Re: New here-need advice

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:10:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mariapamom@... writes:

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

I believe there is some readiness testing/screening that can be done. We're

in NY and our kids were screened by their nursery school. I'm not sure what

the tests are or if there is a specific approved set of tests. The nursery

school where we sent both our kids would do this readiness testing in the

spring

for the 4-year-old classes. Parents were given the results. The school would

explain the results but not make specific recommendations, since that was not

their job. They often helped identify learning disabilities, so I felt that

it was a really good thing. If we parents had concerns with any results, we

were encouraged to take the results to our local school and discuss things

with them, and to look into additional testing if we felt the need.

What I remember them testing was reading and pre-reading skills, basic math

skills, fine and gross motor skills, and maturity issues. Perhaps you could

contact the local school district and inquire if there is any screening you

could have done.

Our Ian started kindergarten at 4 and turned 5 a few weeks into the school

year. Our cut-off date was 12/1 then, I'm not sure if that's changed (Ian's 15

now, so it may have). He knew his alphabet and was writing notes to us

(spelled phonetically: hat = hate or hat). He was reading simple books or

parts

of books, like Hop on Pop or One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish. He could

count and do simple addition. From what we could tell, he was ready, even

though he was both younger and smaller than most of the kids. But so was I, so

that was not a concern for us.

Hope this helps,

Jill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/6/2006 11:10:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mariapamom@... writes:

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

I believe there is some readiness testing/screening that can be done. We're

in NY and our kids were screened by their nursery school. I'm not sure what

the tests are or if there is a specific approved set of tests. The nursery

school where we sent both our kids would do this readiness testing in the

spring

for the 4-year-old classes. Parents were given the results. The school would

explain the results but not make specific recommendations, since that was not

their job. They often helped identify learning disabilities, so I felt that

it was a really good thing. If we parents had concerns with any results, we

were encouraged to take the results to our local school and discuss things

with them, and to look into additional testing if we felt the need.

What I remember them testing was reading and pre-reading skills, basic math

skills, fine and gross motor skills, and maturity issues. Perhaps you could

contact the local school district and inquire if there is any screening you

could have done.

Our Ian started kindergarten at 4 and turned 5 a few weeks into the school

year. Our cut-off date was 12/1 then, I'm not sure if that's changed (Ian's 15

now, so it may have). He knew his alphabet and was writing notes to us

(spelled phonetically: hat = hate or hat). He was reading simple books or

parts

of books, like Hop on Pop or One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish. He could

count and do simple addition. From what we could tell, he was ready, even

though he was both younger and smaller than most of the kids. But so was I, so

that was not a concern for us.

Hope this helps,

Jill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/6/2006 1:10:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

semesky@... writes:

3- Physical stamina to go a full day

Around here Kindergarten is a half day, except at the magnet schools. Had

Kindergarten been a full-day program, I might have considered holding Ian back.

That would also be a consideration. But we are pleased with our decision not

to hold Ian back.

Also, around here, if the child isn't ready to move from K to 1st, there is

a K-1 program which is a half-way point. It's a full-day program for little

guys not ready to move up to 1st and for kids who need more than just

Kindergarten for a variety of reasons. The children move from this program into

1st

grade. The school may have options you're not aware of, so I'd ask them about

this as well.

My brother chose to hold his son back, and the boy is just two months

younger than our daughter (a Feb b'day) because he was simply not ready, not

mature

enough. And they are very happy with the choice. He's a great kid,

well-adjusted and a good student. For him it was the right choice.

This really depends on the child. It worked well for our nephew but holding

our daughter back would have been a HUGE mistake. My brother's second son was

not held back and his birthday is in the fall like our Ian's. You have to

judge this one kid at a time.

Best -- Jill

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/6/2006 1:10:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

semesky@... writes:

3- Physical stamina to go a full day

Around here Kindergarten is a half day, except at the magnet schools. Had

Kindergarten been a full-day program, I might have considered holding Ian back.

That would also be a consideration. But we are pleased with our decision not

to hold Ian back.

Also, around here, if the child isn't ready to move from K to 1st, there is

a K-1 program which is a half-way point. It's a full-day program for little

guys not ready to move up to 1st and for kids who need more than just

Kindergarten for a variety of reasons. The children move from this program into

1st

grade. The school may have options you're not aware of, so I'd ask them about

this as well.

