Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Welcome to the group Lynette. What you are feeling is normal. We all go through it. I was 44 when diagnosed with infiltrating ductal carcinoma. That was 16 1/2 yrs ago. I had a mastectomy with no reconsturction and never regretted it. I didn't want to take the chance of the cancer coming back in that breast and then having to have more surgery. They took 23 lymph nodes and I had one bad one. I had 6 months of chemo but no radiation. You mentioned being single. If a man REALLY loves you he isn't going to care if you have your breast/breasts or not. If it does matter to him then hes not worth you time. You could also consider reconstruction. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed Hi All, I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so confused. Thank you all for listening, Lynnette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Lynnette, Hi. I'm sorry you are having to travel this way, but you can make it. Be calm, get information, listen to your heart and common sense. Read PubMed and other information and educate yourself. Whether you have a mastectomy or lumpectomy is a very personal decision. You are not crazy for wanting to keep your breast. I wanted to keep mine also. Some women do not feel that way and they are not crazy either. I had IDC Stage 1 and had a lumpectomy Nov. 22, 2006. So, I am just barely 14 days out. You can make this. Like my son asked me when I called him and was crying to tell him the news, " Mom, talk to me, what scares you the most? " I am asking it rhetorically, I don't intend for you to answer here in a public forum, but tell yourself what scares you the most and say to yourself, " And what would I do then? " Fear is not so powerful when we face it head on. Bless ya. You can make it. Elle Lynnette wrote: Hi All, I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so confused. Thank you all for listening, Lynnette --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi Lynette, It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and your surgeon is offering it as an option. Some things to consider: Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the same odds of a chance of recurrence. If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid needing radiation. Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 That's what I'm concerned about. How many women have had successful lumpectomies? How many have had lumpectomies and had to go back and have a mastectomy? Am I just leaving myself open for another bout with cancer later on down the road and is it worth the risk. > > I know a lot of ladies would disagree that lumpectomy vs mastectomy have the same odd or recurrance. I have known several that after having a lumpectomy the cancer returned and they ended up going in for a mastectomy and wished they had gone with the mastectomy originally. But its a personal choice. > Hugs > nne > Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life > http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html > BreastCancerStories.com > http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ > Angel Feather Loomer > www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com > Check out my other ornaments at > www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html > Lots of info and gifts at: > www.cancerclub.com > Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Well, all you can do is research. A good place to research medical citations and studies is Pub Med (National Library of Medicine). Here is the link: www.pubmed.gov You can enter anything you want in the search box. For instance, enter mastectomy, lumpectomy, radiation, chemo, recurrence, breast cancer. Find and read all that appeal to you or seem to answer your question. Remember to take into account YOUR health. I personally have health issues that make the standard surgery/chemo/radiation a less than optimum choice for me. I have a higher danger risk of other cancers with some of those treatments because of other medical conditions I have.It is very, very individual and personal. Do some research on genetic testing anything else that might be a concern to you. Feel free to discuss it with us or anyone you trust, but bottom line is that anyone who pressures you or tries to make the decision for you is really playing with your life. You must make the decision. You can do it. Gather all the facts you can. Check out the sources and make the best possible decision you can. That's all any of us can do. There is no one answer for everyone with breast cancer. And no one here or anywhere can use someone's else's experience with bc to validate or discredit another's decision because none of us are identical physically or emotionally. We'll be here for ya, no matter what you choose. Elle Lynnette wrote: That's what I'm concerned about. How many women have had successful lumpectomies? How many have had lumpectomies and had to go back and have a mastectomy? Am I just leaving myself open for another bout with cancer later on down the road and is it worth the risk. > > I know a lot of ladies would disagree that lumpectomy vs mastectomy have the same odd or recurrance. I have known several that after having a lumpectomy the cancer returned and they ended up going in for a mastectomy and wished they had gone with the mastectomy originally. But its a personal choice. > Hugs > nne > Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life > http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html > BreastCancerStories.com > http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ > Angel Feather Loomer > www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com > Check out my other ornaments at > www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html > Lots of info and gifts at: > www.cancerclub.com > Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 *Hi Lynette,* ** *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* ** *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did you ask him which he'd recommend? * ** *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to help you.