Re: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Ah .........excuse me but I don't really appreciate being told that my

stereotyped views are offensive, if not ignorant as a blanket statement when

supposed views are not listed............ or information given about why my

particular views are stereotype etc........... In doing as you have you

yourself are simply doing what you accuse me and others of

doing............i.e. making general statements without any

evidence............

I am not an American and I have not expressed any opinions about the

'majority of Amercian OS's' here or elsewhere.

Thank you............

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> I'm sure you are a good person with good intents, but it's what I am

> sure are stereotyped views such as yours, or Edith's or Abmacdona

> (when you make the comment " a majority of American OS's " ) that are

> offensive if not ignorant. Can you, or anyone for that matter,

> please tell me how many American OS's are there? And how many people

> have posted on this site about negative experiences (maybe 100 or

> 200)? So where do you get this fact that the negaitivity comes from

> a " majority " of American OS's. OK, maybe I'm the ignorant one and

> the facts are out there - I will be happy to admit it, but please do

> provide an unbiased source for your facts.

>

[Guest guest]

Well said, Edith.

It seems to me that when the consistent experience of users of this forum

is that of encountering orthopaedic surgeons who are extremely negative towards

resurfing, then a conclusion can be extrapolated from that. To whit, that we

all should be warned that we are likely to encounter the same attitude, and that

we should not be put off by it. Forewarned is.....It certainly applied here in

Canada as well and I thank people here for preparing me for that negative

reception and to not be discouraged by it.

Sharry

RBHR De Smet 27/08/2003

Re: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

Hi,

Ah .........excuse me but I don't really appreciate being told that my

stereotyped views are offensive, if not ignorant as a blanket statement when

supposed views are not listed............ or information given about why my

particular views are stereotype etc........... In doing as you have you

yourself are simply doing what you accuse me and others of

doing............i.e. making general statements without any

evidence............

I am not an American and I have not expressed any opinions about the

'majority of Amercian OS's' here or elsewhere.

Thank you............

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> I'm sure you are a good person with good intents, but it's what I am

> sure are stereotyped views such as yours, or Edith's or Abmacdona

> (when you make the comment " a majority of American OS's " ) that are

> offensive if not ignorant. Can you, or anyone for that matter,

> please tell me how many American OS's are there? And how many people

> have posted on this site about negative experiences (maybe 100 or

> 200)? So where do you get this fact that the negaitivity comes from

> a " majority " of American OS's. OK, maybe I'm the ignorant one and

> the facts are out there - I will be happy to admit it, but please do

> provide an unbiased source for your facts.

>

[Guest guest]

I am just starting to investigate having THR. I hope I don't run into many OSs

of this type.

Carol Latta clatta@...> wrote:Yikes,

I feel every OS should stay " up " on what's happening in his chosen field. He

has the quality of each patient in his hands! I give no slack to the biased

opinions of most of our Ortho surgeons. I just emailed a very fine, head of

University Medical staff, ortho in CA. I queried him about my

father-in-law who has had two THR's and now needs another. This patient

believes whatever a Doc tells him, and has already seen this Doc for a

revision. So I was just checking to see what devices this OS uses without

using father-in-laws name.

Father-in-laws first THR (13 yrs ago) kept dislocating- replaced in 2-3 yrs

(perhaps not put in right or a bad device?) The 2nd one is now loose after

almost 10 years (osteolysis -right on time?). The patient believes " He did

too much " . He is only 68, and active in fishing, gardening, doesn't sit

around, but isn't doing marathlon running! This could be his last chance

for a revision. What device chosen for this surgery is critical to his life

quality. This influencial teaching surgeon felt my asking about the MoM THR

or a THR/poly with metal liner was " very controversal " and wouldn't discuss

it over the internet. He chooses the " standard " THR with " new poly " for a

variety of reasons.....end of story.

No consideration for the fact that this patient could be in a wheel chair

before the end of his life without a hip. This patient has proven to react

to Poly debris! A MoM device would most likely see him through the rest of

his life. He's had enough pain already! GRRRRRRR. I can't give any slack

to OSs that are not looking at the technolgy available to help their

patients!

