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It is common to feel hungry in the middle of the night and in

between meals after going GF at first. If the gluten was the

problem, you weren't absorbing the nutrients needed. Now that your

gut is healing, its absorbing nutrients. You're body realizes this

and is trying hard to absorb everything it needs and quickly. Its

basically replenishing its stores. Once you get back to where you

should be, the hunger should subside.

Try and have a bedtime snack to help prevent the " midnight "

snacking. Ice cream is my favorite bedtime snack. And snack often

throughout the day.

~ in NH

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

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It is common to feel hungry in the middle of the night and in

between meals after going GF at first. If the gluten was the

problem, you weren't absorbing the nutrients needed. Now that your

gut is healing, its absorbing nutrients. You're body realizes this

and is trying hard to absorb everything it needs and quickly. Its

basically replenishing its stores. Once you get back to where you

should be, the hunger should subside.

Try and have a bedtime snack to help prevent the " midnight "

snacking. Ice cream is my favorite bedtime snack. And snack often

throughout the day.

~ in NH

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

>

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It is common to feel hungry in the middle of the night and in

between meals after going GF at first. If the gluten was the

problem, you weren't absorbing the nutrients needed. Now that your

gut is healing, its absorbing nutrients. You're body realizes this

and is trying hard to absorb everything it needs and quickly. Its

basically replenishing its stores. Once you get back to where you

should be, the hunger should subside.

Try and have a bedtime snack to help prevent the " midnight "

snacking. Ice cream is my favorite bedtime snack. And snack often

throughout the day.

~ in NH

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

>

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My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before

bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She

says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She

is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5 " ). I've been thinking of

leaving some milk in a " chill cup " and some sort of snack for her to

eat at night if she wakes up.

Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can

tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY

doesn't begin to describe it! It's, " How fast can you get me the

milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????! "

Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

>

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My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before

bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She

says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She

is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5 " ). I've been thinking of

leaving some milk in a " chill cup " and some sort of snack for her to

eat at night if she wakes up.

Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can

tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY

doesn't begin to describe it! It's, " How fast can you get me the

milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????! "

Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

>

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My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before

bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She

says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She

is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5 " ). I've been thinking of

leaving some milk in a " chill cup " and some sort of snack for her to

eat at night if she wakes up.

Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can

tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY

doesn't begin to describe it! It's, " How fast can you get me the

milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????! "

Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel

>

> Hi SillyYaks--

>

> What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

I'm having major health issues,

> and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

thing. I have malabsorption and

> I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

stop eating gluten I find that I

> get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

to feel starved. Since I'm so

> underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

experience? Should I mush on and

> assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

is this a sign that I'm really

> not getting enough to eat?

>

> Any input will be gratefully received!

>

> Molly

>

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I swore I'd never give unsolicited parenting advice, bc as a parent myself I HATE that, but please reconsider the milk at night thing. It's horrible for your daughters teeth...and I say this from experience. My mom did the same thing with me, and I ended up having a mouth full of cavities and fillings before my 5th birthday!! Literally. I had so many they completely knocked me out with "the gas" and just did it that way (of course, this was 1975ish....) The good news, though, is that I have had only 1-2 cavities since!!

As for hunger, my son was ravenous his first month or so of going GF. And of course now that he's growing he gets "bursts" of not being able to be filled up still. I think this is probably pretty normal, maybe bc your body is healing and feels like eating/catching up again!?

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Laurel SSent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:06 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: hunger

My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5"). I've been thinking of leaving some milk in a "chill cup" and some sort of snack for her to eat at night if she wakes up.Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY doesn't begin to describe it! It's, "How fast can you get me the milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????!"Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel>> Hi SillyYaks--> > What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, > and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and > I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I > get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so > underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and > assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really > not getting enough to eat?> > Any input will be gratefully received!> > Molly>

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I swore I'd never give unsolicited parenting advice, bc as a parent myself I HATE that, but please reconsider the milk at night thing. It's horrible for your daughters teeth...and I say this from experience. My mom did the same thing with me, and I ended up having a mouth full of cavities and fillings before my 5th birthday!! Literally. I had so many they completely knocked me out with "the gas" and just did it that way (of course, this was 1975ish....) The good news, though, is that I have had only 1-2 cavities since!!

