Re: Has anyone ever experienced gluten related intolerance to meat?

[Guest guest]

>

> ... So, I called

> a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE for

> the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly before

> slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2 months

> and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since we

> learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for our

> use with very good results.

> I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had symtptoms

> of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

not.

In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening. And

yet, I was glutened.

Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an explanation

as to why I would have become sick.

I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

And I rarely eat beef at home.

Interesting stuff.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Esther in RI

[Guest guest]

>

> ... So, I called

> a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE for

> the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly before

> slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2 months

> and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since we

> learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for our

> use with very good results.

> I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had symtptoms

> of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

not.

In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening. And

yet, I was glutened.

Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an explanation

as to why I would have become sick.

I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

And I rarely eat beef at home.

Interesting stuff.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Esther in RI

[Guest guest]

That’s fascinating…I’m

so glad that someone with cattle raising experience brought this up! I have

tried to buy only naturally-fed meat sources since going gf just for the sake

of giving my body the purest foods that are therefore easier to digest. But

here’s the important question. Do you sell your nearly-organic beef to

fellow celiacs and where are you??? J

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks

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12:29 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Has anyone

ever experienced gluten related intolerance to meat?

My family recently experienced a strange phenomena. I wanted to

share it with the members to see if anyone else had a similar

symptoms.

Several of my husbands family members are Celiac and casein

intolerant.

We raise (nearly) organic beef cattle. My mother in law is also

Multiple Chemical sensitive. Therefore, we don't use any chemicals

near or on our farm. To clarify this picture, we eat as pure foods

as we can grow or raise. My mother in law is VERY sensitive, much

more than my husband. The year before last was a BAD corn year. My

husband finished off our beef cattle with a higher quanity of grains

than corn because of it. Later that year, my mother in law had a

beef butchered and became sick with gluten symptoms every time she

ate the beef. ??? We began to make the connection but found it

strange that the feed could affect the meat like this... So, I calle

da scientist I know from Canada

and he told me i t is POSSIBLE for

the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly before

slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2 months

and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since we

learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for our

use with very good results.

I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had symtptoms

of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

Thanks

Tammy

[Guest guest]

I certainly know the feeling. I cannot digest pork at all (not sure

why) and have difficulty with " supermarket meats " where I always

immediatly get sick from eating it. I found a source for organic meat

locally (costly, but I don't eat meat every day) and have not had

aproblem since. I avoid restaurant meat (except GF menue ones where I

don't seem to have a problem).

Your quite lucky to have your cattle....care to share?

in South Florida

>

> My family recently experienced a strange phenomena. I wanted to

> share it with the members to see if anyone else had a similar

> symptoms.

>

> Several of my husbands family members are Celiac and casein

> intolerant.

> We raise (nearly) organic beef cattle. My mother in law is also

> Multiple Chemical sensitive. Therefore, we don't use any chemicals

> near or on our farm. To clarify this picture, we eat as pure foods

> as we can grow or raise. My mother in law is VERY sensitive, much

> more than my husband. The year before last was a BAD corn year. My

> husband finished off our beef cattle with a higher quanity of grains

> than corn because of it. Later that year, my mother in law had a

> beef butchered and became sick with gluten symptoms every time she

> ate the beef. ??? We began to make the connection but found it

> strange that the feed could affect the meat like this... So, I calle

> da scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE for

> the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly before

> slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2 months

> and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since we

> learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for our

> use with very good results.

> I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had symtptoms

> of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

> symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

> Thanks

> Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

I never had any kind of gluten reaction from eating meat as a child,

although it seemed that I had some kind of Turkey intolerance. No

matter how " gluten free " the turkey was supposed to be, I still had a

bad reaction. Weird, huh? So we had cornish game hens every

thanksgiving. I haven't eaten meat for about 10 years though for

personal reasons, so for all I know they're basting the meat with

gluten before they pack it now.

SillyYaks , " dermaceliacgirl " wrote:

>

> I certainly know the feeling. I cannot digest pork at all (not sure

> why) and have difficulty with " supermarket meats " where I always

> immediatly get sick from eating it.

[Guest guest]

>

> I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had symtptoms

> of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

> symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

> Thanks

> Tammy

What an interesting question. My son has a hard time digesting most

meat, and even just the smell of turkey makes him retch, but as his

problems with meat are different from his gluten reactions, I hadn't

made a connection. I'm not sure there is a connection for him, but I

will certainly start looking into his meat reactions more closely in

the future.

Maureen

[Guest guest]

I am glad to have helped even if raising a question for a possible

answer.

Tammy

-- In SillyYaks , " marcianar " wrote:

>

>

> >

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

> > symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

> > Thanks

> > Tammy

>

> What an interesting question. My son has a hard time digesting most

> meat, and even just the smell of turkey makes him retch, but as his

> problems with meat are different from his gluten reactions, I

hadn't

> made a connection. I'm not sure there is a connection for him, but

I

> will certainly start looking into his meat reactions more closely

in

> the future.

>

> Maureen

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad to have helped even if raising a question for a possible

answer.