(Don't get me started on Insurance cos!)

Whew Thanks for letting me blow steam!!!!!

Carol in CA RBHR DeSmet 10-22-13

>

> Subject: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

I am just starting to investigate having THR. I hope I don't run into many OSs

of this type.

Carol Latta clatta@...> wrote:Yikes,

I feel every OS should stay " up " on what's happening in his chosen field. He

has the quality of each patient in his hands! I give no slack to the biased

opinions of most of our Ortho surgeons. I just emailed a very fine, head of

University Medical staff, ortho in CA. I queried him about my

father-in-law who has had two THR's and now needs another. This patient

believes whatever a Doc tells him, and has already seen this Doc for a

revision. So I was just checking to see what devices this OS uses without

using father-in-laws name.

Father-in-laws first THR (13 yrs ago) kept dislocating- replaced in 2-3 yrs

(perhaps not put in right or a bad device?) The 2nd one is now loose after

almost 10 years (osteolysis -right on time?). The patient believes " He did

too much " . He is only 68, and active in fishing, gardening, doesn't sit

around, but isn't doing marathlon running! This could be his last chance

for a revision. What device chosen for this surgery is critical to his life

quality. This influencial teaching surgeon felt my asking about the MoM THR

or a THR/poly with metal liner was " very controversal " and wouldn't discuss

it over the internet. He chooses the " standard " THR with " new poly " for a

variety of reasons.....end of story.

No consideration for the fact that this patient could be in a wheel chair

before the end of his life without a hip. This patient has proven to react

to Poly debris! A MoM device would most likely see him through the rest of

his life. He's had enough pain already! GRRRRRRR. I can't give any slack

to OSs that are not looking at the technolgy available to help their

patients!

(Don't get me started on Insurance cos!)

Whew Thanks for letting me blow steam!!!!!

Carol in CA RBHR DeSmet 10-22-13

>

> Subject: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

I am just starting to investigate having THR. I hope I don't run into many OSs

of this type.

Carol Latta clatta@...> wrote:Yikes,

I feel every OS should stay " up " on what's happening in his chosen field. He

has the quality of each patient in his hands! I give no slack to the biased

opinions of most of our Ortho surgeons. I just emailed a very fine, head of

University Medical staff, ortho in CA. I queried him about my

father-in-law who has had two THR's and now needs another. This patient

believes whatever a Doc tells him, and has already seen this Doc for a

revision. So I was just checking to see what devices this OS uses without

using father-in-laws name.

Father-in-laws first THR (13 yrs ago) kept dislocating- replaced in 2-3 yrs

(perhaps not put in right or a bad device?) The 2nd one is now loose after

almost 10 years (osteolysis -right on time?). The patient believes " He did

too much " . He is only 68, and active in fishing, gardening, doesn't sit

around, but isn't doing marathlon running! This could be his last chance

for a revision. What device chosen for this surgery is critical to his life

quality. This influencial teaching surgeon felt my asking about the MoM THR

or a THR/poly with metal liner was " very controversal " and wouldn't discuss

it over the internet. He chooses the " standard " THR with " new poly " for a

variety of reasons.....end of story.

No consideration for the fact that this patient could be in a wheel chair

before the end of his life without a hip. This patient has proven to react

to Poly debris! A MoM device would most likely see him through the rest of

his life. He's had enough pain already! GRRRRRRR. I can't give any slack

to OSs that are not looking at the technolgy available to help their

patients!

(Don't get me started on Insurance cos!)

Whew Thanks for letting me blow steam!!!!!

Carol in CA RBHR DeSmet 10-22-13

>

> Subject: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

Yikes,

I feel every OS should stay " up " on what's happening in his chosen field. He

has the quality of each patient in his hands! I give no slack to the biased

opinions of most of our Ortho surgeons. I just emailed a very fine, head of

University Medical staff, ortho in CA. I queried him about my

father-in-law who has had two THR's and now needs another. This patient

believes whatever a Doc tells him, and has already seen this Doc for a

revision. So I was just checking to see what devices this OS uses without

using father-in-laws name.

