what is normal TSH for someone who does not have a disgnosis of thyroid problems

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Just curious? My dd is 5 and her TSH is 2.66, range .27-4.2

freeT4 is 1.05 range .7-1.7

Elaine

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Oh, Elaine, I feel her pain. I agree that her T4 could be a little higher, but it's not low enough to be the only cause. Does she have the other classic hypo symptoms - severe constipation, dry skin, hair, nails, fatigue? I am so happy that you're trying to help her. I've struggled all my life even on the thyroid medication. For some reason hypos can gain weight, but the medication doesn't really take it away. Can you get a free T3 to see what's going on with that? From what I've heard, the T3 is releated more to the weight issues... Judy

She is extremely overweight and I am trying to find out why. She does not eat enough to be this heavy. I am trying to help her. I am hypo and I just had a feeling. She is adopted so I have no idea about the birthparents. From what I understand the T4 should be a lot higher. Elaine

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While her labs look “normal” her T4 can be in the upper to high end as well as her T3F... TSH can be as low as 1.0 or under.

Are they doing further tests, i.e. Cortisol, adrenals, hormonal?

Sue

She is extremely overweight and I am trying to find out why. She

does not eat enough to be this heavy. I am trying to help her.

I am hypo and I just had a feeling. She is adopted so I have no idea

about the birthparents.

From what I understand the T4 should be a lot higher.

Elaine

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Thanks for your help. I wish I had asked about the T3. I am going

to next week. She does have severe dry skin and hair but I

attributed that to her race.

I am hypo and am frustrated that I have gained and can't loose. But

I have not had my T3 tested either.

Elaine

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> Oh, Elaine, I feel her pain. I agree that her T4 could be a

little higher, but it's not low enough to be the only cause. Does

she have the other classic hypo symptoms - severe constipation, dry

skin, hair, nails, fatigue? I am so happy that you're trying to

help her. I've struggled all my life even on the thyroid

medication. For some reason hypos can gain weight, but the

medication doesn't really take it away. Can you get a free T3 to

see what's going on with that? From what I've heard, the T3 is

releated more to the weight issues... Judy

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> She is extremely overweight and I am trying to find out why. She

> does not eat enough to be this heavy. I am trying to help her.

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> I am hypo and I just had a feeling. She is adopted so I have no

idea

> about the birthparents.

>

> From what I understand the T4 should be a lot higher.

> Elaine

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No as of yet they say they are normal, until I told them my endo

said TSH around 1. So I think when we go back next week I can get

them to do the rest. I have to do my research first and present my

info. You know, educate the pediatrician.

Elaine

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> > She is extremely overweight and I am trying to find out why. She

> > does not eat enough to be this heavy. I am trying to help her.

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> > I am hypo and I just had a feeling. She is adopted so I have no

idea

> > about the birthparents.

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> > From what I understand the T4 should be a lot higher.

> > Elaine

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Hi Elaine. It's really hard to lose weight when you're hypo, even when properly medicated. I have no idea why that is. Please try not to let your daughter see your frustration. I can't stress how important it is that you not let her in on anything that you're doing. What I mean by that, is that at that age, you control all of her food and activities, so it would be easy for you to alter it as you need to without making a big deal out of it.

I don't know if you were overweight as a child, but I was (at a time when most people weren't) and I can remember my brothers eating chips while I had carrot sticks. I didn't know why I was so different, but already I felt inferior and I have carried that stigma with me for decades. Intellectually, I know that it's not true, but it's a very hard habit to break. I am still battling my weight to this day and probably always will. I believe that if I hadn't been so tortured by it as a child, that I would not be as heavy today. I went on my first doctor ordered 800 cal/day diet when I was thirteen years old. We all know now that is not enough food, but it started 40 years of yoyo dieting.

I'm really glad that you came back because this has been on my mind since my last post. Take from it what you will, and I'm certainly not telling you how to raise your daughter, just providing a perspective that you may not have thought of. My sister was a 5'10", 120 lb, blonde haired, crystal ball queen with straight A's. Tough act to follow... Judy

Thanks for your help. I wish I had asked about the T3. I am going to next week. She does have severe dry skin and hair but I attributed that to her race. I am hypo and am frustrated that I have gained and can't loose. But I have not had my T3 tested either. Elaine

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> Just curious? My dd is 5 and her TSH is 2.66, range .27-4.2

> freeT4 is 1.05 range .7-1.7

>

> Elaine

>

Your DD is only 5 years old yet you are using adult ranges for the lab

work.. a child does have a much higher TSH then an adult and both TSH

and FT4 ranges should be different.. maybe ask the labs for the ranges

they use for her age group..

I do not want to be skeptical here.. obviously there is some reason

for getting labs done on a 5 year old , what symptoms and signs is she

showing and what other tests did the doctor do?

Kats3boys

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> Mostly overweight. 95 in weight and only 50 in height. Can't run

> without problems. Does not eat enough to be this heavy. Although

> she is adopted my boys eat more and weight less. Definitely a

slow

> metabolism. Her temp in the ear at the doctors was 96.1

>

> Elaine

Have they tested iron? Is she another nationality? Sickle cell

enemia? Blood sugar levels?

You say she is adopted, how long has she been with you?

One issue with adopting besides not having a medical record is that

depending on where she was before you adopted her is a lot of them

tend to have what is called hoarding skills..they only get attention

come meal time and tend to hoard food...

I mention this cause my girlfriend adopted a 14 month old.. and

he already had this embedded into him..when she asked around, did

tests etc..she was told by physcologists that this is what can

happen.. basically he was left in a playpen all day and let out to

eat..he was taken care of, fed , clean etc.. but had more of an

attachment to food..now that he is just over three, he runs and

plays and has slimmed down quite a bit..she still has to monitor his

meals and food though..he eats lots but does not seem to have the I

am full switch so she has to portion his meals knowing he will eat

what ever size plate you give him..He is a meth baby though so they

say it makes it worse and he will have to be taught portion control

as he will never learn this ability.

Kats3boys

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Yes, she is not anemic. We got her when she was 21 days. No, she

was tested for sickle cell anemia when she was born. At least that

is what I was told.

I may pursue the blood sugar levels. Good idea.

Elaine

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> > Mostly overweight. 95 in weight and only 50 in height. Can't

run

> > without problems. Does not eat enough to be this heavy.

Although

> > she is adopted my boys eat more and weight less. Definitely a

> slow

> > metabolism. Her temp in the ear at the doctors was 96.1

> >

> > Elaine

>

> Have they tested iron? Is she another nationality? Sickle cell

> enemia? Blood sugar levels?

> You say she is adopted, how long has she been with you?

> One issue with adopting besides not having a medical record is

that

> depending on where she was before you adopted her is a lot of them

> tend to have what is called hoarding skills..they only get

attention

> come meal time and tend to hoard food...

> I mention this cause my girlfriend adopted a 14 month old.. and

> he already had this embedded into him..when she asked around, did

> tests etc..she was told by physcologists that this is what can

> happen.. basically he was left in a playpen all day and let out to

> eat..he was taken care of, fed , clean etc.. but had more of an

> attachment to food..now that he is just over three, he runs and

> plays and has slimmed down quite a bit..she still has to monitor

his

> meals and food though..he eats lots but does not seem to have the

I

> am full switch so she has to portion his meals knowing he will eat

> what ever size plate you give him..He is a meth baby though so

they

> say it makes it worse and he will have to be taught portion

control

> as he will never learn this ability.

>

> Kats3boys

>