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In a message dated 11/30/2004 6:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to

> get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will

> be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

>

this made me flat out cuss and say bad words. screw this person...

yea - you get a new doc, sweetie...cause this person is a bad, bad person.

cindi

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In a message dated 11/30/2004 6:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to

> get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will

> be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

>

this made me flat out cuss and say bad words. screw this person...

yea - you get a new doc, sweetie...cause this person is a bad, bad person.

cindi

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In a message dated 11/30/2004 6:05:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to

> get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will

> be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

>

this made me flat out cuss and say bad words. screw this person...

yea - you get a new doc, sweetie...cause this person is a bad, bad person.

cindi

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at the

Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's nurse

called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't believe my

ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3, period.

She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to get our

housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will be

looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not paying

Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just have to

take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in cardiac

arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to monitor

me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

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In a message dated 11/30/2004 8:54:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I seen my Dr. the other day and told him that I know many that are doing so

> much better on Armour, but my test showed that I am in a good rage, even

> though I am soooooooo fatigued, very poor concentration, memory loss, ache,

cold

> nose, fingers tremble, etc., so he will not switch me.

Good rage? lol. so okay...obviously he thinks because your TSH is in range,

you must be feeling just fine So it's time to find a new doctor who listens

to his patient instead of worshipping lab numbers. Your lab number may be

fine, but obviously you're not. You can either continue to feel bad or find a

doctor who will give you enough Armour to get rid of your hypo symptoms or you

can self-medicate. The choice is yours. Don't let your health be the choice

of your current doctor. Being undermedicated can cause you LONG TERM health

problems.

Cindi

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at the

Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's nurse

called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't believe my

ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3, period.

She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to get our

housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will be

looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not paying

Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just have to

take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in cardiac

arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to monitor

me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

Re: Cindi

In a message dated 11/30/2004 8:54:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I seen my Dr. the other day and told him that I know many that are doing so

> much better on Armour, but my test showed that I am in a good rage, even

> though I am soooooooo fatigued, very poor concentration, memory loss, ache,

cold

> nose, fingers tremble, etc., so he will not switch me.

Good rage? lol. so okay...obviously he thinks because your TSH is in range,

you must be feeling just fine So it's time to find a new doctor who listens

to his patient instead of worshipping lab numbers. Your lab number may be

fine, but obviously you're not. You can either continue to feel bad or find a

doctor who will give you enough Armour to get rid of your hypo symptoms or you

can self-medicate. The choice is yours. Don't let your health be the choice

of your current doctor. Being undermedicated can cause you LONG TERM health

problems.

Cindi

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at the

Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's nurse

called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't believe my

ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3, period.

She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed to get our

housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I will be

looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not paying

Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just have to

take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in cardiac

arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to monitor

me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

Re: Cindi

In a message dated 11/30/2004 8:54:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Wvyorkies@... writes:

> I seen my Dr. the other day and told him that I know many that are doing so

> much better on Armour, but my test showed that I am in a good rage, even

> though I am soooooooo fatigued, very poor concentration, memory loss, ache,

cold

> nose, fingers tremble, etc., so he will not switch me.

Good rage? lol. so okay...obviously he thinks because your TSH is in range,

you must be feeling just fine So it's time to find a new doctor who listens

to his patient instead of worshipping lab numbers. Your lab number may be

fine, but obviously you're not. You can either continue to feel bad or find a

doctor who will give you enough Armour to get rid of your hypo symptoms or you

can self-medicate. The choice is yours. Don't let your health be the choice

of your current doctor. Being undermedicated can cause you LONG TERM health

problems.

Cindi

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes I

wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes I

wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes I

wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Wow, Kathy. I'm sorry they put you through that. Sounds like

someone has a God complex. What a jerk, and the nurse had no right

to do that to you. >:(

> I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some

Armour?? Sounds like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

>

> Kathy

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Wow, Kathy. I'm sorry they put you through that. Sounds like

someone has a God complex. What a jerk, and the nurse had no right

to do that to you. >:(

> I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some

Armour?? Sounds like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

>

> Kathy

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Wow, Kathy. I'm sorry they put you through that. Sounds like

someone has a God complex. What a jerk, and the nurse had no right

to do that to you. >:(

> I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some

Armour?? Sounds like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

>

> Kathy

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Amen ! One of my endo's told me that people wanted " cocaine " legalized so

they could feel good too, as if there was a comparison of it and Armour and I

just about died laughing! What putz's these Dr's turn out to be!

SandyE~Houston

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes

I wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Amen ! One of my endo's told me that people wanted " cocaine " legalized so

they could feel good too, as if there was a comparison of it and Armour and I

just about died laughing! What putz's these Dr's turn out to be!

SandyE~Houston

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes

I wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Amen ! One of my endo's told me that people wanted " cocaine " legalized so

they could feel good too, as if there was a comparison of it and Armour and I

just about died laughing! What putz's these Dr's turn out to be!

SandyE~Houston

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That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha... Sometimes

I wish there were some magic pill you could slip these self-righteous buttheads

that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could talk about speed and T3 being

the same thing.

*Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/

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Kathy, these are the things that bring us to self medicate. Sorry your dr is

being such a nu-nu (don't ask me what that means cuz I can't remember, but it's

similar to a butthead) just nicer. lol. I had an endo tell me that there was

'no need for anything like T3' but we all know that is horse pucky. I would

love to see every Endo who is so indignant and thinks we are just looking for a

drug to take would come down with hypothyroidism.

And for those that aren't hypo, I'd love for them to get hyperthyroidism that

resulted in hypoT! I used to never wish this disease on anybody, but my views

are changing the older I get. Dr's just don't understand what it's like to have

to literally 'not be able to do simple things' and this disease does that and so

much more!

SandyE~Houston

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at

the Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's

nurse called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't

believe my ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3,

period. She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed

to get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I

will be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not

paying Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just

have to take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in

cardiac arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to

monitor me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

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Kathy, these are the things that bring us to self medicate. Sorry your dr is

being such a nu-nu (don't ask me what that means cuz I can't remember, but it's

similar to a butthead) just nicer. lol. I had an endo tell me that there was

'no need for anything like T3' but we all know that is horse pucky. I would

love to see every Endo who is so indignant and thinks we are just looking for a

drug to take would come down with hypothyroidism.

And for those that aren't hypo, I'd love for them to get hyperthyroidism that

resulted in hypoT! I used to never wish this disease on anybody, but my views

are changing the older I get. Dr's just don't understand what it's like to have

to literally 'not be able to do simple things' and this disease does that and so

much more!

SandyE~Houston

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at

the Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's

nurse called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't

believe my ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3,

period. She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed

to get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I

will be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not

paying Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just

have to take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in

cardiac arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to

monitor me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

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Kathy, these are the things that bring us to self medicate. Sorry your dr is

being such a nu-nu (don't ask me what that means cuz I can't remember, but it's

similar to a butthead) just nicer. lol. I had an endo tell me that there was

'no need for anything like T3' but we all know that is horse pucky. I would

love to see every Endo who is so indignant and thinks we are just looking for a

drug to take would come down with hypothyroidism.

And for those that aren't hypo, I'd love for them to get hyperthyroidism that

resulted in hypoT! I used to never wish this disease on anybody, but my views

are changing the older I get. Dr's just don't understand what it's like to have

to literally 'not be able to do simple things' and this disease does that and so

much more!

SandyE~Houston

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I just about fell over today. The Endo called me to set up a sleep test at

the Hospital! I don't have insurance, nor do I need this test. Then my Dr's

nurse called me to just be nasty to me because I refused to go. I couldn't

believe my ears!! She told me that Dr. Heavener is NOT going to give me any T3,

period. She then made a remark to me that we would all like to pop some speed

to get our housework done! SPEED??? I just want to be normal! I guess I

will be looking for a new Dr., and probably self medicating myself.

I got so upset with the nurse on the phone that I told her that I am not

paying Thousands of dollars for a sleep test that I don't need, so I will just

have to take things into my own hands. She told me that I might end up in

cardiac arrest!! I would have went to my Dr. everyday if he wanted me to, to

monitor me. But, NO, they think they are so right and we are so wrong!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo upset. Now, where can I buy some Armour?? Sounds

like everyone is having trouble getting it. :-((

Kathy

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That's the way...send the problem back to those that gave it to us...right? But

hey wait a minute....if doctors with thyroid problems can't get Armour...what's

that mean for the rest of us? We need it too! Just we careful what you wish

for...you just might get it!

C

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OH, I'm gonna be ugly. I want them all to become seriously hyperT/Graves. I

want them to then have RAI. Every last one of them. I mean, if we're gonna do

this thing, let's do it right? right? lol. I get a real bee in my bonnet when

dr's tell people that RAI is going to 'cure' them, and unsuspecting people fall

for it, cuz the dr's know best. Then in a few years when they are feeling like

death, and can't get any help, cuz 'Armour' is so unstable. rofl. I want them

to suffer. Then not be able to get Armour for relief. (nope, I'm not

vindictive!) lol.

SandyE~Houston

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That's the way...send the problem back to those that gave it to us...right? But

hey wait a minute....if doctors with thyroid problems can't get Armour...what's

that mean for the rest of us? We need it too! Just we careful what you wish

for...you just might get it!