As for hunger, my son was ravenous his first month or so of going GF. And of course now that he's growing he gets "bursts" of not being able to be filled up still. I think this is probably pretty normal, maybe bc your body is healing and feels like eating/catching up again!?

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Laurel SSent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:06 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: hunger

My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5"). I've been thinking of leaving some milk in a "chill cup" and some sort of snack for her to eat at night if she wakes up.Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY doesn't begin to describe it! It's, "How fast can you get me the milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????!"Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel>> Hi SillyYaks--> > What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, > and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and > I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I > get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so > underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and > assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really > not getting enough to eat?> > Any input will be gratefully received!> > Molly>

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I swore I'd never give unsolicited parenting advice, bc as a parent myself I HATE that, but please reconsider the milk at night thing. It's horrible for your daughters teeth...and I say this from experience. My mom did the same thing with me, and I ended up having a mouth full of cavities and fillings before my 5th birthday!! Literally. I had so many they completely knocked me out with "the gas" and just did it that way (of course, this was 1975ish....) The good news, though, is that I have had only 1-2 cavities since!!

As for hunger, my son was ravenous his first month or so of going GF. And of course now that he's growing he gets "bursts" of not being able to be filled up still. I think this is probably pretty normal, maybe bc your body is healing and feels like eating/catching up again!?

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Laurel SSent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:06 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: hunger

My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5"). I've been thinking of leaving some milk in a "chill cup" and some sort of snack for her to eat at night if she wakes up.Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY doesn't begin to describe it! It's, "How fast can you get me the milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????!"Interesting to hear the adult's side of things! Laurel>> Hi SillyYaks--> > What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, > and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and > I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I > get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so > underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and > assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really > not getting enough to eat?> > Any input will be gratefully received!> > Molly>

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When I starting eating only gluten free meals, I had more belly pain and discomfort than I had before. This is at least partly due to being afraid to eat the wrong things. When I realized that, I ate, and felt better. The problem was that I didn't know if I was eating the wrong thing or not enough.

Even 2 1/2 years later, there are times when I don't eat enough and eating helps. I find that I eat more frequently than I did in the past.

So, I would suggest that you find something that works for you - ice cream, fruit, popcorn, chips, and eat that when you feel hungry. You might also have a snack before you go out to eat since by the time your food arrives, others will have eaten bread.

Also, it may take time for your gut to heal. You may consider taking a "lactaid" or equivalent when having milk products until that happens.

Good luck! You will discover "your comfort zone".

Randy

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Hi SillyYaks--What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really not getting enough to eat?Any input will be gratefully received!Molly

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When I starting eating only gluten free meals, I had more belly pain and discomfort than I had before. This is at least partly due to being afraid to eat the wrong things. When I realized that, I ate, and felt better. The problem was that I didn't know if I was eating the wrong thing or not enough.

Even 2 1/2 years later, there are times when I don't eat enough and eating helps. I find that I eat more frequently than I did in the past.

So, I would suggest that you find something that works for you - ice cream, fruit, popcorn, chips, and eat that when you feel hungry. You might also have a snack before you go out to eat since by the time your food arrives, others will have eaten bread.

Also, it may take time for your gut to heal. You may consider taking a "lactaid" or equivalent when having milk products until that happens.

Good luck! You will discover "your comfort zone".

Randy

hunger

Hi SillyYaks--What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really not getting enough to eat?Any input will be gratefully received!Molly

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When I starting eating only gluten free meals, I had more belly pain and discomfort than I had before. This is at least partly due to being afraid to eat the wrong things. When I realized that, I ate, and felt better. The problem was that I didn't know if I was eating the wrong thing or not enough.

Even 2 1/2 years later, there are times when I don't eat enough and eating helps. I find that I eat more frequently than I did in the past.

So, I would suggest that you find something that works for you - ice cream, fruit, popcorn, chips, and eat that when you feel hungry. You might also have a snack before you go out to eat since by the time your food arrives, others will have eaten bread.

Also, it may take time for your gut to heal. You may consider taking a "lactaid" or equivalent when having milk products until that happens.

