Re: starving the bugs question

[Guest guest]

I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

well i hate to say it ,but you'll hear it all the time here - everyone is

different

sounds like you're progressing nicely and MUCH quicker than me though- lol -

we're about the same (no raw though) and i'm 18 months in - I too wonder when i

can fully use the cookbooks and got excited recently to add some stuff and try

some recipes and now i'm in a set back and back to square 1 - so yes it's

trial/error and slow until you have a bunch of foods and can use those books -

hang in

eileen

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear you are in a setback, and thanks for your reply. I have been

reading your posts. I really hope you start to feel better soon and can progress

to more foods.

PJ

>

> I look at

> the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

>

> well i hate to say it ,but you'll hear it all the time here - everyone is

different

> sounds like you're progressing nicely and MUCH quicker than me though- lol -

we're about the same (no raw though) and i'm 18 months in - I too wonder when i

can fully use the cookbooks and got excited recently to add some stuff and try

some recipes and now i'm in a set back and back to square 1 - so yes it's

trial/error and slow until you have a bunch of foods and can use those books -

hang in

> eileen

>

[Guest guest]

Hello again,It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's

problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person.Hope this helps.Take care,Kim H.husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AMSubject: starving the bugs question

Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4 of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut butters are OK, nut flours are still "iffy". I think I am on track, but wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error? When do you ever feel "safe", like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

PJ

[Guest guest]

Hello again,It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's

problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person.Hope this helps.Take care,Kim H.husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AMSubject: starving the bugs question

Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4 of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut butters are OK, nut flours are still "iffy". I think I am on track, but wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error? When do you ever feel "safe", like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

PJ

[Guest guest]

Hello again,It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's

problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person.Hope this helps.Take care,Kim H.husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AMSubject: starving the bugs question

Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4 of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut butters are OK, nut flours are still "iffy". I think I am on track, but wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error? When do you ever feel "safe", like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

PJ

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kim for your replies. I hope is doing well. He certainly is blessed

to have such a caring wife. It was reading the inspiring stories on the SCD

cookbooks that convinced me to try this diet, and I am pleased so far. It does

help me to read about others' progress.

I think moderation is the key for everyone. It's just trying in the beginning

with limited foods. However, before starting SCD I was mostly living on Boost

and Pedialyte, so being able to eat as much as I can now is great...I just have

to keep that in perspective.

I just hope those " bad " bugs are very starved at this point

PJ

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: smdsmom2008

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AM

> Subject: starving the bugs question

>

>

> Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

>

> PJ

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kim for your replies. I hope is doing well. He certainly is blessed

to have such a caring wife. It was reading the inspiring stories on the SCD

cookbooks that convinced me to try this diet, and I am pleased so far. It does

help me to read about others' progress.

I think moderation is the key for everyone. It's just trying in the beginning

with limited foods. However, before starting SCD I was mostly living on Boost

and Pedialyte, so being able to eat as much as I can now is great...I just have

to keep that in perspective.

I just hope those " bad " bugs are very starved at this point

PJ

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: smdsmom2008

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AM

> Subject: starving the bugs question

>

>

> Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

>

> PJ

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kim for your replies. I hope is doing well. He certainly is blessed

to have such a caring wife. It was reading the inspiring stories on the SCD

cookbooks that convinced me to try this diet, and I am pleased so far. It does

help me to read about others' progress.

I think moderation is the key for everyone. It's just trying in the beginning

with limited foods. However, before starting SCD I was mostly living on Boost

and Pedialyte, so being able to eat as much as I can now is great...I just have

to keep that in perspective.

I just hope those " bad " bugs are very starved at this point

PJ

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: smdsmom2008

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AM

> Subject: starving the bugs question

>

>

> Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

>

> PJ

>

[Guest guest]

Took me 3 years before I felt "safe" about trying more advanced SCD foods, but I still react to many of the advanced foods even at the end of year 5.