* ** *Best wishes,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Hi All, > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > confused. > > Thank you all for listening, > Lynnette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 My oncologist said that basically the difference is in whether the lymph nodes are involved. He said that with the lumpectomy these days he definitely recommends radiation. With a mastectomy is told me that there would not be radiation. If no lymph nodes are involved with cancer, I may not have to have chemo. Personally, I want the cancer gone. He also told me that 80% of Americans choose mastectomies because they want the cancer gone. 80% of Canadians choose lumpectomies because they can always go back for a mastectomy. There is only a 6% higher risk with a lumpectomy, according Dr. Dakhil, my oncologist, that cancer will return. If there is not lymph node involvement, he told me it just depended on whether I could live with or without a breast. His information helped me make a choice for a mastectomy. Lumpectomies are easier for the surgeon, generally. Dr. Dakhil told me, too, that what is easiest for the surgeon is not always easiest for the patient. It is a personal choice. I will keep you in my prayers as you make your chance. I, too, have invasive duct carcinoma. I immediately started " taking charge " of my own health care and asking questions, looking information on all cancer websites that I could find. The American Cancer Society has a great website. Dr. Dakhil recommended Caring4Cancer.com and the Komen website is helpful. Breastcancer.com is great, too. Watching and listening to the videos on different websites is helpful. Information gets you a sense of power and control as well as sharing on this website. You are not alone. We are all in this together, thank the Lord. This is not easy and no one can know what you need but you. Trust your instincts and your gut feelings. They are usually right. My nephew told me last night to trust my gut feelings. Women's intuition isn't a faulty thing. Blessings to you, Jan K Ann Weiss wrote: *Hi Lynette,* ** *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* ** *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did you ask him which he'd recommend? * ** *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to help you.* ** *Best wishes,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Hi All, > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > confused. > > Thank you all for listening, > Lynnette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Ann, that is a good point, that a breast is just a body part that doesn't define us. I am thinking out loud here, so I hope that it makes sense. I think what makes it harder for breast cancer patients is that media often accentuates the breasts as a major portion of what makes us attractive as women. It is not so, but that is a cultural thing. To take away some of the intensity of the decision, I wonder if it would make the decision any easier if you wrote down your pros and cons and substituted a different body part for the breast? For instance, if on my list I wrote: If I keep my breast I have a ___% chance of cancer recurring in the breast. And then went back and crossed off breast and put " leg " or " ear " or " hand " or nose, finger, eye any body part particularly one you feel is just as important to you personally as your breast and then think if that would be worth it? Just a thought. Elle Ann Weiss wrote: *Hi Lynette,* ** *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* ** *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did you ask him which he'd recommend? * ** *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to help you.* ** *Best wishes,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Hi All, > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > confused. > > Thank you all for listening, > Lynnette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 What a great perspective on this issue, Elle Pea. Bravo! Jan K Elle Pea wrote: Ann, that is a good point, that a breast is just a body part that doesn't define us. I am thinking out loud here, so I hope that it makes sense. I think what makes it harder for breast cancer patients is that media often accentuates the breasts as a major portion of what makes us attractive as women. It is not so, but that is a cultural thing. To take away some of the intensity of the decision, I wonder if it would make the decision any easier if you wrote down your pros and cons and substituted a different body part for the breast? For instance, if on my list I wrote: If I keep my breast I have a ___% chance of cancer recurring in the breast. And then went back and crossed off breast and put " leg " or " ear " or " hand " or nose, finger, eye any body part particularly one you feel is just as important to you personally as your breast and then think if that would be worth it? Just a thought. Elle Ann Weiss wrote: *Hi Lynette,* ** *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* ** *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did you ask him which he'd recommend? * ** *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to help you.