Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Experts say that approximately 30% of WLS patients have suffered " addiction transfer " and transferred their food addiction to some other addiction form such as drinking, drugs, shopping or promiscuous behavior. I have always said that food is my addiction of choice. I don't drink, never even experimented with drugs in college or anything, not fond of shopping cause I don't like crowds, don't smoke..... But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. This is a major life change and clearly the weight came on so signficantly for some reason. If we don't deal with the reason, we most certainly could replace the weight with some other " comfort " . I wish Oprah showed a more balanced program and included successful WLS patients who weren't dealing with emotional richochet...primarily because a large population of the country treat Oprah like Ghandi, and anything that Oprah says is gospel. So I wish she took on the responsibility of showing a more balances picture of the procedure. But hey, if the number of patients goes down drastically, I'll get a surgery date sooner. Whoo Hoo! Silver lining baby! Re: Oprah I don't have a spouse does that mean I won't be able to experience the sleeping around? I used to drink quite a lot during my early 20s almost 20 years ago. I rarely drink now. I don't see this as a problem. I've never taken any drugs other than prescriptions and have never abused them. I dislike drugs and the feeling(s) I experience when taking them. Did Oprah have a source or was it her vast clinical experience she was referencing? > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's on > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are now > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see that > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people having > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this is a > great site. Take care everyone! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Experts say that approximately 30% of WLS patients have suffered " addiction transfer " and transferred their food addiction to some other addiction form such as drinking, drugs, shopping or promiscuous behavior. I have always said that food is my addiction of choice. I don't drink, never even experimented with drugs in college or anything, not fond of shopping cause I don't like crowds, don't smoke..... But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. This is a major life change and clearly the weight came on so signficantly for some reason. If we don't deal with the reason, we most certainly could replace the weight with some other " comfort " . I wish Oprah showed a more balanced program and included successful WLS patients who weren't dealing with emotional richochet...primarily because a large population of the country treat Oprah like Ghandi, and anything that Oprah says is gospel. So I wish she took on the responsibility of showing a more balances picture of the procedure. But hey, if the number of patients goes down drastically, I'll get a surgery date sooner. Whoo Hoo! Silver lining baby! Re: Oprah I don't have a spouse does that mean I won't be able to experience the sleeping around? I used to drink quite a lot during my early 20s almost 20 years ago. I rarely drink now. I don't see this as a problem. I've never taken any drugs other than prescriptions and have never abused them. I dislike drugs and the feeling(s) I experience when taking them. Did Oprah have a source or was it her vast clinical experience she was referencing? > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's on > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are now > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see that > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people having > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this is a > great site. Take care everyone! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 You are interpreting what I'm saying, rather than simply reading what I'm saying. I never stated that wls cures addictions. I was talking about a show regarding dangerous addictive behaviour that came about in wls patients. That is very specific. Re: Oprah Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 You are interpreting what I'm saying, rather than simply reading what I'm saying. I never stated that wls cures addictions. I was talking about a show regarding dangerous addictive behaviour that came about in wls patients. That is very specific. Re: Oprah Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I hadn't intended to imply/interpret what YOU were saying. It's my opinion that this is what Oprah and other sensationalists do/say. The dangerous addictive behavious in that show that you're talking about occur in non-wls patients too. I do not believe that these dangerous addictive behaviours " came about " BECAUSE of wls. I have yet to hear/read any thing/data on how wls itself is the specific cause for addictive behaviours (dangerous or otherwise). > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I hadn't intended to imply/interpret what YOU were saying. It's my opinion that this is what Oprah and other sensationalists do/say. The dangerous addictive behavious in that show that you're talking about occur in non-wls patients too. I do not believe that these dangerous addictive behaviours " came about " BECAUSE of wls. I have yet to hear/read any thing/data on how wls itself is the specific cause for addictive behaviours (dangerous or otherwise). > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I hadn't intended to imply/interpret what YOU were saying. It's my opinion that this is what Oprah and other sensationalists do/say. The dangerous addictive behavious in that show that you're talking about occur in non-wls patients too. I do not believe that these dangerous addictive behaviours " came