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I too get problems with my back, that are related to my hip injury

and my physio says its because of the way I walk to compensate for

the pain. She also said if I didn't want to injure my back more and

have lots of problems in the future, then I should walk with a stick

to avoid limping. I'm not comfortable with it yet and often get a

feeling that I'm putting it on, its hard to explain, it feels like

I'm trying to create attention for my self but I'm not as far as I

am aware.

(Does anyone else feel arkward with their stick.)

On the possitive side it does get me a good seat on public transport.

I helps me herd the kids and stops my back hurting so much.

Good luck Pagan,

I hope you feel better soon.(have you tryed hydrotheripy?)

Zoe

> Do any of you out there suffer with back problems when your hips

are

> particularly bad???? I have been suffering with pain that runs

from

> one hip to the other across my lower back for the last three

months.

> as soon as the hip pain gets particularly bad the back pain

starts.

> I have had to give up work now until my resurfacing in may. My GP

> says it may be due to the hip??? I have never suffered before and

it

> is a worry as well as the pain being so awful. Two co codamol

30/500

> don't touch it. HELP

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One of the major symptoms of the OA in my left hip was pain in my lower back.

Actually, I also have a bit of an OA problem in my lower back, but I can tell

you that the nature, frequency, and intensity of that particular pain left along

with the joint pain once I had the resurf. I still experience a lower back ache

when I am very active -- and I'm hoping that resuming chiropractic care will

help with that (I've had very good success w/ chiropractic care all through this

painful ordeal). Anyway, the pain in my hip caused me to lean, compensate, and

otherwise stress those lower back muscles. Pretty much pulled my spine out of

alignment, which exacerbated the pain. I was taking 800 mgs of Ibuprofen 2 X

per day for the pain. Not so good for the ol' liver/kidneys -- but it stopped

the lower back pain. Joyce, (Dr. Gross, LHR, 2/2/04)

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Yes, I certainly did. Have you tried alternative therapies---cranial

osteopathy, Technique, pilates, yoga, acupuncture, etc.?

Different things seem helpful to different persons. The first two were

my life-line and Technique, particularly, helped me to walk

and sit the best way possible pre-op. But of course, sometimes, even

these don't work.

Eleanor

back problems with hips??

Do any of you out there suffer with back problems when your hips are

particularly bad???? I have been suffering with pain that runs from

one hip to the other across my lower back for the last three months.

as soon as the hip pain gets particularly bad the back pain starts.

I have had to give up work now until my resurfacing in may. My GP

says it may be due to the hip??? I have never suffered before and it

is a worry as well as the pain being so awful. Two co codamol 30/500

don't touch it. HELP

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Tomorrow, is 7 weeks since my surgery with Dr. De Smet. Marc, the physical

therapist, said DO NOT give up crutches too early, or else you will have a

permanent limp! Good reason, enough, Zoe, to use that stick till the very end.

Can

maneuver around the house with crutches, however not with terrific form.

However, at least a single crutch or cane is required out of doors. Crutches are

preferred for longer distances.

Rob K. r/BHR De Smet Febb 3rd, 04

> I too get problems with my back, that are related to my hip injury

> and my physio says its because of the way I walk to compensate for

> the pain. She also said if I didn't want to injure my back more and

> have lots of problems in the future, then I should walk with a stick

> to avoid limping. I'm not comfortable with it yet and often get a

> feeling that I'm putting it on, its hard to explain, it feels like

> I'm trying to create attention for my self but I'm not as far as I

> am aware.

> (Does anyone else feel arkward with their stick.)

>

> On the possitive side it does get me a good seat on public transport.

> I helps me herd the kids and stops my back hurting so much.

> Good luck Pagan,

> I hope you feel better soon.(have you tryed hydrotheripy?)

> Zoe

>

>

> >Do any of you out there suffer with back problems when your hips

> are

> >particularly bad???? I have been suffering with pain that runs

> from

> >one hip to the other across my lower back for the last three

> months.

> >as soon as the hip pain gets particularly bad the back pain

> starts.

> >I have had to give up work now until my resurfacing in may. My GP

> >says it may be due to the hip??? I have never suffered before and

> it

> >is a worry as well as the pain being so awful. Two co codamol

> 30/500

> >don't touch it. HELP

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Correction: meant to say... Can maneuver around the house without crutches,

however not with perfect form. (smile...is after midnight)

> Tomorrow, is 7 weeks since my surgery with Dr. De Smet. Marc, the physical

> therapist, said DO NOT give up crutches too early, or else you will have a

> permanent limp! Good reason, enough, Zoe, to use that stick till the very end.

