Re: Incredible language gains with chelation

[Guest guest]

We are presently using 40mg each ALA & DMSA. We have been at this dose for

about 15 rounds and we will probably stay at this for quite a while--it seems a

very comfortable dose, without bad side effects. He's also about 130 lbs.

And yes, it's been a little over a year since we started. I fully expect to be

doing this for at least another 2-3 years, if not more.

[Guest guest]

Wow, ! Terrific news!

Nell

[Guest guest]

Congratulations!!!! That is great!

Michele

> My son is 11, and fairly high-functioning--while his language has

never

> previously been age-level appropriate, he could clearly make his

needs known-he was

> always about 3-4 years behind his peers in testing.

>

> We have just finished round 38. There has been an explosion of

language in

> the past several rounds--vocabulary is noticeably increasing, in

fact, he is

> talking up a storm at school. More significantly, his reasoning

abilities are

> taking off. He is arguing with us, pointing out that our " answers "

are

> silly-(that our reasons for something aren't sound--and he's

right!) We are seeing

> abstract thinking skills for the first time ever--talking about

time travel,

> how if we could travel to the future we could change things

happening now, .

>

> His writing ability at school--always labored, never spontaneous--

has also

> taken off. His caseworker is sending home a poem (a POEM??!!) that

my son has

> written, which, she said, is hugely abstract and introspective. It

was lengthy

> and completely done independently.

>

> There is no question in my mind--nor the school's--that these gains

aren't

> happening " developmentally. " His class teacher and his caseworker

know about

> the chelation and have said, " keep it going! " Our biggest

challenges are, as

> he becomes more and more social, keeping him from insisting on

being part of

> the 'popular " group of boys (i.e., the " cool " kids who have

absolutely no

> patience for my son and are blatantly mean to him and who also have

fun at his

> expense). The school is very aware of this and are trying to get

him to understand

> the concept of what a friend really is and to stay clear of those

who do not

> have his best interests at heart. The school is also taking a hard

> anti-bullying stance and has hit on this many times this year with

my son's entire 5th

> grade class. It's a tough task for a school, especially when so

much bullying

> is displayed and reinforced as acceptable by parents and siblings.

My son

> does, fortunately, have several good friends at school but he keeps

gravitating

> towards these mean-spirited, popular kids, especially at recess and

during

> lunch. However, this truly is our biggest focus of concern that

probably wouldn't

> be occurring at all were it not for his tremendous gains in

language.

>

> Anyway, these gains became more evident once we started doing

chelation every

> weekend. Before that, we did 3 on 11 off. It seemed he would make

mild

> gains, then lose them between rounds. Now we are seeing more

consistency--more

> sustained gains and less regression.

>

> So hang in there those of you who feel that chelation is

progressing too

> slowly or not at all. I truly feel in my heart, that this is such

an important

> piece, along with anti-viral issues and all of the other

interventions and

> therapies we need to constantly try, reexamine, and try again. I

have no doubt

> that we will hit more lulls, where improvement won't be obvious,

but my son's

> success will continue to motivate us to keep going.

>

> By the way, my son's most recent speech testing actually found him

in the

> average range in a couple of areas for the first time ever. He

also made a 10

> point gain on his nonverbal i.q. testing from 3 years ago.

>

> So to the IOM, FDA, and every other government agency/medical

expert that

> discredits chelation as an effective treatment for autism:

>

> (BIG GIANT DISGUSTING RASPBERRY SOUND EMITTING FROM MY MOUTH).

>

> So there.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW , this is great. Thank you for posting this. What are you chelating

with?

With 38 rounds in, it sounds like you are chelating for about a year with

this? To think you started at age 10, and getting these results I am

thrilled. We are just starting with an 8 year old.

nne

[ ] Incredible language gains with chelation

My son is 11, and fairly high-functioning--while his language has never

previously been age-level appropriate, he could clearly make his needs

known-he was

always about 3-4 years behind his peers in testing.

We have just finished round 38. There has been an explosion of language in

the past several rounds--vocabulary is noticeably increasing, in fact, he is

talking up a storm at school. More significantly, his reasoning abilities

are

taking off. He is arguing with us, pointing out that our " answers " are

silly-(that our reasons for something aren't sound--and he's right!) We

are seeing

abstract thinking skills for the first time ever--talking about time travel,

how if we could travel to the future we could change things happening now, .