Still can't eat many of the wonderful recipes in the SCD cookbooks without substitutions. I have functional digestive disorders, so can't get back to "normal" -- which is OK, I'm happy with symptom management. But I get a lot of pleasure out of looking through the SCD cookbooks, and trying a recipe now and then, even if I have to make changes to the recipes...

It has always been trial and error for me. But the longer I've been on SCD, the less severe the reaction, the less downtime a "new" food causes.

So, you'll get there.

Kim M.

SCD 5+ years

[Guest guest]

I think I own all the SCD cookbooks, and frankly, they kind of depress me ;-).

Since I have a stricture, I'll probably never get to eat advanced foods. I've

had a few things from stage 3, but I'm afraid that's as far as I'll get.

This past week, I've had two episodes of stomach pain/bloating (strange gurgling

sounds that sounded like they were coming from a hollow drum). The first time, I

thought I may have eaten too much fat that day (I had increased coconut oil).

The second time, there seemed no rhyme or reason to it (the bloating started

after a cup of tea, which I have had since day 1 of the diet). So unfortunately,

I'm still not in place where I feel safe so long as I stick to the diet. I sure

hope I get there though!

I'm kind of worried, in a couple of weeks I'm supposed to go with my mom to

visit family. It's a 2 day drive there, stay a couple days, and 2 day drive

back. Hopefully, I won't get any surprise gut problems during that time.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

>

> PJ

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for everyone's replies. My hubby just asked me if I was " conditioning " my

gut so that I could not eat " normal " foods again. ( He has not studied SCD- so

he only sees me eating my home made foods) and I told him quite honestly that

this diet was my only hope for eating a balanced diet ever again- even if I

never get to eat " illegals " which I really don't miss. So I do look at the

variety in the SCD cookbooks as if it was the " promised land " although through

this board I see that there are people with all different circumstances.

Regardless, it helps to see that people feel they are much better for being on

SCD than off it.

Holly, you have been on this diet for less than a year, so I hope that you will

find improvement and relief over time too.

PJ

> >

> > Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

> >

> > PJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for everyone's replies. My hubby just asked me if I was

> " conditioning " my gut so that I could not eat " normal " foods again.

Yeah - my sister at one point made a pretty similar point. Because

frex, if you remove all lactose, of course, you are making yourself

more sensitive to the ingestion of lactose, etc.

You just have to explain that in order to get your gut to heal - you

have to

treat it extra sensitively for a few years - and then, when it heals

and gets

stronger and your immune system is back to functioning again, it will be

able to deal with these things again. In theory. Hopefully.

> ( He has not studied SCD- so he only sees me eating my home made

> foods) and I told him quite honestly that this diet was my only hope

> for eating a balanced diet ever again- even if I never get to eat

> " illegals " which I really don't miss.

Really? I miss pizza every time I look at one - or smell the aroma

wafting

down the street. I don't crave it though, just miss it when I'm in

sensory

range.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks Mara,

I was never a big bread/potatoes/rice eater really. I do make a great home made

challah which I hope one day (in the future) to eat a little of...someday. As

for lactose- I was a big yogurt eater, so of course I have SCD yogurt for that.

I don't miss pizza- but Starbucks coffee with cream... yes!!and sushi-, but it's

better to feel well

At this point, I am still so newly diagnosed (mild UC) and just starting SCD. It

is all so new to me- the emotional shock, not knowing what to do or expect. SCD

not only gave me a plan- but a support forum as well, so I am grateful.

PJ

>

> > Thanks for everyone's replies. My hubby just asked me if I was

> > " conditioning " my gut so that I could not eat " normal " foods again.

>

> Yeah - my sister at one point made a pretty similar point. Because

> frex, if you remove all lactose, of course, you are making yourself

> more sensitive to the ingestion of lactose, etc.

