RE: Needle phobia

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Alyson. I think that was the name. I know it was short. Just thought

someone had mentioned it as a patch. I am going to look for some cause after

yesterday I don't trust anyone at Denver Health to be able to stick a needle in

a vein without pain (except at the clinic I usually go to).

Darlene

Re: Needle phobia

I'm not sure about a patch, but there is a cream available at pharmacies

without a prescription called Emla. I used it when I was younger for some laser

surgery, and it worked quite well. I know a lot of parents use it when their

children get immunizations to minimize the trauma. I think it is available by

prescription as well, if that is a concern.

http://www.emla-us.com/<http://www.emla-us.com/>

http://www.skinsite.com/info_emla_cream.htm<http://www.skinsite.com/info_emla_cr\

eam.htm>

[Guest guest]

the last time my dau got her ears pierced, they used MediSept Ear Care Gel

to deaden her lobes.

If I remember they put a small amount on & let it set then cleaned it off

with alcohol, and then

afterwards put another drop on.

the active ingredients are:

benzalkonium chloride 0.01%, with a base of aloe, glycerin,

hydrozyethyicellulose, polyoxyethylene sorbitan monolaurate, metyl

parahidroxibenzoate, sodium benzoate, alcohol 5.0%, butylene glycol, fd & c #1

blue, purified water.

distributed by MediSept, Lomita, Ca

I have no idea if this would be a good idea to use before hand, but a drop

afterwards could be okay.

( & no, I have no connection to this company or product except as a parent of

a kid who used it)

beth

[Guest guest]

Today the guy who did the CT scan

> couldn't get the needle in my vein and just about killed me. Any help

> would be appreciated.

Hey Darlene,

I just saw your post. When that happens to me and I feel they don't

know what they are doing I ask for someone else to do it. It's my

body and I'm not going to let someone just dig around with a needle in

a vein if they can't find it. They can do more damage. You can

always refuse and say get someone else. I found that out the hard way

when in the hospital. They have new people who learn as they go along

and sometimes don't want to ask for help or admit they can't do it.

Anyone experienced can do a hard to find vein. That's my suggestion

if you have a problem ask for an expert. We always have a right to

refuse if they are hurting us. They usually keep trying until or

unless you protest.

[Guest guest]

Today the guy who did the CT scan

> couldn't get the needle in my vein and just about killed me. Any help

> would be appreciated.

Hey Darlene,

I just saw your post. When that happens to me and I feel they don't

know what they are doing I ask for someone else to do it. It's my

body and I'm not going to let someone just dig around with a needle in

a vein if they can't find it. They can do more damage. You can

always refuse and say get someone else. I found that out the hard way

when in the hospital. They have new people who learn as they go along

and sometimes don't want to ask for help or admit they can't do it.

Anyone experienced can do a hard to find vein. That's my suggestion

if you have a problem ask for an expert. We always have a right to

refuse if they are hurting us. They usually keep trying until or

unless you protest.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/10/2006 7:21:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kittynicekitty@... writes:

People with cancer get ports

installed because their veins sometimes can't take

all the chemo they have to have.

and sometimes the ports do not work. I know because it happened to me. I

had to calm down my nurse. After she had tried my arm several times, she then

tried using the port. No luck, it just wasn't working. She was getting

upset because she thought she was hurting me, which she wasn't. Once I got her

calmed down, she was able to get the blood.

hugs

Eunice

[Guest guest]

Well, I talked to my doctor and she gave me the prescription for the EMLA. NO

ONE, NOT EVEN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU HAS THE RIGHT TO KEEP

SOMEONE IN PAIN OR PUT SOMEONE IN PAIN LIKE YOU AND MOST OF THE MEDICAL

PROFESSION WANTS TO DO! IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND MOST OF THE MEDICAL

PROFESSION ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE MONEY THEY MAKE AND TO GET THROUGH AS FAST

AS THEY CAN, NOT IN THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING. REMEMBER, THE

MEDICAL PROFESSION IS SUPPOSED TO FIRST DO NO HARM, AND YOU ARE NOT DOING IT.

Re: Re: Needle phobia

Darlene, knock yourself out. It may be your right to ask for the area to be

numbed. You can ask for just about anything. That doesn't mean it will

happen. Maybe you would have better luck discussing this with your doctor

and possibly getting a Valium to take prior to the procedure to reduce your

anxiety.

Sorry I'm not telling you what you want to hear.

Mike

On 4/10/06, D HURLEY

<smartandfancyartistry@...> wrote:

>

> I also don't care whether you could do it better or not, or whether they

> want to take any time to numb the area first. If I ask them to numb the

> area, it is my right to have it numbed. Otherwise, if they cause pain like

> the other two did, everyone will be running from that operating room or

> wherever I am at the time!

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Becky. I just get so tired of those who say " too bad " when you are

in pain for some reason. Just have to thank God for Dr. Fedde.

Darlene

Re: Needle phobia

Darlene, YOU GO GIRL! People with cancer get ports

installed because their veins sometimes can't take

all the chemo they have to have. I read messages all

the time from people whose veins basically no longer

work so they have to have bloodwork done from dreadful

places such as the veins in their feet.

The EMLA cream is very effective if you put it on the

right length of time before your vein is to be stuck.

Good luck to you, and boo to lazy nurses who haven't

put your comfort first! It sounds like you have a good

doctor who will, I hope, keep the other medical

professionals in line and " on your team. " Best of luck

to you upon your upcoming surgery.

Hugs,

Becky Carver

[Guest guest]

Like I said. Knock yourself out. I'm glad your doctor gave you the

prescription. Now it's up to you to use it an adequate amount of time prior

to having blood drawn to have it work.