His writing ability at school--always labored, never spontaneous--has also

taken off. His caseworker is sending home a poem (a POEM??!!) that my son

has

written, which, she said, is hugely abstract and introspective. It was

lengthy

and completely done independently.

There is no question in my mind--nor the school's--that these gains aren't

happening " developmentally. " His class teacher and his caseworker know

about

the chelation and have said, " keep it going! " Our biggest challenges are,

as

he becomes more and more social, keeping him from insisting on being part of

the 'popular " group of boys (i.e., the " cool " kids who have absolutely no

patience for my son and are blatantly mean to him and who also have fun at

his

expense). The school is very aware of this and are trying to get him to

understand

the concept of what a friend really is and to stay clear of those who do not

have his best interests at heart. The school is also taking a hard

anti-bullying stance and has hit on this many times this year with my son's

entire 5th

grade class. It's a tough task for a school, especially when so much

bullying

is displayed and reinforced as acceptable by parents and siblings. My son

does, fortunately, have several good friends at school but he keeps

gravitating

towards these mean-spirited, popular kids, especially at recess and during

lunch. However, this truly is our biggest focus of concern that probably

wouldn't

be occurring at all were it not for his tremendous gains in language.

Anyway, these gains became more evident once we started doing chelation

every

weekend. Before that, we did 3 on 11 off. It seemed he would make mild

gains, then lose them between rounds. Now we are seeing more

consistency--more

sustained gains and less regression.

So hang in there those of you who feel that chelation is progressing too

slowly or not at all. I truly feel in my heart, that this is such an

important

piece, along with anti-viral issues and all of the other interventions and

therapies we need to constantly try, reexamine, and try again. I have no

doubt

that we will hit more lulls, where improvement won't be obvious, but my

son's

success will continue to motivate us to keep going.

By the way, my son's most recent speech testing actually found him in the

average range in a couple of areas for the first time ever. He also made a

10

point gain on his nonverbal i.q. testing from 3 years ago.

So to the IOM, FDA, and every other government agency/medical expert that

discredits chelation as an effective treatment for autism:

(BIG GIANT DISGUSTING RASPBERRY SOUND EMITTING FROM MY MOUTH).

So there.

[Guest guest]

Let's not get carried away. The fact that a therapy works does not

preclude its being proscribed by CDC-funded servants within the IOM. In

our loyalty to Higher Authorities, we are supposed to take the IOM's

anti-chelation words as Gospel, and to do so humbly, obediently, and

without a hint of doubt regarding the sanctity of the CDC, IOM, and AAP.

As we're learning when scientific fraud (aka deliberate dilution of

data) is enacted by the CDC on behalf of Vaccine Religiosity (eg,

Verstraeten et al 2003), then that fraud is politely acceptable.

Just kidding!!! Congratulations, even as we must somehow have the ACIP,

CDC, IOM, and AAP fraud-artists and collusionists removed from their

positions so that they quit harming infants and toddlers!

Momlaw@... wrote:

>My son is 11, and fairly high-functioning--while his language has never

>previously been age-level appropriate, he could clearly make his needs known-he

was

>always about 3-4 years behind his peers in testing.

>

>We have just finished round 38. There has been an explosion of language in

>the past several rounds--vocabulary is noticeably increasing, in fact, he is

>talking up a storm at school. More significantly, his reasoning abilities are

>taking off. He is arguing with us, pointing out that our " answers " are

>silly-(that our reasons for something aren't sound--and he's right!) We are

seeing

>abstract thinking skills for the first time ever--talking about time travel,

>how if we could travel to the future we could change things happening now, .

>

>His writing ability at school--always labored, never spontaneous--has also

>taken off. His caseworker is sending home a poem (a POEM??!!) that my son has

>written, which, she said, is hugely abstract and introspective. It was lengthy

>and completely done independently.

>

>There is no question in my mind--nor the school's--that these gains aren't

>happening " developmentally. " His class teacher and his caseworker know about

>the chelation and have said, " keep it going! " Our biggest challenges are, as

>he becomes more and more social, keeping him from insisting on being part of

>the 'popular " group of boys (i.e., the " cool " kids who have absolutely no

>patience for my son and are blatantly mean to him and who also have fun at his

>expense). The school is very aware of this and are trying to get him to

understand

>the concept of what a friend really is and to stay clear of those who do not

>have his best interests at heart. The school is also taking a hard

>anti-bullying stance and has hit on this many times this year with my son's

entire 5th

>grade class. It's a tough task for a school, especially when so much bullying

>is displayed and reinforced as acceptable by parents and siblings. My son

>does, fortunately, have several good friends at school but he keeps gravitating

>towards these mean-spirited, popular kids, especially at recess and during

>lunch. However, this truly is our biggest focus of concern that probably

wouldn't

>be occurring at all were it not for his tremendous gains in language.

