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ok, I just read the paperwork the dr gave us. It's actually called

gastoesophageal reflux disease (hiatal hernia)

So I'm confused.

It talks mostly about heartburn, which doesn't have.

Am I missing something here?

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I was recently diagnosed with GERD (Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease)

as well as a possible peptic ulcer and i don't have normsl heartburn.

i was getting pain and tenderness just below my ribcage, and a tender

upper belly, acid taste in my mouth a couple of times, nausea etc

etc. I was put on Nexium first (but turned out to be allergic to it

<typical>) and am now on 150mg Zantac twice a day along with mylanta

rolltabs when needed and some mucaine if really bad, but since i have

been on the Zantac (after i was on it about 1-2 weeks) i don't nned

anything else very often. i can eat most foods (except those acidic

foods like juice and tomatoes etc and also spicy food (which i can't

eat anyway).

Good luck with his upper GI (it can be a x-ray series (this is the

barium thing) and later a camera (there is a little capsule camera

that they can use too, which you swallow and it takes pictures all

the way through (my Celiac sister is having this done soon).

I too may be having this done soon :-<.

Good Luck and see your instincts that something was wrong and he

needed to be seen sooner was RIGHT (don't mess with a Mum's gut

instinct about her kids !!!!) at least GERD can be controlled (I too

have to sleep with my bedhead raised sometimes (now that the Zantac

is working it isn't really necessary most of the time).

Good Luck with the diet (he will enjoy getting to eat at school when

others can't :->.

Sharon

Australia

H-EDS, GERD and OH so much more.......

> ok, I just read the paperwork the dr gave us. It's actually called

gastoesophageal reflux disease (hiatal hernia)

> So I'm confused.

> It talks mostly about heartburn, which doesn't have.

> Am I missing something here?

>

>

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> ok, I just read the paperwork the dr gave us. It's actually

called gastoesophageal reflux disease (hiatal hernia)

> So I'm confused.

> It talks mostly about heartburn, which doesn't have.

> Am I missing something here?

I am going to reply to both of your posts on this one. Acid Reflux

and GERD (gasroesophageal reflux disease) are just two names for the

same thing. A hiatal hernia might be involved, but as a possible

cause, not the disease itself.

You are right, based on all the TV commercials, that the primary

symptom of GERD is major heartburn, but it is much more than that.

And it is possible to have GERD and not show any signs of

heartburn. The cause of the heartburn pain is that the sphincter

valve where the esophogus enters the stomach is not working

properly, allowing stomach acid to " back-flow " up into the

esophogus. It hits worst at night when you are on your back or

stomach instead of in an upright position. This is why your doctor

prescribed raising the head of the bed, to minimize back-flow during

the night.

As for the diet issue, the book I checked says " Diets high in fat,

whole milk, orange juice, chocolate and tomatoes tend to lower the

pressure of the lower esophogeal sphincter, while protein,

carbohydrates and nonfat milk increase the pressure. " And pressure

is what helps keep the valve working in the right direction.

The stomach lining is designed to handle stomach acid (and it is

literally a very powerful acid.) The lining of the esophogus is

not. Overtime, that stomach acid can literally burn a hole in the

esophogus. A sporadic case of heartburn is not a problem. But when

it turns into GERD, it is a problem.

A hiatal hernia is " an abnormal opening in the diaphragm that allows

a portion of the stomach to enter the thoracic cavity. " You can

visualize the esophogus as a tube running from the mouth down to the

top of the stomach. The diaphragm muscle runs across the body, just

above the stomach. The esophogus passes through the diaphragm

through a hole called the esophogeal foramen. A hiatal hernia

changes the shape of that hole, allowing a piece of the stomach wall

to enter the hole and get pinched by the diaphragm muscle. This

pinching can cause pain similar to GERD, but it is not the same

thing.