You certainly are making alot of assumptions here. I hope you can treat

your health care professionals much better than you are treating me.

I'm only pointing out some of the reality here. Great that you have the Rx

and I hope it works; the ball is in your court.

I've NEVER said 'too bad' to your situation. Your characterizations of the

medical profession may be what cause you the most problems. Most in the

profession are simply trying to do the best job they can with the tools they

are given. And, in many cases have to put up with far more abuse than the

should.

Mike

>

> Well, I talked to my doctor and she gave me the prescription for the

> EMLA. NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU HAS THE

> RIGHT TO KEEP SOMEONE IN PAIN OR PUT SOMEONE IN PAIN LIKE YOU AND MOST OF

> THE MEDICAL PROFESSION WANTS TO DO! IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND MOST

> OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE MONEY THEY MAKE AND TO

> GET THROUGH AS FAST AS THEY CAN, NOT IN THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

> SERVING. REMEMBER, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION IS SUPPOSED TO FIRST DO NO HARM,

> AND YOU ARE NOT DOING IT.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Becky and Darlene, you both have a right to your opinion regarding the

people in the medical profession.

BUT...I am a former nurse, and I take offense at you, Becky, referring to " lazy

nurses " . I was NEVER asked to do anything by ANY patient to make them more

comfortable that I refused to do. Maybe you have a problem, whatever it is,

either of you, but I think that this is enough of the bashing of the medical

professionals. I have heard enough! Now, if someone has a problem, ask for

help with it. Let's get back to helping each other, not being petty, not

putting down all the medical professionals.

ENOUGH!

Tucson Kitty

---- Original Message -----

From: kittynicekitty

To: diabetes

Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:21 PM

Subject: Re: Needle phobia

Darlene, YOU GO GIRL! People with cancer get ports

installed because their veins sometimes can't take

all the chemo they have to have. I read messages all

the time from people whose veins basically no longer

work so they have to have bloodwork done from dreadful

places such as the veins in their feet.

The EMLA cream is very effective if you put it on the

right length of time before your vein is to be stuck.

Good luck to you, and boo to lazy nurses who haven't

put your comfort first! It sounds like you have a good

doctor who will, I hope, keep the other medical

professionals in line and " on your team. " Best of luck

to you upon your upcoming surgery.

Hugs,

Becky Carver

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...I talked to my doctor and she gave me the prescription for the

EMLA....

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[Guest guest]

When they continually lie to people and don't even try to make something hurt

less, then, yes, they are purposely inflicting pain. It doesn't take that long

to put a little cream on an area and then go somewhere else and do whatever else

you have to do. The way you said to " knock yourself out " indicates a " too bad "

expression. The medical profession knows that the numbing cream is out there,

but they choose not to use it. I haven't been nasty to them, they have been

nasty to me.

Re: Re: Needle phobia

Like I said. Knock yourself out. I'm glad your doctor gave you the

prescription. Now it's up to you to use it an adequate amount of time prior

to having blood drawn to have it work.

You certainly are making alot of assumptions here. I hope you can treat

your health care professionals much better than you are treating me.

I'm only pointing out some of the reality here. Great that you have the Rx

and I hope it works; the ball is in your court.

I've NEVER said 'too bad' to your situation. Your characterizations of the

medical profession may be what cause you the most problems. Most in the

profession are simply trying to do the best job they can with the tools they

are given. And, in many cases have to put up with far more abuse than the

should.

Mike

On 4/10/06, D HURLEY

<smartandfancyartistry@...> wrote:

>

> Well, I talked to my doctor and she gave me the prescription for the

> EMLA. NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION OR SOMEONE LIKE YOU HAS THE

> RIGHT TO KEEP SOMEONE IN PAIN OR PUT SOMEONE IN PAIN LIKE YOU AND MOST OF

> THE MEDICAL PROFESSION WANTS TO DO! IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND MOST

> OF THE MEDICAL PROFESSION ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE MONEY THEY MAKE AND TO

> GET THROUGH AS FAST AS THEY CAN, NOT IN THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

> SERVING. REMEMBER, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION IS SUPPOSED TO FIRST DO NO HARM,

> AND YOU ARE NOT DOING IT.

>

[Guest guest]

I did not put down the ENTIRE medical profession. I have said that those at

Lowry are very consciensious and most of them caring. Those I have run into at

the hospital are definitely not. I have been lied to by them and hurt by them.

You may have never refused to do something, but they do there and it is obvious

that Mike feels they should be refusing because they " don't have time " to make

someone comfortable.

Re: Needle phobia

Darlene, YOU GO GIRL! People with cancer get ports

installed because their veins sometimes can't take

all the chemo they have to have. I read messages all

the time from people whose veins basically no longer

work so they have to have bloodwork done from dreadful

places such as the veins in their feet.

The EMLA cream is very effective if you put it on the

right length of time before your vein is to be stuck.

Good luck to you, and boo to lazy nurses who haven't

put your comfort first! It sounds like you have a good

doctor who will, I hope, keep the other medical

professionals in line and " on your team. " Best of luck

to you upon your upcoming surgery.

Hugs,

Becky Carver

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wrote:

...I talked to my doctor and she gave me the prescription for the

EMLA....

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Hey,

Some of the responsibility has to lie with you. I had chemo five days a week,

once a month, for six months, and a lot of blood tests during those six months,

plus a lot of iv's during the month I spent in hospital prior to that, when I

was fed intravenously.

I am only stating this because, I have had A LOT of blood drawn, or sticks for

needles. One thing I learned early on is that if I was uptight and tense, then

it was a whole lot harder for the nurse to get the needle in. If I made a

conscious effort to relax, and it was easier on both of us. If I was uptight,

then the vein would collapse, and no blood, but pain instead.

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