about " BECAUSE of wls. I have yet to hear/read any thing/data on how wls itself is the specific cause for addictive behaviours (dangerous or otherwise). > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 GEEZ, MIKE.....you took the words right out of my mouth. It's all about ratings. The title of the show is not necessarily the same as the content of the show Cindy in TX > > > > Wow......I cant believe how hard she went out of her way to make the > surgery > > look bad.....For somebody like her that has had all the strugles with > > weight, that shocked me..... > > > > Mike T > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 GEEZ, MIKE.....you took the words right out of my mouth. It's all about ratings. The title of the show is not necessarily the same as the content of the show Cindy in TX > > > > Wow......I cant believe how hard she went out of her way to make the > surgery > > look bad.....For somebody like her that has had all the strugles with > > weight, that shocked me..... > > > > Mike T > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Everyone is going to have to keep in mind a couple of things. First of all everyone is intitled to their own opinion. Including Oprah and people have to remember to think for themselves when it comes to watching shows like this. I say that people should have therapy or counseling or group of some kind because it is a huge mental change and we couldn't lose the weight on our own and it is my opinion that the mental is going to be even harder in my own experience and that which I have seen experienced. There are a thousand reasons out there that people gain weight and that includes OPRAH! it is a matter of getting to a point where you can catch it and get it under control. Until I feel I can do that, I will be in therapy, I go to therapy for more reasons then just weight. It all leads to one thing, managing life. Personally, I have a hard time dealing with the stressers of my life. The moment I feel old past issues coming up I freak that my life is going to go backwards and I turn to food... I am working really hard to change that... but for me there is SOOO much baggage that came along with my losing this weight personally. It is again my opinion that food is just as an addiction as drugs and alcohol, if you think about it, it all draws back to the same behaviors. Such as, hiding food, being sneaky about how much I eat and how often, spending sooo much more money on food then I NEED, building my whole day around it. I would like to wake up every morning and not worry about what I am eating that day for a change, even though my choices are SOOO Much healthier, I STILL worry about it, because now I worry about making the wrong choices... I want to get to a point where food does not rule my day. I can't believe how much money I can spend on clothes now instead of food. I am not bringing my whole family down with it like I was now either. So it has many of the same issues as any other drug. I treat my food addiction as such as well. If I just KNOW I want to gorge, I try to call a friend and say, " I want to gorge " and they help me through it. Bottom line is that we all experience things differently and we have to deal with them in the same manner, we all are going to have different outlooks that work for us and may not for others. I have not even read all the posts yet and for some reason this just flowed out hahaha, probably wont even make since to what all you were talking about.. but I guess I needed to say it. Thanks for listening!!! Shauna Wang wrote: You are interpreting what I'm saying, rather than simply reading what I'm saying. I never stated that wls cures addictions. I was talking about a show regarding dangerous addictive behaviour that came about in wls patients. That is very specific. Re: Oprah Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Everyone is going to have to keep in mind a couple of things. First of all everyone is intitled to their own opinion. Including Oprah and people have to remember to think for themselves when it comes to watching shows like this. I say that people should have therapy or counseling or group of some kind because it is a huge mental change and we couldn't lose the weight on our own and it is my opinion that the mental is going to be even harder in my own experience and that which I have seen experienced. There are a thousand reasons out there that people gain weight and that includes OPRAH! it is a matter of getting to a point where you can catch it and get it under control. Until I feel I can do that, I will be in therapy, I go to therapy for more reasons then just weight. It all leads to one thing, managing life. Personally, I have a hard time dealing with the stressers of my life. The moment I feel old past issues coming up I freak that my life is going to go backwards and I turn to food... I am working really hard to change that... but for me there is SOOO much baggage that came along with my losing this weight personally. It is again my opinion that food is just as an addiction as drugs and alcohol, if you think about it, it all draws back to the same behaviors. Such as, hiding food, being sneaky about how much I eat and how often, spending sooo much more money on food then I NEED, building my whole day around it. I would like to wake up every morning and not worry about what I am eating that day for a change, even though my choices are SOOO Much healthier, I STILL worry about it, because now I worry about making the wrong choices... I want to get to a point where food does not rule my day. I can't believe how much money I can spend on clothes now instead of food. I am not bringing my whole family down with it like I was now either. So it has many of the same issues as any other drug. I treat my food addiction as such as well. If I just KNOW I want to gorge, I try to call a friend and say, " I want to gorge " and they help me through