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Verl there is all sorts of information in the files and links section

of this site - you will find information on doctors (Europe and US and

Australia and Canada) and the different devices. There is more

information there than anywhere else .... our doctor in Canada said we

actually knew more about resurfacing than he did by the time we saw him!!!

Good luck - you will be able to ride again.

Pamela

> I am a 59 year old coach and I am in pretty good shape except for

> two worn out hips. I am researching hip resurfacing. I e-mailed a

> couple of folks about hip resurfacing and it sound as if Belgium or

> English is the place to get hip resurfacing done. If you are from

> the US can you get your insurance to cover the cost? I have Blue

> Cross/Blue Shield. Is there any place in the US that does hip

> resurfacing and is the resurfacing as good as the ones overseas?

> Would like to keep Elk hunting and riding my horses. Riding my

> horse gives me the most trouble. Thanks Verl

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Check out this link to a Blue Cross sight discussing hip resurfacing.

http://www.regence.com/trgmedpol/surgery/sur113.html

I had my hip resurfaced 5 weeks ago and my insurance paid for it. You

may want to go to www.wmt.com Medical Technolgy and you can do a

search for physicians in your area who are doing hip resurfacing using

the " Conserve " which is their hardware.

> I am a 59 year old coach and I am in pretty good shape except for

> two worn out hips. I am researching hip resurfacing.  I e-mailed a

> couple of folks about hip resurfacing and it sound as if Belgium or

> English is the place to get hip resurfacing done.  If you are from

> the US can you get your insurance to cover the cost?  I have Blue

> Cross/Blue Shield.  Is there any place in the US that does hip

> resurfacing and is the resurfacing as good as the ones overseas? 

> Would like to keep Elk hunting and riding my horses.  Riding my

> horse gives me the most trouble.  Thanks  Verl

>

>

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Check out this link to a Blue Cross sight discussing hip resurfacing.

http://www.regence.com/trgmedpol/surgery/sur113.html

I had my hip resurfaced 5 weeks ago and my insurance paid for it. You

may want to go to www.wmt.com Medical Technolgy and you can do a

search for physicians in your area who are doing hip resurfacing using

the " Conserve " which is their hardware.

> I am a 59 year old coach and I am in pretty good shape except for

> two worn out hips. I am researching hip resurfacing.  I e-mailed a

> couple of folks about hip resurfacing and it sound as if Belgium or

> English is the place to get hip resurfacing done.  If you are from

> the US can you get your insurance to cover the cost?  I have Blue

> Cross/Blue Shield.  Is there any place in the US that does hip

> resurfacing and is the resurfacing as good as the ones overseas? 

> Would like to keep Elk hunting and riding my horses.  Riding my

> horse gives me the most trouble.  Thanks  Verl

>

>

>

>

>

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Check out this link to a Blue Cross sight discussing hip resurfacing.

http://www.regence.com/trgmedpol/surgery/sur113.html

I had my hip resurfaced 5 weeks ago and my insurance paid for it. You

may want to go to www.wmt.com Medical Technolgy and you can do a

search for physicians in your area who are doing hip resurfacing using

the " Conserve " which is their hardware.

> I am a 59 year old coach and I am in pretty good shape except for

> two worn out hips. I am researching hip resurfacing.  I e-mailed a

> couple of folks about hip resurfacing and it sound as if Belgium or

> English is the place to get hip resurfacing done.  If you are from

> the US can you get your insurance to cover the cost?  I have Blue

> Cross/Blue Shield.  Is there any place in the US that does hip

> resurfacing and is the resurfacing as good as the ones overseas? 

> Would like to keep Elk hunting and riding my horses.  Riding my

> horse gives me the most trouble.  Thanks  Verl

>

>

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Hi,

If you take a look not far back into the archives you will find reference

to an Indian Surgeon..... Someone posted only a few weeks back about their

great experience flying to India and having him do their hip

resurface........ I have no idea what part of India he practices

in.......... but he is the only one I have seen reference too here as far as

experience goes......

If you want more specific information you will have to contact the various

manufacturers Corin and Birmingham via their web sites and ask for a list of

surgeons they supply their prothesis too in your area.......

These coys will happily supply these.........

Edith

> My name is Rajkamal.

> I have severe pain in my right hip.

> Doctor says:

> advanced degenerative arthritis with extensive osteophytic formation

> and flattening of the femoral head. Some changes in the bone

> consistent with possible AVN old.