>

>Anyway, these gains became more evident once we started doing chelation every

>weekend. Before that, we did 3 on 11 off. It seemed he would make mild

>gains, then lose them between rounds. Now we are seeing more consistency--more

>sustained gains and less regression.

>

>So hang in there those of you who feel that chelation is progressing too

>slowly or not at all. I truly feel in my heart, that this is such an important

>piece, along with anti-viral issues and all of the other interventions and

>therapies we need to constantly try, reexamine, and try again. I have no doubt

>that we will hit more lulls, where improvement won't be obvious, but my son's

>success will continue to motivate us to keep going.

>

>By the way, my son's most recent speech testing actually found him in the

>average range in a couple of areas for the first time ever. He also made a 10

>point gain on his nonverbal i.q. testing from 3 years ago.

>

>So to the IOM, FDA, and every other government agency/medical expert that

>discredits chelation as an effective treatment for autism:

>

>(BIG GIANT DISGUSTING RASPBERRY SOUND EMITTING FROM MY MOUTH).

>

>So there.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Let's not get carried away. The fact that a therapy works does not

> preclude its being proscribed by CDC-funded servants within the IOM. In

> our loyalty to Higher Authorities, we are supposed to take the IOM's

> anti-chelation words as Gospel, and to do so humbly, obediently, and

> without a hint of doubt regarding the sanctity of the CDC, IOM, and AAP.

> As we're learning when scientific fraud (aka deliberate dilution of

> data) is enacted by the CDC on behalf of Vaccine Religiosity (eg,

> Verstraeten et al 2003), then that fraud is politely acceptable.

I see has a mature undestanding of what institutions and

government are all about.

> Just kidding!!! Congratulations, even as we must somehow have the ACIP,

> CDC, IOM, and AAP fraud-artists and collusionists removed from their

> positions so that they quit harming infants and toddlers!

The easiest way to do this is going to be to destroy the positions

rather than pry the people out of them.

E. g. insist to your legislators that the federal deficit is so high

that the IOM and CDC need to have their budgets reduced to zero and

kept there.

The AAP needs to get sued a lot so it gets bankrupted.

Andy . .. . . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

Dear

I thank you from the bottom of my heart

for giving hope

my son is 3 years old, ASD

we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

but not chelation yet

our DAN! doctor wants us to test for yeast, etc first

I just can't hardly wait!

I want my child back!

thank you and to your family

for keeping my hopes afloat

Jzin

California

> My son is 11, and fairly high-functioning--while his language has

never

> previously been age-level appropriate, he could clearly make his

needs known-he was

> always about 3-4 years behind his peers in testing.

>

> We have just finished round 38. There has been an explosion of

language in

> the past several rounds--vocabulary is noticeably increasing, in

fact, he is

> talking up a storm at school. More significantly, his reasoning

abilities are

> taking off. He is arguing with us, pointing out that our " answers "

are

> silly-(that our reasons for something aren't sound--and he's

right!) We are seeing

> abstract thinking skills for the first time ever--talking about

time travel,

> how if we could travel to the future we could change things

happening now, .

>

> His writing ability at school--always labored, never spontaneous--

has also

> taken off. His caseworker is sending home a poem (a POEM??!!) that

my son has

> written, which, she said, is hugely abstract and introspective. It

was lengthy

> and completely done independently.

>

> There is no question in my mind--nor the school's--that these gains

aren't

> happening " developmentally. " His class teacher and his caseworker

know about

> the chelation and have said, " keep it going! " Our biggest

challenges are, as

> he becomes more and more social, keeping him from insisting on

being part of

> the 'popular " group of boys (i.e., the " cool " kids who have

absolutely no

> patience for my son and are blatantly mean to him and who also have

fun at his

> expense). The school is very aware of this and are trying to get

him to understand

> the concept of what a friend really is and to stay clear of those

who do not

> have his best interests at heart. The school is also taking a hard

> anti-bullying stance and has hit on this many times this year with

my son's entire 5th

> grade class. It's a tough task for a school, especially when so

much bullying

> is displayed and reinforced as acceptable by parents and siblings.

My son

> does, fortunately, have several good friends at school but he keeps

gravitating

> towards these mean-spirited, popular kids, especially at recess and

during

> lunch. However, this truly is our biggest focus of concern that

probably wouldn't

> be occurring at all were it not for his tremendous gains in

language.

>

> Anyway, these gains became more evident once we started doing

chelation every

> weekend. Before that, we did 3 on 11 off. It seemed he would make

mild

> gains, then lose them between rounds. Now we are seeing more

consistency--more

> sustained gains and less regression.

>

> So hang in there those of you who feel that chelation is

progressing too

> slowly or not at all. I truly feel in my heart, that this is such

an important

> piece, along with anti-viral issues and all of the other

interventions and

> therapies we need to constantly try, reexamine, and try again. I

have no doubt

> that we will hit more lulls, where improvement won't be obvious,

but my son's

> success will continue to motivate us to keep going.

>

> By the way, my son's most recent speech testing actually found him

in the

> average range in a couple of areas for the first time ever. He

also made a 10

> point gain on his nonverbal i.q. testing from 3 years ago.

>

> So to the IOM, FDA, and every other government agency/medical

expert that

> discredits chelation as an effective treatment for autism:

>

> (BIG GIANT DISGUSTING RASPBERRY SOUND EMITTING FROM MY MOUTH).

>

> So there.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If the CDC's fraud by intentional data dilution AND the AAP's collusion

and the IOM's collusion were brought to court, perhaps a few of the

injurious MDs and injurious PhDs who are sustaining the fraud would have

their degrees negated and their medical privileges suspended.

andrewhallcutler wrote:

>>Let's not get carried away. The fact that a therapy works does not

>>preclude its being proscribed by CDC-funded servants within the IOM. In

>>our loyalty to Higher Authorities, we are supposed to take the IOM's

>>anti-chelation words as Gospel, and to do so humbly, obediently, and

>>without a hint of doubt regarding the sanctity of the CDC, IOM, and AAP.

>>As we're learning when scientific fraud (aka deliberate dilution of

>>data) is enacted by the CDC on behalf of Vaccine Religiosity (eg,

>>Verstraeten et al 2003), then that fraud is politely acceptable.

>>

>>

>

>I see has a mature undestanding of what institutions and

>government are all about.

>

>

>

>>Just kidding!!! Congratulations, even as we must somehow have the ACIP,

>>CDC, IOM, and AAP fraud-artists and collusionists removed from their

>>positions so that they quit harming infants and toddlers!

>>

>>

>

>The easiest way to do this is going to be to destroy the positions

>rather than pry the people out of them.

>

>E. g. insist to your legislators that the federal deficit is so high

>that the IOM and CDC need to have their budgets reduced to zero and

>kept there.

>

>The AAP needs to get sued a lot so it gets bankrupted.

>

>Andy . .. . . . . . . . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Dear

>

> I thank you from the bottom of my heart

> for giving hope

> my son is 3 years old, ASD

> we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

> but not chelation yet

Chelation is a lot easier than any of these and is more likely to help.

> our DAN! doctor wants us to

pay him a lot of money to

> test for yeast, etc

unnecessarily

> first

> I just can't hardly wait!

So don't. DMSA and ALA are over the counter nutritional supplements.

> I want my child back!

>

> thank you and to your family

> for keeping my hopes afloat

>

> Jzin

> California

[Guest guest]

> Dear

>

> I thank you from the bottom of my heart

> for giving hope

> my son is 3 years old, ASD

> we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

> but not chelation yet

> our DAN! doctor wants us to test for yeast, etc first

> I just can't hardly wait!

> I want my child back!

>

> thank you and to your family

> for keeping my hopes afloat

>

> Jzin

> California

Dear Jzin,

You can read some other additional uplifting hopeful

reports here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/LOVE_LETTERS.html

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

---

,

Could you please email me privately at barbinlr@... thanks, barb

In , Momlaw@a... wrote:

> My son is 11, and fairly high-functioning--while his language has

never

> previously been age-level appropriate, he could clearly make his

needs known-he was

> always about 3-4 years behind his peers in testing.

>

> We have just finished round 38. There has been an explosion of

language in

> the past several rounds--vocabulary is noticeably increasing, in

fact, he is

> talking up a storm at school. More significantly, his reasoning

abilities are

> taking off. He is arguing with us, pointing out that our " answers "

are

> silly-(that our reasons for something aren't sound--and he's

right!) We are seeing

> abstract thinking skills for the first time ever--talking about

time travel,

> how if we could travel to the future we could change things

happening now, .

>

> His writing ability at school--always labored, never spontaneous--

has also

> taken off. His caseworker is sending home a poem (a POEM??!!) that

my son has

> written, which, she said, is hugely abstract and introspective. It

was lengthy

> and completely done independently.

>

> There is no question in my mind--nor the school's--that these gains

aren't

> happening " developmentally. " His class teacher and his caseworker

know about

> the chelation and have said, " keep it going! " Our biggest

challenges are, as

> he becomes more and more social, keeping him from insisting on

being part of

> the 'popular " group of boys (i.e., the " cool " kids who have

absolutely no

> patience for my son and are blatantly mean to him and who also have

fun at his

> expense). The school is very aware of this and are trying to get

him to understand

> the concept of what a friend really is and to stay clear of those

who do not

> have his best interests at heart. The school is also taking a hard

> anti-bullying stance and has hit on this many times this year with

my son's entire 5th

> grade class. It's a tough task for a school, especially when so

much bullying

> is displayed and reinforced as acceptable by parents and siblings.

My son

> does, fortunately, have several good friends at school but he keeps

gravitating

> towards these mean-spirited, popular kids, especially at recess and

during

> lunch. However, this truly is our biggest focus of concern that

probably wouldn't

> be occurring at all were it not for his tremendous gains in

language.

>

> Anyway, these gains became more evident once we started doing

chelation every

> weekend. Before that, we did 3 on 11 off. It seemed he would make

mild

> gains, then lose them between rounds. Now we are seeing more

consistency--more

> sustained gains and less regression.

>

> So hang in there those of you who feel that chelation is

progressing too

> slowly or not at all. I truly feel in my heart, that this is such

an important

> piece, along with anti-viral issues and all of the other

interventions and

> therapies we need to constantly try, reexamine, and try again. I

have no doubt

> that we will hit more lulls, where improvement won't be obvious,

but my son's

> success will continue to motivate us to keep going.

>

> By the way, my son's most recent speech testing actually found him

in the

> average range in a couple of areas for the first time ever. He

also made a 10

> point gain on his nonverbal i.q. testing from 3 years ago.

>

> So to the IOM, FDA, and every other government agency/medical

expert that

> discredits chelation as an effective treatment for autism:

>

> (BIG GIANT DISGUSTING RASPBERRY SOUND EMITTING FROM MY MOUTH).

>

> So there.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chelation seems really expensive. Does anyone have a suggestion for the

most direct route and required test. I have 3 guys I want to start chelating.

Pam

At 11:37 PM 5/26/2004 +0000, you wrote:

> > Dear

> >

> > I thank you from the bottom of my heart

> > for giving hope

> > my son is 3 years old, ASD

> > we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

> > but not chelation yet

>

>Chelation is a lot easier than any of these and is more likely to help.

>

> > our DAN! doctor wants us to

>

>pay him a lot of money to

>

> > test for yeast, etc

>

>unnecessarily

>

> > first

> > I just can't hardly wait!

>

>So don't. DMSA and ALA are over the counter nutritional supplements.

>

> > I want my child back!

> >

> > thank you and to your family

> > for keeping my hopes afloat

> >

> > Jzin

> > California

>

>

>

>

>=======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

> Chelation seems really expensive. Does anyone have a suggestion

for the

> most direct route and required test. I have 3 guys I want to

start chelating.

> Pam

The expensive parts are:

1. dental work (if amalgam replacements are needed)

2. doctor appointments (prices vary obviously)

3. lab tests

Somewhere in " the middle " are:

4. supplements--- can be quite expensive, prices vary

depending on what you are using.

5. DMPS

Pretty inexpensive are:

6. DMSA

7. ALA

8. books

9. timing devices (kitchen timer, alarm clock)

10. record keeping, observation, reading lists, etc.

Chelation CAN be expensive, and it CAN be pretty darned cheap.

It all depends on how you do it. The dental work part is

very very expensive, but mostly the kids don't need it (don't

have amalgam fillings). So, if you feel okay about minimal

doctor visits and lab tests, you can limit the " expensive

parts " . On the other hand, it is also okay to spend a lot

of money on whatever practitioner you feel best with, if

that is within your financial resources.

