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My answer has 2 parts:

1) About 45 minutes -- one whole " period " of his day. He's a sophomore in

high school, so quite a bit older.

2) We never had TOD services in kindergartner, but he did in 4th grade.

At that point he started with 30 minutes and the TOD said that was not

enough time given his age. By the end of the half hour, they were just getting

into things. The school only wanted to pay for a half hour a day, so the

school's compromise was to have her come for an hour 3 times a week (M/W/F).

We got

that upped to the 5-days-a-week that the kid actually needed.

I don't know specifically what the TOD would work on at the

Kindergarten level, but I am sure that it will not involve helping with essays,

organizing book reports or other things that are common for the 4th grade age

group.

Perhaps that 30 minutes a day would have been a good solution for a

younger child.

I know that the parents of Kindergartners will chime in here ... Best -- Jill

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Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a TOD,

but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your help.

Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mom to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Syndrome, Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia,

Bronchomalacia, Subglottic Stenosis, Chonal Stenosis,

FTT,GERD, G-tube & Nissan, Strabismus, Profound hearing loss,

CI implanted 8/19/04. Activated 9/7/04

Sierra's story: www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids18/sierra.htm

www.Caringbridge.org/oh/sierra

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Hi..

My son is in Kindergarden main stream..and he receives 60 minutes a day pull

out..with his HI...which they consider to be a TOD.

~Cathy~

-- TOD question

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a

TOD, but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your

help. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mom to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Syndrome, Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia,

Bronchomalacia, Subglottic Stenosis, Chonal Stenosis,

FTT,GERD, G-tube & Nissan, Strabismus, Profound hearing loss,

CI implanted 8/19/04. Activated 9/7/04

Sierra's story: www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids18/sierra.htm

www.Caringbridge.org/oh/sierra

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My two newly-turned three year old girls just started their hearing impaired

preschool this past week. They get pretty intense training 5 days/week, to

prepare them for mainstreaming at Kindergarten level. Your post caught my eye,

as I suspect my girls (who have mild/mod SNHL and are at age-level or even above

in some aspects) will be fairly advanced when they get released to the local

school. What is your son's teacher doing to combat boredom in your son, since

he is so 'caught-up'?

Edith

Re: TOD question

My son is in his first year of mainstream school (first grade) and at our

TEAM meeting my school district TOLD me how much time he would get with the

TOD. He gets 30 minutes 2x/week. Part of the reason, I'm guessing, is that

he started the school year already having pretty much completed the first

grade curriculum. He was in a special class the previous four years, and

they really stressed getting these kids ahead academically, so they are in

better shape when they get into the mainstream. At any rate, I'm not sure

this is an accurate representation of what a HOH child SHOULD be getting.

Stefanie

Mom to Ben, 7, severe/profound HOH, and Isabella, 10, mild loss

on 3/6/06 4:56 PM, 4-harts@... at 4-harts@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

> TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a

TOD,

> but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your

help.

> Take care and God Bless.

> Natasha~Mom to~

> (8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

> *Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

> Syndrome, Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia,

> Bronchomalacia, Subglottic Stenosis, Chonal Stenosis,

> FTT,GERD, G-tube & Nissan, Strabismus, Profound hearing loss,

> CI implanted 8/19/04. Activated 9/7/04

> Sierra's story: www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

> www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids18/sierra.htm

> www.Caringbridge.org/oh/sierra

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Hi, Edith,

She gives him " challenge " work: she'll give him an additional math sheet,

she'll ask him to go the next step in making a pattern, he'll do three

problems instead of the one the other kids are asked to do. She also has him

being pulled out once a week to work on math with the math specialist.

There's not a whole lot else she can do; she not only has 20 other kids to

teach, but then there are a slew of kids who aren't reading well yet, and

kids who need more math help, it's not really fair to have her spend time

enriching my son. So far, he seems ok with it, and still likes going to

school, and they ARE learning new things that he hasn't covered before, so

that's good. My bigger concern is what he'll do once the learning catches up

with him, or he gets to the higher grades where the learning is more

complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to coasting, that having to work at

it will really drag him down.

At home, he has done things like teach himself chess, and he'll read books

on almost any subject that interests him, so I'm hoping that will help in

the long run.

I have another friend whose daughter has a moderate loss and is

exceptionally bright. She just missed the cutoff for school, so was an older

kindergardener, and way ahead of the pack. She, too, has done fine so far,

but she's also only in first grade. I guess time will tell.

Stefanie

on 3/6/06 5:50 PM, Edith Tarter at etarter@... wrote:

> ,

> My two newly-turned three year old girls just started their hearing impaired

> preschool this past week. They get pretty intense training 5 days/week, to

> prepare them for mainstreaming at Kindergarten level. Your post caught my

> eye, as I suspect my girls (who have mild/mod SNHL and are at age-level or

> even above in some aspects) will be fairly advanced when they get released to

> the local school. What is your son's teacher doing to combat boredom in your

> son, since he is so 'caught-up'?

> Edith

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When was in kindergarten she got 30 minutes 3 times a week with her HI.

When we moved to first grade I wanted to up the minutes and they wanted to keep

it the same. They ended up increasing her minutes in January.

was in an all day kindergarten class with 16 kids. Her kindergarten

teacher was fantastic. How I wish that I could duplicate her for

remaining school years. I think that because of her we were able to keep the

minutes to 90 a week. This year, is in a class of 26 kids and it's a

little overwhelming for the teacher, let alone making sure that is

" grasping " everything. That's why we increased the minutes.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

4-harts@... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a TOD,

but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your help.

Take care and God Bless.

Natasha

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When was in kindergarten she got 30 minutes 3 times a week with her HI.

When we moved to first grade I wanted to up the minutes and they wanted to keep

it the same. They ended up increasing her minutes in January.

was in an all day kindergarten class with 16 kids. Her kindergarten

teacher was fantastic. How I wish that I could duplicate her for

remaining school years. I think that because of her we were able to keep the

minutes to 90 a week. This year, is in a class of 26 kids and it's a

little overwhelming for the teacher, let alone making sure that is

" grasping " everything. That's why we increased the minutes.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

4-harts@... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a TOD,

but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your help.

Take care and God Bless.

Natasha

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and ask why not. G.B Shaw

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When was in kindergarten she got 30 minutes 3 times a week with her HI.

When we moved to first grade I wanted to up the minutes and they wanted to keep

it the same. They ended up increasing her minutes in January.

was in an all day kindergarten class with 16 kids. Her kindergarten

teacher was fantastic. How I wish that I could duplicate her for

remaining school years. I think that because of her we were able to keep the

minutes to 90 a week. This year, is in a class of 26 kids and it's a

little overwhelming for the teacher, let alone making sure that is

" grasping " everything. That's why we increased the minutes.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

4-harts@... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we are requesting a TOD,

but I don't know how much time I should ask for? Thanks for all your help.

Take care and God Bless.

Natasha

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and ask why not. G.B Shaw

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Stefanie Cloutier wrote: My bigger concern is what

he'll do once the learning catches up with him, or he gets to the higher grades

where the learning is more complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to coasting,

that having to work at

it will really drag him down.

Stefanie,

I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things that has run into

this year. She was far ahead of her classmates last year, but this year she's

right where she needs to be. She skated through last year and really didn't

need to try hard. She has learned that this year she actually needs to work at

school. She is still very capable of doing the work and getting the answers, it

jsut that she doesn't want to try.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Stefanie Cloutier wrote: My bigger concern is what

he'll do once the learning catches up with him, or he gets to the higher grades

where the learning is more complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to coasting,

that having to work at

it will really drag him down.

Stefanie,

I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things that has run into

this year. She was far ahead of her classmates last year, but this year she's

right where she needs to be. She skated through last year and really didn't

need to try hard. She has learned that this year she actually needs to work at

school. She is still very capable of doing the work and getting the answers, it

jsut that she doesn't want to try.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Debbie, that really does concern me. It's one reason I hesitated holding him

back a year: he did a year of K in his HI class, then a transitional K year

where he spent mornings with the regular class and afternoons with his HI

class (we only have half-day K). His birthday is five days before the

cutoff, and the director of his HI program didn't feel he would be totally

ready for first grade, so we did the half-and-half year. I really think part

of it is she likes to get " her " kids as prepared academically as possible,

so she can send them into the mainstream way ahead of their peers. I'm just

hoping it doesn't backfire...

Stefanie

on 3/6/06 10:38 PM, Deb DiAnni at babydewe2@... wrote:

>

>

> Stefanie Cloutier wrote: My bigger concern is what

> he'll do once the learning catches up with him, or he gets to the higher

> grades where the learning is more complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to

> coasting, that having to work at

> it will really drag him down.

>

>

>

> Stefanie,

> I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things that has run into

> this year. She was far ahead of her classmates last year, but this year she's

> right where she needs to be. She skated through last year and really didn't

> need to try hard. She has learned that this year she actually needs to work

> at school. She is still very capable of doing the work and getting the

> answers, it jsut that she doesn't want to try.

>

> Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Debbie, that really does concern me. It's one reason I hesitated holding him

back a year: he did a year of K in his HI class, then a transitional K year

where he spent mornings with the regular class and afternoons with his HI

class (we only have half-day K). His birthday is five days before the

cutoff, and the director of his HI program didn't feel he would be totally

ready for first grade, so we did the half-and-half year. I really think part

of it is she likes to get " her " kids as prepared academically as possible,

so she can send them into the mainstream way ahead of their peers. I'm just

hoping it doesn't backfire...

Stefanie

on 3/6/06 10:38 PM, Deb DiAnni at babydewe2@... wrote:

>

>

> Stefanie Cloutier wrote: My bigger concern is what

> he'll do once the learning catches up with him, or he gets to the higher

> grades where the learning is more complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to

> coasting, that having to work at

> it will really drag him down.

>

>

>

> Stefanie,

> I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things that has run into

> this year. She was far ahead of her classmates last year, but this year she's

> right where she needs to be. She skated through last year and really didn't

> need to try hard. She has learned that this year she actually needs to work

> at school. She is still very capable of doing the work and getting the

> answers, it jsut that she doesn't want to try.

>

> Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Debbie, that really does concern me. It's one reason I hesitated holding him

back a year: he did a year of K in his HI class, then a transitional K year

where he spent mornings with the regular class and afternoons with his HI

class (we only have half-day K). His birthday is five days before the

cutoff, and the director of his HI program didn't feel he would be totally

ready for first grade, so we did the half-and-half year. I really think part

of it is she likes to get " her " kids as prepared academically as possible,

so she can send them into the mainstream way ahead of their peers. I'm just

hoping it doesn't backfire...

Stefanie

on 3/6/06 10:38 PM, Deb DiAnni at babydewe2@... wrote:

>

>

> Stefanie Cloutier wrote: My bigger concern is what

> he'll do once the learning catches up with him, or he gets to the higher

> grades where the learning is more complex. Then I worry he'll be so used to

> coasting, that having to work at

> it will really drag him down.

>

>

>

> Stefanie,

> I'm pretty sure that this is one of the things that has run into

> this year. She was far ahead of her classmates last year, but this year she's

> right where she needs to be. She skated through last year and really didn't

> need to try hard. She has learned that this year she actually needs to work

> at school. She is still very capable of doing the work and getting the

> answers, it jsut that she doesn't want to try.

>

> Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

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Hi Natasha,

is in kindergarten now and she has an hour daily TOD

services. They are all in the classroom, no pullout. She's working

on lip reading (I know most HI kids aren't like this, but she can't

lip read.) and social skills. Academically, she's very strong so

right now pull out is not necessary.

Before she entered kindergarten, I had contacted one of the TODs

in the area and she told me that around her an hour daily is standard

when the child enters school.

Cheryl mom to sarah - 5, severe SNHL and 3 hearing

>

> Hi everyone,

> Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week

with their TOD? Sierra will be in kindergarten in the fall, and we

are requesting a TOD, but I don't know how much time I should ask for?

Thanks for all your help. Take care and God Bless.

> Natasha~Mom to~

> (8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

> *Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

> Syndrome, Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia,

> Bronchomalacia, Subglottic Stenosis, Chonal Stenosis,

> FTT,GERD, G-tube & Nissan, Strabismus, Profound hearing loss,

> CI implanted 8/19/04. Activated 9/7/04

> Sierra's story: www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

> www.tracheostomy.com/trachkids/kids18/sierra.htm

> www.Caringbridge.org/oh/sierra

>

>

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I would have never thought to ask this, but I am so glad it was

brought up.

Aidan (4) currently gets 1 hour a week. He is still at home with

me...we pulled him out of preschool this year after a biting incident

where he was not even asked what happened. He had no voice. I know

my HI is not thrilled with me doing that, but I think one-on-one we

are doing well.

How does how much you get for Kindergarten compare to what you have

prior to Kindergarten? I guess I am wondering if I need to do some

pre-K fluffing while I still can. I really think he needs more HI

time.

Mom of Zoe (12), Noah (8) UC,PSC,osteopenia L1-4, Aidan (4) Moderate

SNHL bilaterally

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We had the same time allotment in preschool as we did in kindergarten. It's

jsut now that she's in first grade that the time needed to be increased.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

mariapamom wrote:

How does how much you get for Kindergarten compare to what you have prior to

Kindergarten? I guess I am wondering if I need to do some pre-K fluffing while

I still can. I really think he needs more HI

time.

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We had the same time allotment in preschool as we did in kindergarten. It's

jsut now that she's in first grade that the time needed to be increased.

Debbie, mom to , 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

mariapamom wrote:

How does how much you get for Kindergarten compare to what you have prior to

Kindergarten? I guess I am wondering if I need to do some pre-K fluffing while

I still can. I really think he needs more HI

time.

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<<Hi everyone,

Just wanted to ask everyone how much time their child gets a week with their

TOD? >>

It can vary greatly! Neal gets consultation weekly. No individual work with

the TOD. The consultation is useless too. The TOD has no experience with

cochlear implants or sensory integration, which are Neal's main issues. So

really he might as well not have a TOD at all. Still, he's doing fine (by fine

I mean well above average) in class. It just depends on the kid.

Rhonda Savage

Mom to Audrey, 8, hearing; and Neal, 6, CII at 2.9 years

" Hard does not mean impossible. "

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