Good luck! You will discover "your comfort zone".

Randy

hunger

Hi SillyYaks--What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but I'm having major health issues, and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the thing. I have malabsorption and I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I stop eating gluten I find that I get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start to feel starved. Since I'm so underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common experience? Should I mush on and assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or is this a sign that I'm really not getting enough to eat?Any input will be gratefully received!Molly

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To both Molly and Laurel,

The type of food you eat can have a big effect on how soon you feel

hunger. Many folks seem to eat simple carbs at bedtime, and they

digest quickly. Try a protein or complex starch instead - it may keep

you satisfied longer.

For a young child, maybe a Pediasure (check w/ your Pedi first)

instead of milk would be more satisfying? Maybe a snack of cheese,

nuts, hardboiled egg slices, cold cuts + crackers would help? I also

second the notion of not letting a child have milk at their bedside -

celiac kids have enough trouble with their teeth (4 crowns, 3 root

canals and 2 fillings at age 4 for my son - NOT due to lack of dental

care and regular brushing!)

You might also think about leaving out something Gabby can help

herself to in the morning if she gets up before you do. For a while, I

had to leave my son a sippy cup with milk in the fridge and dry cereal

in a covered bowl because he was waking up well before his (and our)

usual rising time and would be just ravenous and cranky. It worked

better for all us if he could just go EAT and not have to wait for Mom

or Dad to turn their brains on.

My personal favorite bedtime snack used to be oat cereal with berries

and nuts, but I can't find a GF cereal that is good enough to eat at

bedtime.

Maureen

> >

> > Hi SillyYaks--

> >

> > What a great name! I don't know that I'm gluten sensitive, but

> I'm having major health issues,

> > and I figure it doesn't hurt to try cutting gluten. Here's the

> thing. I have malabsorption and

> > I'm super underweight despite a robust intake of food. When I

> stop eating gluten I find that I

> > get really hungry between meals and during the night and I start

> to feel starved. Since I'm so

> > underweight this is concerning to me. Is this a common

> experience? Should I mush on and

> > assume that as my gut gets in better shape I'll put weight on, or

> is this a sign that I'm really

> > not getting enough to eat?

> >

> > Any input will be gratefully received!

> >

> > Molly

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>> My 3.5 year old daughter has been requesting glasses of milk before

>> bed & just after going to bed since going gf.(7 weeks today) She

>> says she's hungry too! We do CONSTANT snacking during the day. She

>> is SEVERELY underweight (19-20 pounds, 33.5 " ). I've been thinking

>> of leaving some milk in a " chill cup " and some sort of snack for

>> her to eat at night if she wakes up.

>>

>> Gabby will NEVER wake us up to say she's awake & hungry, but you can

>> tell the mornings after she's been awake half the night! HUNGRY

>> doesn't begin to describe it! It's, " How fast can you get me the

>> milk, juice, yogurt & bread, Mom????! "

====================

this happens to my children as well.

I feed them protein and a crunchy vegetable before bedtime. It's

generally some Dr Praeger's GF fishies, some left over protein from

dinner or a hard boiled egg and a carrot. Or I give them some celery

filled with peanut butter.

Every night before I go to bed I put tubs of cut fruit and boiled

eggs in the fridge and and they know that they can eat that if they

get hungry. I also peel a carrot and wrap it up in wax paper and fill

a bottle with ice and put those next to their beds.

Shez

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I did find that we had to balance our daughter's meals and snacks out to the

point she was not always " grazing " but actually did eat. We had to get to

the balance of offering food when she was hungry but also making it a point

to feed her meals and have her hungry for them too. The great balancing

act.

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Hi,

When I was first diagnosed and trying to figure out how and what to

eat, I felt like I was hungry ALL THE TIME. I increased my protein

intake (mostly by stashing jars of peanut butter at the office and my

desk at home and keeping a can of nuts by the bed). I also started

eating more salads because I got to chew for more time than eating a

bunless burger allows. If we don't chew enough or eat long enough, our

brain doesn't know to send the " all full " signal. It is about 20 minutes.

