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HI

I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold bar -

basically a

FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure which)

with notches

at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

dorsiflex the feet?

Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

rectangular, I wasn't

sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and if they

will change

shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet, not

totally

cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet have

been totally

twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot shape. It is

very cool

having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity about

talipes baby feet.

How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

Tamsin

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At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

>HI

>I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

>bar - basically a

>FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

>which) with notches

>at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

>

>My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

>dorsiflex the feet?

yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to the

PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can get

the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

>rectangular, I wasn't

>sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

>if they will change

>shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet,

>not totally

>cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

>have been totally

>twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

>shape. It is very cool

>having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

>about talipes baby feet.

>How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

out of casts for parents to look at?

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

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At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

>HI

>I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

>bar - basically a

>FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

>which) with notches

>at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

>

>My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

>dorsiflex the feet?

yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to the

PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can get

the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

>rectangular, I wasn't

>sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

>if they will change

>shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet,

>not totally

>cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

>have been totally

>twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

>shape. It is very cool

>having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

>about talipes baby feet.

>How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

out of casts for parents to look at?

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

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At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

>HI

>I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

>bar - basically a

>FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

>which) with notches

>at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

>

>My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

>dorsiflex the feet?

yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to the

PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can get

the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

>rectangular, I wasn't

>sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

>if they will change

>shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet,

>not totally

>cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

>have been totally

>twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

>shape. It is very cool

>having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

>about talipes baby feet.

>How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

out of casts for parents to look at?

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

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Really stupid question here.....what is IIRC? I have puzzled and puzzled over

this one, but I just can't get it. I'm sure I'm going to feel really dumb when

I find out what it is!

Jen & Livie

Re: THE BAR

At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

>HI

>I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

>bar - basically a

>FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

>which) with notches

>at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

>

>My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

>dorsiflex the feet?

yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to the

PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can get

the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

>rectangular, I wasn't

>sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

>if they will change

>shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet,

>not totally

>cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

>have been totally

>twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

>shape. It is very cool

>having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

>about talipes baby feet.

>How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

out of casts for parents to look at?

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

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Really stupid question here.....what is IIRC? I have puzzled and puzzled over

this one, but I just can't get it. I'm sure I'm going to feel really dumb when

I find out what it is!

Jen & Livie

Re: THE BAR

At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

>HI

>I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

>bar - basically a

>FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

>which) with notches

>at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

>

>My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

>dorsiflex the feet?

yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to the

PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can get

the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

>rectangular, I wasn't

>sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

>if they will change

>shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the feet,

>not totally

>cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

>have been totally

>twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

>shape. It is very cool

>having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

>about talipes baby feet.

>How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

out of casts for parents to look at?

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

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lol, I had to ask that question about 3 years ago (after only 8 years

online duh!) and I'm so glad I finally did. It comes in handy. IIRC is If

I Remember Correctly :~}

Kori

At 05:28 PM 8/29/2004, you wrote:

>Really stupid question here.....what is IIRC? I have puzzled and puzzled

>over this one, but I just can't get it. I'm sure I'm going to feel really

>dumb when I find out what it is!

>

>Jen & Livie

> Re: THE BAR

>

>

> At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

> >HI

> >I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

> >bar - basically a

> >FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

> >which) with notches

> >at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

> >

> >My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

> >dorsiflex the feet?

>

> yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

> Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

> confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to

> the

> PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

> a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can

> get

> the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

> ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

> bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

> non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

> basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>

>

> >Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

> >rectangular, I wasn't

> >sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

> >if they will change

> >shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the

> feet,

> >not totally

> >cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

> >have been totally

> >twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

> >shape. It is very cool

> >having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

> >about talipes baby feet.

> >How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

>

> The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

> sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

> actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

> didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

> CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

> weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and

> take a

> profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

> feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

>

> Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

> section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

> pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet

> just

> out of casts for parents to look at?

>

> Kori

> Mama of

>

> Kenton 6/98

> Merek 3/00

> Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

> (¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸.·´

>

>

>

>

>

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Ahhh!!! See, I told you I would feel dumb! We've been online since 1996!!

Thanks!

Jen & Livie

Re: THE BAR

>

>

> At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

> >HI

> >I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

> >bar - basically a

> >FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

> >which) with notches

> >at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

> >

> >My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

> >dorsiflex the feet?