C

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OH, I'm gonna be ugly. I want them all to become seriously hyperT/Graves. I

want them to then have RAI. Every last one of them. I mean, if we're gonna do

this thing, let's do it right? right? lol. I get a real bee in my bonnet when

dr's tell people that RAI is going to 'cure' them, and unsuspecting people fall

for it, cuz the dr's know best. Then in a few years when they are feeling like

death, and can't get any help, cuz 'Armour' is so unstable. rofl. I want them

to suffer. Then not be able to get Armour for relief. (nope, I'm not

vindictive!) lol.

SandyE~Houston

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That's the way...send the problem back to those that gave it to us...right? But

hey wait a minute....if doctors with thyroid problems can't get Armour...what's

that mean for the rest of us? We need it too! Just we careful what you wish

for...you just might get it!

C

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OH, I'm gonna be ugly. I want them all to become seriously hyperT/Graves. I

want them to then have RAI. Every last one of them. I mean, if we're gonna do

this thing, let's do it right? right? lol. I get a real bee in my bonnet when

dr's tell people that RAI is going to 'cure' them, and unsuspecting people fall

for it, cuz the dr's know best. Then in a few years when they are feeling like

death, and can't get any help, cuz 'Armour' is so unstable. rofl. I want them

to suffer. Then not be able to get Armour for relief. (nope, I'm not

vindictive!) lol.

SandyE~Houston

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OH, I'm gonna be ugly. I want them all to become seriously hyperT/Graves. I

want them to then have RAI. Every last one of them. I mean, if we're gonna do

this thing, let's do it right? right? lol. I get a real bee in my bonnet when

dr's tell people that RAI is going to 'cure' them, and unsuspecting people fall

for it, cuz the dr's know best. Then in a few years when they are feeling like

death, and can't get any help, cuz 'Armour' is so unstable. rofl. I want them

to suffer. Then not be able to get Armour for relief. (nope, I'm not

vindictive!) lol.

SandyE~Houston

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If this happened we'd see the biggest revolution in medicine ever. I'd LOVE

to see ALL or most doctors go hypoT & have to figure out what's wrong & how to

fix it & discover T3 or natural thyroid instead of synthetics is the answer.

They or a close family beloved family member would have to have it in order to

experience the problem & deal with it themselves. It's the only way, IMO.

Caroline

From: sandy

>>> And for those that aren't hypo, I'd love for them to get hyperthyroidism

that resulted in hypoT! I used to never wish this disease on anybody, but my

views are changing the older I get. Dr's just don't understand what it's like

to have to literally 'not be able to do simple things' and this disease does

that and so much more! <<<

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What is the matter with doctors who think that speed or cocaine or other such

drugs are the same as natural hormones???? I just don't get it. They aren't

doctors at all if you ask me. They're whacko nut cases, IMO. Which reminds me of

a space-case psychiatrist I once had....but that's another story.

Caroline

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similar thing happened to me a few years ago and is documented in this group's

files. In my case it was the doctor who told me that I would also feel better

on speed (after I had told him that I felt better on thyroid meds)

Lynda (in the UK)

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Ya know, I've never published anything at all, but I seriously feel like

going to my local newspaper and seeing if they would accept an article about

the cavalier attitudes of modern day doctors and how stupid they are, but

how stupid they actually think their patients are to swallow this type of

hogwash. I say newspaper because that is such an immediate one, without

having to publish a book. Let them sue the heck out of me. What would they

get in a court of law? An apology or retraction? No way! Money?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Can't get blood out of a turnip, which of

course is an antithyroid, pun intended. The name of the article would be

something like " Stupid things doctors say to their patients " . One reason is

that I KNOW that our local doctors read the papers, and I would be grinning

all the way to work, IF I even had a job when I got there, hehe.

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>

> That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha...

Sometimes I wish there were some magic pill you could slip these

self-righteous buttheads that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could

talk about speed and T3 being the same thing.

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Hi everyone,

I had to drag myself to work today. I clean houses with

my sister, but I have recently given up many of them due to lack of energy. I

am just amazed at the responses from my email, many of you have had similar

things said to you. This is the first time that this has happened to me. What

in the world gives them the right to talk to us that way?

, I wish you would do an article on " Stupid things that Dr's say . . . . " .

I'm sure everyone on this list can give you more then enough material for it!!

They must be worried about JOB SECURITY!!! LOL Pretty soon, no one is going to

trust any Doctors! I know I will do my homework and FIRST treat myself whenever

possible.

My son has a friend who's wife is a nurse, and she was in shock when I told

her what the nurse said to me. I went to her house last night and she was

looking up a lot of info for me. I think she knows more then my Dr. ever did!

Thanks for all the support!!

Kathy

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>

>

> That nurse needs to be turned in to the medical board! SPEED? Ha...

Sometimes I wish there were some magic pill you could slip these

self-righteous buttheads that would make THEM suddenly hypo! Then we could

talk about speed and T3 being the same thing.

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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