My brother chose to hold his son back, and the boy is just two months

younger than our daughter (a Feb b'day) because he was simply not ready, not

mature

enough. And they are very happy with the choice. He's a great kid,

well-adjusted and a good student. For him it was the right choice.

This really depends on the child. It worked well for our nephew but holding

our daughter back would have been a HUGE mistake. My brother's second son was

not held back and his birthday is in the fall like our Ian's. You have to

judge this one kid at a time.

Best -- Jill

[Guest guest]

, welcome!!! HOH or not, I hear over and over again that nobody regrets

their decision to wait a year. I sent (9/6) right when he turned 5. He

just wasn't ready maturity wise, although he excelled at the academics. I held

him back last year (1st grade) and it was the best thing I ever did! I couldn't

have made that decision without the wonderful support and advice from the ladies

here! has so much more confidence and is a leader rather than a follower

this year. Now, I always recommend the extra year if people ask me. I wish we

had waited.

HTH

Cherie (mom to , 7 - SNHL, - 5 1/2 - hearing, and - 4

on Friday! - Conductive loss)

wrote:

Hi all,

I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

anyone has experience making that happen.

Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

God Bless,

Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

(12) and Aidan (4))

-Recycle Yourself

Become an Organ Donor

[Guest guest]

, welcome!!! HOH or not, I hear over and over again that nobody regrets

their decision to wait a year. I sent (9/6) right when he turned 5. He

just wasn't ready maturity wise, although he excelled at the academics. I held

him back last year (1st grade) and it was the best thing I ever did! I couldn't

have made that decision without the wonderful support and advice from the ladies

here! has so much more confidence and is a leader rather than a follower

this year. Now, I always recommend the extra year if people ask me. I wish we

had waited.

HTH

Cherie (mom to , 7 - SNHL, - 5 1/2 - hearing, and - 4

on Friday! - Conductive loss)

wrote:

Hi all,

I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

anyone has experience making that happen.

Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

God Bless,

Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

(12) and Aidan (4))

-Recycle Yourself

Become an Organ Donor

[Guest guest]

Hi - my daughter is also 4 (but her BD is in 2 months!) Her loss is more in the

moderate range but she hears around 20-25 dcb aided. Of course we did not find

out about her loss until she was 4 years old (in May). She has been in a

preschool type of program since she was 2. SHe is also attending a Catholic

school - not private but its along the same lines with dealing with these

issues. She is doing great in school and she is moving up to kindergarten next

year. My main issue is her behavior because she has to focus so hard on one

thing to hear it that she won't hear the teacher if she is focusing on the

conversation next to her. But I hear that although she can be a " pepper " (her

teacher's words!) that she does do very well with her work. She went from not

even knowing her ABCs in the begining of the year to signing songs!!! NAnd its

songs she hears in school!!!

However, I think you have to look at your son as an individual. For example,

my neice who is not impaired in any way is being held back one year by my

sister. She didn't feel she was emotionally ready to go to school - very

immature in her words. So it just all depends on what you think your child is

capable of doing. He can always repeat kindergarten another year if you decide

to send him forward and then feel he is truely ready.

wrote:

Hi all,

I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

anyone has experience making that happen.

Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

God Bless,

Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

(12) and Aidan (4))

-Recycle Yourself

Become an Organ Donor

[Guest guest]

Hi - my daughter is also 4 (but her BD is in 2 months!) Her loss is more in the

moderate range but she hears around 20-25 dcb aided. Of course we did not find

out about her loss until she was 4 years old (in May). She has been in a

preschool type of program since she was 2. SHe is also attending a Catholic

school - not private but its along the same lines with dealing with these

issues. She is doing great in school and she is moving up to kindergarten next

year. My main issue is her behavior because she has to focus so hard on one

thing to hear it that she won't hear the teacher if she is focusing on the

conversation next to her. But I hear that although she can be a " pepper " (her

teacher's words!) that she does do very well with her work. She went from not

even knowing her ABCs in the begining of the year to signing songs!!! NAnd its

songs she hears in school!!!

However, I think you have to look at your son as an individual. For example,

my neice who is not impaired in any way is being held back one year by my

sister. She didn't feel she was emotionally ready to go to school - very

immature in her words. So it just all depends on what you think your child is

capable of doing. He can always repeat kindergarten another year if you decide

to send him forward and then feel he is truely ready.

wrote:

Hi all,

I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

anyone has experience making that happen.

Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

God Bless,

Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

(12) and Aidan (4))

-Recycle Yourself

Become an Organ Donor

[Guest guest]

Hi , my daughter attends a private christian college prep school. There

are about 900 kids in 4K through 12th grade. She is now in the 8th. Her

diagnosis was at 3 3/4 years so we did a year of 4K at a church preschool, a

year of 5 K at a church preschool and then she started at the school she is at

now in 5K. Our local public school district is TERRIBLE and nearly 30% of kids

in the county go to private school. It has been that way for years. Special ed

here is the pits. So most of the private schools accept kids with LD, ADHD and

even hearing loss. They all have programs for learning differences and there is

a private school that is only for LD/ADHD etc. Our private school had an older

child who did high school there with hearing loss and mild CP, so they were

very willing to give my daughter a try. She has done exceptionally well

academically, socially and we are very pleased. She used a soundfield then an

FM but won't use it now. They were always wonderful about using it (except for

a brief time with one teacher). There are now 2 other kids with hearing loss,

a little girl with a CI and a little boy with AN and hearing aids. About 6 or 7

total kids with soundfields or FMs because several kids use them with CAPD.

There are parent meetings with parents of kids who use the learning assistance

program, we used to attend because our older daughter has ADHD.

We had planned to send our daughter to Catholic school as her older sisters did

but they had too large of a class size and would have 2 new teachers for the 5 K

so it was just a little too much unknown. We looked at several schools. All

would have accepted her. One we really liked because they do Latin starting in

2nd grade but again classes were too big. So we switched to the " protestant "

Christian school because they had only 18 kids per class. We also knew several

teachers at the school she goes to now and so it was an easy transition for us.

They have always been very welcoming and gracious about seating and using the FM

and using captions and headphones that Maggie was comfortable with in the

computer lab. So it can work. Contact me off list if you have any questions.

in GA

[Guest guest]

Hi , my daughter attends a private christian college prep school. There

are about 900 kids in 4K through 12th grade. She is now in the 8th. Her

diagnosis was at 3 3/4 years so we did a year of 4K at a church preschool, a

year of 5 K at a church preschool and then she started at the school she is at

now in 5K. Our local public school district is TERRIBLE and nearly 30% of kids

in the county go to private school. It has been that way for years. Special ed

here is the pits. So most of the private schools accept kids with LD, ADHD and

even hearing loss. They all have programs for learning differences and there is

a private school that is only for LD/ADHD etc. Our private school had an older

child who did high school there with hearing loss and mild CP, so they were

very willing to give my daughter a try. She has done exceptionally well

academically, socially and we are very pleased. She used a soundfield then an

FM but won't use it now. They were always wonderful about using it (except for

a brief time with one teacher). There are now 2 other kids with hearing loss,

a little girl with a CI and a little boy with AN and hearing aids. About 6 or 7

total kids with soundfields or FMs because several kids use them with CAPD.

There are parent meetings with parents of kids who use the learning assistance

program, we used to attend because our older daughter has ADHD.

We had planned to send our daughter to Catholic school as her older sisters did

but they had too large of a class size and would have 2 new teachers for the 5 K

so it was just a little too much unknown. We looked at several schools. All

would have accepted her. One we really liked because they do Latin starting in

2nd grade but again classes were too big. So we switched to the " protestant "

Christian school because they had only 18 kids per class. We also knew several

teachers at the school she goes to now and so it was an easy transition for us.

They have always been very welcoming and gracious about seating and using the FM

and using captions and headphones that Maggie was comfortable with in the

computer lab. So it can work. Contact me off list if you have any questions.

in GA

[Guest guest]

The three most important factors in my opinion are

1- Social skills

2- Ability to sit still and focus/follow instructions

3- Physical stamina to go a full day

The academic ability is the lowest on the totem pole. If he doesn't fit in

socially, he'll be miserable. If he can't sit still during circle time or

follow instructions, many teachers will look at him less than favorably and many

kids will look at him as a troublemaker. If he can't make it through the day

without getting exhausted, he'll have many more meltdowns and stress over

school. If he's immature socially, I'd recommend to wait it out. You can have

the smartest kid in the world but if he gets picked on for being immature and

doesn't have many friends as a result, it's a very negative experience. One

year makes a big difference in maturity and who cares if you graduate from

college at 23 or 24?

[Guest guest]

The three most important factors in my opinion are

1- Social skills

2- Ability to sit still and focus/follow instructions

3- Physical stamina to go a full day

The academic ability is the lowest on the totem pole. If he doesn't fit in

socially, he'll be miserable. If he can't sit still during circle time or

follow instructions, many teachers will look at him less than favorably and many

kids will look at him as a troublemaker. If he can't make it through the day

without getting exhausted, he'll have many more meltdowns and stress over

school. If he's immature socially, I'd recommend to wait it out. You can have

the smartest kid in the world but if he gets picked on for being immature and

doesn't have many friends as a result, it's a very negative experience. One

year makes a big difference in maturity and who cares if you graduate from

college at 23 or 24?

[Guest guest]

Hi again, I forgot to mention that Maggie has a late August birthday and with

her late diagnosis we thought it best to hold her back. So she did 5K twice and

we emphasized to her that the first time 5K was not in " real school " so she

never felt like she failed and we held her back. It was a planned delay. Her

older sister is born in August and we sent her at 5 to 5K. It worked out ok for

her. Though she wanted to be home schooled!! Your son's hearing loss sounds

very close to Maggie's. Forgot to mention that we also did AVT and it was a

good thing because Maggie is a very auditory learner. THough her visual skills

are tremendous. She also has very poor ability to hear in noise so the FM was a

must! The first 5K we did not have the soundfield and she learned nothing. The

next time she did 5K she was reading by the spring. in GA

New here-need advice

>

>Hi all,

>

>I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

>feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

>

>

>

>My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

>starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

>the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

>conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

>surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

>adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

>(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

>hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

>sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

>hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

>

>

>

>My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

>an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

>mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

>We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

>anyone has experience making that happen.

>

>

>

>Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

>to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

>off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

>the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

>

>

>

>How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

>

>

>

>He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

>numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

>sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

>

>

>

>I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

>grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

>

>

>

>God Bless,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

>(12) and Aidan (4))

>

>-Recycle Yourself

>

>Become an Organ Donor

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again, I forgot to mention that Maggie has a late August birthday and with

her late diagnosis we thought it best to hold her back. So she did 5K twice and

we emphasized to her that the first time 5K was not in " real school " so she

never felt like she failed and we held her back. It was a planned delay. Her

older sister is born in August and we sent her at 5 to 5K. It worked out ok for

her. Though she wanted to be home schooled!! Your son's hearing loss sounds

very close to Maggie's. Forgot to mention that we also did AVT and it was a

good thing because Maggie is a very auditory learner. THough her visual skills

are tremendous. She also has very poor ability to hear in noise so the FM was a

must! The first 5K we did not have the soundfield and she learned nothing. The

next time she did 5K she was reading by the spring. in GA

New here-need advice

>

>Hi all,

>

>I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to give

>feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

>

>

>

>My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

>starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie on

>the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

>conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable doing

>surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

>adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

>(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

>hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

>sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides he

>hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

>

>

>

>My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and has

>an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

>mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian school.

>We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to hear if

>anyone has experience making that happen.

>

>

>

>Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to go

>to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and the cut

>off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent him

>the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

>

>

>

>How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

>

>

>

>He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

>numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

>sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well though.

>

>

>

>I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral for my

>grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

>

>

>

>God Bless,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom of Zoe

>(12) and Aidan (4))

>

>-Recycle Yourself

>

>Become an Organ Donor

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It sounds like your son is doing really well. My daughter had a

smiliar diagnosis-fluid like rubber cement and they think it caused

permanent damage. She is around 25 db with aids as well. I put

Kaley in a special needs preschool 2 days a week and mainstream 3

days. She is an Oct birthday--cut off in Michigan is Dec 1 but I

still held her. I was torn because she was ready for more

learning/challenge. I ended up deciding if she had one more year

for increased attention span and improved speech she would keep up a

bit easier. It was a good gamble for me. HOH kids have to work

hard to keep pace as the academic stakes increase. I moved her to

a mainstream class at a private catholic school in 1st grade. Class

sizes are small--17 per teacher. She has a Hearing Impaired

Specialist who works with teachers once a month to ensure her needs

are met and is pulled out for speech. Other than that-she functions

on her own and does very well academically. It is a very personal

choice so trust your gut. Heart of hearts, parents know what their

kids can handle. Best of luck.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best

to give

> feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

>

>

>

> My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is

where he

> starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a

cookie on

> the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they

believed it to be

> conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt

comfortable doing

> surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in

and

> adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like

jello.

> (because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that

his

> hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-

severe

> sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his

aides he

> hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

>

>

>

> My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed

and has

> an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want

Aidan

> mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian

school.

> We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love

to hear if

> anyone has experience making that happen.

>

>

>

> Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of

age to go

> to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob

and the cut

> off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we

sent him

> the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

>

>

>

> How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

>

>

>

> He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He

knows the

> numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest

problem is

> sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well

though.

>

>

>

> I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a

funeral for my

> grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was

gone.

>

>

>

> God Bless,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also

mom of Zoe

> (12) and Aidan (4))

>

> -Recycle Yourself

>

> Become an Organ Donor

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It sounds like your son is doing really well. My daughter had a

smiliar diagnosis-fluid like rubber cement and they think it caused

permanent damage. She is around 25 db with aids as well. I put

Kaley in a special needs preschool 2 days a week and mainstream 3

days. She is an Oct birthday--cut off in Michigan is Dec 1 but I

still held her. I was torn because she was ready for more

learning/challenge. I ended up deciding if she had one more year

for increased attention span and improved speech she would keep up a

bit easier. It was a good gamble for me. HOH kids have to work

hard to keep pace as the academic stakes increase. I moved her to

a mainstream class at a private catholic school in 1st grade. Class

sizes are small--17 per teacher. She has a Hearing Impaired

Specialist who works with teachers once a month to ensure her needs

are met and is pulled out for speech. Other than that-she functions

on her own and does very well academically. It is a very personal

choice so trust your gut. Heart of hearts, parents know what their

kids can handle. Best of luck.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best

to give

> feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

>

>

>

> My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is

where he

> starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a

cookie on

> the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they

believed it to be

> conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt

comfortable doing

> surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in

and

> adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like

jello.

> (because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that

his

> hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-

severe

> sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his

aides he

> hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

>

>

>

> My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed

and has

> an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want

Aidan

> mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian

school.

> We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love

to hear if

> anyone has experience making that happen.

>

>

>

> Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of

age to go

> to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob

and the cut

> off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we

sent him

> the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

>

>

>

> How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

>

>

>

> He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He

knows the

> numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest

problem is

> sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well

though.

>

>

>

> I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a

funeral for my

> grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was

gone.

>

>

>

> God Bless,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also

mom of Zoe

> (12) and Aidan (4))

>

> -Recycle Yourself

>

> Become an Organ Donor

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

repeated first grade too. He's off the charts intellectually, but

struggled with attention and socialization issues. Through middle school, he

really needed that extra year. In 9th grade, he now hangs out with 9th, 10th

and 11th graders and fits with them all. The hardest thing we deal with now is

to get him to realize that Gifted and Talented classes require studying. He

just brought home a report card full of more A's than B's so we're tickled as

last year he still saw no value to grades. Had he started his high school

career then, he'd be in deep academic trouble now.

[Guest guest]

,

3 of my four children waited a year for school, 2 hearing, 1 HOH. It

was the right decision for them through middle school, but at a certain

point they became too old for their environment. That is, they were

ready for more responsibility, but the school structure couldn't

provide it. There is not good solution that works from preschool

through high school, in my opinion.

New here-need advice

Hi all,

I am in dire need of help and I figured you all would be the best to

give

feedback on what I should do based on your experiences.

My son Aidan is 4. He is hard-of-hearing (mid-range 60 dbs is where he

starts to hear.he has a strange loss.it is like a bite out of a cookie

on

the audiogram). He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it

to be

conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt comfortable

doing

surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

(because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his aides

he

hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

My brother is also profoundly deaf. (90 dbs) He was mainstreamed and

has

an MBA.he does very well. That is a whole different issue.we want Aidan

mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian

school.

We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to

hear if

anyone has experience making that happen.

Now, we have sent Aidan to 3 years of preschool. He would be of age to

go

to kindergarten next year. (He would be late.July 27 is his dob and

the cut

off is the end of August here.) My 8-year-old was July 23 and we sent

him

the first year even though we had doubts and he is doing well.

How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

He knows greater than the 10 letters that he should to go. He knows the

numbers 1-10. He writes well using pincer grip. His biggest problem is

sitting still for more than 10 minutes. That is improving as well

though.

I am sure there are things here I left out. I am headed to a funeral

for my

grandmother-in-law and wanted to get you all thinking while I was gone.

God Bless,

Mom of Noah (8) UC, PSC, Osteopenia (1-4 lumbar vertebrae)--(also mom

of Zoe

(12) and Aidan (4))

-Recycle Yourself

Become an Organ Donor

[Guest guest]

> He failed his newborn screening, but they believed it to be

> conductive due to chronic fluid in the ear and no one felt

comfortable doing

> surgery early on. After changing doctors, he had his tubes put in and

> adenoids out. The fluid in the ear turned out to be more like jello.

> (because of how long it was there) At that point it did seem that his

> hearing improved, but eventually he was diagnosed with moderately-severe

> sensoneural hearing loss. He was aided at 2-years-old. With his

aides he

> hears at about 25 dbs in that mid-range.

Hi . You probably already know this, but if your son's hearing

loss is sensorineural, the ear goop probably had nothing to do with

his ultimate diagnosis (although you're right, getting the goop out

does eliminate the conductive portion of the hearing loss, and sure

does help).

> we want Aidan

> mainstreamed.but our two other children attend a private Christian

school.

> We would like for Aidan to go with them eventually. I would love to

hear if

> anyone has experience making that happen.

There are some interesting things that happened just this year (as of

last summer) with the IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education

Act). First, if you take your child out of the public schools, you

waive your 'right to a free and appropriate public education'. That

means that the private school isn't obligated to do anything for you

That has long been the case, and hasn't changed.

However, in the past, if your child had a documented disability and

needed services (e.g. speech), it *would* in fact be the

responsibility of the school district in *your town of residence* (not

the town where the school was) to provide these services, regardless

of financial obligation. Now, that's all changed. Now it is the

obligation of the town *where the school is* to provide the

services...AND, the way the money is allocated is different. It's my

understanding that now the school gets $X for each child with a

special need, and the school spends that on services as they see fit

-- when the money runs out, there's no more. So the school might get

$10k for all its special needs students, and since most of them need

resource, they spend it on a remedial reading teacher, and so your kid

is out of luck with speech.

That said, the school cannot discriminate against Aidan and deny him

admission because of his hearing loss. Some private schools are more

than willing to work with parents on accommodations. For example, if

you want an FM system in the classroom, the school does not have to

provide one. But they might just do it anyway. It's certainly worth

asking.

> How do you figure out whether to send or hold back?

It's kind of like deciding what to have for dinner. :-) Sometimes, you

just know what you want to do. Other times, you punt.

Is Aidan having problems in school now? If sitting still for ten

minutes is his only 'issue', I think that's actually pretty normal for

a preschooler. Heck, I'm 38 and I can barely sit still for that long. :-)

If a kid is likely to have problems in school, those usually don't

manifest themselves until kindergarten. K is when kids are expected to

learn how to sit still, listen, begin to engage in group activities,

etc. As far as I'm concerned, K is the time to LEARN these things --

they're not prerequisites to be ready for K.

My son's birthday was right at the cutoff date, too, and I had to

decide what to do. I didn't hold him back, for a few reasons -- one,

he was already way ahead of his peers academically, and I didn't want

boredom making him misbehave, and two, he was already a head taller

than all the kids in his preschool. :-) I am confident I made the

right decision. He's now in third grade, and is still academically at

the head of the class in most subjects (he's already reading teen

fiction)...as bored as he is in class now, I can only imagine how bad

it would be if he was still in second grade! And he's still bigger

than most of the other kids in his class...as a second-grader, he'd be

a monster! :-)

So, just some thoughts about what helped in our decision-making. Good

luck in making your decisions!

Best,

Kerri

[Guest guest]

I meant to mention this about my Tom - just the opposite - he's small

and even in 7th grade, is one of the shorter kids. So he doesn't look

like a giant among kids even with a class a year younger! Every kid is

so different...

kerrikerrik wrote:

>

>

> My son's birthday was right at the cutoff date, too, and I had to

> decide what to do. I didn't hold him back, for a few reasons -- one,

> he was already way ahead of his peers academically, and I didn't want

> boredom making him misbehave, and two, he was already a head taller

> than all the kids in his preschool. :-) I am confident I made the

> right decision. He's now in third grade, and is still academically at

> the head of the class in most subjects (he's already reading teen

> fiction)...as bored as he is in class now, I can only imagine how bad

> it would be if he was still in second grade! And he's still bigger

> than most of the other kids in his class...as a second-grader, he'd be

> a monster! :-)

>

> So, just some thoughts about what helped in our decision-making. Good

> luck in making your decisions!

>

> Best,

> Kerri

>

>

>