that others in need of

information and encouragement will find relief from their pain.

If the messages raving about Peggy's book bore you, there's always the

delete button. It's a big world out there and there's lots of people who are

going to say things you don't agree with or would rather not hear online.

But unless it is patently untrue, or somehow damaging to others, we are

better off tolerating a few tiresome messages then censuring, criticizing

and embarrassing people for no reason.

I hope we can return to the purpose of this discussion group, which is to

provide information and encouragement, not criticism and distrust.

Trautman

C2K, Kennedy, Sep 03

[Guest guest]

Well-said, .

Cormet 2000 30/sept/03

-In surfacehippy , " Trautman "

wrote:

> This thread is getting very tiresome.

>

> Peggy has created a valuable source of information about

resurfacing which

> could provide crucial information to patients trying to learn from

other's

> experiences and prepare for their own major surgery and life

changing event.

>

> I understand how exuberance and enthusiasm contained within

messages posted

> by the authors and her readers can be interpreted as promotional.

There is a

> thin line between trying to get the word out about a valuable

contribution

> to the group suffering from hip pain and greedy self promotion.

>

> I think that we should give Peggy, as one of our own, the benefit

of a doubt

> here. She has poured her time and energy into this work in a

selfless effort

> to aid others. Publishing a book in the " Vanity Press " is an

expensive and

> risky thing to do.

>

> It would be a shame to stifle Peggy's or other's efforts to inform

and guide

> others. There have certainly been plenty of other " authors " on

this forum

> who have shared their histories and experiences online and many,

including

> myself have benefited from their efforts.

>

> That someone has collected stories of pain, endurance, searching,

and final

> success and put these in a book that others can refer to is

commendable and

> admirable. For people (who have not bothered to examine it) to

criticize and

> condemn the book and the author's efforts reflects a jaded and

cynical

> mindset that could even damage the chances that others in need of

> information and encouragement will find relief from their pain.

>

> If the messages raving about Peggy's book bore you, there's always

the

> delete button. It's a big world out there and there's lots of

people who are

> going to say things you don't agree with or would rather not hear

online.

> But unless it is patently untrue, or somehow damaging to others,

we are

> better off tolerating a few tiresome messages then censuring,

criticizing

> and embarrassing people for no reason.

>

> I hope we can return to the purpose of this discussion group,

which is to

> provide information and encouragement, not criticism and distrust.

>

> Trautman

> C2K, Kennedy, Sep 03

[Guest guest]

Well-said, .

Cormet 2000 30/sept/03

-In surfacehippy , " Trautman "

wrote:

> This thread is getting very tiresome.

>

> Peggy has created a valuable source of information about

resurfacing which

> could provide crucial information to patients trying to learn from

other's

> experiences and prepare for their own major surgery and life

changing event.

>

> I understand how exuberance and enthusiasm contained within

messages posted

> by the authors and her readers can be interpreted as promotional.

There is a

> thin line between trying to get the word out about a valuable

contribution

> to the group suffering from hip pain and greedy self promotion.

>

> I think that we should give Peggy, as one of our own, the benefit

of a doubt

> here. She has poured her time and energy into this work in a

selfless effort

> to aid others. Publishing a book in the " Vanity Press " is an

expensive and

> risky thing to do.

>

> It would be a shame to stifle Peggy's or other's efforts to inform

and guide

> others. There have certainly been plenty of other " authors " on

this forum

> who have shared their histories and experiences online and many,

including

> myself have benefited from their efforts.

>

> That someone has collected stories of pain, endurance, searching,

and final

> success and put these in a book that others can refer to is

commendable and

> admirable. For people (who have not bothered to examine it) to

criticize and

> condemn the book and the author's efforts reflects a jaded and

cynical

> mindset that could even damage the chances that others in need of

> information and encouragement will find relief from their pain.

>

> If the messages raving about Peggy's book bore you, there's always

the

> delete button. It's a big world out there and there's lots of

people who are

> going to say things you don't agree with or would rather not hear

online.

> But unless it is patently untrue, or somehow damaging to others,

we are

> better off tolerating a few tiresome messages then censuring,

criticizing

> and embarrassing people for no reason.

>

> I hope we can return to the purpose of this discussion group,

which is to

> provide information and encouragement, not criticism and distrust.

>

> Trautman

> C2K, Kennedy, Sep 03