Re: What, oh, what is normal????

[Guest guest]

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> Well, I think a normal 2-year-old could be expected to reverse pronouns,

and

> as for the rest...why not? There ARE some simply brilliant children out

> there without any other issues -- I think we as a group tend to doubt

that

> because that's what we thought about OUR kids, and what we were told about

> our kids, and we're pretty bitter about that.

>

Yup. Makes it hard to know what to think, doesn't it? I mean some things

are just so autistic that they scream it out at you and others...well, they

are signs, but perhaps not always.

None of my kids ever reversed pronouns at any age except Enrique and Putter.

So that alone worries me though I have heard it can be a normal state which

is what I thought it was with Enrique, of course. THAT'S the big problem.

We have all told ourselves these things, and they all sounded logical at the

time, but we were WRONG!!!!

Salli

[Guest guest]

> My inclination is to feel the same as you. I do not think that is

> normal. Now the boy may have a very gifted intelligence and that is

> all, but...experience has also led me to think it would be extremely

> wise to watch him for social skills development and atypical language

> usage, among other things.

Yeah, she was wondering about preschools versus playgroups; she is naturally

a playgroup sort of person. But I'll certainly encourage her to get him out

and about socially as that should show up any problems if there are any.

But I am not a professional. I am just

> a stay at home mother who sees alot of zebras.

>

Yes, galloping across your yard all day long and you don't even live in

Africa.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> My inclination is to feel the same as you. I do not think that is

> normal. Now the boy may have a very gifted intelligence and that is

> all, but...experience has also led me to think it would be extremely

> wise to watch him for social skills development and atypical language

> usage, among other things.

Yeah, she was wondering about preschools versus playgroups; she is naturally

a playgroup sort of person. But I'll certainly encourage her to get him out

and about socially as that should show up any problems if there are any.

But I am not a professional. I am just

> a stay at home mother who sees alot of zebras.

>

Yes, galloping across your yard all day long and you don't even live in

Africa.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> My inclination is to feel the same as you. I do not think that is

> normal. Now the boy may have a very gifted intelligence and that is

> all, but...experience has also led me to think it would be extremely

> wise to watch him for social skills development and atypical language

> usage, among other things.

Yeah, she was wondering about preschools versus playgroups; she is naturally

a playgroup sort of person. But I'll certainly encourage her to get him out

and about socially as that should show up any problems if there are any.

But I am not a professional. I am just

> a stay at home mother who sees alot of zebras.

>

Yes, galloping across your yard all day long and you don't even live in

Africa.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> LMAO!!!!!! Jeff is barely , just barely out of the range of being a total

aspie! He is starting to understand some things. But very slowly. And really

that's just the way he was born. LOl He says I am so predictable. I think

HE is the predictable one. ugh

And I bet YOU are right, Jacquie.

But then I am as NT as you.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> LMAO!!!!!! Jeff is barely , just barely out of the range of being a total

aspie! He is starting to understand some things. But very slowly. And really

that's just the way he was born. LOl He says I am so predictable. I think

HE is the predictable one. ugh

And I bet YOU are right, Jacquie.

But then I am as NT as you.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> LMAO!!!!!! Jeff is barely , just barely out of the range of being a total

aspie! He is starting to understand some things. But very slowly. And really

that's just the way he was born. LOl He says I am so predictable. I think

HE is the predictable one. ugh

And I bet YOU are right, Jacquie.

But then I am as NT as you.

Salli

[Guest guest]

> Now the boy may have a very gifted intelligence and that is all, but... <

but...even that isn't " normal "

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> Now the boy may have a very gifted intelligence and that is all, but... <

but...even that isn't " normal "

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> He is two. He knows all his letters, big and small, and he can write some

words. He knows all the states in the U.S. and he can put them together in

a wooden map puzzle.

Oh my God, he sounds exactly like Boone!

> He has great eye contact, is very attached to his mother and has pretty

good play skills.

Well, maybe not *exactly* like Boone then.

> But all three of those things could be said of Enrique.

Hmmm.... an aspie

> His speech is excellent although he calls himself " you. "

Sounding less and less like Boone at that age.

> Just how normal does all this sound?

Not very normal.

> Do perfectly normal two year olds sometimes know all this stuff?

No. Normal two year olds do not. Autistic, hyperlexic or genius

two-year-olds, maybe.

> I just suspect everything and everyone and I wish I could enjoy spending

time with other people's small children without endlessly seeing signs of

ASD issues.

I usually have the opposite feelings. I was in line at Wal-Mart trying to

call the house on my cell phone and getting annoyed because there was no

answer. A tiny little girl in the cart in front of me looked me right in the

eye, smiled and said, " isn't anybody home at your house? " She was so small

she couldn't possibly have been three yet!

I was stunned. How could such a small child speak so clearly and read body

language so well?

Sissi

[Guest guest]

> Never? That is my real question. Do they absolutely NEVER know this

stuff

> or is it just uncommon?

Well, I think a normal 2-year-old could be expected to reverse pronouns, and

as for the rest...why not? There ARE some simply brilliant children out

there without any other issues -- I think we as a group tend to doubt that

because that's what we thought about OUR kids, and what we were told about

our kids, and we're pretty bitter about that.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Never? That is my real question. Do they absolutely NEVER know this

stuff

> or is it just uncommon?

Well, I think a normal 2-year-old could be expected to reverse pronouns, and

as for the rest...why not? There ARE some simply brilliant children out

there without any other issues -- I think we as a group tend to doubt that

because that's what we thought about OUR kids, and what we were told about

our kids, and we're pretty bitter about that.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Never? That is my real question. Do they absolutely NEVER know this

stuff

> or is it just uncommon?

Well, I think a normal 2-year-old could be expected to reverse pronouns, and

as for the rest...why not? There ARE some simply brilliant children out

there without any other issues -- I think we as a group tend to doubt that

because that's what we thought about OUR kids, and what we were told about

our kids, and we're pretty bitter about that.

Jacquie