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Hi Lonnie, I have two children and did not do NCT classes with either.

However, I am hopnig to get pregnant with my third very soon and

would hope to do a refresher course. I did the NHS classes with DD1

and so have a few friends of her age but the only " friends " DD2 has

are those of her sister's who have younger babies. I

think it is a good idea to do classes again!

Francesca - Mum to Kezia (14.5.98) and Lily (30.4.00)

hello

> Hi everyone

> I am a member of the UK homebirth group and this group is often

mentioned here and it sounds like a fun and supportive group ;o)

>

> I am Lonnie Danish but I have lived in England for 11 years. My dh

is English (very English ) and we have 2 beautiful girls Phoebe is

3 and was a hospital delivery Eloisa is nearly 16 months and was a

wonderful homedelivery.

>

> I took nct classes with both of the girls and I have made firm

friends from both classes.. I am currently pondering about the " sense "

of taking the classes again for a third baby as I am pretty sure that

I am up to date with breathing pain relief and siblings with regards

to having another, but on the other hand I have found it wonderful

support to know people who are expecting babies at the same time you

are. Just not sure if that is a good enough basis to go for the

classes a third time Did anyone do the classes more than twice and how

did you find it??

>

> Lonnie mama to Phoebe and Eloisa

> Even if I knew the world was coming to an end tomorrow

> I would still plant my apple tree

> ( L King)

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Terri,

i hope that your appts have gone well. what is the reason for the self cath.? why do you need to do this? I am sorry you are having to go through this and hope things start to look up soon, and that you at least get a dx. Keep us updated,

Take care,

Kim

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Good Luck with your test, KEEP ENERGIZED patti, ipf 7'06,nj

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and garner

> some awareness for PF also!

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> 2) My husband and I leave for Dallas, one week from today, to have

my first

> transplant evaluation visit...this is exciting and scarey at the

same time!

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Genie... I do understand it's hard to let someone go that you care about. Many of us here have blood family that "don't get it" and we are not as close as we want to be.

Perhaps he is having denial re: your PF...who knows. Maybe he wants to end the relationship because of your illness that he doesn't understand and doesn't want to tell you because you ARE ill. Again, who knows.

I'm so sorry this comes at this time for you.

I'm more convinced than ever that if this dude can't drive 20 miles for his GF than he just doesn't have what he needs to be in a serious relationship.

How long have you two been together?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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A year is a long time...you have some history together. You will know what you need to do Genie. Just look inside yourself.

Life is what happens when we're making other plans.

It's good you are here. You will have support and help with/through your disease process here.

Do you have family that are supportive?

Hopefully close to you?

And what about friends?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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No one in my family understands. They think it will cure itself in a little while if I just take better care of myself. I try to tell them it is incurable but they do not listen.GenieTo: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:57:42 PMSubject: Re: Hello

A year is a long time...you have some history together. You will know what you need to do Genie. Just look inside yourself.

Life is what happens when we're making other plans.

It's good you are here. You will have support and help with/through your disease process here.

Do you have family that are supportive?

Hopefully close to you?

And what about friends?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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Genie...yes, do that. Contact Leanne....she may be reading your msgs. here already.

One step, one day, at a time.

Stay close to the board.

If you ever want to talk off board, my email is bofus@...

Keep on keepin' on.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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Genie... I hope your mom doesn't smoke when she is with you. Smokers can be touchy but if she does, please ask her not to smoke when you are together.

Of course it's harder when you go to HER house.

Are you a smoker?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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Genie,

I can relate to what you are going through with your family. Shortly

after I started on Prednisone and Cellcept my husband and I had

talked with our families and explained the reason for these meds and

stressed that my immune system was even more compromised than before.

It wasn't too long before my in-laws came to visit for a weekend. One

had a sinus infection and the other had an ear infection and had been

around someone with strep throat. With in a week I had all of it. I

stayed sick for weeks. We were flabergasted when they got upset when

we pointed out that I was sick because they came to visit knowing how

dangerous being that sickly could be to me.

My husband later wrote a letter explaining my disease and the meds I

was on and politely asked our friends and family to take it into

consideration when visiting.

For some of my friends who were more understanding I simply sent an

email asking them to read a little about PF and included links to

sites to help them understand what they would be seeing of the next

several years. Maybe something like that would be a good idea for you

and your family.

It can be hard but try to be patient with your family and friends.

You have been diagnosed with a scary disease. The people you love are

dealing with new emotions too and not sure themselves how to react.

Their initial reactions can seem inappropriate and hurtfull. Try to

understand they are hurting too. Watching someone you love dearly

can't be easy either. One of the best things you can do for yourself

and your family is let them know what you need from them. This will

give them something to focus on and a little less confused.

And if they still act like buttheads you always have us!

Best breathing to you gal!

33 FL

IPF dx 1/06

>

> Genie...yes, do that. Contact Leanne....she may be reading your

msgs. here already.

