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There are approximately 3 types of thyroid antibodies in Graves Disease, so definitely, super definitely, autoimmune disease. The antibodies for this are the TSI (Thyroid Stimulating type), and definitely another one called the TrAb, which, I think is the Thyroid Releasing Antibody? (Somebody help me here, lol) I read about another one for Graves, and my mind is totally blank on it right now. There is absolutely no question about it being autoimmune. It is "the girls" that have 3 eyes, ma dear, not you or her.

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I have no idea. I really don't know anything about Grave's or autoimmune thyroid disease. Maybe some grave's is and some grave's isn't. I have your basic, run of the mill, underactive thyroid gland. I just did some Googling on Grave's disease and it looks like the girls might want to do some too! Sure looks like autoimmune to me...

http://www.ngdf.org/faq.htm

If it is autoimmune, it doesn't surprise me that they don't know. A lot of people have autoimmune disorders but are never told that by the doc. There are a few things in my family the are autoimmune, but I had no idea.

Anyway, what I posted is just a direct quote from somewhere. It sounds like if someone is not on the antithyroid drugs, that they may be able to donate. If you check it out with your doner location, give us the scoop... Judy

THANK YOU! I looked at the website for the redcross and it had nothing on it regarding this. There's some girls that are in the training class that say they have Graves, but say it's not an autoimmune disease. I don't get it. They've had it for years, but from what you all say here, it is. It makes sense that it is, if your body attacks something, it's autoimmune. Can you figure out why they'd say that? They looked at me like I had 3 eyes or something when I said that it was.

Graves' disease or hyperthyroidism patients who are on antithyroid medicines, or who are not currently in normal thyroid range, cannot give blood.

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I'm gonna ask on thursday when they go thru the questions with you and see what's going on and report back. SpiffJudy P wrote: I have no idea. I really don't know anything about Grave's or autoimmune thyroid disease. Maybe some grave's is and some grave's isn't. I have your basic, run of the mill, underactive thyroid gland. I just did some Googling on Grave's disease and it looks like the girls might want

to do some too! Sure looks like autoimmune to me... http://www.ngdf.org/faq.htm If it is autoimmune, it doesn't surprise me that they don't know. A lot of people have autoimmune disorders but are never told that by the doc. There are a few things in my family the are autoimmune, but I had no idea. Anyway, what I posted is just a direct quote from somewhere. It sounds like if someone is not on the antithyroid drugs, that they may be able to donate. If you check it out

with your doner location, give us the scoop... Judy THANK YOU! I looked at the website for the redcross and it had nothing on it regarding this. There's some girls that are in the training class that say they have Graves, but say it's not an autoimmune disease. I don't get it. They've had it for years, but from what you all say here, it is. It makes sense that it is, if your body attacks something, it's autoimmune. Can you figure out why they'd say that? They looked at me like I had 3 eyes or something when I said that it was. Graves' disease or hyperthyroidism patients who are on antithyroid medicines, or who are not currently in normal thyroid range, cannot give blood. Get your email

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Well I'm not on any medication just yet. Will explain more in a later post.Spifftopper2@... wrote: I checked into that myself years ago... There hasn't been any evidence that donating blood when you have either Hashi's or Grave's will give the recipient the same auto immune disorder.. the issue becomes how your body will react. Donating blood reduces your blood volume for the several days that it takes for your body to replace it... so during that period of time (depending on how

efficiently your body is able to replace that blood) the dosage of thyroid meds will cause your blood levels to be slightly higher... which doesn't cause a problem, for the most part, cuz our bodies react to the active hormones that have attached to receptors.... but.. it can reduce SLIGHTLY the amount of blood moving through the capillaries. The thing that was suggested to me was that if I went to not go more than every 2nd or 3rd week.. to reduce concentration fluctuations.... I ended up not going.. cuz I couldn't get transportation in to the clinic.. the friend that was going stopped going... Personally I don't think it's such a hot idea if you are still trying to optimize your levels and are adjusting your dose.. but that's an opinion.... Topper () On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff

<mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes: K, now that we've got people working on the dry eyes, what about donating blood? I've got an apt here at work for the blood drive they have and there was one lady that said she couldn't give blood because she has Graves. We got to talking about giving blood and thyroid and she says you're not supposed to. I've given blood at all the drives and they've never once mentioned that. I never even thought to ask, but since my numbers should be back today and I should be getting on some sort of meds before the 31st blood drive, I need to ask. But I thought I'd throw this out there for anybody who might know. Am also going to look this up on the red cross site as well. Spiff O+

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Well I'm not on any medication just yet. Will explain more in a later post.Spifftopper2@... wrote: I checked into that myself years ago... There hasn't been any evidence that donating blood when you have either Hashi's or Grave's will give the recipient the same auto immune disorder.. the issue becomes how your body will react. Donating blood reduces your blood volume for the several days that it takes for your body to replace it... so during that period of time (depending on how

efficiently your body is able to replace that blood) the dosage of thyroid meds will cause your blood levels to be slightly higher... which doesn't cause a problem, for the most part, cuz our bodies react to the active hormones that have attached to receptors.... but.. it can reduce SLIGHTLY the amount of blood moving through the capillaries. The thing that was suggested to me was that if I went to not go more than every 2nd or 3rd week.. to reduce concentration fluctuations.... I ended up not going.. cuz I couldn't get transportation in to the clinic.. the friend that was going stopped going... Personally I don't think it's such a hot idea if you are still trying to optimize your levels and are adjusting your dose.. but that's an opinion.... Topper () On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff

<mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes: K, now that we've got people working on the dry eyes, what about donating blood? I've got an apt here at work for the blood drive they have and there was one lady that said she couldn't give blood because she has Graves. We got to talking about giving blood and thyroid and she says you're not supposed to. I've given blood at all the drives and they've never once mentioned that. I never even thought to ask, but since my numbers should be back today and I should be getting on some sort of meds before the 31st blood drive, I need to ask. But I thought I'd throw this out there for anybody who might know. Am also going to look this up on the red cross site as well. Spiff O+

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Well I'm not on any medication just yet. Will explain more in a later post.Spifftopper2@... wrote: I checked into that myself years ago... There hasn't been any evidence that donating blood when you have either Hashi's or Grave's will give the recipient the same auto immune disorder.. the issue becomes how your body will react. Donating blood reduces your blood volume for the several days that it takes for your body to replace it... so during that period of time (depending on how

efficiently your body is able to replace that blood) the dosage of thyroid meds will cause your blood levels to be slightly higher... which doesn't cause a problem, for the most part, cuz our bodies react to the active hormones that have attached to receptors.... but.. it can reduce SLIGHTLY the amount of blood moving through the capillaries. The thing that was suggested to me was that if I went to not go more than every 2nd or 3rd week.. to reduce concentration fluctuations.... I ended up not going.. cuz I couldn't get transportation in to the clinic.. the friend that was going stopped going... Personally I don't think it's such a hot idea if you are still trying to optimize your levels and are adjusting your dose.. but that's an opinion.... Topper () On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DerSpiff

<mzspiff (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes: K, now that we've got people working on the dry eyes, what about donating blood? I've got an apt here at work for the blood drive they have and there was one lady that said she couldn't give blood because she has Graves. We got to talking about giving blood and thyroid and she says you're not supposed to. I've given blood at all the drives and they've never once mentioned that. I never even thought to ask, but since my numbers should be back today and I should be getting on some sort of meds before the 31st blood drive, I need to ask. But I thought I'd throw this out there for anybody who might know. Am also going to look this up on the red cross site as well. Spiff O+

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Well, ya, that's kinda what I thought, but thanks for the compliment! I've been studying on this stuff and learning from the group. They're from CAL so....and it seems that most of the people from there think people up here are ignorant, which begs the questsion why move up here if you're gonna be surrounded by ignorant people. AN-EE-HOW, I just wanted to see what you all thought. Spiff ( HATES the nickname they have for the state......I don't live in Montucky! ) wrote: There are approximately 3 types of thyroid antibodies in Graves Disease, so definitely, super definitely, autoimmune disease. The antibodies for this are the TSI (Thyroid Stimulating type), and definitely another one called the TrAb, which, I think is the Thyroid Releasing Antibody? (Somebody help me here, lol) I read about another one for Graves, and my mind is totally blank on it right now. There is absolutely no question about it being autoimmune. It is "the girls" that have 3 eyes, ma dear, not you or her. Re: Another question I have no idea. I really don't know anything about Grave's or autoimmune thyroid disease. Maybe some grave's is and some grave's isn't. I have your basic, run of the mill, underactive thyroid gland. I just did some Googling on Grave's disease and it looks like the girls might want to do some too! Sure looks like autoimmune to me... http://www.ngdf.org/faq.htm If it is autoimmune, it doesn't surprise me that they don't know. A lot of people have autoimmune disorders but are never told that by the doc. There are a few things in my family the are autoimmune, but I had no idea. Anyway, what I posted is just a direct quote from somewhere. It sounds like if someone is not on the antithyroid drugs, that they may be able to donate. If you check it out with your doner location, give us the scoop... Judy THANK YOU! I looked at the website for the redcross and it had nothing on it regarding this. There's some girls that are in the training class that say they have Graves, but say it's not an autoimmune disease. I don't get it. They've had it for years, but from what you all say here, it is. It makes sense that it is, if your body attacks something, it's autoimmune. Can you figure out why they'd say that? They looked at me like I had 3 eyes or something when I said that it was. Graves' disease or hyperthyroidism patients who are on antithyroid medicines, or who are not currently in normal thyroid range, cannot give blood.

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> There are approximately 3 types of thyroid antibodies in Graves

Disease, so definitely, super definitely, autoimmune disease. The

antibodies for this are the TSI (Thyroid Stimulating type), and

definitely another one called the TrAb, which, I think is the

Thyroid Releasing Antibody? (Somebody help me here, lol) I read

about another one for Graves, and my mind is totally blank on it

right now. There is absolutely no question about it being

autoimmune. It is " the girls " that have 3 eyes, ma dear, not you or

her.

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TRAB is total receptor antibodies..most places thi sis the only

Grave's test you can get done..

TSI is Thyroid stimulating Antibody this is considered the most

accurate for Graves..

TBII is total blocking Antibodies.. this is a newer test and TSI

+TBII equals TRAB..but by using TBII they are trying to determine

who is at more risk of going hypo after Grave's or what effect TBII

has on increased chance of Grave's eye disease.

TPO which is the antibody most of you are familiar with is also seen

in Grave's..but in a mucher lower range..TPO antibodies seen in

Grave's is usually caused by inflammation of the thyroid..

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