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Hello all,

I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read the lines of

love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was newly diagnosed.

The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some similar

experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo. I am okay most of

the time but still break down for absolutely no reason, none that is apparent

anyway.

I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people. That's why I

brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink issue. I feel like I am on

the fringe too. It is frustrating to get very little feedback when I bring up

what health is. If anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be

living a purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain

a level of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the group.

Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical pool still exists

within our bodies possibly because we didn't change anything? I want to help

everybody but not many seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because

I care so much and don't know any of you.

Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer maintenance for the

psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come across some tips because I

have such emotional days, crying on the freeway and in school or the store.

Maybe it's partially because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best

but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a

stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but

it was similar in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting chemo. Now

I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I

like to help where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am far from done

with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up I am going and then I am

down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What do I do now besides juicing, coffee

enemas, organic foods, herbs, exercise...??

I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on the east coast

and I would have to attend their meetings, not possible. I am still surprised

it is so hard to find people like me in this situation. It's not just an age

difference at all it's more a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health

hippies in Cali may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me!

Anyway, I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

Lots of Love,

a

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a,

I too have struggled with not finding another person with the same situation or

dx and felt

alone and felt that I must be bad off if I can't find another just like me.

But, I have learned

from all the different people bits and pieces and put it together for myself. I

am 34 with

E-/P-, Her2++, DCIS, Invasive ductal, Grade 3, Comedo with necrosis, 6.4 cm

tumor, Mast

with tram reconstruction, 14/22 nodes positive, just finished AC starting taxol

with

herceptin. I also have 2 young children 2 & 4, both of which I nursed. I

considered myself

healthy, ate organic, excersised, fed my kids organic food, maybe could have

done more

yoga, but needless to say I was devastated that I was diagnosed with such an

aggressive

and invasive tumor.

I too wish I could hear more about diet and other alternatives that work, but I

think overall

the medical field doesn't know much, so you have to do what you know is best for

yourself. I havn't been able to do much lately, the AC chemo really kicked my

ass, but I do

know that I have to start real soon because it will reduce my chances of it

coming back.

Sorry that I'm jumping around, but I want you to know that I value your input

and that it is

a good thing that we are all different because I beleive that it shows that

science has been

able to be specific and that we are all have a great things to contribute.

Quick story, my family and friends have all come together to make meals for me

and my

family. Most people didn't know what organic food was nor where to buy it, so I

believe

that my cancer has helped other on how to be healthy and that we do have choices

on

where to buy our food.

I hope this helps and I look forward to hearing from you.

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a,

Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for us. I have

used visualization and relaxation tapes while going through treatment and still

listen to one every night when we go to bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want them is there

something organic possibly that would help?

Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me to listen to my

body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

BreastCancerStories.com

http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

Check out my other ornaments at

www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

Lots of info and gifts at:

www.cancerclub.com

from K

Hello all,

I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read the lines of

love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was newly diagnosed.

The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some similar

experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo. I am okay most of

the time but still break down for absolutely no reason, none that is apparent

anyway.

I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people. That's why I

brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink issue. I feel like I am on

the fringe too. It is frustrating to get very little feedback when I bring up

what health is. If anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be

living a purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain

a level of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the group. Does

no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical pool still exists within

our bodies possibly because we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody

but not many seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer maintenance for the

psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come across some tips because I have

such emotional days, crying on the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe

it's partially because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but

wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and took

what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job

and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was

similar in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues and

many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm

in this group and it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to

help where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some feedback

from people. I have already gone

through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am far from done

with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up I am going and then I am

down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What do I do now besides juicing, coffee

enemas, organic foods, herbs, exercise...??

I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on the east coast

and I would have to attend their meetings, not possible. I am still surprised it

is so hard to find people like me in this situation. It's not just an age

difference at all it's more a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health

hippies in Cali may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me!

Anyway, I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

Lots of Love,

a

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a,

Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for us. I have

used visualization and relaxation tapes while going through treatment and still

listen to one every night when we go to bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want them is there

something organic possibly that would help?

Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me to listen to my

body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

BreastCancerStories.com

http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

Check out my other ornaments at

www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

Lots of info and gifts at:

www.cancerclub.com

from K

Hello all,

I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read the lines of

love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was newly diagnosed.

The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some similar

experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo. I am okay most of

the time but still break down for absolutely no reason, none that is apparent

anyway.

I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people. That's why I

brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink issue. I feel like I am on

the fringe too. It is frustrating to get very little feedback when I bring up

what health is. If anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be

living a purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain

a level of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the group. Does

no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical pool still exists within

our bodies possibly because we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody

but not many seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer maintenance for the

psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come across some tips because I have

such emotional days, crying on the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe

it's partially because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but

wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and took

what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job

and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was

similar in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues and

many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm

in this group and it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to

help where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some feedback

from people. I have already gone

through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am far from done

with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up I am going and then I am

down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What do I do now besides juicing, coffee

enemas, organic foods, herbs, exercise...??

I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on the east coast

and I would have to attend their meetings, not possible. I am still surprised it

is so hard to find people like me in this situation. It's not just an age

difference at all it's more a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health

hippies in Cali may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me!

Anyway, I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

Lots of Love,

a

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a,

Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for us. I have

used visualization and relaxation tapes while going through treatment and still

listen to one every night when we go to bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want them is there

something organic possibly that would help?

Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me to listen to my

body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

BreastCancerStories.com

http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

Check out my other ornaments at

www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

Lots of info and gifts at:

www.cancerclub.com

from K

Hello all,

I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read the lines of

love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was newly diagnosed.

The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some similar

experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo. I am okay most of

the time but still break down for absolutely no reason, none that is apparent

anyway.

I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people. That's why I

brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink issue. I feel like I am on

the fringe too. It is frustrating to get very little feedback when I bring up

what health is. If anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be

living a purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain

a level of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the group. Does

no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical pool still exists within

our bodies possibly because we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody

but not many seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer maintenance for the

psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come across some tips because I have

such emotional days, crying on the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe

it's partially because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but

wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and took

what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job

and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was

similar in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues and

many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm

in this group and it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to

help where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some feedback

from people. I have already gone

through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am far from done

with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up I am going and then I am

down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What do I do now besides juicing, coffee

enemas, organic foods, herbs, exercise...??

I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on the east coast

and I would have to attend their meetings, not possible. I am still surprised it

is so hard to find people like me in this situation. It's not just an age

difference at all it's more a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health

hippies in Cali may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me!

Anyway, I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

Lots of Love,

a

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a,

I would be sorry if you decided to this group. Both sad for you

and sorry for us, as a group, because every piece of information

relating to " our " diagnosis is so important. What you have to offer

is something many of us cannot get from friends, family, physicians,

etc. Our shared experiences combine to give us the strength and

support it takes to get through all of this. I, for one, enjoy the

fact that not everyone else in this group is either my age, my same

diagnosis or even better, that even some with similar diagnosis are

on different treatments. To me, the diversity and first hand

experience of a group of B/C survivors is not found many places -

and it took me well into my treatment to find this group. Not

everyone responds to all posts (except nne, bless her heart)

but many of us have found friendships and developed trusting

relationships here that we could not have found elsewhere. I'd hate

for you to miss out on that. I don't have to agree with the advise

that I ask for, but am so grateful to get it - down to earth answers

to some very hard questions.

I have never visualized you as anyone other than " a member of this

sisterhood " and I would be disappointed if you should choose to not

offer your opinions and continue to ask for help.

Hugs,

Ellen

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

herbs, exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

>

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a,

I would be sorry if you decided to this group. Both sad for you

and sorry for us, as a group, because every piece of information

relating to " our " diagnosis is so important. What you have to offer

is something many of us cannot get from friends, family, physicians,

etc. Our shared experiences combine to give us the strength and

support it takes to get through all of this. I, for one, enjoy the

fact that not everyone else in this group is either my age, my same

diagnosis or even better, that even some with similar diagnosis are

on different treatments. To me, the diversity and first hand

experience of a group of B/C survivors is not found many places -

and it took me well into my treatment to find this group. Not

everyone responds to all posts (except nne, bless her heart)

but many of us have found friendships and developed trusting

relationships here that we could not have found elsewhere. I'd hate

for you to miss out on that. I don't have to agree with the advise

that I ask for, but am so grateful to get it - down to earth answers

to some very hard questions.

I have never visualized you as anyone other than " a member of this

sisterhood " and I would be disappointed if you should choose to not

offer your opinions and continue to ask for help.

Hugs,

Ellen

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

herbs, exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

>

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a,

I would be sorry if you decided to this group. Both sad for you

and sorry for us, as a group, because every piece of information

relating to " our " diagnosis is so important. What you have to offer

is something many of us cannot get from friends, family, physicians,

etc. Our shared experiences combine to give us the strength and

support it takes to get through all of this. I, for one, enjoy the

fact that not everyone else in this group is either my age, my same

diagnosis or even better, that even some with similar diagnosis are

on different treatments. To me, the diversity and first hand

experience of a group of B/C survivors is not found many places -

and it took me well into my treatment to find this group. Not

everyone responds to all posts (except nne, bless her heart)

but many of us have found friendships and developed trusting

relationships here that we could not have found elsewhere. I'd hate

for you to miss out on that. I don't have to agree with the advise

that I ask for, but am so grateful to get it - down to earth answers

to some very hard questions.

I have never visualized you as anyone other than " a member of this

sisterhood " and I would be disappointed if you should choose to not

offer your opinions and continue to ask for help.

Hugs,

Ellen

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

herbs, exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

>

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> > Hello all,

> > I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

> the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

> newly diagnosed.

> >

> > The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

> similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

> chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

> absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

> >

> > I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

> That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

> issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

> get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

> anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

> purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

> maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

> one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

> people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

> same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

> we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

> seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

> much and don't know any of you.

> >

> > Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

> maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

> come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

> the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

> because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

> recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

> his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

> emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

> Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

> stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

> in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

> and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

> chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

> are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

> some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

> already gone

> > through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

> far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

> up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

> What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

> herbs, exercise...??

> >

> > I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

> the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

> possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

> in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

> a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

> may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

> I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

> >

> > Lots of Love,

> > a

> >

> >

> >

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> > Hello all,

> > I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

> the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

> newly diagnosed.

> >

> > The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

> similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

> chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

> absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

> >

> > I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

> That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

> issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

> get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

> anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

> purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

> maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

> one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

> people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

> same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

> we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

> seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

> much and don't know any of you.

> >

> > Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

> maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

> come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

> the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

> because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

> recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

> his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

> emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

> Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

> stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

> in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

> and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

> chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

> are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

> some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

> already gone

> > through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

> far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

> up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

> What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

> herbs, exercise...??

> >

> > I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

> the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

> possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

> in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

> a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

> may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

> I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

> >

> > Lots of Love,

> > a

> >

> >

> >

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Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

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One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

-

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One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

-

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,

Thank you SO much for your response. I also found a relazing yoga was very

beneficial when I felt like it. Problem was I seldom felt like it. When I had

had energy, I always chose to clean. Women! Thanks again... yoga is so great

and I found baths were so nice as well. K

wrote:

One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

-

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,

Thank you SO much for your response. I also found a relazing yoga was very

beneficial when I felt like it. Problem was I seldom felt like it. When I had

had energy, I always chose to clean. Women! Thanks again... yoga is so great

and I found baths were so nice as well. K

wrote:

One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

-

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,

Thank you SO much for your response. I also found a relazing yoga was very

beneficial when I felt like it. Problem was I seldom felt like it. When I had

had energy, I always chose to clean. Women! Thanks again... yoga is so great

and I found baths were so nice as well. K

wrote:

One thing I found to help relax me was yoga.

I took my first class last week. It was cheap and convenient - part of

the Adult Ed. at my local high school. The instructor is 59 years old,

in great shape, and was teaching a month after a hip replacement!

This was yoga for beginners. It was very low key and mellow, but I felt

like I got alot of it physically and spiritually.