> Flexion contracture of right hip of 30 degree. Zero internal

> rotation. External rotation of 5 degree. Can flrx hip only to 70

> degree. Athrophy in the quads muscle.

>

> Doctors says I have to go for surger immediataely. After opening only

> the doctor will take decision whether to do resurfacing or total hip

> replacement.

>

> Please help me by referring if you know any doctors doing this

> surgery in Jaipur,India.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Rajkamal Sharma

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G'day Rajkamal,

I know our two countries are at war on the cricket field but I

thought I'd be helpful, this is the contact details for Dr.Bose in

Chennai. apparently he is the man in India for BHR.

Dr. Vijay C. Bose

Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon

BHR Regional centre-India

Apollo Speciality Hospital

320 Mount Road

Chennai 600035. INDIA

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P.S. Wait to McGrath, Lee, and Warne are back!!!!

> My name is Rajkamal.

> I have severe pain in my right hip.

> Doctor says:

> advanced degenerative arthritis with extensive osteophytic

formation

> and flattening of the femoral head. Some changes in the bone

> consistent with possible AVN old.

> Flexion contracture of right hip of 30 degree. Zero internal

> rotation. External rotation of 5 degree. Can flrx hip only to 70

> degree. Athrophy in the quads muscle.

>

> Doctors says I have to go for surger immediataely. After opening

only

> the doctor will take decision whether to do resurfacing or total

hip

> replacement.

>

> Please help me by referring if you know any doctors doing this

> surgery in Jaipur,India.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Rajkamal Sharma

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We have heard some good reports on Dr. Vijay C. Bose of the Apollo

speciality Hospitals-Chennai, India. I have no idea how far that is

from your place. He is personally trained by McMinn and has also

very good contacts with Dr.DeSmet. See also

www.hipresurfacingindia.com

An experienced resurfacing doc can say in the majority of the cases

from x-rays whether you are a good resurfacing candidate or not.

If he can't, either you are a difficult case, or he is missing the

experience. If the femoral head is flatten, it shouldn't be a

problem for resurfacing. If the head is collapsed, then it will be

hard to do a resurface job.

Success,

> My name is Rajkamal.

> I have severe pain in my right hip.

> Doctor says:

> advanced degenerative arthritis with extensive osteophytic

formation

> and flattening of the femoral head. Some changes in the bone

> consistent with possible AVN old.

> Flexion contracture of right hip of 30 degree. Zero internal

> rotation. External rotation of 5 degree. Can flrx hip only to 70

> degree. Athrophy in the quads muscle.

>

> Doctors says I have to go for surger immediataely. After opening

only

> the doctor will take decision whether to do resurfacing or total

hip

> replacement.

>

> Please help me by referring if you know any doctors doing this

> surgery in Jaipur,India.

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Rajkamal Sharma

//////////////////////

I had a BHR. resurfacing carried out by Dr.V. J Bose I honestly feel I could

not have chosen better surgeon, and the price was fantastic and was done exactly

when I wanted it no waiting well hardly.

The staff at Apollo Speciality Hospital Chennai India were kind and

considerate, I will be returning there soon to have surgery on my hands with no

hesitation.

C. Parry

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Does AVN continue to progress under the hip resurfacing implant? We are looking

at this procedure for our 20 year old son who has bilateral AVN from steroids 2

years ago for leukemia. His father is concerned that if the bone continues to

deteriorate, the implant will loosen, requiring more surgery. At what stage of

disease is the resurfacing done?

Thank you for your help.

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>

convential wisdom says the earlier, the better .

People w early stage I or II (where the head has not started

to collapse ) AVN are likely to have better outcomes from what i've

read .

i believe that prior to resurfacing , the dying portion

of the head can be removed and the disease does not progress

after resurfacing ....this is the optimistic view of

resurfacing for patients w AVN .

AVN does not exclude a resurface operation ,

but makes it more complicated than a resurface for simple

OArthritis.

Many others contributing to this site , can provide

better first hand knowledge of resurfacing for AVN .

Goldberg C+ , 1/28/03

Does AVN continue to progress under the hip resurfacing implant? We

are looking at this procedure for our 20 year old son who has

bilateral AVN from steroids 2 years ago for leukemia. His father is

concerned that if the bone continues to deteriorate, the implant will

loosen, requiring more surgery. At what stage of disease is the

resurfacing done?

