Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing Profession -YES

[Guest guest]

Yes. I'm not a medic, but i'm aware that medical professionals can

request exemptions from mandatory vaccination. Last year, many

samples of such letters had been shared on a VIP list

(aka " Vaccinationsandourkids " group), which unfortunately, was

discontinued by its owner shortly after; those archives had been

deleted.

You may try to contact Ingri Cassel at vaclib@... for more

information.

Good luck.

> Hi There:

> I'm getting a little concerned myself, regarding the medical field

in nursing.> My daughter when finishes highschool one more year wants

to go into nursing, i think it's great, but i am very leary cause she

has to have these vaccines regularly. So i am almost gearing her to

another profession, unfortunately i hate to do it, but she doesn't

understand the mercury issues around vaccines, so i am trying to

protect her. Does anybody know if you do the nursing program and

employed as a nurse can refuse vaccines for conscientious and

religious reasons be exempted?

> Which i have had my kids now exempted from vaccines while in school-

only highschool wish i knew better years ago tho.? Any insights from

the list on this, perhaps some nurses or docs. that have been

exempted for reasons above???

> n

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

As am RN, as far as I know you are not required to have any vaccines. The

hospital is required to offer you protection say from Hepatitis B but you can

refuse it and just sign the proposal, stating that you are informed, but would

like to refuse the vaccines. Nurses are not required to have flu shots, etc. I

have never taken one. Unless things have changed, hope this helps. Your

daughter would probably make a great nurse especially with the knowledge you

have given her. Good luck!! Kathy

scap_64 <scap_64@...> wrote:

Yes. I'm not a medic, but i'm aware that medical professionals can

request exemptions from mandatory vaccination. Last year, many

samples of such letters had been shared on a VIP list

(aka " Vaccinationsandourkids " group), which unfortunately, was

discontinued by its owner shortly after; those archives had been

deleted.

You may try to contact Ingri Cassel at vaclib@... for more

information.

Good luck.

> Hi There:

> I'm getting a little concerned myself, regarding the medical field

in nursing.> My daughter when finishes highschool one more year wants

to go into nursing, i think it's great, but i am very leary cause she

has to have these vaccines regularly. So i am almost gearing her to

another profession, unfortunately i hate to do it, but she doesn't

understand the mercury issues around vaccines, so i am trying to

protect her. Does anybody know if you do the nursing program and

employed as a nurse can refuse vaccines for conscientious and

religious reasons be exempted?

> Which i have had my kids now exempted from vaccines while in school-

only highschool wish i knew better years ago tho.? Any insights from

the list on this, perhaps some nurses or docs. that have been

exempted for reasons above???

> n

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > Hi There:

> > I'm getting a little concerned myself, regarding the medical

field

> in nursing.> My daughter when finishes highschool one more year

wants

> to go into nursing, i think it's great, but i am very leary cause

she

> has to have these vaccines regularly. So i am almost gearing her to

> another profession, unfortunately i hate to do it, but she doesn't

> understand the mercury issues around vaccines, so i am trying to

> protect her. Does anybody know if you do the nursing program and

> employed as a nurse can refuse vaccines for conscientious and

> religious reasons be exempted?

> > Which i have had my kids now exempted from vaccines while in

school-

> only highschool wish i knew better years ago tho.? Any insights

from

> the list on this, perhaps some nurses or docs. that have been

> exempted for reasons above???

> > n

> >

I am an RN and I have had Hep B series and DT booster in 1997 and low

and behold in 1998 I conceived my son and he is the only one of my 4

kids with health issues, autistic like behavior (although not dx

w/autism). I jsut started working again part time and was told by new

hospital that unless I had a MD letter stating I had prior reaction

to vaccine I was not allowed to refuse. Nurse practiotioner at the

hospital said it is up to each individul hospital to decide what is

mandatory. They told me I Had to get a DPT shot and I said no way, I

would take a tetanus if and only when I was injured. In the meantime

I found my old records from previous job and I am good with tetanus

until 2007, but at that time I will refuse it, if it comes down to it

I will quit. I know too many nurses dx w/ fibromyalgia, chronic

fatigue etc, and ALOT of RN's with children with various health

problems, So bottom line I think it is up to each state and each

hospital to make the rules. However, it is in Nursing school when

you get really hit with quite a few vaccines they require for

admission, or at least it was that way several years ago when I went.

