Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 The doctors had a problem finding the pulses in my mother's feet too because of her edema. (She was not on actos) They had to use a special instrument to test. You could press the top of her foot in more than an inch; I had the same massive edema when I was pregnant. , you can get that edema out of your feet/foot with compression stockings. Not out of your body, but it isn't as big a problem when it is at your waist. Except for looks. You need to wear them all day, and they do make nice dark ones for men. Then the pulses will be a lot easier to find. I am surprised no doctor has mentioned wearing these stockings to you. I get mine at e-bay; however, Medicare will cover two pair a year. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 The doctors had a problem finding the pulses in my mother's feet too because of her edema. (She was not on actos) They had to use a special instrument to test. You could press the top of her foot in more than an inch; I had the same massive edema when I was pregnant. , you can get that edema out of your feet/foot with compression stockings. Not out of your body, but it isn't as big a problem when it is at your waist. Except for looks. You need to wear them all day, and they do make nice dark ones for men. Then the pulses will be a lot easier to find. I am surprised no doctor has mentioned wearing these stockings to you. I get mine at e-bay; however, Medicare will cover two pair a year. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > I really didn't want to take a statin drug, either. I was doing low-carb, > after all, and low-carb diets allow fats and the like...even unsaturated > ones...and had been shown to still have lower cholesterol. All these claims have a YMMV factor. They say about 25% of people show increased cholesterol on a low-carb diet with sat fat. That was the reason behind the GO Diet (now the Four Corners Diet), which limits sat fat. The statins also have a YMMV factor. Not everyone gets the bad side effects. Not everyone sees the good (Lipitor alone did nothing for my LDL, even at 80 mg). So everyone has to make a decision based on individual factors. If your parents developed muscle pains or statin-induced mental problems, then I wouldn't try them. If you parents had cholesterol levels in the 400s and lived to be 105, I wouldn't worry about high cholesterol. But if your relatives had heart attacks in their 50s, your parents had high cholesterol, took statins with no problem, and lived to be 105, then I'd choose a statin. Gretchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > , you can get that edema out of your feet/foot with compression > stockings. Or you could get one of those things that lets you hang by your feet. Then turn your computer monitor upside down and you're all set. Well, until your head swells up too much <G>. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > , you can get that edema out of your feet/foot with compression > stockings. Or you could get one of those things that lets you hang by your feet. Then turn your computer monitor upside down and you're all set. Well, until your head swells up too much <G>. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > , you can get that edema out of your feet/foot with compression > stockings. Or you could get one of those things that lets you hang by your feet. Then turn your computer monitor upside down and you're all set. Well, until your head swells up too much <G>. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > So everyone has to make a decision based on individual factors. If your > parents developed muscle pains or statin-induced mental problems, then I > wouldn't try them. If you parents had cholesterol levels in the 400s and > lived to be 105, I wouldn't worry about high cholesterol. But if your > relatives had heart attacks in their 50s, your parents had high cholesterol, > took statins with no problem, and lived to be 105, then I'd choose a statin. > > Gretchen. Hmm. Not sure where that leaves me. My mother is 70 and still going strong. She takes statins. My father died at 71 from complications of diabetes. He was on so much medication and had so many health problems that it's hard to tell which ones were caused by what. He had multiple heart attacks and strokes and about 7 bypasses. He had severe neuropathy and pain in the limbs - could have been from medication or just from the diabetes. He also had kidney failure and diminished eyesight. His pharmaceutical list was a full page long by the time he died, and I think some of the medications were to counteract the bad effects of some of the other medications. That's why I'm so reluctant. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > So everyone has to make a decision based on individual factors. If your > parents developed muscle pains or statin-induced mental problems, then I > wouldn't try them. If you parents had cholesterol levels in the 400s and > lived to be 105, I wouldn't worry about high cholesterol. But if your > relatives had heart attacks in their 50s, your parents had high cholesterol, > took statins with no problem, and lived to be 105, then I'd choose a statin. > > Gretchen. Hmm. Not sure where that leaves me. My mother is 70 and still going strong. She takes statins. My father died at 71 from complications of diabetes. He was on so much medication and had so many health problems that it's hard to tell which ones were caused by what. He had multiple heart attacks and strokes and about 7 bypasses. He had severe neuropathy and pain in the limbs - could have been from medication or just from the diabetes. He also had kidney failure and diminished eyesight. His pharmaceutical list was a full page long by the time he died, and I think some of the medications were to counteract the bad effects of some of the other medications. That's why I'm so reluctant. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > So everyone has to make a decision based on individual factors. If your > parents developed muscle pains or statin-induced mental problems, then I > wouldn't try them. If you parents had cholesterol levels in the 400s and > lived to be 105, I wouldn't worry about high cholesterol. But if your > relatives had heart attacks in their 50s, your parents had high cholesterol, > took statins with no problem, and lived to be 105, then I'd choose a statin. > > Gretchen. Hmm. Not sure where that leaves me. My mother is 70 and still going strong. She takes statins. My father died at 71 from complications of diabetes. He was on so much medication and had so many health problems that it's hard to tell which ones were caused by what. He had multiple heart attacks and strokes and about 7 bypasses. He had severe neuropathy and pain in the limbs - could have been from medication or just from the diabetes. He also had kidney failure and diminished eyesight. His pharmaceutical list was a full page long by the time he died, and I think some of the medications were to counteract the bad effects of some of the other medications. That's why I'm so reluctant. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 >it seems to run nearly $50 a bottle wherever I've looked< Ouch! I don't know where you are looking, but at iherb.com, a month's supply is $18.50. BTW, if you spend $20 here, shipping there is free. http://store.yahoo.com/iherb/nattokinase3.html The brand listed here is a good one, one that I have used myself, but there are many others available here and most are one third to half the price you mentioned. I have found that everything I use is much, much cheaper here. And I'm referring to name brands, not mystery brands. >I stopped ALA when I started cinnamon. I have to say I never noticed much difference with the ALA and EPO combination, anyway, so it was easy to decide to stop them.< I have stopped ALA from time to time, but I find that the (minor) neuropathy in my feet is a lot more noticeable when I stop. So I know it's doing something beneficial. However, I never expected it to lower my bgs, so I wasn't disappointed when it didn't. >The cinnamon I saw a difference right away.< Would you mind letting me know what results you are getting and how much you are taking? I'd like to lower my fasting bgs since they are usually the highest numbers I see. Thanks, Dianne __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 >it seems to run nearly $50 a bottle wherever I've looked< Ouch! I don't know where you are looking, but at iherb.com, a month's supply is $18.50. BTW, if you spend $20 here, shipping there is free. http://store.yahoo.com/iherb/nattokinase3.html The brand listed here is a good one, one that I have used myself, but there are many others available here and most are one third to half the price you mentioned. I have found that everything I use is much, much cheaper here. And I'm referring to name brands, not mystery brands. >I stopped ALA when I started cinnamon. I have to say I never noticed much difference with the ALA and EPO combination, anyway, so it was easy to decide to stop them.< I have stopped ALA from time to time, but I find that the (minor) neuropathy in my feet is a lot more noticeable when I stop. So I know it's doing something beneficial. However, I never expected it to lower my bgs, so I wasn't disappointed when it didn't. >The cinnamon I saw a difference right away.< Would you mind letting me know what results you are getting and how much you are taking? I'd like to lower my fasting bgs since they are usually the highest numbers I see. Thanks, Dianne __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 At 04:12 PM 10/14/05, Kore wrote: > >it seems to run nearly $50 a bottle wherever I've looked< > >Ouch! I don't know where you are looking, but at iherb.com, a month's >supply is >$18.50. BTW, if you spend $20 here, shipping there is free. > >http://store.yahoo.com/iherb/nattokinase3.html I'll go look again. I thought I'd checked iHerb.... > >The cinnamon I saw a difference right away.< > >Would you mind letting me know what results you are getting and how much you >are taking? I'd like to lower my fasting bgs since they are usually the >highest >numbers I see. It's been some time but I think I started seeing morning readings 8-10 points lower than they had been. I take a 500mg tablet four times a day. I've been wondering how the liquid extracts compare, because they're not supposed to have the stuff in cinnamon that can cause problems (in huge amounts). I can't find where X grams of the liquid extract equals X grams of the solid stuff. sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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