It has been almost 3 years and I still need to eat about 4-5 times a

day but I am not eating entire meals all 5 times. I think that part of

it was that once my body realized that it was getting the extra

nutrition, it went into overdrive to make up for lost time.

I still crave fats since they are what makes a person feel full but I

am also about 15-20 lbs above the weight I want to be. If I always

feed the crave, that is going to increase. It is a balancing act to

maintain enough of the " Stick with you food " to function and be

healthy and not so much that it is still sticking a week later! :)

For the next few weeks to months, always have a stash of food with

you. There are some seseme pretzel rings that are reasonably tasty. PB

and a spoon is always safe and doesn't need to be refridgerated.

Cheese sticks are portable but do need a fridge. Larabar snacks are a

bit pricy but both tasty and dense enough to stave off hunger for a

while and they are GF.

Good luck.

Becky

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Becky--

Thank you for this interesting insight. My daughter now chews &

swallows " normally " most of the time but for the first year of having

her home, she put the food in her mouth & sucked/chewed/sucked before

we FORCED her to spit out or swallow. I am guessing this was her way of

getting to the 20 minute-mark for the " all full " to kick in!

Gabby was 25 months at adoption & never had any full meals till she

came to us. Her birthmom never had enough food and in the orphanage,

breakfast was kefir (thinned--nasty smelling--yogurt) and cold,

unsweetened tea. Lunch and dinner were a small cup of soup (usually

veggie), slice of bread and cold unsweetened tea. I can see why she

would hold & suck the food...just to have something to save & eat when

you want! But I never thought about the 20-minute " all full " thing.

Makes sense! Thanks! Laurel

>

> Hi,

>

I also started

> eating more salads because I got to chew for more time than eating a

> bunless burger allows. If we don't chew enough or eat long enough, our

> brain doesn't know to send the " all full " signal. It is about 20

minutes.

>

>

> Good luck.

>

> Becky

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> Are they both GF?

>

>

> > The Lifeway and Helios brands are very, very good.

I haven't come across any kefir that wasn't GF yet, but it is

possible. However, some kefir contains this vile substance called

INULIN - which the company claims to be a form of dietary fiber but we

find acts like a very harsh laxative. I think Lifeway might be the one

kefir I can still buy without inulin.

Maureen

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Sorry--didn't mean to offend! Kind-of like the lima bean issue; either

you like it or you don't! Gabby obviously liked/tolerated it! She does

LOVE sour stuff...lemons, pickles, vinegar, but cruiously can't stand

mustard! She loves spicy stuff too...so it's not the heat! Adopted

brother, Duncan also loves sour stuff. Must be in-born cuz he was only

8.5 months at adoption from Russia...not into the Kefir yet!

Sorry! Laurel

>

> While it's certainly not *enough* for breakfast, kefir is very

> nutritious and tasty. Keep in mind that Russians tend to favor a

> more sour diet than we do. If you think kefir is nasty, try kvass

> (not safe for CD, mind). And then if you think *that* is nasty, go

> for some kumiss. ;)

>> I make kefir at home. I like to mix fresh kefir with OJ and a dash

> of vanilla for an orangesicle type shake.

>

> ygg

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> Are they both GF?

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I don't know because we got the dairy allergy news at the same time

as the celiac dx so I never investigated it.

here is the website for Helios

http://www.heliosnutrition.com/html/kefir1.html

Website for starter culture and lots of info on kefir

http://www.kefir.net/

Lifeway's website

http://www.lifeway.net/faq.php

Shez

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> Are they both GF?

>

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I don't know because we got the dairy allergy news at the same time

as the celiac dx so I never investigated it.

here is the website for Helios

http://www.heliosnutrition.com/html/kefir1.html

Website for starter culture and lots of info on kefir

http://www.kefir.net/

Lifeway's website

http://www.lifeway.net/faq.php

Shez

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> Are they both GF?

>

========

I don't know because we got the dairy allergy news at the same time

as the celiac dx so I never investigated it.

here is the website for Helios

http://www.heliosnutrition.com/html/kefir1.html

Website for starter culture and lots of info on kefir

http://www.kefir.net/

Lifeway's website

http://www.lifeway.net/faq.php

Shez

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