>

> Thank you for your help.

>

>

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> I have been diagnosed with the following a year ago:

>

> Right Hip: " There is quitemarked degenerative change of the hip

with

> joint space narrowing, sclerosis of the articular margins and

> subchondral cyst formation within the femoral head. A collar

> ostephytic spur is seen about the femoral head.

> Impression: Degenerative change of the right Hip

>

> My own GP here in Calgary is suggesting I may not be eligible for

hip

> resurfacing because the hip might be too damaged. I am on a

waiting

> list to see Dr. Jim McKenzie in Calgary in early 2005. I am in the

> process of geeting new xrays done for Dr. Treacy in England.

>

> I know everyone is different but has anyone had a similar diagnose

> and what does it mean. For those of you who have gone to Belgium

for

> the procedure, can you tell me approximately how much it costs to

get

> a BHR there? I am very frustrated with the whole medical system

> right now.

>

> Please help.

>

> Chris

its about the cost of buying car if you get a couple hips done

by Dr DeSmet (20-22k round trip for 2 for 10 days) try to borrow the

cash if you dont have it and make payments. Do what ever

you can to go see Koen. sell your house if you have to!

good luck, jeff bilat 1/03

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Hallo ,

i m a ORL doctor in germ.. here are 50 Kliniken in Germany where resurfacing

doing. 4-5 Kliniken are specialized. The spezialisten have 500 or 300-400

operated. It is comming in europe. More and more kliniks are for the young

people make resurfacing.

I have an accident with ski and broken the neck of hip. Now it is an AVN. i

will operating with resurfacing.

Gunnar Kroker

Re: Hip resurfacing

Hi:

I am also a radiologist and I agree with the medical comments.

However, other orthopedic surgeons in the US and elsewhere in Europe

and Australia have had excellent results. My left hip degenerated

in only three years with complete loss of cartilage. Dr. Vail had

no concern about the procedure. He told me that the principal

problem is related to the diameter of the femoral neck. It is

adequate in most men but can be difficult in small framed women who

are somewhat greater risk of post op fracture.

The main problem in the US has been insurance coverage. I had my

Surgery at Duke (Dr. Vail 3/31/03 and was home in 2 days, back to

work on day 17. Duke gave me a 15% discount for cash. I also

negotiated an an additional discount for the physician charges.

This ultimately resulted in a final cost to me of about $21,000

BUT WAIT!!!

I fought the insurance company administrator at all levels including

review by the NC insurance commissioner and LOST.

BUT WAIT!!!

They (BCBS of NC) were not the real insurer.

I made multiple complaints through my group (THE NORTH CAROLINA

MEDICAL SOCIETY) and they investigated further. Finally the

advisory board to the real insurance company agreed to cover me.

I have now been partly reimbursed through a complicated process and

ultimately my cost will be around $3-4,000). The process is still

ongoing (almost a year later).

I only traveled a 75 minute drive from my house to have the

procedure done. I'm going skiing in Colorado Feb 20th (&

celebrating my 59th birthday).

The C+ or the Cormet will probably be approved in the US in

the next year or so. Once that occurs the others will quickly be

approved and the insurance companies will pay. Canada will soon

follow.

Many insurers in the US are paying for the procedure.

Any of the orthopedists who are doing resurfacing now are

satisfactory. DeSmet is fine but he can't be the only operating

surgeon for the whole world. This procedure is not mystical. Tons

of other devices have gone through the same process and are now

routinely used everywhere.

So find a resurfacing orthopedist and go for it!

in North Carolina

> > I have been diagnosed with the following a year ago:

> >

> > Right Hip: " There is quitemarked degenerative change of the hip

with

> > joint space narrowing, sclerosis of the articular margins and

> > subchondral cyst formation within the femoral head. A collar

> > ostephytic spur is seen about the femoral head.

> > Impression: Degenerative change of the right Hip

> >

> > My own GP here in Calgary is suggesting I may not be eligible

for hip

> > resurfacing because the hip might be too damaged. I am on a

waiting

> > list to see Dr. Jim McKenzie in Calgary in early 2005. I am in

the

> > process of geeting new xrays done for Dr. Treacy in England.

> >

> > I know everyone is different but has anyone had a similar

diagnose

> > and what does it mean. For those of you who have gone to

Belgium for

> > the procedure, can you tell me approximately how much it costs

to get

> > a BHR there? I am very frustrated with the whole medical system

> > right now.

