Re: Re: I'm new and just saying hello!

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Sheri,

Thanks, I'll run this by the ENT on the next vistit. Yes, the hearing loss is

conductive and his tumor was a Cholesteatoma. The doctor has to go back in the

ear in May to see if he got all of the tumor. If he has, we can do the bone

replacement, if not, we go back in 6 months.

Dawn

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Sheri,

Thanks, I'll run this by the ENT on the next vistit. Yes, the hearing loss is

conductive and his tumor was a Cholesteatoma. The doctor has to go back in the

ear in May to see if he got all of the tumor. If he has, we can do the bone

replacement, if not, we go back in 6 months.

Dawn

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[Guest guest]

Sheri,

Thanks, I'll run this by the ENT on the next vistit. Yes, the hearing loss is

conductive and his tumor was a Cholesteatoma. The doctor has to go back in the

ear in May to see if he got all of the tumor. If he has, we can do the bone

replacement, if not, we go back in 6 months.

Dawn

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In a message dated 12/22/2005 7:11:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,

maryemapa@... writes:

Dawn - welcome to the group! It still irks me after 11 years when

anybody says that the use of sign language will delay spoken

language!

I just wanted to share what I've seen in the two years of working as a Deaf

Mentor in early intervention. In some cases, I've gotten a referral when the

child is over the age of two and has had speech therapy for over a year.

After introducing sign for a few weeks, some of the kids have just taken off in

their speech because they are making a visual connection with the sounds

that appear on the lips or what they're hearing. They're making connections

that are meaningful. Some kids just need a more visual means of understanding

before they can make sense of the sounds coming in.

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<< Also, putting the captions on your TV - the closed

captions will get him to start putting the printed

word together with the signed and spoken word. Glad

you found us.>>

This is so true. We've used closed captioning for

years because my husband has a loss that he doesn't

have aided so the captions help him to clarify words

without having the volume up so loud it hurts my ears.

The kids love the captioning.

And Emmett (turning 4 next week), who is learning sign

and is oral, knows how to spell a ton of words now, I

think because of fingerspelling. He started writing

mom about three months ago and has really taken off

with it. We're not pushing him, he's just doing it on

his own.

Learning sign has been just plain fun, too!

johanna

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--- wrote:

<< Also, putting the captions on your TV - the closed

captions will get him to start putting the printed

word together with the signed and spoken word. Glad

you found us.>>

This is so true. We've used closed captioning for

years because my husband has a loss that he doesn't

have aided so the captions help him to clarify words

without having the volume up so loud it hurts my ears.

The kids love the captioning.

And Emmett (turning 4 next week), who is learning sign

and is oral, knows how to spell a ton of words now, I

think because of fingerspelling. He started writing

mom about three months ago and has really taken off

with it. We're not pushing him, he's just doing it on

his own.

Learning sign has been just plain fun, too!

johanna

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--- wrote:

<< Also, putting the captions on your TV - the closed

captions will get him to start putting the printed

word together with the signed and spoken word. Glad

you found us.>>

This is so true. We've used closed captioning for

years because my husband has a loss that he doesn't

have aided so the captions help him to clarify words

without having the volume up so loud it hurts my ears.

The kids love the captioning.

And Emmett (turning 4 next week), who is learning sign

and is oral, knows how to spell a ton of words now, I

think because of fingerspelling. He started writing

mom about three months ago and has really taken off

with it. We're not pushing him, he's just doing it on

his own.

Learning sign has been just plain fun, too!

johanna

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<<snip>> It still irks me after 11 years when

anybody says that the use of sign language will delay spoken

language!

Just to offer another perspective, my daughter is one of those kids who

focused more on the visual language than oral. We tried sign language for a

while, but she is so visually oriented that it interfered with her oral

development. At the same time, however, it was clear through her actions

that she wanted to express herself orally. We dropped all sign, focused on

providing her with rich oral language, and she blossomed. She is very

interested now in other languages and has picked up quite a few words and

expressions in two other languages. I respectfully disagree when people

compare learning sign language as the same as learning a spoken foreign

language. Learning an oral language involves a different set of skills than

learning a visual language. Hadley is exposed to sign language at her

preschool (an integrated room where two of the children are non-verbal due

to other reasons and use some limited sign language). Right now, at age 4,

she can't stand it when the teachers use sign when they speak with her and

has told them it is distracting (her words, not mine). She is a visual kid

who adamantly wants to use her listening and verbal skills to communicate.

I agree with the parent who said that she dropped sign to devote all of her

time and energy to developing her child's spoken language skills. I did the

same. Learning sign as an adult was all consuming and I felt that I was

having to think too much on the sign as opposed to sharing the natural flow

of spoken language (by natural, I mean that the words flowed easily from my

mouth as opposed to the halting sign language coming from a new signer). I

am pleased that my husband and I made this choice to dedicate ourselves to

spoken language for Hadley. This is what worked best for us.