> Can maneuver around the house with crutches, however not with terrific form.

> However, at least a single crutch or cane is required out of doors. Crutches

> are preferred for longer distances.

>

> Rob K. r/BHR De Smet Febb 3rd, 04

>

>

> >> I too get problems with my back, that are related to my hip injury

>> and my physio says its because of the way I walk to compensate for

>> the pain. She also said if I didn't want to injure my back more and

>> have lots of problems in the future, then I should walk with a stick

>> to avoid limping. I'm not comfortable with it yet and often get a

>> feeling that I'm putting it on, its hard to explain, it feels like

>> I'm trying to create attention for my self but I'm not as far as I

>> am aware.

>> (Does anyone else feel arkward with their stick.)

>>

>> On the possitive side it does get me a good seat on public transport.

>> I helps me herd the kids and stops my back hurting so much.

>> Good luck Pagan,

>> I hope you feel better soon.(have you tryed hydrotheripy?)

>> Zoe

>>

>>

>> >Do any of you out there suffer with back problems when your hips

>> are

>> >particularly bad???? I have been suffering with pain that runs

>> from

>> >one hip to the other across my lower back for the last three

>> months.

>> >as soon as the hip pain gets particularly bad the back pain

>> starts.

>> >I have had to give up work now until my resurfacing in may. My GP

>> >says it may be due to the hip??? I have never suffered before and

>> it

>> >is a worry as well as the pain being so awful. Two co codamol

>> 30/500

>> >don't touch it. HELP

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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I had significant back pain caused by (1) the same overuse that wore

out my hips and (2) the unnatural movements of the spine, pelvic area

and legs to compensate for, and minimize the pain I was having pre-

op. These causes were confirmed by chiropractors and orthopedists.

The orthopedists and MDs prescribed pain meds, which gave short-term

relief, but I got more long-term relief from a good chiropractor. I

also tried a couple of flavors of yoga, acupuncture and pilates but

with minimal results. My experience is that, although there are tons

of them out there, there are relatively few good Chiropractors. When

you find a good one, it's a godsend.

In addition to good chiropractic care, the only other thing that has

truly helped my back is an inversion exercise type devise called the

back revolution. Do an internet to find out more. I still use it

for a minute or two twice a day and swear by it.

The good news is that my back pain virtually ended post op. Good

luck.

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I had lower back problems for 30 years, ever since I was pregnant

with my first child. After my son's birth, I lost all the weight, but

my hips were an inch wider. No one told me my hip(s) might be out of

alignment. Over the years I was sent for physiotherapy, ostepathic and

chiropractic treatments, and eventually told I had sciatica. It wasn't

until my hip locked into a limited range of movement that arthritis

was suggested, and at first it didn't even show very much on the

X-Rays, although within six months it was very serious. I had such

terrible back pain I ended up in the emergency room a few times.

Oxycodone worked the best, but it also made me so drowsy I

couldn't do much work, and the strong drugs gave me a reflux problem.

The only thing that helped was consistent exercising, starting with

very mild pelvic tilts, and gradually being able to attend a very

mild, no-impact fitness class. Also, posture training helped somewhat.

The best drugs for keeping the pain down and still allowing me to

function were muscle relaxants (it's called methocarbamol in Canada,

the brand name is Robaxacet, Robaxisal, or Robax Platinum). Here it's

available on drugstore shelves, but in England you need a prescription

for it.

During a really bad twisting fall two years ago, I tore a ligament

in my back. It healed up too tight, and further limited my range of

motion in both hips. I was told I needed surgery, but should get my

hip fixed first. A few weeks after my resurf, I felt something moving

in my back, and I've felt it a few more times, whenever I reach a new

level of mobility through my physio exercises. I think the ligament is

gradually straightening itself out, but I don't know for sure.

I still had some back pain post-op (because I couldn't sleep on

either side for six weeks; too painful, so I had to sleep on my back

with a pillow under the non-operated knee), but at about three months

post-op I suddenly realized that I'd had no back pain for over a

month. Now I'm five months post-op, and I've only had one episode of

back pain, and that was after I was really sick and didn't exercise

for several days, plus I sat too much. After couple of muscle

relaxants and a few exercises, my back was much better the next day.

It had never occurred to me that having my hip resurfaced would

also " cure " most of my back pain, so it was a wonderful added benefit.

However, I'm resigned (but determined!) to exercising almost every day

for the rest of my life, to keep my back and resurfed hip in good

shape, and to fend off the OA in the other hip. Also, I'm trying to

find some part-time work that doesn't involve either a lot of sitting

or a computer, and hopefully allows me to move around frequently.

Hope this information helps.

n

rBHR Oct.03 McMinn

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At 06:13 AM 3/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>What's " Inversion, " in regards to a post about lower back pain??

Hanging upside down, whether from a pole with boots, or an inversion table

(looks like a chaise lounge that forgot a few legs). Or like we used to do

on the monkey bars when we were kids ;-).

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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I have to use a stick now for anything more than about 200yards. I'm

only 34 (35 next week) and work in the health service and I feel a

complete fraud at times - I get sympathy and questions from my

patients who are far worse off than me - they all have severe head

injuries.Today The car park attendant at work told me to park in the

disabled space as the car park was busy and he saw my stick. When I'm

pottering around inside the hospital I try not to use my stick - i

was dreading bumping into the car parking attendant in case he

thought I'd been putting it on outside! Yes it does take time to get

used to having the stick, but my pain and walking are so much better

with it. And yes, I'd started to get low back pain associated with

the way i was walking (one of my not so tactful colleagues calls it

waddling - that hurt, but mainly cos I know its true!) When I walk

more than half a mile I have to resort to my crutches - strangely

that doesn't feel so weird - its somehow more acceptable to see a

young person on crutches - I hate the sympathy that goes with the

stick! At the end of the day if these are the things i have to use to

keep going and not come to a complete standstill waiting for my op

(sometime this summer - NHS waiting list permitting!) then I'm glad

they exist. But i can relate to how you feel.

The other thing that is really helping me at the moment is loads of

swimming and hydrotherapy - i feel i can walk tall the day after

swimming, and I'm certainly leaning less on my stick. Its about the

only exercise i can do so I'm trying to go at least twice a week - 3

on a good week.

Good luck, and keep in touch,

Jen

> > Do any of you out there suffer with back problems when your hips

> are

> > particularly bad???? I have been suffering with pain that runs

> from

> > one hip to the other across my lower back for the last three

> months.

> > as soon as the hip pain gets particularly bad the back pain

> starts.

> > I have had to give up work now until my resurfacing in may. My GP

> > says it may be due to the hip??? I have never suffered before and

> it

> > is a worry as well as the pain being so awful. Two co codamol

> 30/500

> > don't touch it. HELP

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Yes i suffer with lower back pain too, i am waiting for bilateral

resurfacing.

My lower back is also very hollow, lordosis i believe, caused by my

poor walking, my surgeon advised me to get a kneeling chair which i

did but i don't suppose it will really get much better until the

resurfacing. the surgeon also said that nothing will rectify the

curvature.

I am continuing to take msn, glucosamine and fish oil which i know

have helped a little with pain, these were recommended by my surgeon

also... i just wish he could speed his waiting list up.

I hope it helps to know that you are not alone with this back pain

(how caring and sharing we are!0

Good Luck for May

jane - uk

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At 09:29 PM 3/24/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>My lower back is also very hollow, lordosis i believe, caused by my

>poor walking, my surgeon advised me to get a kneeling chair which i

>did but i don't suppose it will really get much better until the

>resurfacing. the surgeon also said that nothing will rectify the

>curvature.

Jane,

My back is still in a very lordotic posture, and will likely never

change. I use a therapy ball as a chair in my office a lot, as I am then

forced to keep good posture. Much cheaper than a kneeling chair too, and

not hard on the knees. My back still gives me problems, but they are

slowly getting better. I'm up to walking 2 miles (2 one mile stretches)

where I was at 1/4 mile at the first of the year. So there is hope!

Cindy

C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01

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This is absolutely right. I've been doing this Hellerwork thing, and although

my back pain still persists, it's definitely getting better as a result of

the stretching and change in walking behavior.

As a result my hip flexibility is improving because it's been restricted by

the back pain.

Des Tuck

In a message dated 3/25/2004 10:08:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,

jjg@... writes:

Here is what I found would happen: The hip would hurt and I'd reflexively

try to take some of the load off of it. After a bit, the back and other

muscles would be completely overtaxed and, like any good muscles, start

screaming bloody murder. Don't underestimate this, since even walking a

little way ginky translates into possibly hundreds* of repititions on

muscles in a way they aren't designed to handle.

Treat this like some weird conditioning system: If you were to try learning

to walk on your hands, you'd bloody well try a couple of steps,

rest/stretch then repeat until you get your endurance up. Treat your back

the same way.

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Thanks ,

I have only just rejoined the group after having my resurf 21 months

ago. I suffered tightness/soreness in my hip flexors pre surgery and

still do now. That's why I rejoined the group and searched the

archive. My problem like yours seems to be back related and I'll have

a go at the tennis ball thing to get the SI joint right.

Rohan

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