Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Jody, I had a hard time last night as I watched again the footage of the planes crashing into the towers and then the towers coming down. It made it feel like it was yesterday and brought back all those feelings of fear and disbelief and sorrow. I participated in the national moment of silence this morning and watched some of the memorial services. But after that, I just couldn't watch any more. It is too heartbreaking. God bless, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Jody, I had a hard time last night as I watched again the footage of the planes crashing into the towers and then the towers coming down. It made it feel like it was yesterday and brought back all those feelings of fear and disbelief and sorrow. I participated in the national moment of silence this morning and watched some of the memorial services. But after that, I just couldn't watch any more. It is too heartbreaking. God bless, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Perhaps this might comfort some of you. We remember with sorrow those whom death has taken from our midst during the past year.... Taking these dear ones into our hearts with all our beloved. In the rising of the sun and in it’s going down, we remember them. In the blowing of the wind and in the chill of winter, we remember them. In the opening buds and the rebirth of spring, we remember them. In the blueness of the sky and in the warmth of summer, we remember them. In the rustling of leaves and in the beauty of autumn, we remember them. In the beginning of the year and when it ends, we remember them. When we are weary and in need of strength, we remember them. When we are lost and sick at heart, we remember them. When we have joys we yearn to share, we remember them. So long as we live, they too shall live, for they are now a part of us, as we remember them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Perhaps this might comfort some of you. We remember with sorrow those whom death has taken from our midst during the past year.... Taking these dear ones into our hearts with all our beloved. In the rising of the sun and in it’s going down, we remember them. In the blowing of the wind and in the chill of winter, we remember them. In the opening buds and the rebirth of spring, we remember them. In the blueness of the sky and in the warmth of summer, we remember them. In the rustling of leaves and in the beauty of autumn, we remember them. In the beginning of the year and when it ends, we remember them. When we are weary and in need of strength, we remember them. When we are lost and sick at heart, we remember them. When we have joys we yearn to share, we remember them. So long as we live, they too shall live, for they are now a part of us, as we remember them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Do not fear Terry there was no'peace love and understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. On any of the programs I saw last night or today. Nor is there likely to be. The victims were honored with dignity and reverence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Do not fear Terry there was no'peace love and understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. On any of the programs I saw last night or today. Nor is there likely to be. The victims were honored with dignity and reverence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 > Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of > 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( > Jody > Amazingly enough I am doing better today then I was doing yesterday. Yesterday I would find myself suddenly tearing up every few minutes or so. Today I've only done that when I came across a comic in the funny pages (Dennis the Menace set me right off), a mention on one of the lists I am on or even a glimpse of a pic in the paper. I am doing my level best to avoid as much of the media hype as possible. I am such a news junkie I am usually switching between all the morning shows on the networks in the morning. This morning we didn't go anywhere near them and watched TechTV and Disney cartoon channel. Then I flew our flag at home to half mast, found a very nice memorium graphic that I currently have on my desktop at work and tonight I will light a candle on the alter and we will sit and have sausage rolls and watch some funny movies, cuddled up together on the couch. Jean C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 > Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of > 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( > Jody > Amazingly enough I am doing better today then I was doing yesterday. Yesterday I would find myself suddenly tearing up every few minutes or so. Today I've only done that when I came across a comic in the funny pages (Dennis the Menace set me right off), a mention on one of the lists I am on or even a glimpse of a pic in the paper. I am doing my level best to avoid as much of the media hype as possible. I am such a news junkie I am usually switching between all the morning shows on the networks in the morning. This morning we didn't go anywhere near them and watched TechTV and Disney cartoon channel. Then I flew our flag at home to half mast, found a very nice memorium graphic that I currently have on my desktop at work and tonight I will light a candle on the alter and we will sit and have sausage rolls and watch some funny movies, cuddled up together on the couch. Jean C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 {{{{{Hugs}}}}}} to you Jody - I'm sure it's harder being in NY than it is here, though it's all anyone is talking about here too. I've just turned the radio and TV off this week because it's just too much - for me - to see the pictures again. This weekend we were driving around and there was this sign announcing a day or remembrance and I started crying just at that. I think I had post traumatic stress disorder or something from last year and it makes me just too anxious thinking about this time last year. Of course I've been getting email about 9-11 for the past few days, but I keep deleting them (except for these ones from real people I know). In the car the radio was on and I was just switching channels every time a song was over... but I did catch that the state fair was free today because of 9-11 and they were having a nice memorial there... and people seem extra nice today at the bank and grocery store... it seemed really quiet out and about. There is certainly a different energy to the day today, even if you aren't watching TV. Did you know anyone in the towers or on the planes? Our good friends ( s best man in our wedding and his family) live 3-4 blocks from the towers and they all escaped it - as did the rest of our friends in the city. We didn't know anyone personally, but it was still too horrendous for words. xoxo Pam -- Today Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 {{{{{Hugs}}}}}} to you Jody - I'm sure it's harder being in NY than it is here, though it's all anyone is talking about here too. I've just turned the radio and TV off this week because it's just too much - for me - to see the pictures again. This weekend we were driving around and there was this sign announcing a day or remembrance and I started crying just at that. I think I had post traumatic stress disorder or something from last year and it makes me just too anxious thinking about this time last year. Of course I've been getting email about 9-11 for the past few days, but I keep deleting them (except for these ones from real people I know). In the car the radio was on and I was just switching channels every time a song was over... but I did catch that the state fair was free today because of 9-11 and they were having a nice memorial there... and people seem extra nice today at the bank and grocery store... it seemed really quiet out and about. There is certainly a different energy to the day today, even if you aren't watching TV. Did you know anyone in the towers or on the planes? Our good friends ( s best man in our wedding and his family) live 3-4 blocks from the towers and they all escaped it - as did the rest of our friends in the city. We didn't know anyone personally, but it was still too horrendous for words. xoxo Pam -- Today Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Jody, I have to teach a class tonight, and need to leave in a minute. But I have to say, I've avoided the TV, because I am NOT ready for 'peace love and understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. " resolution " has not come yet, and the balance seems to be tipping towards the paralytic do-nothing and it'll all go away crowd -- who forget, it's only until the next time. I am upset, but keeping on. Peggy Noonan had a wonderful editorial in the WSJournal this AM. Might help your state of mind. Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:09:03 -0400 > To: graves_support > Subject: Today > > Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of > 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( > Jody > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Jody, I have to teach a class tonight, and need to leave in a minute. But I have to say, I've avoided the TV, because I am NOT ready for 'peace love and understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. " resolution " has not come yet, and the balance seems to be tipping towards the paralytic do-nothing and it'll all go away crowd -- who forget, it's only until the next time. I am upset, but keeping on. Peggy Noonan had a wonderful editorial in the WSJournal this AM. Might help your state of mind. Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:09:03 -0400 > To: graves_support > Subject: Today > > Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of > 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( > Jody > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Jody, I have to teach a class tonight, and need to leave in a minute. But I have to say, I've avoided the TV, because I am NOT ready for 'peace love and understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. " resolution " has not come yet, and the balance seems to be tipping towards the paralytic do-nothing and it'll all go away crowd -- who forget, it's only until the next time. I am upset, but keeping on. Peggy Noonan had a wonderful editorial in the WSJournal this AM. Might help your state of mind. Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:09:03 -0400 > To: graves_support > Subject: Today > > Is anyone else having trouble dealing with this first anniversary of > 9/11...it is such a HARD day. :-( > Jody > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 No, I don't think it's possible to " put it behind " . I think our reality has forever changed with the knowledge that an event like this can touch us at anytime. I drive across one of the bridges connecting Seattle to the Eastside, I see a sea plane above that looks really low like it could land on the highway, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I hear an airplane flying above, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I see a van parked on a street that looks out of place, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I go to the airport to pick up someone and I see all the police cars parked at the doors, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I take a trip cross country and have to give up my shoes for an x-ray, have to hand my baby to a total stranger while they pat me down and search my bags, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I see a flag hanging at my house or any house, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I don't think my life will ever be the same. Not watching TV or participating in a community memorial does not mean that I've put it behind or am trying to forget. I live with this reality - fear, anger, relief, and yes, the goal of peace and love - every single day. Pam B. PS. Luke got a new Wiggles DVD today - and at the end they dedicate it to this guy who lost his life 9-11-2001. You can't escape this even if you wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 No, I don't think it's possible to " put it behind " . I think our reality has forever changed with the knowledge that an event like this can touch us at anytime. I drive across one of the bridges connecting Seattle to the Eastside, I see a sea plane above that looks really low like it could land on the highway, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I hear an airplane flying above, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I see a van parked on a street that looks out of place, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I go to the airport to pick up someone and I see all the police cars parked at the doors, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I take a trip cross country and have to give up my shoes for an x-ray, have to hand my baby to a total stranger while they pat me down and search my bags, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I see a flag hanging at my house or any house, and I think of terrorism and what happened. I don't think my life will ever be the same. Not watching TV or participating in a community memorial does not mean that I've put it behind or am trying to forget. I live with this reality - fear, anger, relief, and yes, the goal of peace and love - every single day. Pam B. PS. Luke got a new Wiggles DVD today - and at the end they dedicate it to this guy who lost his life 9-11-2001. You can't escape this even if you wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 , Thanks for both your posts. A beautiful poem. While my husband had the tv on today the anchor asked a family member at ground 0 if he had put it behind him yet (he'd lost his wife)...I just got SO mad. the only other moment I saw, had me in tears--the pan shot to the memorial in PA, with 'let's roll' on it. Terry who is exhausted after a 4-hour cooking class with new students..good night > > Organization: home > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:07:09 +0000 > To: graves_support > Subject: Re: Today > > Do not fear Terry there was no'peace love and > understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. On any of the programs I > saw last night or today. Nor is there likely to be. The victims were > honored with dignity and reverence . > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 , Thanks for both your posts. A beautiful poem. While my husband had the tv on today the anchor asked a family member at ground 0 if he had put it behind him yet (he'd lost his wife)...I just got SO mad. the only other moment I saw, had me in tears--the pan shot to the memorial in PA, with 'let's roll' on it. Terry who is exhausted after a 4-hour cooking class with new students..good night > > Organization: home > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:07:09 +0000 > To: graves_support > Subject: Re: Today > > Do not fear Terry there was no'peace love and > understanding', or to 'put it all behind me'. On any of the programs I > saw last night or today. Nor is there likely to be. The victims were > honored with dignity and reverence . > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > DISCLAIMER > > Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of > the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Christian had his first cast removed and his second cast applied. He was screaming through the entire process. The sound from the machine they used to cut the cast off started him off and then he wouldn't stop for anything. Please tell me a lot of your children cried during this ordeal also.. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Marilouise Tozier Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:11 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Hi , Jasper cried then the casts were cut off. We had a mix of casts, the early ones were half plaster half fibreglass which we took off just before we went to the hospital, the others were full plaster. I would give him my knuckle to chew on and he settled pretty quickly after the ordeal was over. He fell asleep often during the last phase of new casts going on! Tamsin > Christian had his first cast removed and his second cast applied. He was > screaming through the entire process. The sound from the machine they used > to cut the cast off started him off and then he wouldn't stop for anything. > Please tell me a lot of your children cried during this ordeal also.. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Our son got worse with each cast. At first it didn't bother him but it was almost like he started to know what was coming and I am sure it was the sound of the machine that did it. He was always fine afterwards. The last cast change was the worst and in the end they cut them off instead of using the machine....... Rach, Steve & Connor 16 months b/l c/f -- Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Is he new born or an older baby? Hi , Jasper cried then the casts were cut off. We had a mix of casts, the early ones were half plaster half fibreglass which we took off just before we went to the hospital, the others were full plaster. I would give him my knuckle to chew on and he settled pretty quickly after the ordeal was over. He fell asleep often during the last phase of new casts going on! Tamsin > Christian had his first cast removed and his second cast applied. He was > screaming through the entire process. The sound from the machine they used > to cut the cast off started him off and then he wouldn't stop for anything. > Please tell me a lot of your children cried during this ordeal also.. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Why did they use the saw on an infant? s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 They used the saw on anyone and everyone it seems. Apparently it only vibrates and she put it on her hand to prove this. r. -- Re: today Why did they use the saw on an infant? s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I didn't know that. Thank you for the suggestion. Mommy to 12/17/98 and Christian 1/30/04 _____ From: Number23 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:55 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: today When we started treatment with the non-Ponseti doctor, they also used the saw to remove infant casts. It was terrible and on two occasion my son suffered a saw-burn on his skin where the blade was pushed through too deep. If these are plaster casts you probably know you could soak them at home prior to the visit so they would come off rather easily at the dr.'s office. Just a suggestion if the saw frightens your baby too much. s. Re: anybody have an appt. tomm. at Dr. Herzenberg? Hi , doesn't go back until 9/13 (a Monday) when her cast will be removed. Have a good appt!! Marilouise 9/9/03, LCF, 3 week cast after tenotomy (13 days left) Owen and 3/20/99 > We will be there again tomorrow. Just thought I would find out if anyone > else was going this week too. > > > > > > Mommy to 12/17/98 > > and Christian 1/30/04 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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