I have noticed quite a few parents posting opinions to the recent newcomers

that they should do sign with their children, regardless of age, hearing

status, or available options. Choosing a communication method is for the

family to decide. Our kids are all different and what works for one family

is not going to work for another. We've all chosen ways that have worked

for our families; lets give these newcomers a chance to review the resources

we have shared with them and make the best decisions for themselves. Our

stories and experiences are valuable to share, but our judgment calls may

just prevent some families from seeking out the solutions that will work

best for them.

Kerry

[Guest guest]

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<<snip>> It still irks me after 11 years when

anybody says that the use of sign language will delay spoken

language!

Just to offer another perspective, my daughter is one of those kids who

focused more on the visual language than oral. We tried sign language for a

while, but she is so visually oriented that it interfered with her oral

development. At the same time, however, it was clear through her actions

that she wanted to express herself orally. We dropped all sign, focused on

providing her with rich oral language, and she blossomed. She is very

interested now in other languages and has picked up quite a few words and

expressions in two other languages. I respectfully disagree when people

compare learning sign language as the same as learning a spoken foreign

language. Learning an oral language involves a different set of skills than

learning a visual language. Hadley is exposed to sign language at her

preschool (an integrated room where two of the children are non-verbal due

to other reasons and use some limited sign language). Right now, at age 4,

she can't stand it when the teachers use sign when they speak with her and

has told them it is distracting (her words, not mine). She is a visual kid

who adamantly wants to use her listening and verbal skills to communicate.

I agree with the parent who said that she dropped sign to devote all of her

time and energy to developing her child's spoken language skills. I did the

same. Learning sign as an adult was all consuming and I felt that I was

having to think too much on the sign as opposed to sharing the natural flow

of spoken language (by natural, I mean that the words flowed easily from my

mouth as opposed to the halting sign language coming from a new signer). I

am pleased that my husband and I made this choice to dedicate ourselves to

spoken language for Hadley. This is what worked best for us.

I have noticed quite a few parents posting opinions to the recent newcomers

that they should do sign with their children, regardless of age, hearing

status, or available options. Choosing a communication method is for the

family to decide. Our kids are all different and what works for one family

is not going to work for another. We've all chosen ways that have worked

for our families; lets give these newcomers a chance to review the resources

we have shared with them and make the best decisions for themselves. Our

stories and experiences are valuable to share, but our judgment calls may

just prevent some families from seeking out the solutions that will work

best for them.

Kerry

[Guest guest]

-----Original Message-----

<<snip>> It still irks me after 11 years when

anybody says that the use of sign language will delay spoken

language!

Just to offer another perspective, my daughter is one of those kids who

focused more on the visual language than oral. We tried sign language for a

while, but she is so visually oriented that it interfered with her oral

development. At the same time, however, it was clear through her actions

that she wanted to express herself orally. We dropped all sign, focused on

providing her with rich oral language, and she blossomed. She is very

interested now in other languages and has picked up quite a few words and

expressions in two other languages. I respectfully disagree when people

compare learning sign language as the same as learning a spoken foreign

language. Learning an oral language involves a different set of skills than

learning a visual language. Hadley is exposed to sign language at her

preschool (an integrated room where two of the children are non-verbal due

to other reasons and use some limited sign language). Right now, at age 4,

she can't stand it when the teachers use sign when they speak with her and

has told them it is distracting (her words, not mine). She is a visual kid

who adamantly wants to use her listening and verbal skills to communicate.

I agree with the parent who said that she dropped sign to devote all of her

time and energy to developing her child's spoken language skills. I did the

same. Learning sign as an adult was all consuming and I felt that I was

having to think too much on the sign as opposed to sharing the natural flow

of spoken language (by natural, I mean that the words flowed easily from my

mouth as opposed to the halting sign language coming from a new signer). I

am pleased that my husband and I made this choice to dedicate ourselves to

spoken language for Hadley. This is what worked best for us.

I have noticed quite a few parents posting opinions to the recent newcomers

that they should do sign with their children, regardless of age, hearing

status, or available options. Choosing a communication method is for the

family to decide. Our kids are all different and what works for one family

is not going to work for another. We've all chosen ways that have worked

for our families; lets give these newcomers a chance to review the resources

we have shared with them and make the best decisions for themselves. Our

stories and experiences are valuable to share, but our judgment calls may

just prevent some families from seeking out the solutions that will work

best for them.

Kerry

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/1/2006 10:59:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

maryemapa@... writes:

Jill, the deaf kids I know and Hayley, now that she is at a deaf

school, fingerspell like lightning. Somebody suggested to me to

fingerspell all the time - in the car when you pass road signs, etc,

etc. Just make a habit out of it wherever you are and eventually the

fs will speed up. I know its easier said than done, but I did try to

do this and now that I'm on the road a lot the fs practice is now sort

of rote.

