Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 In a message dated 12/1/2004 6:53:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, betty_flager@... writes: > Do you think I should tell him what I am doing? Would I be in > trouble in anyway? > > i would tell the doc. what's he gonna do...tell you that you shouldn't do something to make you feel better? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 In a message dated 12/1/2004 7:46:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, artisticgroom@... writes: > In this instance you are more likely to get Armour by telling them the > truth so they know why your TSH looks suppressed yes...this is what I was going to say. i totally agree with on this issue. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 It is perfectly legal to buy a 3 month supply of prescription medication from out of this country (USA). I have told several doctors, but I have always had jerks for doctors that refused to give me Armour as I am " already taking too much. " If you do not tell them, they will probably say your thyroid is fine as your tests will show in THEIR normal range, whether you feel normal there or not. If you are going to bother with going to one, I say they need to know. That's why I don;t bother going anymore! Hahahahahaha *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 > It is perfectly legal to buy a 3 month supply of prescription medication from out of this country (USA). I have told several doctors, but I have always had jerks for doctors that refused to give me Armour as I am " already taking too much. " If you do not tell them, they will probably say your thyroid is fine as your tests will show in THEIR normal range, whether you feel normal there or not. If you are going to bother with going to one, I say they need to know. That's why I don;t bother going anymore! Hahahahahaha > *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV > Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ > > > Oh thanks. I was starting to sweat over if it is legal or not. So I will just tell my doctor everything. Do you think he would care about how I feel? HA HA HA Never did before. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 >>May have to go off of it for a couple of weeks. << HMMM then what's the point of testing? LOL *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 I have, but I have a very rare doctor. I told her I did earlier in the year and I felt better, but I stopped because I was worried if something happened there would be no one to back me up. I ended up going to an endo who put me on 25 mcg of Synthroid. I saw my PCP 2 weeks later and told her I still felt like crap and felt like the endo was just trying to shut me up and move me out the door... she agreed. She then asked me about the Armour again... she didn't know anything about it. I had some information sent to her and she told me and go ahead and do what I would do with self-medicating (since I still had some meds), and she would do her best to get up to speed and work with me. I can't tell you what a rare find this doc is. She diagnosed me with fibro and chronic fatigue last year and that was " confirmed " by a rheumatologist and physical therapists. The funny thing is I feel better on the Armour... less brain fog, less aching, less pain..... still can't sleep, but I'm hoping when I'm at optimal dosage it will work out better. The only thing I can suggest is to make sure that you really know what your relationship with your doctor is. Hugs, Tigger Re: Has anyone told the doctor your self medicating? Cindi, I have thought of telling my Dr, but then i thought about when i would have my labs done, and from what ive learned here,is that Dr's go by different ranges(lower)then what most people feel good on.So wouldnt the Dr want to lower dosage?Then that would just be a big waste of time,because the dr wouldnt probbaly give u the dosage you want anyways ,and the ranges would always be high,if the patient went by how they feel, and not by what the Dr wants?So am i missing something here,cause id like to tell my Dr.? nc2406@... wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2004 6:53:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, betty_flager@... writes: > Do you think I should tell him what I am doing? Would I be in > trouble in anyway? > > i would tell the doc. what's he gonna do...tell you that you shouldn't do something to make you feel better? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 The law of averages says the doctor won;t give you a prescription for enough Armour to feel good on no matter what you do or don;t tell them! LOL That is sad but ask any of use that have been to umpteen doctors! I have been to over 30 for this disease and it's various symptoms, and the only doctors that would even give me Armour were ones I insisted on it from. These doctors I lied and said my last doctor in Timbuktoo gave me this and I want to stay on this as I FEEL good, and I would tell them I was on about a grain more than I actually was... That way if they gave me a script for it I would have enough extra to actually go up if I needed to. The most any doctor ever gave me was 4.5 grains a day... I am now up to 6 grains a day PLUS Cytomel. I would kiss any doctor's feet if they would actually give me a script for this without a constant hassle. *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Well I had the advantage of actually moving a;; over the country while I was doing this so it really wasn;t so far from the truth! I went from NY to CA to AZ to NY to CA to TX to NY, PA then CA, GA and now WV.. but that's over a period of 37 years but to track my medical records... Oh my, I don't think it could be done! *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Fat cat? Diabetes? Listowner for overweight or hypothyroid cats http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypokitties/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I would think that some doctors would not want to be liable for someone that selfmedicating. I sure do believe in selfmedicating. How many doctors are not just going to go by lab numbers? How many are going to listen to you when you tell them your symptoms? Hell, I will just get my bloodtests with my doctors orders. If there is any questions, then I will tell him. My doc is 40 miles away. I just call him to fax the orders to my local hospital. The last time I saw him(well his FNP). I had the skipping heartbeats, high blood pressure, edema, hair falling out. Do you think he gave me a prescription for anything? Hell no. When I got my tsh,ft3,ft4 checked at the hospital the last time it cost $391.00. What a rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I would think that some doctors would not want to be liable for someone that selfmedicating. I sure do believe in selfmedicating. How many doctors are not just going to go by lab numbers? How many are going to listen to you when you tell them your symptoms? Hell, I will just get my bloodtests with my doctors orders. If there is any questions, then I will tell him. My doc is 40 miles away. I just call him to fax the orders to my local hospital. The last time I saw him(well his FNP). I had the skipping heartbeats, high blood pressure, edema, hair falling out. Do you think he gave me a prescription for anything? Hell no. When I got my tsh,ft3,ft4 checked at the hospital the last time it cost $391.00. What a rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I would think that some doctors would not want to be liable for someone that selfmedicating. I sure do believe in selfmedicating. How many doctors are not just going to go by lab numbers? How many are going to listen to you when you tell them your symptoms? Hell, I will just get my bloodtests with my doctors orders. If there is any questions, then I will tell him. My doc is 40 miles away. I just call him to fax the orders to my local hospital. The last time I saw him(well his FNP). I had the skipping heartbeats, high blood pressure, edema, hair falling out. Do you think he gave me a prescription for anything? Hell no. When I got my tsh,ft3,ft4 checked at the hospital the last time it cost $391.00. What a rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Hi Tigger, Do you get the Armour without a prescription somewhere? I seen where you can get Nature-Thyroid without a prescription. Is it basically the same as Armour? Thanks! Tressie Re: Has anyone told the doctor your self medicating? I have, but I have a very rare doctor. I told her I did earlier in the year and I felt better, but I stopped because I was worried if something happened there would be no one to back me up. I ended up going to an endo who put me on 25 mcg of Synthroid. I saw my PCP 2 weeks later and told her I still felt like crap and felt like the endo was just trying to shut me up and move me out the door... she agreed. She then asked me about the Armour again... she didn't know anything about it. I had some information sent to her and she told me and go ahead and do what I would do with self-medicating (since I still had some meds), and she would do her best to get up to speed and work with me. I can't tell you what a rare find this doc is. She diagnosed me with fibro and chronic fatigue last year and that was " confirmed " by a rheumatologist and physical therapists. The funny thing is I feel better on the Armour... less brain fog, less aching, less pain..... still can't sleep, but I'm hoping when I'm at optimal dosage it will work out better. The only thing I can suggest is to make sure that you really know what your relationship with your doctor is. Hugs, Tigger Re: Has anyone told the doctor your self medicating? Cindi, I have thought of telling my Dr, but then i thought about when i would have my labs done, and from what ive learned here,is that Dr's go by different ranges(lower)then what most people feel good on.So wouldnt the Dr want to lower dosage?Then that would just be a big waste of time,because the dr wouldnt probbaly give u the dosage you want anyways ,and the ranges would always be high,if the patient went by how they feel, and not by what the Dr wants?So am i missing something here,cause id like to tell my Dr.? nc2406@... wrote: In a message dated 12/1/2004 6:53:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, betty_flager@... writes: > Do you think I should tell him what I am doing? Would I be in > trouble in anyway? > > i would tell the doc. what's he gonna do...tell you that you shouldn't do something to make you feel better? cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 > > > I asked my last Dr about this and he told me that ,they would have > > to release that person for fear of liability.I havent told my new Dr > > anything,but im kinda running into prob's as she recently told me my > > #'s were to high,and wanted to retest me Dec 1rst.Looks to me like > > im gonna have to find another Dr.or test myself. > > > sabrina > > > > > > Ah oh that does sound like a problem huh? I can't afford to pay for > > my selftesting right now grrr! Pretty soon I will be getting > > insurance to pay for my bloodtesting. > > > > I am afraid if the tsh is 0.00 there will be questions. Since the > > last time the TSH was 0.04 but t4 low. > > > > May have to go off of it for a couple of weeks. I just keep an eye on my body temperature. I am so relieved not to have the skipping heartbeats anymore. That drove me nuts. I just know the doc wouldn't give me any Armour. He would probably give me synthroid YUCK!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 > > When I got my tsh,ft3,ft4 checked at the hospital the last time it > cost $391.00. What a rip off. That costs 44 euros here in France at every lab at the street corner . ne in France http://www.geocities.com/thyroide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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