Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Please do Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:02 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today Oh - would you like for me to send the directions for doing it? s. I didn't know that. Thank you for the suggestion. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Please do Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:02 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today Oh - would you like for me to send the directions for doing it? s. I didn't know that. Thank you for the suggestion. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Oh - would you like for me to send the directions for doing it? s. I didn't know that. Thank you for the suggestion. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Oh - would you like for me to send the directions for doing it? s. I didn't know that. Thank you for the suggestion. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 OK, here's how we did it in Iowa. Sorry this will end up reading a little long: It sort of depends on how big your baby is, if he can sit up, etc., but either way you want to soak the legs in warm water with a splash of white vinegar mixed in. Either hold him up in a sink, or use an infant tub. With the tub we'd lay Everett in there and pack him around the edges with rolled up towels to keep him from falling over, add the water and vinegar and use other little towels or wash cloths to keep the top side of the casts saturated. This was easier than trying to hold a new-born upright in a sink. One or twice Everett actually fell asleep laying there in the warm water all snuggled around with soft towels. The hard part is soaking them 20 to 30 minutes, so if you can plan it when they are sleepy it's good, maybe he'll sleep in the bath like Everett would. Be there to keep him happy and entertained ya know. Oh also, " Knead " the casts as they soak, help the water get down inside the casts, press around the thigh, knee, toes areas and it'll start to soften up quite a bit until you can nearly poke your fingers right through them. This kneading helps the water soak in deeper to work better. After your time is up, take the baby out, give him a fresh rinse of water if you want, and diaper him, then roll a wet towel around each cast to keep them from drying out, then wrap each leg in a trash bag or plastic wrap, just to keep the soggy towels from sogging up your furniture and car seat on the way there, and to help maintain the moisture against the plaster. The vinegar is really the key ingredient here. There is a real difference between soaking with it and soaking with out it. Once the nurse is there prepared to remove the cast, unwrap your plastic and towels (take a plastic sack with you to put your towels in to bring home) from the legs and the nurse should be able to cut the casts off with scissors. When we removed our last pair at home after the tenotomy, my dh cut them so smoothly and easily down each side that I was able to fasten them back together to look whole; I dried them out carefully to keep them (I have a pair of my 1st son's casts too, weird, I know). If any of that was not clear let me know and I'll try to explain it better. Although the soaking is time consuming and makes a little mess, I still found it a much better alternative to the saw. Good Luck, s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 OK, here's how we did it in Iowa. Sorry this will end up reading a little long: It sort of depends on how big your baby is, if he can sit up, etc., but either way you want to soak the legs in warm water with a splash of white vinegar mixed in. Either hold him up in a sink, or use an infant tub. With the tub we'd lay Everett in there and pack him around the edges with rolled up towels to keep him from falling over, add the water and vinegar and use other little towels or wash cloths to keep the top side of the casts saturated. This was easier than trying to hold a new-born upright in a sink. One or twice Everett actually fell asleep laying there in the warm water all snuggled around with soft towels. The hard part is soaking them 20 to 30 minutes, so if you can plan it when they are sleepy it's good, maybe he'll sleep in the bath like Everett would. Be there to keep him happy and entertained ya know. Oh also, " Knead " the casts as they soak, help the water get down inside the casts, press around the thigh, knee, toes areas and it'll start to soften up quite a bit until you can nearly poke your fingers right through them. This kneading helps the water soak in deeper to work better. After your time is up, take the baby out, give him a fresh rinse of water if you want, and diaper him, then roll a wet towel around each cast to keep them from drying out, then wrap each leg in a trash bag or plastic wrap, just to keep the soggy towels from sogging up your furniture and car seat on the way there, and to help maintain the moisture against the plaster. The vinegar is really the key ingredient here. There is a real difference between soaking with it and soaking with out it. Once the nurse is there prepared to remove the cast, unwrap your plastic and towels (take a plastic sack with you to put your towels in to bring home) from the legs and the nurse should be able to cut the casts off with scissors. When we removed our last pair at home after the tenotomy, my dh cut them so smoothly and easily down each side that I was able to fasten them back together to look whole; I dried them out carefully to keep them (I have a pair of my 1st son's casts too, weird, I know). If any of that was not clear let me know and I'll try to explain it better. Although the soaking is time consuming and makes a little mess, I still found it a much better alternative to the saw. Good Luck, s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking about it. Pam and (8-12-01) > > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if > anyone > > else was going this week too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking about it. Pam and (8-12-01) > > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if > anyone > > else was going this week too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Darbi always had her casts sawn off. We also see a Ponseti trained Dr. After hearing about how tedious it is to soak them off, I was glad for the saw. There was enough going on in my life at the time with two older children to have to spend two hours holding a baby over a tub of vinegar water. I also liked that there was usually less than an hour between her getting the cast off and another applied. The cast saw doesn't rotate, but rather vibrates and only *cuts* hard material. That doesn't mean it can't *rub* the skin causing a sort of burn or skinned area if the padding is to thin in an area (over the ankle bone for example). One time Darbs did get a little saw mark. The poor cast tech was upset, he remarked that he hates when that happens and was worried about it because he watched them cast her the week prior and had noticed the padding was thin there. It was a small little skinned area only and she had no problems with it at all. Sawing instead of soaking also allows you to take the cast home and especially with the last cast, if you have it whole you can use it to compare to the DBB angle so you know if it's set right or not. She did cry during the removal process, the saw is loud and she didn't like that. But really, it didn't bother me much at all. She probably wouldn't have liked sitting in a bath of vinegar and cried during that too so either way it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience. But sawing takes all of 2 minutes and it's done. I have absolutely no problems with the sawing, babies will cry. That's what they do when they're in situations they don't understand. If the noise bothers his ears, just put your hands over them while the saw is on. Kori Mama of Kenton 6/98 Merek 3/00 Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ At 10:21 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think >this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but >not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never >had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one >cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! >I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies >work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day >surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was >brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I >heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears >started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I >guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking >about it. > >Pam and (8-12-01) > > > > When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also >used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two >occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was >pushed through too deep. > > > > If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at >home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the >dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too >much. > > s. > > > > Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Darbi always had her casts sawn off. We also see a Ponseti trained Dr. After hearing about how tedious it is to soak them off, I was glad for the saw. There was enough going on in my life at the time with two older children to have to spend two hours holding a baby over a tub of vinegar water. I also liked that there was usually less than an hour between her getting the cast off and another applied. The cast saw doesn't rotate, but rather vibrates and only *cuts* hard material. That doesn't mean it can't *rub* the skin causing a sort of burn or skinned area if the padding is to thin in an area (over the ankle bone for example). One time Darbs did get a little saw mark. The poor cast tech was upset, he remarked that he hates when that happens and was worried about it because he watched them cast her the week prior and had noticed the padding was thin there. It was a small little skinned area only and she had no problems with it at all. Sawing instead of soaking also allows you to take the cast home and especially with the last cast, if you have it whole you can use it to compare to the DBB angle so you know if it's set right or not. She did cry during the removal process, the saw is loud and she didn't like that. But really, it didn't bother me much at all. She probably wouldn't have liked sitting in a bath of vinegar and cried during that too so either way it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience. But sawing takes all of 2 minutes and it's done. I have absolutely no problems with the sawing, babies will cry. That's what they do when they're in situations they don't understand. If the noise bothers his ears, just put your hands over them while the saw is on. Kori Mama of Kenton 6/98 Merek 3/00 Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ At 10:21 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think >this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but >not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never >had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one >cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! >I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies >work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day >surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was >brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I >heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears >started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I >guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking >about it. > >Pam and (8-12-01) > > > > When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also >used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two >occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was >pushed through too deep. > > > > If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at >home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the >dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too >much. > > s. > > > > Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Darbi always had her casts sawn off. We also see a Ponseti trained Dr. After hearing about how tedious it is to soak them off, I was glad for the saw. There was enough going on in my life at the time with two older children to have to spend two hours holding a baby over a tub of vinegar water. I also liked that there was usually less than an hour between her getting the cast off and another applied. The cast saw doesn't rotate, but rather vibrates and only *cuts* hard material. That doesn't mean it can't *rub* the skin causing a sort of burn or skinned area if the padding is to thin in an area (over the ankle bone for example). One time Darbs did get a little saw mark. The poor cast tech was upset, he remarked that he hates when that happens and was worried about it because he watched them cast her the week prior and had noticed the padding was thin there. It was a small little skinned area only and she had no problems with it at all. Sawing instead of soaking also allows you to take the cast home and especially with the last cast, if you have it whole you can use it to compare to the DBB angle so you know if it's set right or not. She did cry during the removal process, the saw is loud and she didn't like that. But really, it didn't bother me much at all. She probably wouldn't have liked sitting in a bath of vinegar and cried during that too so either way it wouldn't have been a pleasant experience. But sawing takes all of 2 minutes and it's done. I have absolutely no problems with the sawing, babies will cry. That's what they do when they're in situations they don't understand. If the noise bothers his ears, just put your hands over them while the saw is on. Kori Mama of Kenton 6/98 Merek 3/00 Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ At 10:21 AM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think >this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but >not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never >had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one >cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! >I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies >work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day >surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was >brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I >heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears >started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I >guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking >about it. > >Pam and (8-12-01) > > > > When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also >used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two >occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was >pushed through too deep. > > > > If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at >home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the >dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too >much. > > s. > > > > Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I think it really is a doctor preference. We've done both. I actually prefer the saw too even though the soaking was definitely easier on Livie. She didn't mind the soaking, but the noise of the cast saw makes her cry. Much easier on us because it's so quick. Soaking was not difficult, just time consuming before you're trying to rush out the door to go to the doctor. And no matter how much we wrapped that sucker in plastic bags, she always leaked a little and ended up with a wet seat. She actually has a scar on the back of the bottom part of her leg from a cast saw. It " burned " enough to bleed. Our cast tech felt really bad too, but what can you do? These things happen! We took Livie's 2nd tenotomy cast off at home and it was very easy. We soaked it for about 30 minutes and then just cut it right off. I also kept her last cast because it was in such good shape. Even with the huge blood stain in the heel! Now that's gross!! This last cast that Livie had by Dr. Ponseti was taken off with the cast saw. I'm assuming because it was so big (she was 2.5 years old) and because it was wrapped in fiberglass for extra strength since she walks. , you might want to clear it with the doctor before you do any soaking. They might get a tad annoyed if you bring a baby with a sopping wet cast when they're expecting to cut it off with a saw! LOL! Jen & Livie (10-18-01) Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I think it really is a doctor preference. We've done both. I actually prefer the saw too even though the soaking was definitely easier on Livie. She didn't mind the soaking, but the noise of the cast saw makes her cry. Much easier on us because it's so quick. Soaking was not difficult, just time consuming before you're trying to rush out the door to go to the doctor. And no matter how much we wrapped that sucker in plastic bags, she always leaked a little and ended up with a wet seat. She actually has a scar on the back of the bottom part of her leg from a cast saw. It " burned " enough to bleed. Our cast tech felt really bad too, but what can you do? These things happen! We took Livie's 2nd tenotomy cast off at home and it was very easy. We soaked it for about 30 minutes and then just cut it right off. I also kept her last cast because it was in such good shape. Even with the huge blood stain in the heel! Now that's gross!! This last cast that Livie had by Dr. Ponseti was taken off with the cast saw. I'm assuming because it was so big (she was 2.5 years old) and because it was wrapped in fiberglass for extra strength since she walks. , you might want to clear it with the doctor before you do any soaking. They might get a tad annoyed if you bring a baby with a sopping wet cast when they're expecting to cut it off with a saw! LOL! Jen & Livie (10-18-01) Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Kori, I just reread your message and noticed that you said sawing as opposed to soaking allows you to take the cast home with you. I find that interesting since our experience was completely opposite. Every cast that Livie ever had sawed was completely destroyed in trying to lever it off her leg. All the ones that were soaked came off pretty much in one piece. Interesting! Jen & Livie (10-81-01 severe left clubfoot) Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hummm... well I suppose I just assumed that if you soaked it, it's be a big pile of mushy plaster. What do I know anyway? hehe... Does the foot portion stay where it was set at after soaking? The sawing didn't destroy Darbi's casts at all. They were split in half and broken on the side that didn't get cut but we just pushed them back together and took them home. I only have 3. I have the two healing casts, and the last cast from the correction I dug out of the garbage in the cast room because I questioned the 50 degree angle the doc prescribed and they wanted to check the cast. I wish I would have saved them all :~{ It seemed weird at the time to save them, but looking back... I should have never felt that way. Kori At 12:44 PM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Kori, > >I just reread your message and noticed that you said sawing as opposed to >soaking allows you to take the cast home with you. I find that >interesting since our experience was completely opposite. Every cast that >Livie ever had sawed was completely destroyed in trying to lever it off >her leg. All the ones that were soaked came off pretty much in one piece. > >Interesting! > >Jen & Livie (10-81-01 severe left clubfoot) > Re: today > > > > > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it > >only > > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > > r. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hummm... well I suppose I just assumed that if you soaked it, it's be a big pile of mushy plaster. What do I know anyway? hehe... Does the foot portion stay where it was set at after soaking? The sawing didn't destroy Darbi's casts at all. They were split in half and broken on the side that didn't get cut but we just pushed them back together and took them home. I only have 3. I have the two healing casts, and the last cast from the correction I dug out of the garbage in the cast room because I questioned the 50 degree angle the doc prescribed and they wanted to check the cast. I wish I would have saved them all :~{ It seemed weird at the time to save them, but looking back... I should have never felt that way. Kori At 12:44 PM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Kori, > >I just reread your message and noticed that you said sawing as opposed to >soaking allows you to take the cast home with you. I find that >interesting since our experience was completely opposite. Every cast that >Livie ever had sawed was completely destroyed in trying to lever it off >her leg. All the ones that were soaked came off pretty much in one piece. > >Interesting! > >Jen & Livie (10-81-01 severe left clubfoot) > Re: today > > > > > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it > >only > > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > > r. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Hummm... well I suppose I just assumed that if you soaked it, it's be a big pile of mushy plaster. What do I know anyway? hehe... Does the foot portion stay where it was set at after soaking? The sawing didn't destroy Darbi's casts at all. They were split in half and broken on the side that didn't get cut but we just pushed them back together and took them home. I only have 3. I have the two healing casts, and the last cast from the correction I dug out of the garbage in the cast room because I questioned the 50 degree angle the doc prescribed and they wanted to check the cast. I wish I would have saved them all :~{ It seemed weird at the time to save them, but looking back... I should have never felt that way. Kori At 12:44 PM 8/28/2004, you wrote: >Kori, > >I just reread your message and noticed that you said sawing as opposed to >soaking allows you to take the cast home with you. I find that >interesting since our experience was completely opposite. Every cast that >Livie ever had sawed was completely destroyed in trying to lever it off >her leg. All the ones that were soaked came off pretty much in one piece. > >Interesting! > >Jen & Livie (10-81-01 severe left clubfoot) > Re: today > > > > > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it > >only > > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > > r. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Mushy is not really the term that I would use to describe what happens when you soak. It gets soft, but the cast does maintain it's integrity. No correction is lost because it doesn't change shape and still is somewhat hard. I'm not describing this well, but the cast gets soft so that a knife or pair of scissors can slide right through, but not soft enough that you could even turn the foot if you tried. I just found it interesting that your sawed casts held up so well. You must have had a talented tech! LOL Livie's were always sawed down both sides. Then they had this little wedge like tool that they pushed into the cut and wedged the cast apart. Theoretically (or realistically in your case, hehe) the cast is supposed to pop into two pieces and remain whole. Ours never did. By the time they got done wedging and prying, it was a total mess. The only cast that I kept was her last tenotomy cast. I also thought it felt a little weird keeping the casts, but don't think so now. I proudly show off Dr. Ponseti's handiwork to anyone that will look, blood stain and all! Jen & Livie Re: today > > > > > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it > >only > > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > > r. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Mushy is not really the term that I would use to describe what happens when you soak. It gets soft, but the cast does maintain it's integrity. No correction is lost because it doesn't change shape and still is somewhat hard. I'm not describing this well, but the cast gets soft so that a knife or pair of scissors can slide right through, but not soft enough that you could even turn the foot if you tried. I just found it interesting that your sawed casts held up so well. You must have had a talented tech! LOL Livie's were always sawed down both sides. Then they had this little wedge like tool that they pushed into the cut and wedged the cast apart. Theoretically (or realistically in your case, hehe) the cast is supposed to pop into two pieces and remain whole. Ours never did. By the time they got done wedging and prying, it was a total mess. The only cast that I kept was her last tenotomy cast. I also thought it felt a little weird keeping the casts, but don't think so now. I proudly show off Dr. Ponseti's handiwork to anyone that will look, blood stain and all! Jen & Livie Re: today > > > > > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it > >only > > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > > r. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I'm sorry if I made it sound like soaking was part of the Ponseti Method or something, I know doctors do things differently. s. Re: today Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking about it. Pam and (8-12-01) > > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if > anyone > > else was going this week too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I'm sorry if I made it sound like soaking was part of the Ponseti Method or something, I know doctors do things differently. s. Re: today Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking about it. Pam and (8-12-01) > > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if > anyone > > else was going this week too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I'm sorry if I made it sound like soaking was part of the Ponseti Method or something, I know doctors do things differently. s. Re: today Dr. Dobbs also uses the saw, but he is Ponseti approved. I think this is just a preference among Drs. would fuss a little, but not too much. He started with the cast saw at 3 weeks old. We never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact, I had to soak one cast off at home because it became too tight and that was awful! I'll tell you one thing though, it's funny how our emotions/bodies work. I was at work one day. I'm a nurse. I work on same day surgery so we never use cast saws. But for some reason one was brought to the unit to be used. I was not aware of it, but when I heard that sound without even stopping to think what it was tears started coming to my eyes and I suddenly felt very emotional. I guess it took me back to a very emotional time without even thinking about it. Pam and (8-12-01) > > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if > anyone > > else was going this week too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well, considering was burned twice and your child actually bled.....plus the fear-factor the baby endures......I dunno. s. Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well, considering was burned twice and your child actually bled.....plus the fear-factor the baby endures......I dunno. s. Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well, considering was burned twice and your child actually bled.....plus the fear-factor the baby endures......I dunno. s. Re: today > > > > > > > > They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it >only > > vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. > > r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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