[Guest guest]

> Dosen't anyone realize that vaccines save lives?Thymersol is no longer in use

for vaccines, which is the preservative that everyone has there feathers in a up

roar about.All vaccines are in single use form and not being in the medical

field with a child with autism I would rather have my child vaccinated then

worry about him getting hib B or some other desease then dieing then from autism

in it self.Autism is treatable hib you can die from.Last I heard nobody died

from autism.You should encourge you daughter to get the vaccine.If she is to be

a nurse she will be in contact with all kinds of stuff.Would you rather watch

your daughter become successfull in her career or be at her bedside in the very

hospital she works and see her suffer?Just my oinion.

Kim

> From: Liam Buckley <lkccpbuckley@...>

> Date: 2004/06/25 Fri PM 09:43:00 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing

Profession -YES

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh my what diseases are you talking about..................

We don't see the diseases in the vaccines they keep pumping into us anymore.

Look at how many strains of flu's their is and you get one vaccine for one flu

goes to show you it doesn't cover for all flu's so therefore we are still

exposed to all the others we are not protected from all diseases and or

different strains of diseases we take vaccines for.

The diseases of today we are all exposed to with our natural immune system, as

long as we don't suppress

it with the dangerous effects of the vaccines, our immune system will jump in

and work to keep us from

getting the new dieases, isn't that we we are doing today. We are at risk

taking vaccines for no longer do these

diseases exist as well as at risk not taking the vaccines that don't work for

the new diseases today anyways.

So therefore don't you want a healthier immune system rather then one that is

suppressed to fight off the

new diseases today.

n

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Profession -YES

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is Mercury in the flu vaccines, and babies will be getting

this and also pregnant women. Does vaccines kill babies? HUNDREDS!

Vaccines have caused Autism, But they have also caused numerous

other health problems for infants, including SIDS, The babies who

have survived SIDS are Severely/Profoundly handicapped. Educate

yourselves on vaccines..

WWW.909shot.com

Donna

>

> > Dosen't anyone realize that vaccines save lives?Thymersol is no

longer in use for vaccines, which is the preservative that everyone

has there feathers in a up roar about.All vaccines are in single use

form and not being in the medical field with a child with autism I

would rather have my child vaccinated then worry about him getting

hib B or some other desease then dieing then from autism in it

self.Autism is treatable hib you can die from.Last I heard nobody

died from autism.You should encourge you daughter to get the

vaccine.If she is to be a nurse she will be in contact with all

kinds of stuff.Would you rather watch your daughter become

successfull in her career or be at her bedside in the very hospital

she works and see her suffer?Just my oinion.

> Kim

> > From: Liam Buckley <lkccpbuckley@s...>

> > Date: 2004/06/25 Fri PM 09:43:00 EDT

> >

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the

Nursing Profession -YES

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

All I'm saying is that I would rather be vaccinated from yesterdays diseases and

know that my chances of getting 1 is less. Polo is still around last I

heard.Pneumococcal is still around or you wouldn't get vaccinated for it.Again,

vaccines are to help protect you and lessen the chances of getting sick.I feel

everyone with a autistic child has put him/her at rise long before they had

children.Mercury fillings in your mouth for one.Nobody knew that long ago or

failed to let anyone know about the dangers of those filling.Metals do get past

on to your child whether you breast feed or not. The very water you drink has

metals in it.Vaccines, yes had mercury in it, thymersol was used as a

presertive. Autism was discovered in the 40's?Vaccines were not that big back

then or should I say you didn't get as many back then. I belive, if the toxic

metals you had indested in your body all those years ago(I'm not saying you are

old)growing up, don't you think you would be autistic?I belive those very same

metal toxics help along the process of a child being dianogis with autism but

not the reason our children have autism.I belive its alot of different things

all rolled into one.All the shots and mercury fillings I had as a child/adult

have something to do with it, you bet but not the cause of autism.Again,just my

opinion.