Tammy

-- In SillyYaks , " marcianar " wrote:

>

>

> >

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

> > symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

> > Thanks

> > Tammy

>

> What an interesting question. My son has a hard time digesting most

> meat, and even just the smell of turkey makes him retch, but as his

> problems with meat are different from his gluten reactions, I

hadn't

> made a connection. I'm not sure there is a connection for him, but

I

> will certainly start looking into his meat reactions more closely

in

> the future.

>

> Maureen

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad to have helped even if raising a question for a possible

answer.

Tammy

-- In SillyYaks , " marcianar " wrote:

>

>

> >

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef. With ours, they are

> > symptom free. Anyone else have a similat experience??

> > Thanks

> > Tammy

>

> What an interesting question. My son has a hard time digesting most

> meat, and even just the smell of turkey makes him retch, but as his

> problems with meat are different from his gluten reactions, I

hadn't

> made a connection. I'm not sure there is a connection for him, but

I

> will certainly start looking into his meat reactions more closely

in

> the future.

>

> Maureen

>

[Guest guest]

I was hoping this information might shed some light on this problem

for others. I intend to get this theory tested at a university.

Thank you for your reply.

Tammy

> >

> > ... So, I called

> > a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE

for

> > the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly

before

> > slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2

months

> > and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since

we

> > learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for

our

> > use with very good results.

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

>

> On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

> was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

> Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

> whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

> not.

>

> In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

> I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

> was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening. And

> yet, I was glutened.

>

> Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

>

> I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

> explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an explanation

> as to why I would have become sick.

>

> I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

>

> And I rarely eat beef at home.

>

> Interesting stuff.

>

> Thanks for the heads-up.

>

> Esther in RI

>

[Guest guest]

I was hoping this information might shed some light on this problem

for others. I intend to get this theory tested at a university.

Thank you for your reply.

Tammy

> >

> > ... So, I called

> > a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE

for

> > the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly

before

> > slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2

months

> > and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since

we

> > learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for

our

> > use with very good results.

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

>

> On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

> was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

> Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

> whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

> not.

>

> In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

> I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

> was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening. And

> yet, I was glutened.

>

> Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

>

> I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

> explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an explanation

> as to why I would have become sick.

>

> I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

>

> And I rarely eat beef at home.

>

> Interesting stuff.

>

> Thanks for the heads-up.

>

> Esther in RI

>

[Guest guest]

I was hoping this information might shed some light on this problem

for others. I intend to get this theory tested at a university.

Thank you for your reply.

Tammy

> >

> > ... So, I called

> > a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE

for

> > the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly

before

> > slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2

months

> > and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since

we

> > learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for

our

> > use with very good results.

> > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

symtptoms

> > of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

>

> On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

> was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

> Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

> whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

> not.

>

> In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

> I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

> was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening. And

> yet, I was glutened.

>

> Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

>

> I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

> explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an explanation

> as to why I would have become sick.

>

> I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

>

> And I rarely eat beef at home.

>

> Interesting stuff.

>

> Thanks for the heads-up.

>

> Esther in RI

>

[Guest guest]

When you do get it tested, please share the results. I think this is

very interesting!

> > >

> > > ... So, I called

> > > a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE

> for

> > > the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly

> before

> > > slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2

> months

> > > and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since

> we

> > > learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for

> our

> > > use with very good results.

> > > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

> symtptoms

> > > of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

> >

> > On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

> > was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

> > Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

> > whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

> > not.

> >

> > In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

> > I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

> > was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening.

And

> > yet, I was glutened.

> >

> > Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

> >

> > I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

> > explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an

explanation

> > as to why I would have become sick.

> >

> > I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

> >

> > And I rarely eat beef at home.

> >

> > Interesting stuff.

> >

> > Thanks for the heads-up.

> >

> > Esther in RI

> >

>

[Guest guest]

When you do get it tested, please share the results. I think this is

very interesting!

> > >

> > > ... So, I called

> > > a scientist I know from Canada and he told me i t is POSSIBLE

> for

> > > the meat to remain " contaminated " if they fed grain shortly

> before

> > > slaughter. So, we fed one cow nothing but hay and corn for 2

> months

> > > and my mother in law never got sick from the beef again. Since

> we

> > > learned this, we always finsh raising our cows GLUTEN free for

> our

> > > use with very good results.

> > > I have met a young mother of 2 little girls who also had

> symtptoms

> > > of Glutten when eating store bought beef.

> >

> > On one of my dining adventures to Bugabook Creek Steakhouse, I

> > was glutened. I've had conflicting answers from Bugaboo Steakhouse

> > Corporate, the various head cooks, and the various managers about

> > whether or not the marinades and spices at Bugaboo Creek are GF or

> > not.

> >

> > In any case, I had one meal there which I would have sworn was GF.

> > I could detect no marinade, spice or anything. The cook said it

> > was a clean pan. There should have been no cause for glutening.

And

> > yet, I was glutened.

> >

> > Perhaps I got a piece from a recently grain-fed cow?

> >

> > I have no idea. But it sure is a curious possibility and would

> > explain why I was so sick and yet no one could offer an

explanation

> > as to why I would have become sick.

> >

> > I now tend to stick to chicken and seafood in restaurants.

> >

> > And I rarely eat beef at home.

> >

> > Interesting stuff.

> >

> > Thanks for the heads-up.

> >

> > Esther in RI

> >

>