>

> yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

> Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

> confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to

> the

> PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

> a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can

> get

> the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

> ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

> bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

> non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

> basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>

>

> >Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

> >rectangular, I wasn't

> >sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

> >if they will change

> >shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the

> feet,

> >not totally

> >cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

> >have been totally

> >twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

> >shape. It is very cool

> >having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

> >about talipes baby feet.

> >How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

>

> The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

> sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

> actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

> didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

> CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

> weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and

> take a

> profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

> feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

>

> Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

> section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

> pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet

> just

> out of casts for parents to look at?

>

> Kori

> Mama of

>

> Kenton 6/98

> Merek 3/00

> Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

> (¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸.·´

>

>

>

>

>

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Don't feel bad, tonight is about the first time I've ever seen it either.

s.

Re: THE BAR

>

>

> At 04:04 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote:

> >HI

> >I have a question about the bar in the DBB. Our bar is an adjustable gold

> >bar - basically a

> >FLAT 9 inch long, half inch wide piece of steel or aluminium (not sure

> >which) with notches

> >at each inch marking from 6 to 9.

> >

> >My question is about dorsifexion - shouldn't the bar have a bend in it to

> >dorsiflex the feet?

>

> yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees in the

> Global World Health publication (is that what it's called? I'm

> confused! Faith just sent a note from Dr. Ponseti that has the link to

> the

> PDF in there though). You can bend the bar yourself, use a protractor and

> a vice to do it. I wouldn't want that bar personally, although you can

> get

> the shoes of it easy like the gold non-adjustable bar. The thought of the

> ends sticking out poking me is scary! I don't get why they don't make a

> bar like the red Fillauer one with mountings like the gold

> non-adjustable. It is about STUPID there have been no improvements to the

> basic DBB/FAB package in so long.

>

>

> >Also, our babe's feet came out of each cast quite chubby and sort of

> >rectangular, I wasn't

> >sure if this is from swelling or the way the foot has grown in casts and

> >if they will change

> >shape during brace wear, also the big toes are quite distinct on the

> feet,

> >not totally

> >cuddled up to the other toes. I am assuming this is all because the feet

> >have been totally

> >twisted around from their talipes shape to a more practical foot

> >shape. It is very cool

> >having his little feet to play with, I am just asking out of curiosity

> >about talipes baby feet.

> >How do other feet respond to casting and shoes over time?

>

> The clubfoot is usually more *square* looking than a normal foot. But

> sometimes a very chubby very square foot needs more attention. Faith

> actually sent me pictures of Gabe's foot last week and I noticed they

> didn't look 100% right, and apparently Dr. P. thinks he's got atypical

> CF. If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

> weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and

> take a

> profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

> feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

>

> Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

> section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

> pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet

> just

> out of casts for parents to look at?

>

> Kori

> Mama of

>

> Kenton 6/98

> Merek 3/00

> Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

> (¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

> `·.¸.·´

>

>

>

>

>

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thanks Kori,

> yup. 10-15 degrees IIRC. I am pretty sure it says 15 degrees

Zoran bent the bar the other day after receiving a lovely email from

Markell and

Jasper seems happier in the DBB (although he is still pretty cross at having to

wear

anything - we have upped the hours in the brace and the times he has off he

wriggles all

over - he does wriggle the bar but is generally pretty miserable at the moment -

not much

sleep for any of us).

I know what you mean about the ends sticking out - we wanted the adjustable bar

so that

we could get the distance right as they only stock the gold bars here and even

these they

don't seem to have many sizes in stock. We are planning to file off the ends an

inch or so

so that they don't stick out too much but still allow for adjustments.

> If you want to know if things are good, take pics (standing bearing

> weight from front and back, dorsiflex the foot as far as you can and take a

> profile shot to show how far it dorsiflexes, and one of the soles of the

> feet) and send to Dr. P. Can't hurt!

I have pics of each cast change but not weight bearing - with try to do that

this afternoon

- would it be best to make a new album and upload these - what size works well?

>

> Oh, and there are some pics of atypical CF on the CFPics group photos

> section. I moved them to the atypical CF folder today. We do need some

> pics of nicely corrected feet. Anyone got any pics of corrected feet just

> out of casts for parents to look at?

What is the protocal for emailing pics to Dr Ponseti?

Thanks for all the suggestions,

Tamsin

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