Father-in-laws first THR (13 yrs ago) kept dislocating- replaced in 2-3 yrs

(perhaps not put in right or a bad device?) The 2nd one is now loose after

almost 10 years (osteolysis -right on time?). The patient believes " He did

too much " . He is only 68, and active in fishing, gardening, doesn't sit

around, but isn't doing marathlon running! This could be his last chance

for a revision. What device chosen for this surgery is critical to his life

quality. This influencial teaching surgeon felt my asking about the MoM THR

or a THR/poly with metal liner was " very controversal " and wouldn't discuss

it over the internet. He chooses the " standard " THR with " new poly " for a

variety of reasons.....end of story.

No consideration for the fact that this patient could be in a wheel chair

before the end of his life without a hip. This patient has proven to react

to Poly debris! A MoM device would most likely see him through the rest of

his life. He's had enough pain already! GRRRRRRR. I can't give any slack

to OSs that are not looking at the technolgy available to help their

patients!

(Don't get me started on Insurance cos!)

Whew Thanks for letting me blow steam!!!!!

Carol in CA RBHR DeSmet 10-22-13

>

> Subject: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

Yikes,

I feel every OS should stay " up " on what's happening in his chosen field. He

has the quality of each patient in his hands! I give no slack to the biased

opinions of most of our Ortho surgeons. I just emailed a very fine, head of

University Medical staff, ortho in CA. I queried him about my

father-in-law who has had two THR's and now needs another. This patient

believes whatever a Doc tells him, and has already seen this Doc for a

revision. So I was just checking to see what devices this OS uses without

using father-in-laws name.

Father-in-laws first THR (13 yrs ago) kept dislocating- replaced in 2-3 yrs

(perhaps not put in right or a bad device?) The 2nd one is now loose after

almost 10 years (osteolysis -right on time?). The patient believes " He did

too much " . He is only 68, and active in fishing, gardening, doesn't sit

around, but isn't doing marathlon running! This could be his last chance

for a revision. What device chosen for this surgery is critical to his life

quality. This influencial teaching surgeon felt my asking about the MoM THR

or a THR/poly with metal liner was " very controversal " and wouldn't discuss

it over the internet. He chooses the " standard " THR with " new poly " for a

variety of reasons.....end of story.

No consideration for the fact that this patient could be in a wheel chair

before the end of his life without a hip. This patient has proven to react

to Poly debris! A MoM device would most likely see him through the rest of

his life. He's had enough pain already! GRRRRRRR. I can't give any slack

to OSs that are not looking at the technolgy available to help their

patients!

(Don't get me started on Insurance cos!)

Whew Thanks for letting me blow steam!!!!!

Carol in CA RBHR DeSmet 10-22-13

>

> Subject: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons are idiots!

[Guest guest]

gosh yes

Re: Re: Not all US Orthopedic Surgeons

> are idiots!

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Ah .........excuse me but I don't really appreciate being told

> that my

> > stereotyped views are offensive, if not ignorant as a blanket

> statement when

> > supposed views are not listed............ or information given

> about why my

> > particular views are stereotype etc........... In doing as

you

> have you

> > yourself are simply doing what you accuse me and others of

> > doing............i.e. making general statements without any

> > evidence............

> >

> > I am not an American and I have not expressed any opinions

about

> the

> > 'majority of Amercian OS's' here or elsewhere.

> >

> > Thank you............

> >

>

> > > I'm sure you are a good person with good intents, but it's

what

> > Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> > I am

> > > sure are stereotyped views such as yours, or Edith's or

> Abmacdona

> > > (when you make the comment " a majority of American OS's " )

that

> are

> > > offensive if not ignorant. Can you, or anyone for that

matter,

> > > please tell me how many American OS's are there? And how

many

> people

> > > have posted on this site about negative experiences (maybe

100

> or

> > > 200)? So where do you get this fact that the negaitivity

comes

> from

> > > a " majority " of American OS's. OK, maybe I'm the ignorant

one

> and

> > > the facts are out there - I will be happy to admit it, but

> please do

> > > provide an unbiased source for your facts.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >