Re: New WW Program Details?

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting this. It's a lot more thorough than the one I had posted

earlier.

Wow...it's seems like it would be hard to lose weight doing the Core

Program...BUT I'm sure I eat A LOT more of the non-Core foods than I realize.

Maybe I'll try it out once I get closer to goal and I'm not so terrified of the

scale going up by 2/10th's of a pound. =)

166/152.6/130 (ATH 175)

New WW Program Details?

>

>

> I got this off of another site. I have no

> idea of where it came from or if it's accurate,

> but I know we've all been going nuts thinking

> about the changes coming up (due to be

> announced at meetings the week of August22),

> so thought I would post it here for all to see.

> Should be interesting....

>

>

>

> There are now two options. The Flex Plan as we know it, and the

> new

> option is called the Core Plan. That is the one that you don't

> need

> to journal or track points. You just eat certain foods from food

> groups. Still the same 5 fruits and veggies, still the same water,

> still the same dairy servings, and still the same vitamins.

>

> The foods in the Core Program are:

>

> Whole wheat pasta

> brown rice

> no sugar added cereals

> soups (non creamy)

>

> You also have 35 flex points if you want to use them for foods

> that

> are NOT on the Core Program list.

>

> The following items are No Count Foods. If you don't see a

> specific

> food on the No Count Food List, it's not allowed as a No Count

> Food.

> If in doubt, leave it out. NO EXCEPTIONS!

>

> This works by limiting food choices. Whenever you want to step

> outside the No Count Foods, you must make a choice - use your Flex

> Points Allowance (at its full POINTS value) or don't eat it. For

> example, fat-free Cheddar cheese is a No Count Food. Opt for an

> ounce of regular Cheddar and it carries a POINTS value of 3. The

> same goes for any food combinations or recipes you make. A cup of

> chili from your favorite eatery has a POINTS value of 8.

>

> When combining foods, to consider the finished product a No Count

> Food, all foods on the No Count Food List must be combined only

> with

> other foods on the List. If any other food is used, the entire

> product should be counted within your Flex Points Allowance.

>

> Meats - Beef, Lamb, Pork, and Veal

> Choose visibly lean cuts and trim any excess fat.

>

> Beef

> Bottom and top round roast

> Bottom and top sirloin steak

> Eye round roast

> Flank steak

> Organ meats

> Round steak

> Round tip steak and roast

> Sirloin steak

> T-bone steak

> Tenderloin roast and steak

> Top loin steak

> Top sirloin roast

> Ground Meat

> Any type, 7% fat or less

> Lamb

> Leg roast

> Loin chop or roast

> Organ meats

> Sirloin chop

> Pork

> Canadian-style bacon

> Ham

> Loin chop or roast

> Organ meats

> Sirloin chop

> Sirloin cutlet

> Tenderloin roast

> Veal

> Cutlet

> Loin chop or roast

> Organ meats

> Round steak

> Sirloin steak

>

> Poultry - Limited to Chicken and Turkey

> Trim any visible fat before preparing and remove the skin before

> eating.

>

> Chicken

> Fresh, frozen, or canned

> Ground poultry

> Chicken or turkey only, lean or extra-lean

> Turkey

> Fresh, frozen, or canned

>

> Fish and Shellfish

> Canned varieties must be packed in water, broth, or tomato juice

> (not oil).

>

> Fresh, frozen, or canned, any variety

> Meat Substitutes

> Dried beans and lentils

> Tofu, any type

> Vegetarian burger, fat-free, frozen

> Eggs and Dairy Products

>

> Egg and Egg Substitutes

> Egg, whole

> Egg substitutes

> Egg whites

>

> Dairy Products

> For items marked with an asterisk (*), 1 cup counts as 1 serving

> milk product.

>

> Cheese, fat-free

> Coffee creamers, fat-free

> Cottage cheese, fat-free or 1% fat

> Cream cheese, fat-free

> Dairy shake, reduced calorie*

> Milk, fat-free or 1%

> Pudding, fat-and sugar free*

> Sour cream, fat-free

> Yogurt, fat-free or 1% fat, plain or artificially sweetened

> flavored*

> Weight Watchers Smoothies

> Diary Substitutes

> Soy cheese, fat-free

> Soy milk, fat-free

> Soy yogurt, plain

>

> Grains, Cereals, and Starches

> Refer to other page for an explanation of what qualifies as a

> wholegrain food.

>

> Grains

> Barley

> Buckwheat

> Bulgur

> Cornmeal (polenta)

> Couscous (semolina)

> Kasha

> Popcorn, air-popped or 94% fat-free microwave-popcorn

> Quinoa

> Rolled oats

> Rye

>

> Cereals

> Ready-to-eat cereals cannot be frosted or sugar-coated, must be

> eaten with milk or yogurt, and are limited to one meal a day.

>

> Cooked (hot), any whole-grain variety

> Ready-to-eat (cold), any whole-grain variety

>

> Starches

> Macaroni, any type

> Noodles, egg

> Pasta, any type

> Rice, any type

> Spaghetti, any type

> Starchy vegetables (e.g., all potatoes, peas, corn)

>

> Fruits, Vegetables, and Soups

>

> Fruit

> Canned fruit must be packed in water or juice (not syrup) and

> drained before eating (e.g., unsweetened apple-sauce is allowed

> but

> sweetened applesauce is not).

>

> Fresh, frozen, or canned, any variety (Note: fruit juices are not

> allowed)

>

> Vegetables

> Vegetables cannot contain ingredients that are not on the No Count

> Food List (e.g., regular refried beans, pork & beans, corn in

> butter

> sauce, dried tomatoes packed in oil, French fries, and sweet

> pickles

> are not allowed).

>

> Fresh, frozen, canned, or dried, any variety including white and

> sweet potatoes; dried beans and lentils; and tomato paste, puree,

> and sauce (Note: Vegetable juices are not allowed)

>

> Soups

> Choose fresh, canned, frozen, or homemade soups made only with

> NoCount Foods.

>

> Bean soup

> Bouillon

> Broth-based soup

> Tomato soup

>

> Beverages, Fats, and Condiments

>

> Beverages

> Beverages containing alcohol are not allowed.

>

> Club soda

> Coffee, black, without sugar

> Hot cocoa, instant, sugar-and fat-free

> Seltzer, plain or flavored, unsweetened

> Soft drink, diet

> Tea, without sugar

> Water or mineral water

>

> Fats

> Margarine, fat-free

> Mayonnaise, fat-free

> Salad dressings, fat-free

>

> Condiments

> Baking powder

> Baking soda

> Capers

> Cocktail sauce

> Extracts

> Flavorings

> Gelatin (unflavored and sugar-free flavored)

> Herbs

> Hot sauce (pepper sauce)

> Ketchup

> Lemon juice

> Mustard

> Nonstick cooking or baking spray

> Soy sauce (shoyu)

> Spices

> Steak sauce

> Sugar substitutes

> Taco sauce

> Teriyaki sauce

> Vinegar

> Worcestershire sauce

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just my 2 cents...I know I am new to WW and all that...but to me, this seems

like it might work best for people already pretty involved in WW . It just

seems too complicated and limited for " beginners " , and I know I wouldn't like

it. I enjoy food too much and like the freedom to eat within my point range

without feeling like I have to analyze deeply what is in what list here and

there!

New WW Program Details?

>

>

> I got this off of another site. I have no

> idea of where it came from or if it's accurate,

> but I know we've all been going nuts thinking

> about the changes coming up (due to be

> announced at meetings the week of August22),

> so thought I would post it here for all to see.

> Should be interesting....

>

[Guest guest]

I think we'd have to know more about portion control etc. The list of

" accepted foods " seems pretty liberal. As I said, WW has yet to come out

with a bad program!

Sue

New WW Program Details?

>

> >

> >

> > I got this off of another site. I have no

> > idea of where it came from or if it's accurate,

> > but I know we've all been going nuts thinking

> > about the changes coming up (due to be

> > announced at meetings the week of August22),

> > so thought I would post it here for all to see.

> > Should be interesting....

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think it sounds great. If you think about how many things that you

eat now, that aren't on the list. These are some of mine:ice cream,

cookies, cupcakes, coffee with sugar, oatmeal with sugar, blow pops,

tea with sugar, fruit juice, vegetable juice, cream soups,etc. and I

am still losing weight, so if I cut all those thing out it might be

even better. This to me just sounds like they let you have only

healthful things, and fat free versions of healthy things.

I am going to stick to winning points right now and I think I

will do the core program when I get closer to maintaining.

262/240/140

> I think we'd have to know more about portion control etc. The list

of

> " accepted foods " seems pretty liberal. As I said, WW has yet to

come out

> with a bad program!

>

> Sue

>

> New WW Program Details?

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > I got this off of another site. I have no

> > > idea of where it came from or if it's accurate,

> > > but I know we've all been going nuts thinking

> > > about the changes coming up (due to be

> > > announced at meetings the week of August22),

> > > so thought I would post it here for all to see.

> > > Should be interesting....

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi all!

I have been on this list before, but fell WAY off the wagon. Well,

upon hearing the rumor of this new program I am heading back to

meetings! I had gotten so used to the points program that I think I

was cheating without even realizing it anymore, ya know? A big

change is just what I need! So I am definitely game for this. And

it is great because you can still eat things that aren't on the list,

you just have to count them! So, if I want to have some cake at my

kids party I can, and still eat on plan. I know you can with point

too, problem is, just like my real check book, my points balance is

almost always in the negative!! LOL!

Semalee

> > I think we'd have to know more about portion control etc. The

list

> of

> > " accepted foods " seems pretty liberal. As I said, WW has yet to

> come out

> > with a bad program!

> >

> > Sue

> > >

[Guest guest]

I think what this isn't saying (and maybe someone has already clarified

this) is that you must get only xx servings (or more like x) of each group

each day, and the serving size is dictated. Interesting idea that will work

great for some people.

> Re: New WW Program Details?

>

>

> Thanks for posting this. It's a lot more thorough than the

> one I had posted earlier.

>

> Wow...it's seems like it would be hard to lose weight doing

> the Core Program...BUT I'm sure I eat A LOT more of the

> non-Core foods than I realize. Maybe I'll try it out once I

> get closer to goal and I'm not so terrified of the scale

> going up by 2/10th's of a pound. =)

>

>

> 166/152.6/130 (ATH 175)

>

> New WW Program Details?

>

> >

> >

> > I got this off of another site. I have no

> > idea of where it came from or if it's accurate,

> > but I know we've all been going nuts thinking

> > about the changes coming up (due to be

> > announced at meetings the week of August22),

> > so thought I would post it here for all to see.

> > Should be interesting....

> >

> >

> >

> > There are now two options. The Flex Plan as we know it, and the

> > new

> > option is called the Core Plan. That is the one that you don't

> > need

> > to journal or track points. You just eat certain foods from food

> > groups. Still the same 5 fruits and veggies, still the same water,

> > still the same dairy servings, and still the same vitamins.

> >

> > The foods in the Core Program are:

> >

> > Whole wheat pasta

> > brown rice

> > no sugar added cereals

> > soups (non creamy)

> >

> > You also have 35 flex points if you want to use them for foods

> > that

> > are NOT on the Core Program list.

> >

> > The following items are No Count Foods. If you don't see a

> > specific

> > food on the No Count Food List, it's not allowed as a No Count

> > Food.

> > If in doubt, leave it out. NO EXCEPTIONS!

> >

> > This works by limiting food choices. Whenever you want to step

> > outside the No Count Foods, you must make a choice - use your Flex

> > Points Allowance (at its full POINTS value) or don't eat it. For

> > example, fat-free Cheddar cheese is a No Count Food. Opt for an

> > ounce of regular Cheddar and it carries a POINTS value of 3. The

> > same goes for any food combinations or recipes you make. A cup of

> > chili from your favorite eatery has a POINTS value of 8.

> >

> > When combining foods, to consider the finished product a No Count

> > Food, all foods on the No Count Food List must be combined only

> > with

> > other foods on the List. If any other food is used, the entire

> > product should be counted within your Flex Points Allowance.

> >

> > Meats - Beef, Lamb, Pork, and Veal

> > Choose visibly lean cuts and trim any excess fat.

> >

> > Beef

> > Bottom and top round roast

> > Bottom and top sirloin steak

> > Eye round roast

> > Flank steak

> > Organ meats

> > Round steak

> > Round tip steak and roast

> > Sirloin steak

> > T-bone steak

> > Tenderloin roast and steak

> > Top loin steak

> > Top sirloin roast

> > Ground Meat

> > Any type, 7% fat or less

> > Lamb

> > Leg roast

> > Loin chop or roast

> > Organ meats

> > Sirloin chop

> > Pork

> > Canadian-style bacon

> > Ham

> > Loin chop or roast

> > Organ meats

> > Sirloin chop

> > Sirloin cutlet

> > Tenderloin roast

> > Veal

> > Cutlet

> > Loin chop or roast

> > Organ meats

> > Round steak

> > Sirloin steak

> >

> > Poultry - Limited to Chicken and Turkey

> > Trim any visible fat before preparing and remove the skin before

> > eating.

> >

> > Chicken

> > Fresh, frozen, or canned

> > Ground poultry

> > Chicken or turkey only, lean or extra-lean

> > Turkey

> > Fresh, frozen, or canned

> >

> > Fish and Shellfish

> > Canned varieties must be packed in water, broth, or tomato juice

> > (not oil).

> >

> > Fresh, frozen, or canned, any variety

> > Meat Substitutes

> > Dried beans and lentils

> > Tofu, any type

> > Vegetarian burger, fat-free, frozen

> > Eggs and Dairy Products

> >

> > Egg and Egg Substitutes

> > Egg, whole

> > Egg substitutes

> > Egg whites

> >

> > Dairy Products

> > For items marked with an asterisk (*), 1 cup counts as 1 serving

> > milk product.

> >

> > Cheese, fat-free

> > Coffee creamers, fat-free

> > Cottage cheese, fat-free or 1% fat

> > Cream cheese, fat-free

> > Dairy shake, reduced calorie*

> > Milk, fat-free or 1%

> > Pudding, fat-and sugar free*

> > Sour cream, fat-free

> > Yogurt, fat-free or 1% fat, plain or artificially sweetened

> > flavored*

> > Weight Watchers Smoothies

> > Diary Substitutes

> > Soy cheese, fat-free

> > Soy milk, fat-free

> > Soy yogurt, plain

> >

> > Grains, Cereals, and Starches

> > Refer to other page for an explanation of what qualifies as a

> > wholegrain food.

> >

> > Grains

> > Barley

> > Buckwheat

> > Bulgur

> > Cornmeal (polenta)

> > Couscous (semolina)

> > Kasha

> > Popcorn, air-popped or 94% fat-free microwave-popcorn

> > Quinoa

> > Rolled oats

> > Rye

> >

> > Cereals

> > Ready-to-eat cereals cannot be frosted or sugar-coated, must be

> > eaten with milk or yogurt, and are limited to one meal a day.

> >

> > Cooked (hot), any whole-grain variety

> > Ready-to-eat (cold), any whole-grain variety

> >

> > Starches

> > Macaroni, any type

> > Noodles, egg

> > Pasta, any type

> > Rice, any type

> > Spaghetti, any type

> > Starchy vegetables (e.g., all potatoes, peas, corn)

> >

> > Fruits, Vegetables, and Soups

> >

> > Fruit

> > Canned fruit must be packed in water or juice (not syrup) and

> > drained before eating (e.g., unsweetened apple-sauce is allowed

> > but

> > sweetened applesauce is not).

> >

> > Fresh, frozen, or canned, any variety (Note: fruit juices are not

> > allowed)

> >

> > Vegetables

> > Vegetables cannot contain ingredients that are not on the No Count

> > Food List (e.g., regular refried beans, pork & beans, corn in

> > butter

> > sauce, dried tomatoes packed in oil, French fries, and sweet

> > pickles

> > are not allowed).

> >

> > Fresh, frozen, canned, or dried, any variety including white and

> > sweet potatoes; dried beans and lentils; and tomato paste, puree,

> > and sauce (Note: Vegetable juices are not allowed)

> >

> > Soups

> > Choose fresh, canned, frozen, or homemade soups made only with

> > NoCount Foods.

> >

> > Bean soup

> > Bouillon

> > Broth-based soup

> > Tomato soup

> >

> > Beverages, Fats, and Condiments

> >

> > Beverages

> > Beverages containing alcohol are not allowed.

> >

> > Club soda

> > Coffee, black, without sugar

> > Hot cocoa, instant, sugar-and fat-free

> > Seltzer, plain or flavored, unsweetened

> > Soft drink, diet

> > Tea, without sugar

> > Water or mineral water

> >

> > Fats

> > Margarine, fat-free

> > Mayonnaise, fat-free

> > Salad dressings, fat-free

> >

> > Condiments

> > Baking powder

> > Baking soda

> > Capers

> > Cocktail sauce

> > Extracts

> > Flavorings

> > Gelatin (unflavored and sugar-free flavored)

> > Herbs

> > Hot sauce (pepper sauce)

> > Ketchup

> > Lemon juice

> > Mustard

> > Nonstick cooking or baking spray

> > Soy sauce (shoyu)

> > Spices

> > Steak sauce

> > Sugar substitutes

> > Taco sauce

> > Teriyaki sauce

> > Vinegar

> > Worcestershire sauce

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >