Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 I got this at Christmas party thursday eve. Aggie Xmas-(abbreviation for Christmas) The Greek letter C, c (pronounced "chi" and looks like the Roman letter X) was a popular abbreviation of the name Christ for the early persecuted Christians, X or "chi" is the first letter of Christ when written in Greek and also resembled the cross. Xmas appeared in use by early Christians. It would not be prounounced Ex-mass, but Christmas. Also common was Xian, abbreviation for Christian. Now most Christians (justified or not) unfamiliar with the Greek reference see it as being disrespectful and an attempt to "X" Christ out of Christmas, which sometimes now is just that.__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Interesting Aggie. I never know that. Thanks for sharing. You learn something new and interesting everyday in this life. I just though XMAS was the lazy way or writing Christmas. I didn't know the X really had a meaning. Xmas I got this at Christmas party thursday eve. Aggie Xmas-(abbreviation for Christmas) The Greek letter C, c (pronounced "chi" and looks like the Roman letter X) was a popular abbreviation of the name Christ for the early persecuted Christians, X or "chi" is the first letter of Christ when written in Greek and also resembled the cross. Xmas appeared in use by early Christians. It would not be prounounced Ex-mass, but Christmas. Also common was Xian, abbreviation for Christian. Now most Christians (justified or not) unfamiliar with the Greek reference see it as being disrespectful and an attempt to "X" Christ out of Christmas, which sometimes now is just that. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 , That's what having alot of years behind you gains, knowledge (of course all the other b.s. too) The good news there is even when they think they are not honoring Christ, They Are!! Did you also lnow that most of the Mother Goose tales are about corrupt England. Back in that time the "commomers" couldn't say anything bad about the royals, so Ms. Goose ( a real person) wrote alot of these satires making fun at the upper crust. "Ring around the Rosey" is about the balck plague, etc. After she wrote them she came to America where they REALLY became popular. I love the stories behind the story. Are you familiar with the 12 Days of Christmas story? Aggie__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 <in a Jim Carey from Ace Ventura voice> REEAAALLLYYYYY! Something else I have learned today that I did notknow! LOL! Not familiar with the 12 Days of Christmas either. I know the song but not the meaning! Re: Xmas , That's what having alot of years behind you gains, knowledge (of course all the other b.s. too) The good news there is even when they think they are not honoring Christ, They Are!! Did you also lnow that most of the Mother Goose tales are about corrupt England. Back in that time the "commomers" couldn't say anything bad about the royals, so Ms. Goose ( a real person) wrote alot of these satires making fun at the upper crust. "Ring around the Rosey" is about the balck plague, etc. After she wrote them she came to America where they REALLY became popular. I love the stories behind the story. Are you familiar with the 12 Days of Christmas story? Aggie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 <in a Jim Carey from Ace Ventura voice> REEAAALLLYYYYY! Something else I have learned today that I did notknow! LOL! Not familiar with the 12 Days of Christmas either. I know the song but not the meaning! Re: Xmas , That's what having alot of years behind you gains, knowledge (of course all the other b.s. too) The good news there is even when they think they are not honoring Christ, They Are!! Did you also lnow that most of the Mother Goose tales are about corrupt England. Back in that time the "commomers" couldn't say anything bad about the royals, so Ms. Goose ( a real person) wrote alot of these satires making fun at the upper crust. "Ring around the Rosey" is about the balck plague, etc. After she wrote them she came to America where they REALLY became popular. I love the stories behind the story. Are you familiar with the 12 Days of Christmas story? Aggie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Well sit back and let Grammy tell you a story..... Twelve Days of Christmas-The Western churches' date for Jesus' birth was Dec. 25Th, the Eastern churches' date was Jan. 6Th. and in the late 4Th century they adopted one another's dates. Christmas now started with Dec. 25Th and ended with Epiphany Jan. 6Th, thus giving 12 days of Christmas. The Twelve Days of Christmas Song-no one seems to know who wrote what seems to be a nonsensical song, but legend has it as being written during the period of time when Roman Catholics in England were not allowed to practice their faith without punishment (which would explain why not one credits themselves for penning it), the song was to help children to remember the tenets of their faith. Many consider this another urban legend though, mainly because everything in the song goes along with both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And that it seems to have a French not an English origin. The true love was God Himself, The me was any baptized person. The partridge in a pear tree was Christ and may of referred to Matt. 23:37 and Luke13:34 The two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. The 3 French Hens stood for faith, hope and love. 1Cor.13The Theological Virtues The 4 calling birds were the 4 gospels of , Mark, and Mark. The 4 Evangelists. The 5 golden rings recalled the Torah or law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. the Law or Pentateuch. The 6 geese a laying were the 6 days of creation. The 7 swans a swimming were the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, (! Cor. 