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Yup. I have them on the more recently resurfaced side. They only started the

day after my first resurfacing surgery.

My doc also said they'd go away and they never have. There's a definite

improvement but if I had to estimate, I'd say I'm at least six months away from

losing it completely, if at all.

Des Tuck

LBHR 10/01

RBHR 5/03

In a message dated 12/30/2003 6:51:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,

crypticxyz@... writes:

Adductor muscle spasms were a big problem before my resurfacing two years

ago. Doctors told me they would go away, which they did, but not completely;

one

or two of the adductors needed extra stretching, kneading, etc. to feel close

to normal. Now, a few days ago fairly acute spasms returned. My resurfaced

hip joint seems perfect, however. Anyone with similar problems?

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Des Tuck, thanks for the reply. I have a feeling the doctors don't really

know much about muscle spasms and they tell people who have them they will go

away. When they don't they don't really know what to do. I'd like to find

someone who really understands them and knows for sure how to treat them.

Before I had my operation I flew half way across the country to Chicago for

Prolotherapy injections. That doctor told me he could fix the spasms, but a few

thousand dollars later I quit and had my resurfacing.

Keep looking, there must be a way.

Happy New Year

Tom.

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Hi Tom:

One thing I'll add, based on my experience with Hellerwork - a kind of

physical therapy which requires you to re-educate your body to move the way it

should once the cause of the pain is gone. You can find out more about it on the

Web.

You'd be amazed at how much your posture affects pain in different parts of

your body. If you can remember to pull your chin back and keep your spine as

straight as you can at all times, especially when you're eating, driving or

sitting at your computer.

On Sunday I was working out with my karate students and suddenly realized

that I've programmed myself to hunch a little when I do a front kick. When I

pulled my head back, some of the pain in my right adductor reduced noticeably.

I'm

convinced that if I keep remembering this, instead of going into the hunch

that I've gotten accustomed to doing for about 30 years, my adductor pain will

reduce further.

Just a hunch. (Excuse the bad pun).

Bottom line is I don't think the solution is in medication. It's in the way

you move, stand and sit.

Des Tuck

In a message dated 12/30/2003 12:38:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,

crypticxyz@... writes:

Des Tuck, thanks for the reply. I have a feeling the doctors don't really

know much about muscle spasms and they tell people who have them they will go

away. When they don't they don't really know what to do. I'd like to find

someone who really understands them and knows for sure how to treat them.

Before I had my operation I flew half way across the country to Chicago for

Prolotherapy injections. That doctor told me he could fix the spasms, but a

few

thousand dollars later I quit and had my resurfacing.

Keep looking, there must be a way.

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I had a lot of muscle spasms before my surgery, and immediately

afterwards. Now they are milder, and happen less often. I have found

that sleeping on my side instead of my back helps, as does stretching

well after any exercising, walking, etc. Some people find doing

circles with your ankles in both directions is helpful.

I often take one tablet of Robaxacet (Robaxisol also works) at

bedtime, as I usually only get the spasms when I'm trying to fall

asleep. This combination of a muscle relaxant and anti-inflammatory is

available over the counter in Canada, but the muscle relaxing

ingredient (carbamol) is only available with a prescription in

England. I'm not sure about the U.S.

In my case, I have stomach problems from so many

anti-inflammatories prescribed in the four years before surgery, so if

I take a Robaxacet or Robaxisol, I take a Zantac (ranitidine) stomach

pill with it.

Sometimes I can get rid of muscle spasms and leg cramps just by

getting out of bed and walking around for 5-10 minutes, then lying in

a different position when I go back to bed. Some people find they can

sleep better in a recliner or other " non-bed " , in which case you might

want to see if your bed could be changed or improved.

My adductors are still very weak. I'm hoping that when they

recover, the spasms will go away in a year or so.

n

rBHR Oct.17/03 McMinn

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Hi guys,

Just after my resurface most of the top muscles seemed to do nothing but

spasm........ that was put down to moving for the first time in 35 years

during surgery........ These days I only have spasms around the hip area if

I overdo working in the pool....... and it doesn't take much to overexercise

believe me...... so I have had to learn the hard way that a few mins more

doesn't help.........even if the water feels good and I feel

fit.............

If you cannot get particular muscles to sort out with particular care to

that muscle with specific exercises done slowly/developed over time etc then

I would be looking at potential back hassles that were causing pressure onto

the spinal chord......... These nerves can cause peculiar problems in

various areas of the lower torso..........sadly.

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Des Tuck, thanks for the reply. I have a feeling the doctors don't really

> know much about muscle spasms and they tell people who have them they will

go

> away. When they don't they don't really know what to do. I'd like to find

> someone who really understands them and knows for sure how to treat them.

>

> Before I had my operation I flew half way across the country to Chicago

for

> Prolotherapy injections. That doctor told me he could fix the spasms, but

a few

> thousand dollars later I quit and had my resurfacing.

>

> Keep looking, there must be a way.

>

> Happy New Year

>

> Tom.

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Amen to all of that, Carol. One of the amazing things I've learned is what an

incredible instrument the human body is, and how everything interacts. Funny

about how your ear bones weren't properly aligned. What chance do your

adductors stand, you may ask!

Best of luck in straightening yourself out. I work on it daily myself.

Des Tuck

Both sides now - Treacy

In a message dated 1/4/2004 12:41:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,

clatta@... writes:

am at 6+ weeks RBHR. I am amazed at the rehab process. I had muscles

spasms before surgery.I rather thought that the spasming muscles would just

get back to normal when I had a new hip. Now the same muscles are

complaining, as they are now having to work, and work differently than they

had been.

I'm working with a Rolfer. I am amazed at how many parts of my body had

been involved to keep me active presurgery. From neck to feet, I had been

using the wrong muscles to compensate for the lack of hip mobility. (we do

what we have to do!) My Rolfer says " the muscles are easy to get back " .

The hard work is the process of using them correctly.....a " mind memory

thing " ......Reprograming. The muscles are ALL complaining at the change!

Even my ear bones were not aligned due to my crooked stance! This has been

quite an experience.....and yes, pain is involved.....but it is now pain

that is progress! My Rolfer suggested I write a journal of this current

struggle, as in 6 months I will forget it all!

So I've become an advocate of professional help after surgery. Pain at

this point for me, is definately gain. (*Ü*)

Carol in CA RBHR 10-22-03 DeSmet

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Hi all,

I am at 6+ weeks RBHR. I am amazed at the rehab process. I had muscles

spasms before surgery.I rather thought that the spasming muscles would just

get back to normal when I had a new hip. Now the same muscles are

complaining, as they are now having to work, and work differently than they

had been.

I'm working with a Rolfer. I am amazed at how many parts of my body had

been involved to keep me active presurgery. From neck to feet, I had been

using the wrong muscles to compensate for the lack of hip mobility. (we do

what we have to do!) My Rolfer says " the muscles are easy to get back " .

The hard work is the process of using them correctly.....a " mind memory

thing " ......Reprograming. The muscles are ALL complaining at the change!

Even my ear bones were not aligned due to my crooked stance! This has been

quite an experience.....and yes, pain is involved.....but it is now pain

that is progress! My Rolfer suggested I write a journal of this current

struggle, as in 6 months I will forget it all!

So I've become an advocate of professional help after surgery. Pain at

this point for me, is definately gain. (*Ü*)

Carol in CA RBHR 10-22-03 DeSmet

> From: crypticxyz@...

> Reply-To: surfacehippy

> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:47:23 EST

> To: surfacehippy

> Subject: adductor muscle spasms

>

> Adductor muscle spasms were a big problem before my resurfacing two years

> ago. Doctors told me they would go away, which they did, but not completely;

> one

> or two of the adductors needed extra stretching, kneading, etc. to feel close

> to normal. Now, a few days ago fairly acute spasms returned. My resurfaced

> hip joint seems perfect, however. Anyone with similar problems?

>

> Tom

>

>

>

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Hi Carol,

Funny enough I know all about that ear bone...........smile.......though I

don't smile about it when it goes out of whack..........

My xrays are interesting in that they show wear to a number of body joints

from 35 year of no hip joint........ each has a similar wear pattern to

match the way I moved.........

And yes the reprogramming is quite a task.......... though as you say a much

more joyful one than putting up with the hassles pre op.......... and slowly

you will catch yourself doing it normally again........

Best of luck with getting all those moaning muscles working..........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02

I am at 6+ weeks RBHR. I am amazed at the rehab process. I had muscles

spasms before surgery.I rather thought that the spasming muscles would just

get back to normal when I had a new hip. Now the same muscles are

complaining, as they are now having to work, and work differently than they

had been.

I'm working with a Rolfer. I am amazed at how many parts of my body had

been involved to keep me active presurgery. From neck to feet, I had been

using the wrong muscles to compensate for the lack of hip mobility. (we do

what we have to do!) My Rolfer says " the muscles are easy to get back " .

The hard work is the process of using them correctly.....a " mind memory

thing " ......Reprograming. The muscles are ALL complaining at the change!

Even my ear bones were not aligned due to my crooked stance! This has been

quite an experience.....and yes, pain is involved.....but it is now pain

that is progress! My Rolfer suggested I write a journal of this current

struggle, as in 6 months I will forget it all!

So I've become an advocate of professional help after surgery. Pain at

this point for me, is definately gain. (*Ü*)

Carol in CA RBHR 10-22-03 DeSmet

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