Our ASL tutor has told us to do that as well, but I'm still pretty pathetic.

I've actually found myself finger-spelling in the grocery store as I go down

my list of stuff I need -- and caught people watching me like I'm insane.

I'm a new version of a crazy bag lady, I guess. Instead of talking to myself,

I sign to myself. LOL

Actually, Ian has picked up the finger-spelling so quickly he amazes me. But

I shouldn't really be surprised, he's relied on visual input for years

through his lip reading. I use sound to support the visual. He uses the visual

in

place of or to support the sound. It only makes sense that he'd be the one

picking up signing the fastest.

Best -- Jill

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JillcWood@... wrote:

<<Our ASL tutor has told us to do that as well, but I'm still pretty pathetic.

>>

Our tutor suggested that we fs short words (start out with 3 letters then work

up to more) in front of a mirror, being sure to look at our eyes and not our

hand. It does help. I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My

daughter, on the other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it.

Kids. They're just sponges.

johanna

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In a message dated 1/3/2006 8:12:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

em2_mom@... writes:

I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My daughter, on the

other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it. Kids. They're

just sponges.

I constantly get F and D mixed up.It is the source of teasing and jokes

about my " speech impediment. " I have done it since the very beginning. In

fact,

in one of our first lessons -- and it might have been the very first one, she

showed me the sign for " duck " and told me never, ever to fingerspell it. LOL

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JillcWood@... wrote: <<In fact,

in one of our first lessons -- and it might have been the very first one, she

showed me the sign for " duck " and told me never, ever to fingerspell it.>> LOL

HA!

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JillcWood@... wrote: <<In fact,

in one of our first lessons -- and it might have been the very first one, she

showed me the sign for " duck " and told me never, ever to fingerspell it.>> LOL

HA!

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I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My daughter, on the

other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it. Kids. They're

just sponges.

Gosh, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that gets these two letters mixed

up. Of course it stinks for me because my first and last name both begin with a

d! Consiquently I " stutter " a lot when I fingerspell my name.

Debbie mom to 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never were

and ask why not. G.B Shaw

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If you think of F, think of FLY. If you look at your fingers, you can see that

you have wings that you can flap formed by your other fingers. A D gives you

nothing to fly with. A D gives you a shovel to dig with. Just don't actually

" fly " your F as that has another less pleasant connotation.

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> I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My daughter, on the

> other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it. Kids. They're

> just sponges.

>

>

>

> Gosh, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that gets these two letters mixed

> up. Of course it stinks for me because my first and last name both begin with

a

> d! Consiquently I " stutter " a lot when I fingerspell my name.

>

> Debbie mom to 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

>

>

>

>

> Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never

were

> and ask why not. G.B Shaw

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

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[Guest guest]

If you think of F, think of FLY. If you look at your fingers, you can see that

you have wings that you can flap formed by your other fingers. A D gives you

nothing to fly with. A D gives you a shovel to dig with. Just don't actually

" fly " your F as that has another less pleasant connotation.

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>

> I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My daughter, on the

> other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it. Kids. They're

> just sponges.

>

>

>

> Gosh, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that gets these two letters mixed

> up. Of course it stinks for me because my first and last name both begin with

a

> d! Consiquently I " stutter " a lot when I fingerspell my name.

>

> Debbie mom to 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

>

>

>

>

> Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never

were

> and ask why not. G.B Shaw

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

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[Guest guest]

If you think of F, think of FLY. If you look at your fingers, you can see that

you have wings that you can flap formed by your other fingers. A D gives you

nothing to fly with. A D gives you a shovel to dig with. Just don't actually

" fly " your F as that has another less pleasant connotation.

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>

> I still stink at it. F and D get me stumped every time. My daughter, on the

> other hand, can fs Harry Potter faster than she can say it. Kids. They're

> just sponges.

>

>

>

> Gosh, I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that gets these two letters mixed

> up. Of course it stinks for me because my first and last name both begin with

a

> d! Consiquently I " stutter " a lot when I fingerspell my name.

>

> Debbie mom to 6, moderate SNHL and , 3, hearing

>

>

>

>

> Some men see things as they are and ask why. Others dream things that never

were

> and ask why not. G.B Shaw

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

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>

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--- semesky@... wrote:

<< If you think of F, think of FLY. If you look at

your fingers, you can see that you have wings that

you can flap formed by your other fingers. A D gives

you nothing to fly with. A D gives you a shovel to

dig with. Just don't actually " fly " your F as that

has another less pleasant connotation.>>

Thanks, . I'll pass this hint along to my husband

as well. We both stutter when it comes to those

letters. But now, that other sign ... you've piqued my

curiosity! I'll certainly be a lot more careful now!

johanna

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