7:30)The 7 Sacraments The 8 maids a milking were the eight Beatitudes. (Matt. 5-6) The 9 ladies dancing were the 9 truths of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5) The 10 Lords a leaping were the 10 commandments. The 11 pipers piping were the 11 faithful apostles. The 12 drummers drumming symbolized the 12 pints of belief in the Apostles Creed. Note: In the original version the first 5 gifts were all birds: 1st-Partridge 2ND-2 turtle doves 3rd-3 french hens 4Th-2 Colly birds Blackbirds not "Calling" birds 4Th-5 Golden rings (referred to ring-necked pheasants not jewelry. I don't want you to think I just "know" all this, it was written down. Aggie__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I was just about to ask you Aggie if you typed that all from memory! LOL! Thanks for sharing. Once again I learned something new and VERY intersting today. I enjoyed reading this! Thanks! ! ! GEORGE Re: Xmas > >Well sit back and let Grammy tell you a story..... > > Twelve Days of Christmas-The Western churches' date for Jesus' birth was Dec. 25Th, the Eastern churches' date was Jan. 6Th. and in the late 4Th century they adopted one another's dates. Christmas now started with Dec. 25Th and ended with Epiphany Jan. 6Th, thus giving 12 days of Christmas. > > The Twelve Days of Christmas Song-no one seems to know who wrote what seems to be a nonsensical song, but legend has it as being written during the period of time when Roman Catholics in England were not allowed to practice their faith without punishment (which would explain why not one credits themselves for penning it), the song was to help children to remember the tenets of their faith. Many consider this another urban legend though, mainly because everything in the song goes along with both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And that it seems to have a French not an English origin. > > The true love was God Himself, > The me was any baptized person. > The partridge in a pear tree was Christ and may of referred to Matt. 23:37 and Luke13:34 > The two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. > The 3 French Hens stood for faith, hope and love. 1Cor.13The Theological Virtues > The 4 calling birds were the 4 gospels of , Mark, and Mark. The 4 Evangelists. > The 5 golden rings recalled the Torah or law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. the Law or Pentateuch. > The 6 geese a laying were the 6 days of creation. > The 7 swans a swimming were the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, (! Cor. 7:30)The 7 Sacraments > The 8 maids a milking were the eight Beatitudes. (Matt. 5-6) > The 9 ladies dancing were the 9 truths of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5) > The 10 Lords a leaping were the 10 commandments. > The 11 pipers piping were the 11 faithful apostles. > The 12 drummers drumming symbolized the 12 pints of belief in the Apostles Creed. > Note: In the original version the first 5 gifts were all birds: > > 1st-Partridge > 2ND-2 turtle doves > 3rd-3 french hens > 4Th-2 Colly birds Blackbirds not " Calling " birds > 4Th-5 Golden rings (referred to ring-necked pheasants not jewelry. > > I don't want you to think I just " know " all this, it was written down. > > Aggie > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 .....and now for the "rest of the story" on the 12 days of christmas: http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/12days.asp They've got variations on the legends here - pretty darn interesting Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: mmoris@... From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of aggie shulerSent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:03 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: Re: Xmas Well sit back and let Grammy tell you a story..... Twelve Days of Christmas-The Western churches' date for Jesus' birth was Dec. 25Th, the Eastern churches' date was Jan. 6Th. and in the late 4Th century they adopted one another's dates. Christmas now started with Dec. 25Th and ended with Epiphany Jan. 6Th, thus giving 12 days of Christmas. The Twelve Days of Christmas Song-no one seems to know who wrote what seems to be a nonsensical song, but legend has it as being written during the period of time when Roman Catholics in England were not allowed to practice their faith without punishment (which would explain why not one credits themselves for penning it), the song was to help children to remember the tenets of their faith. Many consider this another urban legend though, mainly because everything in the song goes along with both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And that it seems to have a French not an English origin. The true love was God Himself, The me was any baptized person. The partridge in a pear tree was Christ and may of referred to Matt. 23:37 and Luke13:34 The two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. The 3 French Hens stood for faith, hope and love. 1Cor.13The Theological Virtues The 4 calling birds were the 4 gospels of , Mark, and Mark. The 4 Evangelists. The 5 golden rings recalled the Torah or law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. the Law or Pentateuch. The 6 geese a laying were the 6 days of creation. The 7 swans a swimming were the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, (! Cor. 7:30)The 7 Sacraments The 8 maids a milking were the eight Beatitudes. (Matt. 5-6) The 9 ladies dancing were the 9 truths of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5) The 10 Lords a leaping were the 10 commandments. The 11 pipers piping were the 11 faithful apostles. The 12 drummers drumming symbolized the 12 pints of belief in the Apostles Creed. Note: In the original version the first 5 gifts were all birds: 1st-Partridge 2ND-2 turtle doves 3rd-3 french hens 4Th-2 Colly birds Blackbirds not "Calling" birds 4Th-5 Golden rings (referred to ring-necked pheasants not jewelry. I don't want you to think I just "know" all this, it was written down. Aggie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 .....and now for the "rest of the story" on the 12 days of christmas: http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/12days.asp They've got variations on the legends here - pretty darn interesting Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: mmoris@... From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of aggie shulerSent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:03 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: Re: Xmas Well sit back and let Grammy tell you a story..... Twelve Days of Christmas-The Western churches' date for Jesus' birth was Dec. 25Th, the Eastern churches' date was Jan. 6Th. and in the late 4Th century they adopted one another's dates. Christmas now started with Dec. 25Th and ended with Epiphany Jan. 6Th, thus giving 12 days of Christmas. The Twelve Days of Christmas Song-no one seems to know who wrote what seems to be a nonsensical song, but legend has it as being written during the period of time when Roman Catholics in England were not allowed to practice their faith without punishment (which would explain why not one credits themselves for penning it), the song was to help children to remember the tenets of their faith. Many consider this another urban legend though, mainly because everything in the song goes along with both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And that it seems to have a French not an English origin. The true love was God Himself, The me was any baptized person. The partridge in a pear tree was Christ and may of referred to Matt. 23:37 and Luke13:34 The two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. The 3 French Hens stood for faith, hope and love. 1Cor.13The Theological Virtues The 4 calling birds were the 4 gospels of , Mark, and Mark. The 4 Evangelists. The 5 golden rings recalled the Torah or law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. the Law or Pentateuch. The 6 geese a laying were the 6 days of creation. The 7 swans a swimming were the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, (! Cor. 7:30)The 7 Sacraments The 8 maids a milking were the eight Beatitudes. (Matt. 5-6) The 9 ladies dancing were the 9 truths of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5) The 10 Lords a leaping were the 10 commandments. The 11 pipers piping were the 11 faithful apostles. The 12 drummers drumming symbolized the 12 pints of belief in the Apostles Creed. Note: In the original version the first 5 gifts were all birds: 1st-Partridge 2ND-2 turtle doves 3rd-3 french hens 4Th-2 Colly birds Blackbirds not "Calling" birds 4Th-5 Golden rings (referred to ring-necked pheasants not jewelry. I don't want you to think I just "know" all this, it was written down. Aggie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 .....and now for the "rest of the story" on the 12 days of christmas: http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/12days.asp They've got variations on the legends here - pretty darn interesting Melody Moris, Leader TOPS #Tx1454, Pleasanton http://www.texastops.org email: mmoris@... From: TexasTOPS [mailto:TexasTOPS ] On Behalf Of aggie shulerSent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:03 PMTo: TexasTOPS Subject: Re: Xmas Well sit back and let Grammy tell you a story..... Twelve Days of Christmas-The Western churches' date for Jesus' birth was Dec. 25Th, the Eastern churches' date was Jan. 6Th. and in the late 4Th century they adopted one another's dates. Christmas now started with Dec. 25Th and ended with Epiphany Jan. 6Th, thus giving 12 days of Christmas. The Twelve Days of Christmas Song-no one seems to know who wrote what seems to be a nonsensical song, but legend has it as being written during the period of time when Roman Catholics in England were not allowed to practice their faith without punishment (which would explain why not one credits themselves for penning it), the song was to help children to remember the tenets of their faith. Many consider this another urban legend though, mainly because everything in the song goes along with both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church doctrine. And that it seems to have a French not an English origin. The true love was God Himself, The me was any baptized person. The partridge in a pear tree was Christ and may of referred to Matt. 23:37 and Luke13:34 The two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. The 3 French Hens stood for faith, hope and love. 1Cor.13The Theological Virtues The 4 calling birds were the 4 gospels of , Mark, and Mark. The 4 Evangelists. The 5 golden rings recalled the Torah or law: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. the Law or Pentateuch. The 6 geese a laying were the 6 days of creation. The 7 swans a swimming were the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit, (! Cor. 7:30)The 7 Sacraments The 8 maids a milking were the eight Beatitudes. (Matt. 5-6) The 9 ladies dancing were the 9 truths of the Holy Spirit. (Gal. 5) The 10 Lords a leaping were the 10 commandments. The 11 pipers piping were the 11 faithful apostles. The 12 drummers drumming symbolized the 12 pints of belief in the Apostles Creed. Note: In the original version the first 5 gifts were all birds: 1st-Partridge 2ND-2 turtle doves 3rd-3 french hens 4Th-2 Colly birds Blackbirds not "Calling" birds 4Th-5 Golden rings (referred to ring-necked pheasants not jewelry. I don't want you to think I just "know" all this, it was written down. Aggie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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