The one problem was we were told to keep our eyes closed as much as

possible to concentrate on the movements and breathing. At the end of

the class when I opened my eyes my contacts were completely dried out!

So next time I'll bring my eyedrops or wear glasses.

-

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Oh Kassy, thank you. I can't explain without complaining how hard it is to find

someone who can relate to me. I live in Socal too but I may as well live on

Jupiter because most people are so out of range by my standards, even for

California. I work at an organic farm now because of all this. I can't stress

how important it is for us to be hyper aware now of each and every thing we put

into our bodies. I like to drink, I love wine, saki, vodka, but now it is like

weight watchers it's like measuring everything, but what's the alternative?

Death? Pain? I feel pretty-very good most every day. I am better than I was

before except for the fatigue. If there's any point I'd like to stress to all

the people out there it is this, How you feel is about what you eat, and

exercise is the other part of that equation. There is no shortcut and the

sooner you accept this the better. The better you eat, the better you feel.

Thanks for listening, K

kplattus wrote:

Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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Oh Kassy, thank you. I can't explain without complaining how hard it is to find

someone who can relate to me. I live in Socal too but I may as well live on

Jupiter because most people are so out of range by my standards, even for

California. I work at an organic farm now because of all this. I can't stress

how important it is for us to be hyper aware now of each and every thing we put

into our bodies. I like to drink, I love wine, saki, vodka, but now it is like

weight watchers it's like measuring everything, but what's the alternative?

Death? Pain? I feel pretty-very good most every day. I am better than I was

before except for the fatigue. If there's any point I'd like to stress to all

the people out there it is this, How you feel is about what you eat, and

exercise is the other part of that equation. There is no shortcut and the

sooner you accept this the better. The better you eat, the better you feel.

Thanks for listening, K

kplattus wrote:

Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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Oh Kassy, thank you. I can't explain without complaining how hard it is to find

someone who can relate to me. I live in Socal too but I may as well live on

Jupiter because most people are so out of range by my standards, even for

California. I work at an organic farm now because of all this. I can't stress

how important it is for us to be hyper aware now of each and every thing we put

into our bodies. I like to drink, I love wine, saki, vodka, but now it is like

weight watchers it's like measuring everything, but what's the alternative?

Death? Pain? I feel pretty-very good most every day. I am better than I was

before except for the fatigue. If there's any point I'd like to stress to all

the people out there it is this, How you feel is about what you eat, and

exercise is the other part of that equation. There is no shortcut and the

sooner you accept this the better. The better you eat, the better you feel.

Thanks for listening, K

kplattus wrote:

Hi a....I live in southern california and im 45 and im an

emotional freeway crier as of late...i have changed drastically what

i eat and my lifestyle...i shop now at the co-op store an organic

place..i need to do whatever i can to elimate all the factors of

reoccurance!!!! Im still learning this organic way they have been

very helpful to me at this store...I dont drink anymore as to that

adds to the possibilty of a come back..immune boosters galore and

most of all making sure i get enough sleep which i surely wasnt

b4...i took my life a bit for granted i think that is the one thing

i have learned to change wake up call for me..didnt sleep...very

stressed out ( much of i could have controlled i think )im always so

very hard on myself i need to give myself a break im trying....slow

process but ill get there..may have setbacks but im not going to

beat myself up anymore....i now exercise in some form daily i am a

bit tired and emotional right now but i still get my butt on the

bike or walk a few miles on the treadmill everyday helps clear the

mind....i see things so different and its hard to get used to this

new way of thinking but i have too give it my best shot as in

regards to things that i can control the rest is up to God...take

care and lots of love back....kassy

>

> a,

> Please don't leave. We all do what we feel is the right thing for

us. I have used visualization and relaxation tapes while going

through treatment and still listen to one every night when we go to

bed. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs.

>

> Have you ased the dr about antidepressants? Or if you don't want

them is there something organic possibly that would help?

>

> Maybe you are expecting your body to do too much. My onc told me

to listen to my body and when I was tired to rest. I will keep you

in my prayers.

