Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.

February 11, 2009

Suzi...I'm going to call and inquire about this "point system"...How strange a Fed program is different in a different State.

Glad it came through for you...are you settled in someplace good for you???

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.

> Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You referto it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before. Sinceit's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it wewill move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound faraway but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be closeenough so she or the kids could just drop in.> Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the sameagencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!Hey Mama Sher,In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it "pollingthe numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medicaldisability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where Iapplied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady neededmy living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call"involuntary displacement." So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and thenthey "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Otherpoint makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like that.Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodgefrom Up There when I did apply. Suzi p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!

February 11, 2009

Sher

It's different city by city too dependent on availability and requests.

The last I knew the Dallas office was no longer even accepting section 8

applications, although that may well have changed now. To their credit,

Dallas did just allocate huge amounts to building new low income

housing.

>

> Suzi...I'm going to call and inquire about this " point system " ...How

strange a Fed program is different in a different State.

> Glad it came through for you...are you settled in someplace good for

you???

> MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.

> Nasturtiums

> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> Re: Currently stable but how do you live

on disability income.

>

> > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You

refer

> to it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before.

Since

> it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.

> > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5

> years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it we

> will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound far

> away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be

close

> enough so she or the kids could just drop in.

> > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the same

> agencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.

> >

> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.

> > Nasturtiums

> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> Hey Mama Sher,

>

> In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it

" polling

> the numbers " here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medical

> disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where I

> applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady needed

> my living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call

> " involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and then

> they " polled the numbers " and Voila I finally became eligible. Other

> point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like

that.

> Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodge

> from Up There when I did apply. Suzi

>

> p.s. love your " don't fret " tag line!

>

February 11, 2009

Hi Bruce, Still got my fingers crossed you can make the trip.... Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida, IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." SherIt's different city by city too dependent on availability and requests.The last I knew the Dallas office was no longer even accepting section 8applications, although that may well have changed now. To their credit,Dallas did just allocate huge amounts to building new low incomehousing.>> Suzi...I'm going to call and inquire about this "point system"...Howstrange a Fed program is different in a different State.> Glad it came through for you...are you settled in someplace good foryou???> MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.> Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!>> Re: Currently stable but how do you liveon disability income.>>> > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. Yourefer> to it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before.Since> it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5> years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it we> will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound far> away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to beclose> enough so she or the kids could just drop in.> > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the same> agencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.> >> >> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.> > Nasturtiums> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!>> Hey Mama Sher,>> In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it"polling> the numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medical> disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where I> applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady needed> my living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call> "involuntary displacement." So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and then> they "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Other> point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things likethat.> Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodge> from Up There when I did apply. Suzi>> p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!>

February 11, 2009

Bruce...it's always music to my ears when I hear of low income housing receiving $$ !

Here in our area (Ptld metroplex) low income housing is so badly needed.

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do you liveon disability income.>>> > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. Yourefer> to it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before.Since> it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5> years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it we> will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound far> away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to beclose> enough so she or the kids could just drop in.> > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the same> agencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.> >> >> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.> > Nasturtiums> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!>> Hey Mama Sher,>> In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it"polling> the numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medical> disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where I> applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady needed> my living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call> "involuntary displacement." So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and then> they "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Other> point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things likethat.> Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodge> from Up There when I did apply. Suzi>> p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!>

February 11, 2009

Sher

In my local area of Plano, the government owned low income housing isn't

so good. A smaller town generally would have better. New Section 8

vouchers are pretty much unavailable. However, subsidized and income

restricted housing built with HUD money is good in the area. In fact, as

to senior apartment complexes, all the good affordable ones are income

restricted. They are nicer than the complex I live in, have far more

amenities and benefits, and are far cheaper.

It all varies city by city across the country. I've lived in small towns

where the most beautiful apartment complexes in town were government

owned low income and I've lived in large cities where the low income

government owned housing was all unsafe.

> >

> > Suzi...I'm going to call and inquire about this " point

system " ...How

> strange a Fed program is different in a different State.

> > Glad it came through for you...are you settled in someplace good

for

> you???

> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.

> > Nasturtiums

> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

> >

> > Re: Currently stable but how do you

live

> on disability income.

> >

> > > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You

> refer

> > to it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before.

> Since

> > it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.

> > > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5

> > years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it

we

> > will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound

far

> > away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be

> close

> > enough so she or the kids could just drop in.

> > > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the same

> > agencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.

> > >

> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.