> >

> > Please help.

> >

> > Chris

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Hi ,

I'm glad to hear that your perseverence has paid off! Unfortunately

NHS systems in place elsewhere have wait lists that put outcomes at

significant risk simply thru delay. Your experience in the medical

triangle is by no means universal. My state ortho society took over a

month to even reply, then left a message to call back later when they

were less busy. My local OS group took a week to tell me they had no

idea what I was talking about. Calls regionally met with similar

results. Dr De Smet encouraged me with a personal reply to my initial

inquiry in all of 6 hours. I had similar fast responses from Australia

and the UK, but not from anyone here in the US. My bilat BHR will cost

about what your uni did, and no one at the time I did my research

would even consider doing both hips at the same time. I had an

terrific experience in Belgium, made some new friends and was again

reminded that the rest of the world is a pretty amazing place! I was

there and back in 11 days and could go back to work tomorrow, but I'll

reunite with my family awhile longer first. I'm solo, individually

insured without the protection that even small group's offer. My knee

osteotomies cost me with denials and subsequent rate hikes and my hips

will cost me even more, so much in fact that I might be better off not

even filing a claim! The insurance environment here in Iowa where IC

Corporate HQ's are plentiful and the state gets their insurance from

them may be a little less friendly than yours, or not. Your message to

" hang in there " is a most valuable one. In the here and now,

reimbursement remains a major consideration, especially before the

FDA gets around to it's eventual ruling. Clearly no one on the

decision making panel needs new hips! Your advice to get definitive

care asap is also dead on! However, I disagree emphatically that all

OS's are satisfactory or even close to the same difference. IMHO it's

most important to get hooked up with someone who has done more than

two of these on a pig! That said, your experience was obviously a good

one and should serve as a rally point for people in your area and

circumstance. Stay wary of those " look tame at the top " black diamond

trails and stay safe! Happy soon to be 59th birthday. I'll be 57 soon

after. I think we're both wearing it pretty well!

Take extremely good care!

My very best wishes,

Steve Vince

Bilat BHR De Smet Jan 6, 2004

> > > I have been diagnosed with the following a year ago:

> > >

> > > Right Hip: " There is quitemarked degenerative change of the hip

> with

> > > joint space narrowing, sclerosis of the articular margins and

> > > subchondral cyst formation within the femoral head. A collar

> > > ostephytic spur is seen about the femoral head.

> > > Impression: Degenerative change of the right Hip

> > >

> > > My own GP here in Calgary is suggesting I may not be eligible

> for hip

> > > resurfacing because the hip might be too damaged. I am on a

> waiting

> > > list to see Dr. Jim McKenzie in Calgary in early 2005. I am in

> the

> > > process of geeting new xrays done for Dr. Treacy in England.

> > >

> > > I know everyone is different but has anyone had a similar

> diagnose

> > > and what does it mean. For those of you who have gone to

> Belgium for

> > > the procedure, can you tell me approximately how much it costs

> to get

> > > a BHR there? I am very frustrated with the whole medical system

> > > right now.

> > >

> > > Please help.

> > >

> > > Chris

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this sounds almost identical to my own xray evaluation. I had my

right hip resurfaced by Dr. De Smet, with no problem at all. I had it done

for around $12,000. The six sessions of physical therapy I had here in the

states afterwards cost me more than my plane fare from San Francisco to

Brussels (and i do have health insurance, believe it or not.) I too am fed

up with the medical system here. I recommend going out of the country

unless your insurance company agrees to pay.

June

> I have been diagnosed with the following a year ago:

>

> Right Hip: " There is quitemarked degenerative change of the hip with

> joint space narrowing, sclerosis of the articular margins and

> subchondral cyst formation within the femoral head. A collar

> ostephytic spur is seen about the femoral head.

> Impression: Degenerative change of the right Hip

>

> My own GP here in Calgary is suggesting I may not be eligible for hip

> resurfacing because the hip might be too damaged. I am on a waiting

> list to see Dr. Jim McKenzie in Calgary in early 2005. I am in the

> process of geeting new xrays done for Dr. Treacy in England.

>

> I know everyone is different but has anyone had a similar diagnose

> and what does it mean. For those of you who have gone to Belgium for

> the procedure, can you tell me approximately how much it costs to get

> a BHR there? I am very frustrated with the whole medical system

> right now.

>

> Please help.

>

> Chris

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