Kim

>

> From: " n " <inglevly@...>

> Date: 2004/06/26 Sat AM 10:37:24 EDT

> < >

> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing

Profession -YES

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I see I have caused a uproar with everyone.Didn't want to do that.You as a

parent have a choice to vaccinate or not.You choose to give " your " baby a flu

shot. I have worked developmental Peds for over 10 years and there is always a

choice.Whether you give a flu shot or not, if your child(baby) gets it,its slow

coming to get better.The flu kills whether you get the shot for it or

not.Thymersol is what is in those shots which is a mercury base presertive. I am

up to date on my shot knowledge.

> From: " Donna " <dma_nc1@...>

> Date: 2004/06/26 Sat AM 10:54:55 EDT

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing Profession

-YES

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a 18 year old son who was poisoned from vaccines, He has the

mental age of a 6 month old infant. I would rather have a child with

Polio, the flu, pneumonia, ect. He has had the flu numerous times

and got over it, He has been hospitalized with pneumonia three

times, and has gotten over that. But he has'nt gotten over being

poisoned from vaccines!

Donna

The general public is essentially unaware of the true number of

people (mostly children) who have been permanently damaged or killed

by vaccines. In fact, most parents would be surprised to learn that

the government has a secret computer database filled with several

thousand names of disabled and dead babies, children who were

healthy and alive just prior to receiving the vaccines. Of course,

the medical establishment and federal government don't readily

disclose this information because they know it's likely to frighten

parents into seeking other ways to protect their children. In other

words, parents just might think this issue through on their own and

decide to reject the shots.

http://thinktwice.com/secret.htm

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>> Autism was discovered in the 40's?Vaccines were not that big back

then or should I say you didn't get as many back then. >>>

At the last autism conference I went to, they talked about how

thimerisol was first added into vaccines in the late 1930's and early

1940's. I have never personally researched that to be sure it's

true, but assuming these doctors knew what they were talking about,

that would be consistant with the theroy.

just my humble opinion

jodi

><}}}>

[Guest guest]

I think I had to have a tetnaus shot and hepatitis B series before I

got into nursing school. I think that the hepatitis B was optional but

everyone ended up getting it. Kristy

On Jun 26, 2004, at 7:46 AM, deverelementary wrote:

>

>>> Hi There:

>>> I'm getting a little concerned myself, regarding the medical

> field

>> in nursing.> My daughter when finishes highschool one more year

> wants

>> to go into nursing, i think it's great, but i am very leary cause

> she

>> has to have these vaccines regularly. So i am almost gearing her to

>> another profession, unfortunately i hate to do it, but she doesn't

>> understand the mercury issues around vaccines, so i am trying to

>> protect her. Does anybody know if you do the nursing program and

>> employed as a nurse can refuse vaccines for conscientious and

>> religious reasons be exempted?

>>> Which i have had my kids now exempted from vaccines while in

> school-

>> only highschool wish i knew better years ago tho.? Any insights

> from

>> the list on this, perhaps some nurses or docs. that have been

>> exempted for reasons above???

>>> n

>>>

>

> I am an RN and I have had Hep B series and DT booster in 1997 and low

> and behold in 1998 I conceived my son and he is the only one of my 4

> kids with health issues, autistic like behavior (although not dx

> w/autism). I jsut started working again part time and was told by new

> hospital that unless I had a MD letter stating I had prior reaction

> to vaccine I was not allowed to refuse. Nurse practiotioner at the

> hospital said it is up to each individul hospital to decide what is

> mandatory. They told me I Had to get a DPT shot and I said no way, I

> would take a tetanus if and only when I was injured. In the meantime

> I found my old records from previous job and I am good with tetanus

> until 2007, but at that time I will refuse it, if it comes down to it

> I will quit. I know too many nurses dx w/ fibromyalgia, chronic

> fatigue etc, and ALOT of RN's with children with various health

> problems, So bottom line I think it is up to each state and each

> hospital to make the rules. However, it is in Nursing school when

> you get really hit with quite a few vaccines they require for

> admission, or at least it was that way several years ago when I went.

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Believe it or not, these diseases are out there. As a nurse, I was

surprised myself to come in contact with a child with polio. Another

time, I saw a child with a terrible case of the mumps. Even in nursing

if you wash your hands a lot, you are still exposed to who knows what.

Nursing is a wonderful profession, though. We need good nurses. There

are so many areas in which to choose. However, in nursing school, you

are exposed to all the areas and may or may not come into contact with

infectious diseases. Just tell her to be careful and aware of

patient's conditions. Kristy

On Jun 26, 2004, at 9:37 AM, n wrote:

> Oh my what diseases are you talking about..................

> We don't see the diseases in the vaccines they keep pumping into us

> anymore. Look at how many strains of flu's their is and you get one

> vaccine for one flu goes to show you it doesn't cover for all flu's so

> therefore we are still exposed to all the others we are not protected

> from all diseases and or different strains of diseases we take

> vaccines for.

> The diseases of today we are all exposed to with our natural immune

> system, as long as we don't suppress

> it with the dangerous effects of the vaccines, our immune system will

> jump in and work to keep us from

> getting the new dieases, isn't that we we are doing today. We are at

> risk taking vaccines for no longer do these

> diseases exist as well as at risk not taking the vaccines that don't

> work for the new diseases today anyways.

> So therefore don't you want a healthier immune system rather then one

> that is suppressed to fight off the

> new diseases today.

>

> n

> Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the

>> Nursing Profession -YES

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know for sure if you can get a mercury free flu vaccine? I

heard this on a list but I can't find out how to get it. That would be

great if we could get it mercury free, considering my son had a

terrible bout with the flu last year. Kristy

On Jun 26, 2004, at 9:54 AM, Donna wrote:

> There is Mercury in the flu vaccines, and babies will be getting

> this and also pregnant women. Does vaccines kill babies? HUNDREDS!

> Vaccines have caused Autism, But they have also caused numerous

> other health problems for infants, including SIDS, The babies who

> have survived SIDS are Severely/Profoundly handicapped. Educate

> yourselves on vaccines..

>

> WWW.909shot.com

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>>> Dosen't anyone realize that vaccines save lives?Thymersol is no

> longer in use for vaccines, which is the preservative that everyone

> has there feathers in a up roar about.All vaccines are in single use

> form and not being in the medical field with a child with autism I

> would rather have my child vaccinated then worry about him getting

> hib B or some other desease then dieing then from autism in it

> self.Autism is treatable hib you can die from.Last I heard nobody

> died from autism.You should encourge you daughter to get the

> vaccine.If she is to be a nurse she will be in contact with all

> kinds of stuff.Would you rather watch your daughter become

> successfull in her career or be at her bedside in the very hospital

> she works and see her suffer?Just my oinion.

>> Kim

>>> From: Liam Buckley <lkccpbuckley@s...>

>>> Date: 2004/06/25 Fri PM 09:43:00 EDT

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the

> Nursing Profession -YES

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Yes, but just use Tamiflu after the fact! That's a much better way to fight

the flu then getting a vaccine that (according to the CDC) only had about

0-30% efficacy rate last year!

Barb

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> > Nursing Profession -YES

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Kim, why don't you go buy the book, 'The Virus and The Vaccine', read it from

cover to cover, then go get all the shots that our kids are expected to get

yourself. Then let us know how you are feeling in about a month.