it. Bottom line is that we all experience things differently and we have to deal with them in the same manner, we all are going to have different outlooks that work for us and may not for others. I have not even read all the posts yet and for some reason this just flowed out hahaha, probably wont even make since to what all you were talking about.. but I guess I needed to say it. Thanks for listening!!! Shauna Wang wrote: You are interpreting what I'm saying, rather than simply reading what I'm saying. I never stated that wls cures addictions. I was talking about a show regarding dangerous addictive behaviour that came about in wls patients. That is very specific. Re: Oprah Permit me to be picky and take issue with something for a minute: " But, like Shauna always says on this board, WLS patients should have therapy and should continue therapy. " I disagree in that I would say ANYONE with addictions should have therapy and should continue therapy. I know I'm beating this issue to death but it's not the WLS that causes addiction transfers or even addictions. It's the addictions one has that cause the need for wls in the first place. For the life of me I can't figure out how wls got tied in with addictions. I've had to struggle with a food addiction all my life and will have to continue to for the rest of it. WLS isn't going to help or hinder my addiction or the possibility of me transferring to another addiction. I'd really like to hear about any other kind of surgery that cures an addiction because I was never told wls would cure any for me. Mike in GR (maybe I'm addicted to being too anal?) > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, I get EXACTLY what you are saying. Cindy in TX > > > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > > She's > > > on > > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery > are > > > now > > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses > etc. > > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > > that > > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > > I'm > > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > > having > > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, > this > > > is a > > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, I get EXACTLY what you are saying. Cindy in TX > > > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > > She's > > > on > > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery > are > > > now > > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses > etc. > > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > > that > > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > > I'm > > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > > having > > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, > this > > > is a > > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, I get EXACTLY what you are saying. Cindy in TX > > > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > > She's > > > on > > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery > are > > > now > > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses > etc. > > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > > that > > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > > I'm > > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > > having > > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, > this > > > is a > > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 " Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. " - Moynihan. That's one of my favorite quotes. > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 " Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. " - Moynihan. That's one of my favorite quotes. > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 My addiction transfer has become working out.......for now its just walking each day, but I know when I get released by my doctor Im going to be a gym rat.......Ill take this any day over my old addiction! Why wasn't I on Oprah!!! Mike T Re: Oprah > > I don't have a spouse does that mean I won't be able to experience > the sleeping around? > > I used to drink quite a lot during my early 20s almost 20 years ago. > I rarely drink now. I don't see this as a problem. > > I've never taken any drugs other than prescriptions and have never > abused them. I dislike drugs and the feeling(s) I experience when > taking them. > > Did Oprah have a source or was it her vast clinical experience she > was referencing? > > >> >> Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > on >> TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > now >> alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. >> Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > that >> happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm >> doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > having >> problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > is a >> great site. Take care everyone! >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well Oprah in my case you are very wrong I had my surgery 02/0202 and I am not sleeping around, did get any other addiction, I dont drink, dont take any drugs but I stopped taking all other medication and I can walk 20 miles before I get tired but I go to the gym alot and have more fun riding my bike. So Oprah get a life and stop selling your bull to people that have tried everything to loose weight and decide to do something about it. And by the way I lost over 200 Lbs and THANK GOD I am doing just fine. Mike wrote: " Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. " - Moynihan. That's one of my favorite quotes. > > > > > > Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. > She's > > on > > > TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > > > alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > > > Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > > > happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and > I'm > > > doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > > > problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > > > great site. Take care everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Amen Mike! Let's see if I can chat up my gym addiction: I warm up with curling 15lb dumb bells 15 times. I then hook them up over my head 15 times I then lift them on my sides 15 times. I then lift my arms out and up with them about 5 times (try this it's hard). I then do 15 leg curls and 15 leg crunches at 112.5lbs I then sit and pull down 137.5lbs 15 times I then bench press 100lbs 15 times I then work my deltoids by expanding out 80lbs 15 times I then work my pectorals by compressing in 120lbs 15 times That's about it for weight lifting. I then hop on the elliptical machine, set the resistance to level 5 (I've been told it goes up to 20 by a friend, yeah what'd he do try that level?). I then set my weight and age into it. I then set it to a gluteus workout. That's where the incline is 6, then 8, then 10, then 12, then 14, then starts over again. It does this three times throughout the workout. I do this for 25 minutes. I try to maintain 150 strides per minute. Lately I've been doing about 165 strides per minute. I'm going to need to kick the resistance up to 7 next week. I then get on the treadmill. I set the weight and age. I set the incline to 3% and choose the program aerobic one where it does three hills of 3%, then 4%, then 5%, then 6% and back down. I set the speed to 3.8mph and go for 20 minutes. Next week I'm going to kick this up to 4mph. I try to increase and build on some part of this every couple of weeks. I can't really increase the time anymore because I don't get enough sleep if I'm doing more than an hour in the gym. I do this almost every weekday. I might start doing it Saturday too in the winter. It's not really helping me lose much weight I don't think but I'm sure getting toned. I think I might have lost 10lbs in the last month or so. I guess that is something though. Keep hitting the gym and add something every few weeks. You'll be amazed where you are in a few months! Mike in GR > >> > >> Wow, I guess I'm in for some big trouble according to Oprah. She's > > on > >> TV now saying that " Thousands " of people who had this surgery are > > now > >> alcoholic's, drug abusers, sleeping around on thier spouses etc. > >> Apparently I only traded one addiction for another. I don't see > > that > >> happening. Well Oprah, I had the surgery on 5 Sep this year and I'm > >> doing great. Guess I'll just do the best I can for those people > > having > >> problems and pray for them. Wish you all the best as always, this > > is a > >> great site. Take care everyone! > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, you're an animal! Impressive regimen you have there. I'm a big advocate of weight training. The more muscle you build, the higher your metabolism has to work to maintain it, thus the more fat you lose. It's the best deal in town! Probably I'm starting to sound like a broken record, broken record, broken record *CLICK* And furthermore, Oprah should just get bent... IMHO. in CA. > > > Amen Mike! > > Let's see if I can chat up my gym addiction: > > I warm up with curling 15lb dumb bells 15 times. > I then hook them up over my head 15 times > I then lift them on my sides 15 times. > I then lift my arms out and up with them about 5 times (try this it's > hard). > I then do 15 leg curls and 15 leg crunches at 112.5lbs > I then sit and pull down 137.5lbs 15 times > I then bench press 100lbs 15 times > I then work my deltoids by expanding out 80lbs 15 times > I then work my pectorals by compressing in 120lbs 15 times > > That's about it for weight lifting.... > ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, you're an animal! Impressive regimen you have there. I'm a big advocate of weight training. The more muscle you build, the higher your metabolism has to work to maintain it, thus the more fat you lose. It's the best deal in town! Probably I'm starting to sound like a broken record, broken record, broken record *CLICK* And furthermore, Oprah should just get bent... IMHO. in CA. > > > Amen Mike! > > Let's see if I can chat up my gym addiction: > > I warm up with curling 15lb dumb bells 15 times. > I then hook them up over my head 15 times > I then lift them on my sides 15 times. > I then lift my arms out and up with them about 5 times (try this it's > hard). > I then do 15 leg curls and 15 leg crunches at 112.5lbs > I then sit and pull down 137.5lbs 15 times > I then bench press 100lbs 15 times > I then work my deltoids by expanding out 80lbs 15 times > I then work my pectorals by compressing in 120lbs 15 times > > That's about it for weight lifting.... > ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Mike, you're an animal! Impressive regimen you have there. I'm a big advocate of weight training. The more muscle you build, the higher your metabolism has to work to maintain it, thus the more fat you lose. It's the best deal in town! Probably I'm starting to sound like a broken record, broken record, broken record *CLICK* And furthermore, Oprah should just get bent... IMHO. in CA. > > > Amen Mike! > > Let's see if I can chat up my gym addiction: > > I warm up with curling 15lb dumb bells 15 times. > I then hook them up over my head 15 times > I then lift them on my sides 15 times. > I then lift my arms out and up with them about 5 times (try this it's > hard). > I then do 15 leg curls and 15 leg crunches at 112.5lbs > I then sit and pull down 137.5lbs 15 times > I then bench press 100lbs 15 times > I then work my deltoids by expanding out 80lbs 15 times > I then work my pectorals by compressing in 120lbs 15 times > > That's about it for weight lifting.... > ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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