>

> You just have to explain that in order to get your gut to heal - you

> have to

> treat it extra sensitively for a few years - and then, when it heals

> and gets

> stronger and your immune system is back to functioning again, it will be

> able to deal with these things again. In theory. Hopefully.

>

> > ( He has not studied SCD- so he only sees me eating my home made

> > foods) and I told him quite honestly that this diet was my only hope

> > for eating a balanced diet ever again- even if I never get to eat

> > " illegals " which I really don't miss.

>

> Really? I miss pizza every time I look at one - or smell the aroma

> wafting

> down the street. I don't crave it though, just miss it when I'm in

> sensory

> range.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

is doing well. And when we first started the diet, he was really, really sick. He spent a year or so on my parent's couch. A couple of years after he was diagnosed, he was so sick that he couldn't work anymore....he couldn't do anything. He also had a fistula from his intestine to his bladder. He was on several medications and nothing seemed to help. That's about the time I found the diet. It was little rocky at first. He would get gassy a lot. The fistula would start to heal (no more intestinal contents in his urine) and then he'd get gassy and the pressure would open it back up. We dealt with that for a while but about 6 or 8 months in, the fistula closed up for good. He got better, got his strength back and went back to work and we were able to move out of my parent's house. Yes,

moderation is key for everyone, digestive issues or not. Anyone can sit and eat too much of something and make themselves sick. I remember my mom telling me about when she was a little kid, she sat and ate a whole box of powdered donuts and made herself sick. It was years before she could even look at a powdered donut without getting nauseous. just has problems limiting himself so I have to "help" him. He's a big eater and will eat a quarter of a pie in one sitting....that would make my stomach hurt too!You'll get there, it just takes some time. That's one of the hardest things about this diet...the waiting...Kim H.husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:13:12 PMSubject: Re: starving the bugs question Thanks Kim for your replies. I hope is doing well. He certainly is blessed to have such a caring wife. It was reading the inspiring stories on the SCD cookbooks that convinced me to try this diet, and I am pleased so far. It does help me to read about others'

progress. I think moderation is the key for everyone. It's just trying in the beginning with limited foods. However, before starting SCD I was mostly living on Boost and Pedialyte, so being able to eat as much as I can now is great...I just have to keep that in perspective. I just hope those "bad" bugs are very starved at this point PJ > > Hello again, > > It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. > For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all

day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. > He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. > So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. > And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person. > > Hope this helps. > Take care, > Kim H. > husband,

, CD 1999, SCD 2002 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: smdsmom2008 <smdsmom2008@ ...> > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AM > Subject: starving the bugs question > > > Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4 of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut butters are OK, nut flours are still "iffy". I think I am on track, but wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing

slowly, trial and error? When do you ever feel "safe", like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff? > > PJ >

[Guest guest]

just from my own experience I found the reason I didn't do well with coconut oil

was because I have TONS of yeast - so maybe it wasn't your tea per se but that

you're just still off from it???? hopefully not your case but thought I'd share

eileen 18 months scd

> >

> > Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

> >

> > PJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We wash all our produce with a solution made of grapefruit seed extract and

water. GSE is supposed to kill about anything, so it should make eating raw a

bit safer. I'd love to grow my own garden though!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

[Guest guest]

We wash all our produce with a solution made of grapefruit seed extract and

water. GSE is supposed to kill about anything, so it should make eating raw a

bit safer. I'd love to grow my own garden though!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

[Guest guest]

We wash all our produce with a solution made of grapefruit seed extract and

water. GSE is supposed to kill about anything, so it should make eating raw a

bit safer. I'd love to grow my own garden though!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hello again,

>

> It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also

tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried

salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he

has to limit how much he has.

> And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Take care,

> Kim H.

> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

[Guest guest]

Pizza is one of my all time faves. Last month at our staff meeting they ordered

pizza. I walked into the lunchroom and had to excuse myself immediately to the

restroom where I cried for at least 10 minutes. Like you, I don't miss it unless

I smell it. And SCD pizza just doesn't cut it!!!