* ** *Best wishes,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Hi All, > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > confused. > > Thank you all for listening, > Lynnette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 *Elle,* ** *Yes, I think the point you make is an excellent one. * *I was diagnosed with stage IIIB cancer 7 years ago. I chose to have a bilateral (both breasts) mastectomy.* ** *My breasts are long gone, but I've kept what's most important to me: my faith, my love for my family, my values, my sense of humor, my compassion... None of these attributes can be seen in the mirror, yet they make up the real me. Given a choice between my breasts and my sense of humor, etc., there's no contest. I'll gladly keep all the parts of my personality intact. * ** *If you were to meet a man worthy of you, he would be far more concerned with your soul. Think of it this way....would you really want to marry a man who thought your breast was the most important thing about you? Ugh! We'd throw him back!!!!* ** *Take care,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Ann, that is a good point, that a breast is just a body part that > doesn't define us. I am thinking out loud here, so I hope that it makes > sense. I think what makes it harder for breast cancer patients is that media > often accentuates the breasts as a major portion of what makes us attractive > as women. It is not so, but that is a cultural thing. To take away some of > the intensity of the decision, I wonder if it would make the decision any > easier if you wrote down your pros and cons and substituted a different body > part for the breast? > > For instance, if on my list I wrote: > > If I keep my breast I have a ___% chance of cancer recurring in the > breast. > > And then went back and crossed off breast and put " leg " or " ear " or " hand " > or nose, finger, eye any body part particularly one you feel is just as > important to you personally as your breast and then think if that would be > worth it? Just a thought. > > Elle > > Ann Weiss <cjhats@... <cjhats%40gmail.com>> wrote: > *Hi Lynette,* > ** > *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you > get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* > ** > *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did > you ask him which he'd recommend? * > ** > *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a > breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * > *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to > help you.* > ** > *Best wishes,* > ** > * Ann* > *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > On 12/3/06, Lynnette <kikijo1965@... <kikijo1965%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > > confused. > > > > Thank you all for listening, > > Lynnette > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 hi lynette, i was diag in june this yr with stage 1 caricnoma, yes i was given the choice to 1-do nothing (some women i met have done this) 2-lumpectomy 3-mastectomy All of this happend so fast and wow yes was very overwhelming ,due to the fact the cancer had not spread to my lymph nodes , i had a lumpectiomy.Yes sometimes i do wonder if i have done the right thing, but anyhow i have done this as they got my tumour quick and had my rads also. I am also by myslef if i am meant to meet anyone that will accept me with my problems so be it, if not i will keep on going, i guess no one can make the decsion for you, i read as much as i could on the net. i am new also to this email list i wish had found it sooner as i went through all of this alone, so many nice pple here to support you along the way, good luck with your choice, hugs sandy in oz Ann Weiss wrote: *Elle,* ** *Yes, I think the point you make is an excellent one. * *I was diagnosed with stage IIIB cancer 7 years ago. I chose to have a bilateral (both breasts) mastectomy.* ** *My breasts are long gone, but I've kept what's most important to me: my faith, my love for my family, my values, my sense of humor, my compassion... None of these attributes can be seen in the mirror, yet they make up the real me. Given a choice between my breasts and my sense of humor, etc., there's no contest. I'll gladly keep all the parts of my personality intact. * ** *If you were to meet a man worthy of you, he would be far more concerned with your soul. Think of it this way....would you really want to marry a man who thought your breast was the most important thing about you? Ugh! We'd throw him back!!!!* ** *Take care,* ** * Ann* *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > Ann, that is a good point, that a breast is just a body part that > doesn't define us. I am thinking out loud here, so I hope that it makes > sense. I think what makes it harder for breast cancer patients is that media > often accentuates the breasts as a major portion of what makes us attractive > as women. It is not so, but that is a cultural thing. To take away some of > the intensity of the decision, I wonder if it would make the decision any > easier if you wrote down your pros and cons and substituted a different body > part for the breast? > > For instance, if on my list I wrote: > > If I keep my breast I have a ___% chance of cancer recurring in the > breast. > > And then went back and crossed off breast and put " leg " or " ear " or " hand " > or nose, finger, eye any body part particularly one you feel is just as > important to you personally as your breast and then think if that would be > worth it? Just a thought. > > Elle > > Ann Weiss > wrote: > *Hi Lynette,* > ** > *We're all scared and overwhelmed at diagnosis - it will get easier as you > get more information and can actively participate in your treatment.* > ** > *You said your doctor gave you a choice - lumpectomy vs. mastectomy. Did > you ask him which he'd recommend? * > ** > *None of us think you're " crazy " for wanting to keep your breast. But a > breast is simply a body part - it doesn't define us. * > *You will find the strength to get through this - and we are all here to > help you.* > ** > *Best wishes,* > ** > * Ann* > *Chemo Hats: www.cjhats.com* > > On 12/3/06, Lynnette > > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive > > Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I > > could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted > > to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm > > wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should > > have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm > > afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy > > for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so > > confused. > > > > Thank you all for listening, > > Lynnette > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't know the exact amount but the ladies on here could help you out with their personal experiences. Some ladies don't want to take the chance while others feel its a good choice for them. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi Ladies. I was giving the same options by both my surgeon and oncologist. I could have the lumpectomy or in Canada they say partial mastectomy depending on mass size and have Radiation if clear margins were found. Or mastectomy which does not require the Radiation treatments. Both proceedures have the same recurrance rate. I choose the partial. I didn't have clear margins and agreed to the second operation, which again wasn't clear albeit... 75 % was clear and again agreed to another operation to get a clear margin in the bottom portion of the breast. Which was sucessful, and my chemo starts tomorrow... I'm starting breast size is 34 D and I still have alot of swelling so I'm not sure what my breast is going to look like once the swelling in gone. At the moment there is a large sinking area. I didn't find my second or third operation any worse than the first. Possible because my breast was left open after an infection fromt he first operation. Bottom line, my oncologist says .. there is no right or wrong answer when giving a choice between lumpectomy or mastectomy. LK & nne Svihlik wrote: I don't know the exact amount but the ladies on here could help you out with their personal experiences. Some ladies don't want to take the chance while others feel its a good choice for them. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 That is one of the things that made me chose mastectomy. I knew I would always be worried about " what if " (I'm a worry wart, LOL). My choice of having a bilateral mastectomy was for my own peace of mind. Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dear Lynette, Whatever you decide is right for you. I am a nurse and had the same decision to make last year. I decided for the modified mastectomy that took the lump and athey made margins. My mother is also a nurse and cared for women when the mastectomy was the only way to go and that was when they mutilated women with breast cancer. If my cancer returns, I will have a mastectomy, but I feel that was the decision for me and i was 55 at the time. If you have the mastectomy, there is very good reconstruction avaiable for women after the surgery. A nurse friend of mine had of mine had a double mastectomy about three years ago. Today, you cannot tell she has ever had surgery. She is doing great and is cancer free. This was her second occurence and she like me decided if it returns, the mastectomy is the only way. Good luck and you are in our prayers, Cindy OKC Lynnette wrote: Hi All, I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so confused. Thank you all for listening, Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Dear Lynette, Whatever you decide is right for you. I am a nurse and had the same decision to make last year. I decided for the modified mastectomy that took the lump and athey made margins. My mother is also a nurse and cared for women when the mastectomy was the only way to go and that was when they mutilated women with breast cancer. If my cancer returns, I will have a mastectomy, but I feel that was the decision for me and i was 55 at the time. If you have the mastectomy, there is very good reconstruction avaiable for women after the surgery. A nurse friend of mine had of mine had a double mastectomy about three years ago. Today, you cannot tell she has ever had surgery. She is doing great and is cancer free. This was her second occurence and she like me decided if it returns, the mastectomy is the only way. Good luck and you are in our prayers, Cindy OKC Lynnette wrote: Hi All, I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so confused. Thank you all for listening, Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Just wanted to say hi Cindy from a fellow Okie. I am from Pryor in NE Oklahoma. Elle Yocum wrote: Dear Lynette, Whatever you decide is right for you. I am a nurse and had the same decision to make last year. I decided for the modified mastectomy that took the lump and athey made margins. My mother is also a nurse and cared for women when the mastectomy was the only way to go and that was when they mutilated women with breast cancer. If my cancer returns, I will have a mastectomy, but I feel that was the decision for me and i was 55 at the time. If you have the mastectomy, there is very good reconstruction avaiable for women after the surgery. A nurse friend of mine had of mine had a double mastectomy about three years ago. Today, you cannot tell she has ever had surgery. She is doing great and is cancer free. This was her second occurence and she like me decided if it returns, the mastectomy is the only way. Good luck and you are in our prayers, Cindy OKC Lynnette wrote: Hi All, I'm Lynnette and on November 30th I was told that I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. I feel overwhelmed and scared silly. I was told I could either have a lumpectomy or a mastectomy. I told them I wanted to keep as much of my original breast as possible but now I'm wondering if I made the right decision. My mother thinks I should have a mastectomy. I'm seperated and will be 41, December 6th and I'm afraid of how this is going to affect the rest of my life. Am I crazy for wanting to keep my breast? Should I have a mastectomy? I'm so confused. Thank you all for listening, Lynnette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Absolutely true Louise. Very well put by your oncologist. Elle Louise Krueger wrote: Hi Ladies. I was giving the same options by both my surgeon and oncologist. I could have the lumpectomy or in Canada they say partial mastectomy depending on mass size and have Radiation if clear margins were found. Or mastectomy which does not require the Radiation treatments. Both proceedures have the same recurrance rate. I choose the partial. I didn't have clear margins and agreed to the second operation, which again wasn't clear albeit... 75 % was clear and again agreed to another operation to get a clear margin in the bottom portion of the breast. Which was sucessful, and my chemo starts tomorrow... I'm starting breast size is 34 D and I still have alot of swelling so I'm not sure what my breast is going to look like once the swelling in gone. At the moment there is a large sinking area. I didn't find my second or third operation any worse than the first. Possible because my breast was left open after an infection fromt he first operation. Bottom line, my oncologist says .. there is no right or wrong answer when giving a choice between lumpectomy or mastectomy. LK & nne Svihlik wrote: I don't know the exact amount but the ladies on here could help you out with their personal experiences. Some ladies don't want to take the chance while others feel its a good choice for them. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Absolutely true Louise. Very well put by your oncologist. Elle Louise Krueger wrote: Hi Ladies. I was giving the same options by both my surgeon and oncologist. I could have the lumpectomy or in Canada they say partial mastectomy depending on mass size and have Radiation if clear margins were found. Or mastectomy which does not require the Radiation treatments. Both proceedures have the same recurrance rate. I choose the partial. I didn't have clear margins and agreed to the second operation, which again wasn't clear albeit... 75 % was clear and again agreed to another operation to get a clear margin in the bottom portion of the breast. Which was sucessful, and my chemo starts tomorrow... I'm starting breast size is 34 D and I still have alot of swelling so I'm not sure what my breast is going to look like once the swelling in gone. At the moment there is a large sinking area. I didn't find my second or third operation any worse than the first. Possible because my breast was left open after an infection fromt he first operation. Bottom line, my oncologist says .. there is no right or wrong answer when giving a choice between lumpectomy or mastectomy. LK & nne Svihlik wrote: I don't know the exact amount but the ladies on here could help you out with their personal experiences. Some ladies don't want to take the chance while others feel its a good choice for them. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Absolutely true Louise. Very well put by your oncologist. Elle Louise Krueger wrote: Hi Ladies. I was giving the same options by both my surgeon and oncologist. I could have the lumpectomy or in Canada they say partial mastectomy depending on mass size and have Radiation if clear margins were found. Or mastectomy which does not require the Radiation treatments. Both proceedures have the same recurrance rate. I choose the partial. I didn't have clear margins and agreed to the second operation, which again wasn't clear albeit... 75 % was clear and again agreed to another operation to get a clear margin in the bottom portion of the breast. Which was sucessful, and my chemo starts tomorrow... I'm starting breast size is 34 D and I still have alot of swelling so I'm not sure what my breast is going to look like once the swelling in gone. At the moment there is a large sinking area. I didn't find my second or third operation any worse than the first. Possible because my breast was left open after an infection fromt he first operation. Bottom line, my oncologist says .. there is no right or wrong answer when giving a choice between lumpectomy or mastectomy. LK & nne Svihlik wrote: I don't know the exact amount but the ladies on here could help you out with their personal experiences. Some ladies don't want to take the chance while others feel its a good choice for them. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 , My thoughts on it closely follow yours, except that I won't have radiation because of the increased risk to my heart and lungs which I already have problems with. YET, I was Stage 1, 6mm, no node involvement. If I were at a higher stage, larger tumor, etc, I might consider it. That is why I say it is very personal. No one has the same risk factors, size, stage and general health conditions that another has. We can tell you what we did, but we don't have all your information and we don't have your own personal instincts on it. Elle Pinheiro wrote: If you go by the studies, the numbers are the same for lumpectomy + radiation and mastectomy. The recurrences occur at the same rate. Even if you take all tissue out, the cancer can still come back. The problem with lumpectomy (or even quandrantectomy, which is performed more in Europe, So. America and I think Australia too) is the ability of the surgeon. If he/she is not good, then the result is not good. That's why a lot of doctors still prefer to do mastectomies. They are not very sure if they can get the material out or are not very sure of their abilities as a surgeon, so they go with more conservative measures. I had a quadrantectomy (more tissue is taken then lumpectomy) and reconstruction and I am very happy with it. I would have a mastectomy if, and only if, the cancer had taken over the whole breast. And I would have reconstruction anyway. But, since it was not the case, I would never choose a mastectomy. Of everything I have been through and still am going through, the surgery was a piece of cake. The results were excellent and I would do it again if it were the case. The way I think now, with the chemo and consequences of it (radiation wasn't a problem either), at least I have this positive thought: my surgery went great. Do I run the risk of having it again? I sure do, at my stage, we all do, mastectomies, lumpectomies or quadrantectomies. But I refuse to live thinking about this possibility. But, like nne and others said, it is a personal decision Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 , My thoughts on it closely follow yours, except that I won't have radiation because of the increased risk to my heart and lungs which I already have problems with. YET, I was Stage 1, 6mm, no node involvement. If I were at a higher stage, larger tumor, etc, I might consider it. That is why I say it is very personal. No one has the same risk factors, size, stage and general health conditions that another has. We can tell you what we did, but we don't have all your information and we don't have your own personal instincts on it. Elle Pinheiro wrote: If you go by the studies, the numbers are the same for lumpectomy + radiation and mastectomy. The recurrences occur at the same rate. Even if you take all tissue out, the cancer can still come back. The problem with lumpectomy (or even quandrantectomy, which is performed more in Europe, So. America and I think Australia too) is the ability of the surgeon. If he/she is not good, then the result is not good. That's why a lot of doctors still prefer to do mastectomies. They are not very sure if they can get the material out or are not very sure of their abilities as a surgeon, so they go with more conservative measures. I had a quadrantectomy (more tissue is taken then lumpectomy) and reconstruction and I am very happy with it. I would have a mastectomy if, and only if, the cancer had taken over the whole breast. And I would have reconstruction anyway. But, since it was not the case, I would never choose a mastectomy. Of everything I have been through and still am going through, the surgery was a piece of cake. The results were excellent and I would do it again if it were the case. The way I think now, with the chemo and consequences of it (radiation wasn't a problem either), at least I have this positive thought: my surgery went great. Do I run the risk of having it again? I sure do, at my stage, we all do, mastectomies, lumpectomies or quadrantectomies. But I refuse to live thinking about this possibility. But, like nne and others said, it is a personal decision Re: Feeling Terrified and Overwhelmed > > > Hi Lynette, > > It sounds like you would like to keep your breast (minus a lump) and > your surgeon is offering it as an option. > > Some things to consider: > > Studies have shown that both choices (lumpectomy or mastectomy) give the > same odds of a chance of recurrence. > > If you have a lumpectomy sometimes you need follow-on surgery > (re-excision) if the margins aren't clear. > > If you have a mastectomy and are early stage, most times you avoid > needing radiation. > > Not that you necessarily want multiple operations, but you could have a > lumpectomy. And if you need additional surgery, then decide what to do. > > I had a lumpectomy, then a mastectomy when I didn't have clear margins > and based on where the tumor was located. It wasn't pleasant to have 2 > operations in a month, but I think I would have always wondered if I did > the right thing if I hadn't tried a lumpectomy first. > > take care, > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ---------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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