I just had a friend to call me a couple of days ago, her sister's niece, age 15

months, had received the MMR two weeks ago. This child has been crying

non-stop, and having lose of balance. It is not just the thermorasol in the

vaccines that can cause autism. The live weakend viruses in the vaccines can

cause it too, among many other bad things. Until it can be proven that no cross

contamination from other species' DNA and viruses has occurred in the process of

making the vaccine, there is no such thing as a safe vaccine.

> Dosen't anyone realize that vaccines save lives?Thymersol is no longer in

use for vaccines, which is the preservative that everyone has there feathers in

a up roar about.All vaccines are in single use form and not being in the medical

field with a child with autism I would rather have my child vaccinated then

worry about him getting hib B or some other desease then dieing then from autism

in it self.Autism is treatable hib you can die from.Last I heard nobody died

from autism.You should encourge you daughter to get the vaccine.If she is to be

a nurse she will be in contact with all kinds of stuff.Would you rather watch

your daughter become successfull in her career or be at her bedside in the very

hospital she works and see her suffer?Just my oinion.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy:

No doubt they are out there, but they are not hitting the front pages of the

news, so to me i think it's almost a rarity to

have/contract these old diseases these days. HIV and Cancer hits the front

pages these days. And we have no vaccines against them. Yet we have alot of

immigration that brings in new diseases as well(not knocking immigration, but we

are not taking vaccines for these foreign country diseases that come into our

country). If we are going to be exposed we need to have healthy immune systems

to fight them. If we keep surpressing them with vaccines we are in very serious

trouble. Our immune system is our defense system.

Thanks for the nursing and/ or medical profession encouragment for my daughter.

We have some time to think, maybe by then the vaccines will be used less or more

change of attitude towards them. I am also a dog breeder and vaccines are very

deterimential to our animals as well, horses will die from a vaccine(not sure

which one it is)but horse breeders are very concerned as well as dog breeders in

regards to giving vaccines, i am sure cat breeders too, as well as our kids that

vaccinosis is a very real concern to our immune systems to all that live and

breath.

n

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>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Polio cases in this country in the last 15 years has been a result of the live

oral polio vaccine itself, not wild polio.

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kim:

I am on another dog/animal discussion list their is a wonderful homeopathic

person their that is helping/giving suggestions to help assist vaccine damaged

animals it's very

very rampant and it's the same problem we are having with our vaccine damaged

children and humans.

And what i have been told/hear say our vaccines today are more potent then they

ever were with their damaging effects.

n

[Guest guest]

Hello .I have had all those shot that " our " children have. I work in the

medical field with a developmental Ped and I see all kinds of stuff.I'm not

saying vaccines are good or bad, what I'm saying is the risk of getting

" yesterdays " deseases are much higher without the vaccines than with them.If you

lived in a plastic bubble all you child hood life with no shots, then all of the

sudden someone let you out. What do you think your chances are of getting

something are? Very good in my opinion.I'm sorry that your friends niece is

having a reaction to the mmr. My 1 yo did also but thats not going to stop me

from having him get his other when time comes.Lose of balance could be from

inner ear problem also and didn't know the condition was there untill after the

vaccine.Believe you me I do also believe that vaccines help the process of

autism but not the cause of it.I believe the child is born with it and then here

comes everyone dumping all kinds of things in this new life without giving it a

chance to delevop a system of its own first.I'm not saying what anyone does to

help their child is wrong. But I feel everyone is blaming everything else and

mother nature might have her hand in this.And no matter what, your child will

still be autistic and nothing is going to change that.

>

> From: " jennifer thompson " <autism_mercurylist@...>

> Date: 2004/06/26 Sat PM 12:18:25 EDT

> < >

> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing

Profession -YES

>

>

[Guest guest]

Been a nurse/nurse practitioner almost 20 years, worked in big county

hospitals/ERs for more than 14. Have seen 3 cases of measles, all

were unimmunized children who caught it on a trip out of the

country. Have also seen kids who had polio (generally from out of

the country) Used to also see lots of problems due to HIB, not so

much lately. Anyways...my son thank God did not get the MMR

(diagnosed before it was time)and even after having seen measles up

close, I would rather die than give him the MMR, which I believe

would have pushed him over the edge into the land of the

unrecoverable. Myself, I have had over 40 mercury containing vaxes

as an adult, and regret 90% of them. However, for anyone going into

nursing, I might honestly consider Hep B, as nurses in certain high-

risk areas like critical care and ER or dialysis do get needle sticks

(I've had 2 bad ones)and Hep B is fairly commonplace in some

populations. But...if my ASD child were involved, I would choose

another field rather than have him immunized. Even if he were older

and recovered, we just don't know enough about immunizations and

things like autoimmune, etc. Sad, but this disease robs children of

many things...some job opportunities might be one of them. Kim

> Hello .I have had all those shot that " our " children have.

I work in the medical field with a developmental Ped and I see all

kinds of stuff.I'm not saying vaccines are good or bad, what I'm

saying is the risk of getting " yesterdays " deseases are much higher

without the vaccines than with them.If you lived in a plastic bubble

all you child hood life with no shots, then all of the sudden someone

let you out. What do you think your chances are of getting something

are? Very good in my opinion.I'm sorry that your friends niece is

having a reaction to the mmr. My 1 yo did also but thats not going to

stop me from having him get his other when time comes.Lose of balance

could be from inner ear problem also and didn't know the condition

was there untill after the vaccine.Believe you me I do also believe

that vaccines help the process of autism but not the cause of it.I

believe the child is born with it and then here comes everyone

dumping all kinds of things in this new life without giving it a

chance to delevop a system of its own first.I'm not saying what

anyone does to help their child is wrong. But I feel everyone is

blaming everything else and mother nature might have her hand in

this.And no matter what, your child will still be autistic and

nothing is going to change that.

> >

> > From: " jennifer thompson " <autism_mercurylist@m...>

> > Date: 2004/06/26 Sat PM 12:18:25 EDT

> > < >

> > Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for

the Nursing Profession -YES

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just one fact: out of 152 children that allegedly, according to

CDC, " died from flu " last year, at least 30% had been vaccinated.

> Oh my what diseases are you talking about..................

> We don't see the diseases in the vaccines they keep pumping into us

anymore. Look at how many strains of flu's their is and you get one

vaccine for one flu goes to show you it doesn't cover for all flu's

so therefore we are still exposed to all the others we are not

protected from all diseases and or different strains of diseases we

take vaccines for.

> The diseases of today we are all exposed to with our natural immune

system, as long as we don't suppress > it with the dangerous effects

of the vaccines, our immune system will jump in and work to keep us

from > getting the new dieases, isn't that we we are doing today. We

are at risk taking vaccines for no longer do these > diseases exist

as well as at risk not taking the vaccines that don't work for the

new diseases today anyways.

> So therefore don't you want a healthier immune system rather then

one that is suppressed to fight off the > new diseases today.

>

> n

> Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the

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> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are right n. I had forwarded an article to this list last year about

that. It says that more and more vets are seeing autoimmune diseases in pets,

along with various cancers on a huge rise. And they attributed it to the

vaccines. Also, on of my best friends from college is also a vet. She told me

the same thing. She said they are being told that they are over vaccinating,

destroying the immune system, instead of making it stronger.

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Kim:

I am on another dog/animal discussion list their is a wonderful homeopathic

person their that is helping/giving suggestions to help assist vaccine damaged

animals it's very

very rampant and it's the same problem we are having with our vaccine damaged

children and humans.

And what i have been told/hear say our vaccines today are more potent then

they ever were with their damaging effects.

n

[Guest guest]

Autism is an immune system dysfunction, caused by mercury, and or vaccines. If

autism were a retardation caused by genetics like downs syndrome, it could not

be cured. My son is cured. You cannot cure downs syndrome.

How do you explain a mentally healthy 12 year old boy becoming autistic after

receiving a booster shot? he was not born autistic, he became autistic after

getting poison injected into him. My son's pediatric neurologist told me about

this child. And he also told me to NEVER vaccinate my son again, that to do this

could cause him to become autistic to the point of no return.

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>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry but not for all the tea in China could you get me to believe that

autism is a " immune system dysfunction " . Well how do you explain that I have a 4

yo with autism with all shots and a 2 yo with all shots who is NOT autistic?Both

are boys.The math doesn't add up. If that was the case every child in the world

who has recieved some kind of vaccines would be autistic.And adults as well.I'm

not hear to argue with you or anyone else for that matter.But what you just said

doesn't make any sense to me.Yes, with vaccines come some kinds of comlication.

Nothing in life is with out risk. Heck, walking down the street these days can

be deadly.But you do the best you can with the hand GOD dealt you and you move

on with life and with hopes it gets better one way or the other.Most women

become mothers by accident, some by choice, a few by

social pressures and a couple by habit.

This year nearly 100,000 women will become mothers of handicapped

children. Did you ever wonder how mothers of handicapped children

are chosen?

Somehow I visualize God hovering over earth selecting his

instruments for propagation with great care and deliberation. As He

observes, He instructs His angels to make notes in a giant ledger.

" Armstrong, Beth; son. Patron saint...give her Gerard. He's used to

profanity. "

" Forrest, Marjorie; daughter. Patron saint, Cecelia. "

" Rutledge, ; twins. Patron saint, . "

Finally He passes a name to an angel and smiles, " Give her a

handicapped child. "

The angel is curious. " Why this one God? She's so happy. "

" Exactly, " smiles God, " Could I give a handicapped child to a mother

who does not know laughter? That would be cruel. "

" But has she patience? " asks the angel.

" I don't want her to have too much patience or she will drown in a

sea of self-pity and despair. Once the shock and resentment wears

off, she'll handle it. "

" I watched her today. She has that feeling of self and independence

that is so rare and so necessary in a mother. You see, the child I'm

going to give her has her own world. She has to make her live in her

world and that's not going to be easy. "

" But, Lord, I don't think she even believes in you. " God smiles, " No

matter, I can fix that. This one is perfect - she has just enough

selfishness. " The angel gasps - " selfishness? is that a virtue? "

God nods. " If she can't separate herself from the child

occasionally, she'll never survive. Yes, here is a woman whom I will

bless with a child less than perfect. She doesn't realize it yet,

but she is to be envied. She will never take for granted a 'spoken

word' " . She will never consider a " step " ordinary. When her child

says 'Momma' for the first time, she will be present at a miracle,

and will know it! "

" I will permit her to see clearly the things I see...ignorance,

cruelty, prejudice....and allow her to rise above them. She will

never be alone. I will be at her side every minute of every day of

her life, because she is doing My work as surely as if she is here

by My side " .

" And what about her Patron saint? " asks the angel, his pen poised in

mid-air.

God smiles, " A mirror will suffice. "

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> From: " jennifer thompson " <autism_mercurylist@...>

> Date: 2004/06/26 Sat PM 02:04:34 EDT

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> Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for the Nursing

Profession -YES

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[Guest guest]

My children weren't born with mercury poisoning, they were injected

with it.

My boys both were healthy babies who met milestones as they should

have. Then started regressing.

It wasn't mother nature's hand in my boys' situation, it was the

doctor's hand and the pharma's hand.

And you are wrong about my not being able to do anything to get my

boys' back. They are on their way back, from doing biomedical

inteventions and starting chelation.

I believe the child is born with it and then here comes everyone

dumping all kinds of things in this new life without giving it a

chance to delevop a system of its own first.I'm not saying what

anyone does to help their child is wrong. But I feel everyone is

blaming everything else and mother nature might have her hand in

this.And no matter what, your child will still be autistic and

nothing is going to change that.

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> > From: " jennifer thompson " <autism_mercurylist@m...>

> > Date: 2004/06/26 Sat PM 12:18:25 EDT

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> > Subject: Re: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Exemption for

the Nursing Profession -YES

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