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 18 months

> Really? I miss pizza every time I look at one - or smell the aroma wafting

down the street. I don't crave it though, just miss it when I'm in sensory

range.

> Mara

[Guest guest]

Misty- thanks for your reply and the shopping list. It's great you can eat all

this on the list. I was looking wistfully at Lara Bars the other day.

Yes- the tears- I get them too. Usually a mixture of gratitude that there is a

diet I can eat, hope, and sadness that I have to be on it.

PJ

>

> > Really? I miss pizza every time I look at one - or smell the aroma wafting

down the street. I don't crave it though, just miss it when I'm in sensory

range.

>

> > Mara

>

[Guest guest]

Kim- what an inspiring story of recovery.

PJ

> >

> > Hello again,

> >

> > It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for

everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be

years and some things you may never tolerate.

> > For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can

also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't

tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella

contamination stuff was going on and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to

try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery

store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my

own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing.

With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little

so that he doesn't over do it.

> > He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm

that he can't eat at all.

> > So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things

he has to limit how much he has.

> > And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much

time varies from person to person.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> > Take care,

> > Kim H.

> > husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: smdsmom2008

> > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

> > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:19:48 AM

> > Subject: starving the bugs question

> >

> >

> > Part of this diet is about starving the bad bugs out, and since we are all

different, I know this takes time, but how much time? I am now entering month 4

of SCD, with noticeable improvement. There are still SCD foods that I do better

with and some foods I have to be careful with. I'm still pretty much cooking and

peeling fruits and veggies although I can tolerate a little bit of raw. Nut

butters are OK, nut flours are still " iffy " . I think I am on track, but

wondering about the next step. Do I just keep advancing slowly, trial and error?

When do you ever feel " safe " , like wow, I can eat this ( SCD legal )! I look at

the SCD cookbooks and wonder when can you really eat all this great stuff?

> >

> > PJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've been rinsing produce with white vinegar lately. It makes me feel better about it but I like growing my own too.

Kim H.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:07:16 AMSubject: Re: starving the bugs question

We wash all our produce with a solution made of grapefruit seed extract and water. GSE is supposed to kill about anything, so it should make eating raw a bit safer. I'd love to grow my own garden though!HollyCrohn'sSCD 12/01/08>> Hello again,> > It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. > For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on

and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. > He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. > So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. > And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person.> > Hope this helps.> Take care,> Kim H.> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002

[Guest guest]

I've been rinsing produce with white vinegar lately. It makes me feel better about it but I like growing my own too.

Kim H.

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:07:16 AMSubject: Re: starving the bugs question

We wash all our produce with a solution made of grapefruit seed extract and water. GSE is supposed to kill about anything, so it should make eating raw a bit safer. I'd love to grow my own garden though!HollyCrohn'sSCD 12/01/08>> Hello again,> > It's really different for everyone. These diseases are so different for everyone so there's no way to say how much time....could be months, could be years and some things you may never tolerate. > For , he can eat some fruit but if he over does it, he gets D. He can also tolerate some raw but he can't sit and eat raw fruit all day. We haven't tried salads in a long while. Last time we did, it was when all that salmonella contamination stuff was going on

and he got it so I've been kind of afraid to try it again. I have a real hard time trusting the produce from the grocery store now. I'm going to grow a garden this fall and I'll make salad out of my own, non-contaminated veggies and see how it goes. 's problem is over-doing. With him, nothing is in moderation so I have to be careful to only make a little so that he doesn't over do it. > He can't tolerate pineapple at all. That's the only thing I can think of atm that he can't eat at all. > So, for him, yeah, he can have most things in the cookbooks but some things he has to limit how much he has. > And, yes, you just keep advancing slowly. It takes time to heal and how much time varies from person to person.> > Hope this helps.> Take care,> Kim H.> husband, , CD 1999, SCD 2002