> Hugs

> nne

> Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

> http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

> BreastCancerStories.com

> http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

> Angel Feather Loomer

> www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

> Check out my other ornaments at

> www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

> Lots of info and gifts at:

> www.cancerclub.com

> from K

>

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after chemo.

I am okay most of the time but still break down for absolutely no

reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to get

very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If anything,

cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a purer life,

that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to maintain a level

of responsibility from now on should be our number one job. I am

disappointed that this is not reflected back from many people in the

group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the same chemical

pool still exists within our bodies possibly because we didn't

change anything? I want to help everybody but not many seem to care

to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so much and don't

know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to come

across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on the

freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially because my

only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years recently. No one in

my family lives nearby except my dad and he did his best but wasn't

particularly nurturing. I dealt with the emotional stuff alone and

took what I could out on my boyfriend. Poor guy, he is only 28 but

did a stellar job and took it in stride. I wanted to join a group

then and tried but it was similar in that everyone was a lot older

and didn't have fertility issues and many were out a couple of years

or more and I was just starting chemo. Now I'm in this group and

it's the opposite! Most people are newly diagnosed. I like to help

where I can but I would like some help too. Maybe at least some

feedback from people. I have already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm up

I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon. What

do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods, herbs,

exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway, I

still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

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Thank you Anne, it is easy to get discouraged so I appreciate your words of

kindness. I am very active when I feel like it. I have been an athlete my

whole life and feel guilty if I don't do something every day. I agree, it makes

a big difference in how we feel. I respect you for dedicating that much time

every day to exercise. My oldest living great aunt walked 2 miles every day.

Tha'ts not that much if you do it often but it is for a women in her 80's and

well above! That's great. Just think, a walk is so nice, it can be relaxing

because we are breathing the air in a different way, increasing circulation, we

sleep better, we can work thoughts out, it breaks up the monotony...during

chemo I wanted to just sleep and never could. People told me to exercise but it

seemed so impossible, walking up the stairs was a challenge. But they were

right! Walk the block!!!! It helped,when I could manage, I had to force myself

but it helped.

Thank you for your input you have no idea how much this means to me.

a

wrote:

> >

> > Hello all,

> > I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

> the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

> newly diagnosed.

> >

> > The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

> similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

> chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

> absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

> >

> > I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

> That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

> issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

> get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

> anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

> purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

> maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

> one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

> people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

> same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

> we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

> seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

> much and don't know any of you.

> >

> > Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

> maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

> come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

> the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

> because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

> recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

> his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

> emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

> Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

> stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

> in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

> and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

> chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

> are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

> some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

> already gone

> > through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

> far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

> up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

> What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

> herbs, exercise...??

> >

> > I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

> the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

> possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

> in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

> a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

> may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

> I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

> >

> > Lots of Love,

> > a

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you Anne, it is easy to get discouraged so I appreciate your words of

kindness. I am very active when I feel like it. I have been an athlete my

whole life and feel guilty if I don't do something every day. I agree, it makes

a big difference in how we feel. I respect you for dedicating that much time

every day to exercise. My oldest living great aunt walked 2 miles every day.

Tha'ts not that much if you do it often but it is for a women in her 80's and

well above! That's great. Just think, a walk is so nice, it can be relaxing

because we are breathing the air in a different way, increasing circulation, we

sleep better, we can work thoughts out, it breaks up the monotony...during

chemo I wanted to just sleep and never could. People told me to exercise but it

seemed so impossible, walking up the stairs was a challenge. But they were

right! Walk the block!!!! It helped,when I could manage, I had to force myself

but it helped.

Thank you for your input you have no idea how much this means to me.

a

wrote:

> >

> > Hello all,

> > I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

> the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

> newly diagnosed.

> >

> > The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

> similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

> chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

> absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

> >

> > I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

> That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

> issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

> get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

> anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

> purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

> maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

> one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

> people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

> same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

> we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

> seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

> much and don't know any of you.

> >

> > Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

> maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

> come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

> the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

> because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

> recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

> his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

> emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

> Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

> stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

> in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

> and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

> chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

> are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

> some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

> already gone

> > through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

> far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

> up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

> What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

> herbs, exercise...??

> >

> > I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

> the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

> possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

> in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

> a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

> may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

> I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

> >

> > Lots of Love,

> > a

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Ellen, I know you don't speak for everyone but right then it seemed like

you did. I feel better now than I did. This whole thing is hard for all of us.

I read the pain in all the newly diagnosed and a different more seasoned pain in

the recurring. But we are all humans facing the reality that we are mortal. I

appreciate every kindness extended as if it were a personal look-in-the-eye

exchange. It's the little things that aren't so little. Thank You, a

Ellen wrote: a,

I would be sorry if you decided to this group. Both sad for you

and sorry for us, as a group, because every piece of information

relating to " our " diagnosis is so important. What you have to offer

is something many of us cannot get from friends, family, physicians,

etc. Our shared experiences combine to give us the strength and

support it takes to get through all of this. I, for one, enjoy the

fact that not everyone else in this group is either my age, my same

diagnosis or even better, that even some with similar diagnosis are

on different treatments. To me, the diversity and first hand

experience of a group of B/C survivors is not found many places -

and it took me well into my treatment to find this group. Not

everyone responds to all posts (except nne, bless her heart)

but many of us have found friendships and developed trusting

relationships here that we could not have found elsewhere. I'd hate

for you to miss out on that. I don't have to agree with the advise

that I ask for, but am so grateful to get it - down to earth answers

to some very hard questions.

I have never visualized you as anyone other than " a member of this

sisterhood " and I would be disappointed if you should choose to not

offer your opinions and continue to ask for help.

Hugs,

Ellen

>

> Hello all,

> I've really enjoyed reading postings. It's encouraging to read

the lines of love from strangers. I wish I had been here when I was

newly diagnosed.

>

> The reason why I am here now is to get some answers or read some

similar experiences that will help me deal with my life after

chemo. I am okay most of the time but still break down for

absolutely no reason, none that is apparent anyway.

>

> I can't help but feel under represented in this pool of people.

That's why I brought up the men and breast cancer/why only pink

issue. I feel like I am on the fringe too. It is frustrating to

get very little feedback when I bring up what health is. If

anything, cancer is a wake up call to realize we could be living a

purer life, that's not to say we gave it to ourselves, but to

maintain a level of responsibility from now on should be our number

one job. I am disappointed that this is not reflected back from many

people in the group. Does no one believe cancer recurs because the

same chemical pool still exists within our bodies possibly because

we didn't change anything? I want to help everybody but not many

seem to care to listen. This is upsetting to me because I care so

much and don't know any of you.

>

> Another point is that I don't read about any after-cancer

maintenance for the psyche, and spiritual self. I was hoping to

come across some tips because I have such emotional days, crying on

the freeway and in school or the store. Maybe it's partially

because my only caregiver and I broke up after 3 1/2 years

recently. No one in my family lives nearby except my dad and he did

his best but wasn't particularly nurturing. I dealt with the

emotional stuff alone and took what I could out on my boyfriend.

Poor guy, he is only 28 but did a stellar job and took it in

stride. I wanted to join a group then and tried but it was similar

in that everyone was a lot older and didn't have fertility issues

and many were out a couple of years or more and I was just starting

chemo. Now I'm in this group and it's the opposite! Most people

are newly diagnosed. I like to help where I can but I would like

some help too. Maybe at least some feedback from people. I have

already gone

> through all the surgeries, chemo, reconstruction etc. but I am

far from done with this disease. I have so much fatigue, when I'm

up I am going and then I am down and in bed at 2 in the afternoon.

What do I do now besides juicing, coffee enemas, organic foods,

herbs, exercise...??

>

> I tried to find that other group for younger women but it is on

the east coast and I would have to attend their meetings, not

possible. I am still surprised it is so hard to find people like me

in this situation. It's not just an age difference at all it's more

a lifestyle and health difference. Us crazy health hippies in Cali

may seem weird to you lot but it's perfectly normal to me! Anyway,

I still hope we can learn from each other. If not I will go away.

>

> Lots of Love,

> a

>

>

>

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