> One step, one day, at a time.

> Stay close to the board.

> If you ever want to talk off board, my email is bofus@...

> Keep on keepin' on.

> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> Nasturtiums

> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> Hello

>

>

> I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem

to understand

> my pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me

to come and

> see him instead of him driving to see me. The other day,

I met him and

> then could barely get back home because I was so sick. He

says that I

> don't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was

wondering has

> anyone went through this. I beginning to think he does

not care. I

> just need to know if anyone else has been through this.

> Genie

>

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Your message is full of really excellent advice. This is the kind of thing that makes this group so amazing and valuable. Thank you so much for sharing that and yes in the end when we all have 'buttheads' to deal with in the world out there we still have each other!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:23:28 PMSubject: Re: Hello

Genie, I can relate to what you are going through with your family. Shortly after I started on Prednisone and Cellcept my husband and I had talked with our families and explained the reason for these meds and stressed that my immune system was even more compromised than before. It wasn't too long before my in-laws came to visit for a weekend. One had a sinus infection and the other had an ear infection and had been around someone with strep throat. With in a week I had all of it. I stayed sick for weeks. We were flabergasted when they got upset when we pointed out that I was sick because they came to visit knowing how dangerous being that sickly could be to me. My husband later wrote a letter explaining my disease and the meds I was on and politely asked our friends and family to take it into consideration when visiting. For some of my friends who were more understanding I simply sent an

email asking them to read a little about PF and included links to sites to help them understand what they would be seeing of the next several years. Maybe something like that would be a good idea for you and your family. It can be hard but try to be patient with your family and friends. You have been diagnosed with a scary disease. The people you love are dealing with new emotions too and not sure themselves how to react. Their initial reactions can seem inappropriate and hurtfull. Try to understand they are hurting too. Watching someone you love dearly can't be easy either. One of the best things you can do for yourself and your family is let them know what you need from them. This will give them something to focus on and a little less confused. And if they still act like buttheads you always have us!Best breathing to you gal! 33 FLIPF dx 1/06>> Genie...yes, do that. Contact Leanne....she may be reading your msgs. here already.> One step, one day, at a time.> Stay close to the board.> If you ever want to talk off board, my email is bofus@...> Keep on keepin' on.> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!> > Hello> > > I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understand> my pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come and> see him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him and> then could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that I> don't

care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering has> anyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. I> just need to know if anyone else has been through this.> Genie>

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No I am not a smoker but my mom is a smoker that smokes a couple packs a day.GenieTo: Breathe-Support Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:55:07 AMSubject: Re: Hello

Genie... I hope your mom doesn't smoke when she is with you. Smokers can be touchy but if she does, please ask her not to smoke when you are together.

Of course it's harder when you go to HER house.

Are you a smoker?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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I do wonder if there is a relationship between second hand smoke and this disease

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: HelloTo: Breathe-Support Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:23 PM

No I am not a smoker but my mom is a smoker that smokes a couple packs a day.Genie

From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:55:07 AMSubject: Re: Hello

Genie... I hope your mom doesn't smoke when she is with you. Smokers can be touchy but if she does, please ask her not to smoke when you are together.

Of course it's harder when you go to HER house.

Are you a smoker?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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That's something I've wondered for a long time too Joyce.

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:44:06 AMSubject: Re: Hello

I do wonder if there is a relationship between second hand smoke and this disease

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09

www.transplantfund. org

From: Jack Marshall <mrshlljck (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: HelloTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, February 23, 2009, 1:47 PM

Genie, if your family will agree, get them to go with you to talk to your doctors. They need to understand. And they need to understand that you need their support. I have more than I can handle, not only from my family but also friends, employees and neighbors. Sometimes I think they are rehearsing my funeral. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

From: Regina Pennington <rpennington71@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:06:53 PMSubject: Re: Hello

No one in my family understands. They think it will cure itself in a little while if I just take better care of myself. I try to tell them it is incurable but they do not listen.Genie

From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:57:42 PMSubject: Re: Hello

A year is a long time...you have some history together. You will know what you need to do Genie. Just look inside yourself.

Life is what happens when we're making other plans.

It's good you are here. You will have support and help with/through your disease process here.

Do you have family that are supportive?

Hopefully close to you?

And what about friends?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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your response is so on target and well said, thanks

Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: HelloTo: Breathe-Support Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:23 PM

Genie, I can relate to what you are going through with your family. Shortly after I started on Prednisone and Cellcept my husband and I had talked with our families and explained the reason for these meds and stressed that my immune system was even more compromised than before. It wasn't too long before my in-laws came to visit for a weekend. One had a sinus infection and the other had an ear infection and had been around someone with strep throat. With in a week I had all of it. I stayed sick for weeks. We were flabergasted when they got upset when we pointed out that I was sick because they came to visit knowing how dangerous being that sickly could be to me. My husband later wrote a letter explaining my disease and the meds I was on and politely asked our friends and family to take it into consideration when visiting. For some of my friends who were more understanding I simply sent

an email asking them to read a little about PF and included links to sites to help them understand what they would be seeing of the next several years. Maybe something like that would be a good idea for you and your family. It can be hard but try to be patient with your family and friends. You have been diagnosed with a scary disease. The people you love are dealing with new emotions too and not sure themselves how to react. Their initial reactions can seem inappropriate and hurtfull. Try to understand they are hurting too. Watching someone you love dearly can't be easy either. One of the best things you can do for yourself and your family is let them know what you need from them. This will give them something to focus on and a little less confused. And if they still act like buttheads you always have us!Best breathing to you gal! 33 FLIPF dx 1/06>> Genie...yes, do that. Contact Leanne....she may be reading your msgs. here already.> One step, one day, at a time.> Stay close to the board.> If you ever want to talk off board, my email is bofus@...> Keep on keepin' on.> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. > Nasturtiums> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!> > Hello> > > I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understand> my pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come and> see him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him and> then could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that I> don't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering has> anyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. I> just need

to know if anyone else has been through this.> Genie>

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Joyce

It is believed to be one of the causes. Also, it will greatly exacerbate

the breathing problems from the disease. Coldly put her mothers smoking

may or may not have helped lead to the disease but continuing to smoke

around her will make her life less comfortable and can speed her death.

Of all the many possible causes of mine, the one thing I was exposed to

longest was high levels of second hand smoke. In retrospect the doctor

told me at 19 that I had the lungs of a 40 year old two pack a day

smoker. We attributed it however at that time to my allergies, not

knowing the effect of second hand smoke.

>

> From: Jack Marshall mrshlljck (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Hello

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 1:47 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Genie, if your family will agree, get them to go with you to talk to

your doctors. They need to understand. And they need to understand

that you need their support. I have more than I can handle, not only

from my family but also friends, employees and neighbors. Sometimes I

think they are rehearsing my funeral.

> Jack

> 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Regina Pennington

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:06:53 PM

> Subject: Re: Hello

>

>

>

>

>

> No one in my family understands. They think it will cure itself in a

little while if I just take better care of myself. I try to tell them it

is incurable but they do not listen.

> Genie

>

>

>

>

>

> From: Sher Bauman bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>

> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:57:42 PM

> Subject: Re: Hello

>

>

>

>

> A year is a long time...you have some history together. You will know

what you need to do Genie. Just look inside yourself.

> Life is what happens when we're making other plans.

> It's good you are here. You will have support and help with/through

your disease process here.

> Do you have family that are supportive?

> Hopefully close to you?

> And what about friends?

> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> Nasturtiums

> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

>

> Hello

>

>

>

> I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understand

> my pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come and

> see him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him and

> then could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that I

> don't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering has

> anyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. I

> just need to know if anyone else has been through this.

> Genie

>

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... your msg to Genie is such good advice and so nicely written.

Reminds me of my daughter, Zoe. In the 3 years since dx we have yet to "talk about" my disease or mortality. I was hurt at first but now I know she can't bear to talk about it. She pretends it doesn't exist.

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello> > > I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understand> my pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come and> see him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him and> then could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that I> don't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering has> anyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. I> just need to know if anyone else has been through this.> Genie>

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Genie...it's good news you do not smoke...there have been (are?) members who really struggle with giving up cigarettes.

Have a good day!

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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Oh Ken, let it out. I can feel how this hurts you. I am so sorry.

Genie, I can imagine how much you want your parents to understand and be there for you and how much it is hurting you.

I am sending my prayers for both of you.

Margaret

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:12:54 PMSubject: Re: Hello

From: Overman <kenover44 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups.. comSent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:58:30 PMSubject: Re: Hello

i have 4 sisters and 1 brother, one sister (the oldest) and her husband knows of the serious of this disease (time out)!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! I'm crying

From: Regina Pennington <rpennington71@ yahoo.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:06:53 PMSubject: Re: Hello

No one in my family understands. They think it will cure itself in a little while if I just take better care of myself. I try to tell them it is incurable but they do not listen.Genie

From: Sher Bauman <bofus (AT) wbcable (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:57:42 PMSubject: Re: Hello

A year is a long time...you have some history together. You will know what you need to do Genie. Just look inside yourself.

Life is what happens when we're making other plans.

It's good you are here. You will have support and help with/through your disease process here.

Do you have family that are supportive?

Hopefully close to you?

And what about friends?

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Hello

I just don't know what to do. My boyfriend does not seem to understandmy pulmonary fibrosis. I stay real sick and he wants me to come andsee him instead of him driving to see me. The other day, I met him andthen could barely get back home because I was so sick. He says that Idon't care or love him if I don't go and meet him. I was wondering hasanyone went through this. I beginning to think he does not care. Ijust need to know if anyone else has been through this.Genie

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