I personally spent about:

$4000 on dental work (1/2 paid by insurance)

$0 on doctors -- although lots on the acupuncturist (who

I saw throughout chelation as well as before and after--

I still see her, now, years later)

$250 on lab tests

$150 on ALA for 1.5 years of chelation

$100 on books

$30 on timers

Those are all estimates, could be off a bit. Not sure how

much on supplements and don't think I could estimate.

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Dana can certainly tell you about the costs of chelating more than

one child, but I can tell you that I spend about $75 a month for DMPS

and ALA. BTW...DMPS is quite a bit more expensive than DMSA, to use

DMSA + ALA would probably be $15 a month or so for us. (we split and

re-load capsules) Additional supplements to support him during

chelation probably run not more than $15-20 a month, limited only by

the cost of probiotics, which for us are very expensive (my son's gut

is severely damaged and we use a lot of probiotics). We do a lot of

additional supplements, but to use Andy's protocol alone would

probably set us back less than $30 a month for our son if we used

DMSA; ALA alone would be even cheaper. This is just a guess; it may

cost you more or less depending on your child's situation and good

sales on supps! If you use Andy's low and slow protocol, he does not

necessarily recommend periodic testing, which is where the real cost

lies. In any event, I'd start with a hair test, which aren't too

expensive. Good Luck! Kim

> > > Dear

> > >

> > > I thank you from the bottom of my heart

> > > for giving hope

> > > my son is 3 years old, ASD

> > > we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

> > > but not chelation yet

> >

> >Chelation is a lot easier than any of these and is more likely to

help.

> >

> > > our DAN! doctor wants us to

> >

> >pay him a lot of money to

> >

> > > test for yeast, etc

> >

> >unnecessarily

> >

> > > first

> > > I just can't hardly wait!

> >

> >So don't. DMSA and ALA are over the counter nutritional

supplements.

> >

> > > I want my child back!

> > >

> > > thank you and to your family

> > > for keeping my hopes afloat

> > >

> > > Jzin

> > > California

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >=======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

Andy, I believe DMSA is available by perscription only. Am I wrong?

Where can I buy some?

> > Dear

> >

> > I thank you from the bottom of my heart

> > for giving hope

> > my son is 3 years old, ASD

> > we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA

> > but not chelation yet

>

> Chelation is a lot easier than any of these and is more likely to

help.

>

> > our DAN! doctor wants us to

>

> pay him a lot of money to

>

> > test for yeast, etc

>

> unnecessarily

>

> > first

> > I just can't hardly wait!

>

> So don't. DMSA and ALA are over the counter nutritional

supplements.

>

> > I want my child back!

> >

> > thank you and to your family

> > for keeping my hopes afloat

> >

> > Jzin

> > California

[Guest guest]

You can buy it as Thorne's Captomer. It is really 100 mg's of dmsa

though they sell it as " succinic acid " or something. Here is one

link and you can froogle.com to find others

http://store./spinelife/captomer.html

W

> Andy, I believe DMSA is available by perscription only. Am I wrong?

> Where can I buy some?

>

[Guest guest]

You can also get it from VRP.com

S

From: bisser [mailto: bisser@...]

Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:26:36 -0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Incredible language gains with chelation

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Andy, I believe DMSA is available by perscription only. Am I wrong? <BR>

Where can I buy some?<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

> > Dear <BR>

> > <BR>

> > I thank you from the bottom of my heart <BR>

> > for giving hope<BR>

> > my son is 3 years old, ASD<BR>

> > we are doing SCD, GFCF diets, biomedical, OT, ABA<BR>

> > but not chelation yet<BR>

> <BR>

> Chelation is a lot easier than any of these and is more likely to <BR>

help.<BR>

> <BR>

> > our DAN! doctor wants us to <BR>

> <BR>

> pay him a lot of money to <BR>

> <BR>

> > test for yeast, etc <BR>

> <BR>

> unnecessarily<BR>

> <BR>

> > first<BR>

> > I just can't hardly wait!<BR>

> <BR>

> So don't.  DMSA and ALA are over the counter nutritional <BR>

supplements.<BR>

> <BR>

> > I want my child back!<BR>

> > <BR>

> > thank you and to your family<BR>

> > for keeping my hopes afloat<BR>

> > <BR>

> > Jzin<BR>

> > California<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

> Chelation seems really expensive. Does anyone have a suggestion for

the

> most direct route and required test. I have 3 guys I want to start

chelating.

I have chelated/am chelating four kids. See my next message " low

budget recommendations " for my ideas.

Dana

[Guest guest]

10 years old

[Guest guest]

How old was your son when you started chelating??