Re: Regression without vaccination?

April 21, 2004

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My little boy developed eczema at 4 months, and he was solely breastfed. I hate

to tell you this, but you CANNOT eat ANYTHING that he is allergic/sensitive to

until you completely stop breastfeeding. If you're eating gluten, then he is not

gluten-free.

I would recommend seeing a good allergist - one that is a DAN! doctor would be

ideal. He'll need to have skin tests for IgE allergies, and blood tests for IgG

sensitivities. You'll need to completely pull out all those foods that come back

positive from BOTH you and your son's diet. Eczema is caused by allergies, so if

your son is having any breakouts or visible signs of eczema, he's still

ingesting allergens. (Unfortunately, there's alot of misinformation out there

with most physicians even with regard to eczema - most pediatricians - even at

major children's hospitals - will still deny that eczema is caused by

allergies!)

A DAN! doctor may have some additional supplements.

How much probiotics are you giving him?

This is the perfect time to take aggressive action. You might save yourself alot

more time, money, and heartache down the road!!!!!!

Gracie

Hensley <ahensley11@...> wrote:

I have 2 boys. My 1 year old is unvaccinated and 18 months old. He is

allergic to gluten and has eczema. He is otherwise NT.. starting to

talk and much more " in tune " than my 4 year old was at that age. I hear

about children that regress without vaccinations... why does this

happen? I want to do everything I can to prevent losing my baby to

autism. I give him probiotics and Kirkmans multi-vit. He is still

breastfeeding. He is basically on a GFCF diet except for what he gets

in the breastmilk. His stools are sometimes weird, but better with

probiotics. I hate worrying about this. I can't wait until he is older

and out of the woods. He has no other signs of autism, but when he is

mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a stim.

I am making myself crazy. Thanks!

Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal apraxia) and

Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

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April 21, 2004

My son did regress without vaccination (not exactly sure what caused it).

He does have multiple food allergies.

Give Cod Liver Oil (switch to the without A & D multi...Kirkman has a few).

Avoid toxins. Give digestive enzymes (I switched from the Kirkman to

Houston brand...they are much better). PRAY!!!

[ ] Regression without vaccination?

> I have 2 boys. My 1 year old is unvaccinated and 18 months old. He is

> allergic to gluten and has eczema. He is otherwise NT.. starting to

> talk and much more " in tune " than my 4 year old was at that age. I hear

> about children that regress without vaccinations... why does this

> happen? I want to do everything I can to prevent losing my baby to

> autism. I give him probiotics and Kirkmans multi-vit. He is still

> breastfeeding. He is basically on a GFCF diet except for what he gets

> in the breastmilk. His stools are sometimes weird, but better with

> probiotics. I hate worrying about this. I can't wait until he is older

> and out of the woods. He has no other signs of autism, but when he is

> mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a stim.

> I am making myself crazy. Thanks!

>

> Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal apraxia) and

> Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

>

> =======================================================

>

April 22, 2004

I am in the same board!

I know my 20 mo daughter is mercury toxic (hair test when she was 9

mo) and she is still NT so far. She is still nursing too, on a

special diet too. I give her selenium, zinc and omega3.

I had some classic blood work run, especially to check thyroid. She

has hypothyroidism.

What I am afraid is that mercury causes slowly more and more damage,

thus causing developmental regression in a child, even if the child

is no more exposed.

I am going to test her hair again soon and if she still meets the

counting rules, I'll probably start chelation when she turns 2yo.

Did you do a hair test?

> I have 2 boys. My 1 year old is unvaccinated and 18 months old.

He is

> allergic to gluten and has eczema. He is otherwise NT.. starting to

> talk and much more " in tune " than my 4 year old was at that age. I

hear

> about children that regress without vaccinations... why does this

> happen? I want to do everything I can to prevent losing my baby to

> autism. I give him probiotics and Kirkmans multi-vit. He is still

> breastfeeding. He is basically on a GFCF diet except for what he

gets

> in the breastmilk. His stools are sometimes weird, but better with

> probiotics. I hate worrying about this. I can't wait until he is

older

> and out of the woods. He has no other signs of autism, but when he

is

> mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a

stim.

> I am making myself crazy. Thanks!

>

> Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal

apraxia) and

> Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

April 22, 2004

,

Have you considered that your son may have Sensory Integration

Dysfunction? My son is not on the spectrum, (he's 7), but I had to

have him evaluated (three times) between the ages of 5 and seven

because he " looks " like he has Asperger's Syndrome. He is a

flapper, has a slow, awkward, gait, is very intelligent, talks with

a bit of a melodic tone, and " spaced out " a lot in K. Turns out he

has CAPD, SID, ADD-I, and dyslexia. And " thinks " nothing at all

like a kiddo with an ASD.

I had him evaluated by two Psychologists and TEAACH. The fist

Psychologist ruled it out, without a lot of formal tests, so did

TEAACH, and then, as his school (private Catholic) was still not

convinced, I MADE a neuropsychologist do a full battery of tests

just for ASD's (along with a complete neuropsychological evaluation

as he was struggling so much both in school and socially). All

three reports complemented each other, and it took months! Lots of

different doctors and specialists, too. OK, I'm off on a tangent.

Back to you! May I suggest you get a copy of *The Out-of-Sync-

Child* see if you get any light-bulb moments, and if so, take him

to EI and get him an OT eval. I realize you probably know a lot

about SID, because of your older son, but it is just some FYI if you

don't!

Peace and Kindness

Sio

> > I have 2 boys. My 1 year old is unvaccinated and 18 months

old.

> He is

> > allergic to gluten and has eczema. He is otherwise NT..

starting to

> > talk and much more " in tune " than my 4 year old was at that

age. I

> hear

> > about children that regress without vaccinations... why does this

> > happen? I want to do everything I can to prevent losing my baby

to

> > autism. I give him probiotics and Kirkmans multi-vit. He is

still

> > breastfeeding. He is basically on a GFCF diet except for what

he

> gets

> > in the breastmilk. His stools are sometimes weird, but better

with

> > probiotics. I hate worrying about this. I can't wait until he

is

> older

> > and out of the woods. He has no other signs of autism, but when

he

> is

> > mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a

> stim.

> > I am making myself crazy. Thanks!

> >

> > Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal

> apraxia) and

> > Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

April 22, 2004

, not trying to " poo-poo " your concerns, but even typical kids

have occasional funky poops and flap around that age a little bit.

My first was typical, my 18 mo old seems typical (a slight

expressive speech delay, but very typial otherwise). I watch

babies/toddlers at church and they flap, too. Not like ASD, but

there is some flapping going on, they (church kids and mine) seem to

do with extreme emotion, either excitement or anger.

I also noticed that Dinah (18mo) got *slightly* more quiet between

12-18mos, but is now picking up on language just in the past week. I

do think the walking thing gets their attention for a time. It's so

very, very difficult not to obsess over every aspect of their

development after having a child with ASD, but many ASD behaviors

are done by NT kids, just the ASD kids are ultra super extreme, and

it's not a passing phase with ASD like with typical kids. I've

watched Dinah walk backward or spin and thought, " Oh no, here it

goes, " only to see her stop a couple of days later. I can now see

she was learning something new about her body. Have you had any

assessments through your early intervention? Any signs of delays at

all?

HTH,

Debi

His stools are sometimes weird, but better with

> probiotics. I hate worrying about this. I can't wait until he is

older

> and out of the woods. He has no other signs of autism, but when

he is

> mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a

stim.

> I am making myself crazy. Thanks!

>

> Mom to 2 beautiful blue eyed boys - Noah (4, pdd and verbal

apraxia) and

> Luke (1, NT and unvaccinated)

April 22, 2004

> I have 2 boys. My 1 year old is unvaccinated and 18 months old. He is

> allergic to gluten and has eczema. He is otherwise NT.. starting to

> talk and much more " in tune " than my 4 year old was at that age. I hear

> about children that regress without vaccinations... why does this

> happen?

Environmental assaults [like antimony in mattresses, air pollution,

etc]. Can also be the contracting of a virus. Other things probably.

>>>>He has no other signs of autism, but when he is

> mad he flaps his hands... It seems more of an anger thing than a stim.

My #4 flaps, she also mis-pronounces her words even tho she can say

them correctly. She does quite a few things that my #2 and #3 do,

because she is a great imitator. Drives me crazy, but she is just

imitating her brothers.

Dana

April 22, 2004

What other exposures to mercury could you have? Do you have a lot of dark

fillings in your mouth? Do you eat a lot of fish? Do you live neat a

coal-fired power plant?

Barb