My experience with hiatal hernias and GERD is that Darlene has or

has had both. She had the hernia repaired surgically a few years

ago. She still has GERD. She was on Prevacid for a long time but

is now taking Nexium. Feel free to contact her direct if you want to

talk to her about it.

I don't know enough about the actual breathing technique to reliably

describe it to someone, but it is my understanding that hiatal

hernias can be repaired with a form of deep breathing. It came up

as " an interesting side comment " when I took an intro class in Chi

Nei Tsang a few months ago. My main reaction at the time was " Fine -

why didn't I know about this before she had to go through the

surgery? "

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In a message dated 1/17/04 12:34:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

monica-jb@... writes:

<< So, what I want to know is how many of you have this, how do you

handle it, and is it EDS related? >>

I have it too!!!

Hugs,

Sue

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I am glad that things went well .

There are a few things to think about with regards to the new diet though,

your son will look at it as a punishment no doubt for the first little

while, and be upset that he can't eat certain foods for a time, but when he

sees the difference it makes, there may be no arguement from him anymore.

He may become quite adept at self-policing and this may prove to be no

problem at all for him once he gets the hang of it all.

A barium swallow or " upper GI series " is an x-ray test used to examine the

upper digestive tract (the esophagus, stomach, and small intestine). Because

these internal organs are normally not visible on x-rays, he will be asked

to swallow a liquid that does show up on x-rays (barium - it tastes like

flavoured chalk and is the consistency of a milshake). The barium helps make

these organs more illuminated on x-ray. The barium will temporarily coat

the inside lining of the esophagus, stomach, and intestine, allowing the

outline of these organs to be visible on the x-ray pictures. This test is

useful for diagnosing ulcers, problems that cause narrowing of the

esophagus, hiatus hernia, some causes of inflammation in the intestine, and

some swallowing problems.

Now. The UGI SBFT study is an acromyn for: Upper Gastrointestinal Study

Small Bowel Follow Through. This means that ater the barium has made it to

his stomach and into his small intestine, they have to wait and continue to

take films until it reached his large intestine as well. This is a long

procedure depending upon how his motility is - so be prepared, it could take

anywhere from an hour, to 6 hours! I have had this test done and the lab

had to close for the day, I wasn't finished. It got held up in my stomach

and they never did film it in my large intestine. My test began at 9:00 am.

By 6:00 pm, I was still there and it had just started to coat the small

intestine. The radiologist said 'ok, we get it, motility disorder' and let

me go. lol

This is not an invasive test at all, your son will just lie on a table with

a flourscope above him - it's a running x-ray, unlike a regular x-ray where

it takes films at intervals and one at a time. It's not an incomfortable

test.

If something requires further investigation, the doctor as some point in the

future may wish to look down his throat and into his stomach. This test is

known as an Upper Endoscopy and is an inspection of the esophagus and

stomach using a camera on a lengthy tube that is placed down the throat. It

allows doctors to find ulcers, irritation and infections in the upper

digestive tract and is useful for explaining bleeding, swallowing problems,

or abdominal pain. The test is only carried out with a sedated patient and

most times, the patient wakes up having no recall at all of the test and

what happened. I can't imagine the doctor doing this test at this time - he

might wish to depending upon the results of the UGI SBFT, the medications

and if the modifications to diet at home do not work after two months

however.

Now, about the paediatrician and his diagnosis of lactose intolerance -

depending upon what he heard in terms of symptoms, you have to understand

that at the time, this may have been a logical conclusion for him to make.

Talk to him about his decision.

There are GI issues and EDS, I'll forward the articles I have about them to

you.

Jill

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Hi -

I, too, have acid reflux disease. And, yes, it can make me double right over

with pain!!! I am on Nexium and it is working very well for me. I take one a

day and it keeps it in check. I do try to keep track of what I eat, but I only

do this on my own (not something my doc wanted me to do).

I hope feels better really soon and that his tests come out fine.

Love, Patti

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:34 AM

Subject: Back from the GI Dr.

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