> > > Nasturtiums

> > > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

> >

> > Hey Mama Sher,

> >

> > In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it

> " polling

> > the numbers " here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent

medical

> > disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where I

> > applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady

needed

> > my living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call

> > " involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and

then

> > they " polled the numbers " and Voila I finally became eligible.

Other

> > point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like

> that.

> > Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a

noodge

> > from Up There when I did apply. Suzi

> >

> > p.s. love your " don't fret " tag line!

> >

>

February 11, 2009

Bruce... We live in a nice complex...nicer than some that are not subsidized.

There is a complex closer to Lysa that is income restricted...has a pool, hot tub, beautiful landscaping and they take Sec. 8.

We already have our name in there on the waiting list. They call and we say 8 hasn't come through yet. Hell's bells we may wait forever!!

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do youlive> on disability income.> >> >> > > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You> refer> > to it as 'needs based point system'...haven't heard that before.> Since> > it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> > > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5> > years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get itwe> > will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't soundfar> > away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be> close> > enough so she or the kids could just drop in.> > > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the same> > agencies...it's all in what one qualifies for.> > >> > >> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.> > > Nasturtiums> > > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!> >> > Hey Mama Sher,> >> > In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it> "polling> > the numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanentmedical> > disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where I> > applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landladyneeded> > my living area for her son & his girlfriend..what they call> > "involuntary displacement." So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..andthen> > they "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible.Other> > point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like> that.> > Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got anoodge> > from Up There when I did apply. Suzi> >> > p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!> >>

February 11, 2009

Margaret

What kinds of meds are you on with such exhorbitant costs? I guess I'm

confused since you're on medicare. Are you not on Part D? My meds are

high but after you pay $4350 out of pocket medicare Part D covers 95% of

the costs. Are you on some experimental or not yet approved meds they

won't cover?

Guess where my money went...my meds alone are over $70,000 a year.

February 11, 2009

Since I own several HUD Section 8 projects and Rural Development, let me explain "waiting." Assuming an applicant meets the qualifications, which consist mostly of age and income, apartments are allocated on a first come-first saved basis. Because there are more applicants than apartments, the waiting list can be lengthy. This is more so in urban areas where there is a larger population, but less so in smaller cities and towns.

The criteria is that an applicant must be 62 or older or be disabled. To my knowledge there is no income limit; however, the way the rent is determined in itself limits tenants to lower income. Rent is determined by 30% of your annual adjusted income. If an applicant has money in the bank, or invested in stocks, bonds, real estate, etc., the income from these, usually interest earned, is included as part of the applicant's income. In the case of a house or property that is not rented, there is an imputed income, determined by a sophisticated guessing of what income it might earn.

An example for rent determination. I am using small figures to make it easier to follow:

Income

Social Security $14,500

Interest 3,000

$17,500

Adjustments

Medical 2,500

Income $15,000 X 30% = $4,500 annually or $375.00 monthly

This amount covers both rent and utilities. Typically, the tenant pays for his heat and air,unless the project has central heat and air, and his general electrical usage. However, the tenant gets an utility allowance, based on the average usage by unit size. This is determined annually by averaging the usage by unit size

with data provided by the provider. If a tenant's average utility usage is $75.00 a month, that is subtracted

from his rent of $375.00, making his rent $300.00.

Disabled are eligible for admission to an elderly housing project as well as for a family project. If you are applying as disabled, you go on a separate waiting list for those apartments especially equipped and fitted for one with disability.

If you need to go into subsidized housing and the waiting lists in your area are long, I suggest you call smaller communities in your area for asked about their waiting time. This info is public knowledtge and they cannot deny your request.

Rural Development works mostly in rural areas in small towns, while HUD Section 8 is mostly in urban areas butr sometimes in smaller towns.

If you have any questions on these subjects, I will certainly be glad to anser them. If I don't know the answer, I am very creative in making one up.

Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:17:05 AMSubject: Re: Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.

I forgot about the waiting list for section 8 housing.

My aunt was on it for several years before she got in. She was so relieved when she did move -- financially. Plus it was much smaller than her apartment so there was less to take care of.

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

Donate Life

From: Suzi <sropiequet (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM

> Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You referto it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard that before. Sinceit's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it wewill move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound faraway but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be closeenough so she or the kids could just drop in.> Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the sameagencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!Hey Mama Sher,In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it "pollingthe numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent

medicaldisability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where Iapplied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady neededmy living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call"involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and thenthey "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Otherpoint makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like that.Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodgefrom Up There when I did apply. Suzi p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!

February 11, 2009

Hi Jack... ya keepin' those red snakeskin boots shined up? hehee.

I do have a question about Sec. 8...is it the same funding as HUD?

We are in a very nice HUD complex now but waiting for 8 so we MAY be able to get into a bit nicer unit... we have our eyes on one with a pool/hot tub where we used to live but did not know they did 8. We just paid rent then based on 'restricted income'...you know, income based on a low and a high.

Now our circumstances are different as you know.

Thanks...

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM

> Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You referto it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard that before. Sinceit's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it wewill move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound faraway but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be closeenough so she or the kids could just drop in.> Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the sameagencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!Hey Mama Sher,In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it "pollingthe numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medicaldisability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where Iapplied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady neededmy living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call"involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and thenthey "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Otherpoint makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like that.Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodgefrom Up There when I did apply. Suzi p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!

February 11, 2009

Sher

A Section 8 voucher can be used to rent from anyone who will accept it

from an apartment complex to an owner of one rental home.

A HUD property is one built using HUD funding and therefore committing

to certain rental guidelines and allowances. Simplified, its we'll give

you cheap money, if you'll give those who need it cheap apartments. Some

HUD properties accept those above the guidelines and have reduced rates

for those below. Some in this area only accept those with incomes below

the restricted levels. Much of it is in the original contract.

As in Jack's case, in return for HUD money he agreed to provide section

8 housing. Then the rural development is another program. On top of

those there are many local programs.

HUD also has a Neighborhood Stabilization Program which was created

under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 and provides $4

billion in funding. Dallas, for instance, got $7.9 Million from that

program.

HUD just granted $33 million in Texas to help very low income elderly

and disabled. In Plano, this funding goes to a non-profit named Plano

Community Home Sponsor, Inc. and they intend to construct 114 one

bedroom units and 13 two bedroom units.

Jack points out one thing very important. He mentions finding a town or

community with availability. I think this goes further. As much as we

hate to uproot or have places we'd prefer to live, cost of living is a

factor. When I was considering where to live a couple of years ago and

anticipating social security as my only income, I gave that strong

consideration. For instance, I couldn't afford nearly what I have here

in South Florida which I love. Then, I could move a couple of hours from

here to a small town and rent for $200 or more less. In fact, ultimately

it would mean affording a car there versus not affording one here

perhaps. That's why there are cities like Tyler, Texas with active

programs recruiting retirees.

I can't imagine living in New York City or Los Angeles simply on social

security. I lived in rural Mississippi in 1988 or so and had the nicest

two bedroom in town for $325 per month then moved to New York City into

a one bedroom less than half its size for $1875.

>

> From: Suzi sropiequet (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Currently stable but how do

you live on disability income.

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM

>

> > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8.

You refer

> to it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard that

before. Since

> it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.

> > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500

about 2.5

> years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever

get it we

> will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't

sound far

> away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice

to be close

> enough so she or the kids could just drop in.

> > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the

same

> agencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.

> >

> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.

> > Nasturtiums

> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> Hey Mama Sher,

>

> In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it

" polling

> the numbers " here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent

medical

> disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County

(where I

> applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my

landlady needed

> my living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call

> " involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt

Suz..and then

> they " polled the numbers " and Voila I finally became

eligible. Other

> point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things

like that.

> Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a

noodge

> from Up There when I did apply. Suzi

>

> p.s. love your " don't fret " tag line!

>

February 11, 2009

Bruce...aren't rents crazy? And especially for low income/subsidized units.

We stay put here in Canby because it's a small little spot. More of a bedroom community of Ptld.

This was first built as an elderly and/or disabled only. Now...there are no places like this one. There are places but oh, the conditions of most. And now kids have to be allowed in most. Complexes now are called "Family" and includes elderly/disabled and families of course.

So we stay put. We love all the trees around us. All we really need is a downstairs unit. I don't worry about it anymore. For now we're ok.

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how doyou live on disability income.> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM>>> > Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8.You refer> to it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard thatbefore. Since> it's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> > Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500about 2.5> years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we everget it we> will move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn'tsound far> away but with her busy life/kids/business it would be niceto be close> enough so she or the kids could just drop in.> > Seems like those of us who need extra help use about thesame> agencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.> >> >> > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR.> > Nasturtiums> > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!>> Hey Mama Sher,>> In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it"polling> the numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanentmedical> disability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County(where I> applied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to mylandlady needed> my living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call> "involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for AuntSuz..and then> they "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally becameeligible. Other> point makers are being an abused person, etc lovely thingslike that.> Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got anoodge> from Up There when I did apply. Suzi>> p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!>

February 11, 2009

Hello my Sher

You know, I should have worn those boots to meet the New Hampshire boys who probably never saw a pair of cowboy boots. I didn't, though, because I think you should be the first one.

To your question, yes, Section 8 is HUD. Section 8 really is the subsidy part and is usally project based,

i. e., to the housing project itself. Vouchers are issued to qualified individuals and are usually distributed through the municipality. The tenant can then go to any landlord who has agreed to accept vouchers.

More frequently, these are to individual owners who may have anywhere from two to whatever rentals.

Section 8 works better because the bulk of the rental income comes from HUD directly to the owner.

The tenant pays his portion directly to the owner, which usually is a small percentage of the overall rent.

Each tenant's share varies with his income.

As a landlord, I wouldn't get involved with vouchers. Too much work and too little protection.

As far as I know, all HUD projects are Section 8 based, whether they were developed by individuals, corporations or municipalities. They all operate under the same regulations.

By the way, the regulations for managing a Section 8 project take up 600 double-sided pages. Needless to say, I know only a fraction. If it weren't for the two brilliant ladies who work for me, I'd be in deep

doo-doo.

I don't understand under what regulations your are residing in a HUD complex that doesn't have

Section 8. What is its classification.

Tell Earl I admire him for keeping you out of trouble.

Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:45:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.

Hi Jack... ya keepin' those red snakeskin boots shined up? hehee.

I do have a question about Sec. 8...is it the same funding as HUD?

We are in a very nice HUD complex now but waiting for 8 so we MAY be able to get into a bit nicer unit... we have our eyes on one with a pool/hot tub where we used to live but did not know they did 8. We just paid rent then based on 'restricted income'...you know, income based on a low and a high.

Now our circumstances are different as you know.

Thanks...

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM

> Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You referto it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard that before. Sinceit's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it wewill move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound faraway but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be closeenough so she or the kids could just drop in.> Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the sameagencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!Hey Mama Sher,In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it "pollingthe numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent

medicaldisability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where Iapplied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady neededmy living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call"involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and thenthey "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Otherpoint makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like that.Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodgefrom Up There when I did apply. Suzi p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!

February 11, 2009

Jack...our complex is both HUD and Sec. 8. We are on the waiting list for our voucher for 8 so we can move closer to our daughter, Lysa. We do need her help and 35 miles away is just a bit far for her to be dropping in every day or so. When our voucher comes in, we will move closer to her AND downstairs!

Do you think the vouchers are a good thing for renters, since you would not get involved as a landlord?

I was reading on the board this morning that in IL Sec. 8 is run by a "point system"...never heard that. Wish that were the case here...it would benefit us for sure.

Oh, Jack, you just broke my heart. You got your women mixed up! Earl and Lou go together. I go with Rich while I wait for you...heheee. ;>)

MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Currently stable but how do you live on disability income.To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 10:34 PM

> Aunt Suz...we are in the process of waiting for Section 8. You referto it as 'needs based point system'...haven' t heard that before. Sinceit's a Fed Program I thought it would be consistent.> Here, it's just when our name comes up... We were 1500 about 2.5years ago and this year we're up to about 1000. If we ever get it wewill move closer to our daughter (35 miles away). Doesn't sound faraway but with her busy life/kids/business it would be nice to be closeenough so she or the kids could just drop in.> Seems like those of us who need extra help use about the sameagencies...it' s all in what one qualifies for.> > > MamaSher, age 70. IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!Hey Mama Sher,In IL, you apply, and wait..and wait..and wait. They call it "pollingthe numbers" here. You get 10 points if you're on permanent medicaldisability, 15 points if you're a resident of Lake County (where Iapplied and live), and THEN I had to move, due to my landlady neededmy living area for her son & his girlfriend.. what they call"involuntary displacement. " So 15 more points for Aunt Suz..and thenthey "polled the numbers" and Voila I finally became eligible. Otherpoint makers are being an abused person, etc lovely things like that.Good thing I applied several years ago...I felt like I got a noodgefrom Up There when I did apply. Suzi p.s. love your "don't fret" tag line!

February 11, 2009

Oh, yes, section 8 is good for renters. It's just that you lack the protections of HUD. You are dealing one on one with a landlord who may be good or not. Go for Section 8, but inquire in the community, including the town office and the person who doles out the vouchers, about the landlord.

Yes I get the husbands mixed up, a life-long problem for me. I need to be more careful now since I can't run as fast nor as far as I used to. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

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