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I really enjoyed reading the posts about weaning. I found them quite

comical as I can really relate! It is always such a good feeling to

know that I am not alone! Kaitlin is almost 5 months old and she

does the same thing in regards to waking up through the night.

Usually around midnight and then 4 am. She only needs to be

comforted/nursed for a moment around midnight, but at 4 am if I don't

put her in bed with us and nurse her until she is sound asleep and

content, she will scream her head off. It amazes my husband and I,

she can nurse constantly from 4-7am. If I pull away from her she

will wake up and cry. Sometimes she will suck 3 times in 5 minutes

just so I won't try to pull away...I know she is asleep, but only

until I try to pull away. I didn't know that it was such a common

thing for babies to do that. I just figured that she likes running me

out of the bed and the midnight wake up was an attempt to get in bed

with me sooner than 4 am. I love to cuddle her, but she runs me out

of bed. Usually my head, chest and knees are the only things that

fit on the bed. My husband laughs about it and says that " she's just

making sure Daddy has enough room, " Personally, I find it

uncomfortable to sleep with my butt hanging over the edge of the bed.

I guess that's why I won't let her sleep with me all of the time. LOL.

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Kaitlin Freeman 3-9-04 LCF

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LOL, , this is exactly my problem! If there were room enough

in our bed for EVERYONE to be comfortable, I'd be more than happy to

just leave Owen in our bed for the night...but that is not the case!

Hopefully for me, I can get away without doing the night feeds. With

the monitor off, I can't hear him - worked last night!

Daiga

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> I really enjoyed reading the posts about weaning. I found them

quite

> comical as I can really relate! It is always such a good feeling to

> know that I am not alone! Kaitlin is almost 5 months old and she

> does the same thing in regards to waking up through the night.

> Usually around midnight and then 4 am. She only needs to be

> comforted/nursed for a moment around midnight, but at 4 am if I

don't

> put her in bed with us and nurse her until she is sound asleep and

> content, she will scream her head off. It amazes my husband and I,

> she can nurse constantly from 4-7am. If I pull away from her she

> will wake up and cry. Sometimes she will suck 3 times in 5 minutes

> just so I won't try to pull away...I know she is asleep, but only

> until I try to pull away. I didn't know that it was such a common

> thing for babies to do that. I just figured that she likes running

me

> out of the bed and the midnight wake up was an attempt to get in

bed

> with me sooner than 4 am. I love to cuddle her, but she runs me

out

> of bed. Usually my head, chest and knees are the only things that

> fit on the bed. My husband laughs about it and says that " she's

just

> making sure Daddy has enough room, " Personally, I find it

> uncomfortable to sleep with my butt hanging over the edge of the

bed.

> I guess that's why I won't let her sleep with me all of the time.

LOL.

> Freeman

> Kaitlin Freeman 3-9-04 LCF

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Yes. I found these posts great!

My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started biting.

Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!! Does

anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to nurse

him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't want

to!

Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Yes. I found these posts great!

My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started biting.

Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!! Does

anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to nurse

him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't want

to!

Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Yes. I found these posts great!

My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started biting.

Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!! Does

anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to nurse

him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't want

to!

Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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When any of my 3 kids bit me - and it was early on for all of them - I simply

stopped the nursing session. At the young ages I only stopped for a minute or

two, at older ages the session was over once the teeth touched me. I would say

" No, no biting. Now you are dones because you bit me " You have to be VERY

consistent with this - you have to do it EVERY time so there is no question

about what is going on. It only took a few times with any of them to get the

point that biting was not ok with me.

Angel

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Yes. I found these posts great!

My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started biting.

Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!! Does

anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to nurse

him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't want

to!

Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Everett loves to show off his five new teeth while nursing. I'll take an

accident, but when it's deliberate I flick him on the forehead and tell him NO!

(yes, even little babies can play trick on you deliberately!) He'll ball up and

blubber a moment then go back to nursing. I figure I'm only a couple months

away from my year-long goal of nursing so I'll stick it out.

s.

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Zoe is only 5 months old, but bites with the gums she has and then

pulls away while she is still clamping down. We are getting through

it, I have stunned her a bit when she does it, by using a deep voice

and she lets go. I know a lot of moms who wean when they start to

bite, if they can't get them to stop.

Louisa

6-27-99

Zoe 2-22-04 RCF

> Yes. I found these posts great!

>

> My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

> straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

> latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started

biting.

> Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

> When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!!

Does

> anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to

nurse

> him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't

want

> to!

>

> Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Everett loves to show off his five new teeth while nursing. I'll take an

accident, but when it's deliberate I flick him on the forehead and tell him NO!

(yes, even little babies can play trick on you deliberately!) He'll ball up and

blubber a moment then go back to nursing. I figure I'm only a couple months

away from my year-long goal of nursing so I'll stick it out.

s.

Re: Weaning

Zoe is only 5 months old, but bites with the gums she has and then

pulls away while she is still clamping down. We are getting through

it, I have stunned her a bit when she does it, by using a deep voice

and she lets go. I know a lot of moms who wean when they start to

bite, if they can't get them to stop.

Louisa

6-27-99

Zoe 2-22-04 RCF

> Yes. I found these posts great!

>

> My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

> straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

> latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started

biting.

> Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

> When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!!

Does

> anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to

nurse

> him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't

want

> to!

>

> Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Zoe is only 5 months old, but bites with the gums she has and then

pulls away while she is still clamping down. We are getting through

it, I have stunned her a bit when she does it, by using a deep voice

and she lets go. I know a lot of moms who wean when they start to

bite, if they can't get them to stop.

Louisa

6-27-99

Zoe 2-22-04 RCF

> Yes. I found these posts great!

>

> My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to 7am

> straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he just

> latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started

biting.

> Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

> When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!!

Does

> anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to

nurse

> him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't

want

> to!

>

> Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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Owen had also starting biting about the time his teeth starting

coming in. I would immediately take him off and tell him " NO BITING "

in a very stern voice. He would sometimes cry at my reaction but he

got the message. I would let him get back on right away and if he

bit again, take him off and repeat the message. Three strikes was my

limit....if he did it a third time during one nursing session, I

would take him off and put him down and then make him wait at least a

half hour. During the night when he wasn't so aware of what he was

doing, I would rub teething gel (anbesol/orajel) over his gums and

that would usually help also.

Daiga

> > Yes. I found these posts great!

> >

> > My son is 10 months old. He nurses at 11pm, 1am and from 3am to

7am

> > straight. I really don't mind at all. He sleeps with us, so he

just

> > latches on and that's the end. However, lately he has started

> biting.

> > Yesterday I woke up to a huge bite from his little piranha teeth.

> > When I got ready for the shower, I saw blood on my nursing pad!!

> Does

> > anyone else have a biter? What can I do? I am getting scare to

> nurse

> > him. I am even thinking about weaning even though I really don't

> want

> > to!

> >

> > Cari and 9-24-03 BLCF

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I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

are okay :)

Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

more difficult while nursing.

Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

Marilouise

9/9/03,LCF,cast#3/2nd series

Owen and 3/20/99

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Cant help alot with the supply thing as I had serious supply issues with my last

2, but as f0or getting pregnant while nursing ... Kai came along when I was

still nursing my then 8 month old DD and right after a gyn told me there was

little chance I would get pregnant because my cycles were too screwy. No

kidding, 3 days later the ER told me I was pregnant!

Angel

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I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

are okay :)

Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

more difficult while nursing.

Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

Marilouise

9/9/03,LCF,cast#3/2nd series

Owen and 3/20/99

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I have found that with each child (3) I felt less and less full earlier and

absolutely by 12 mo with exactly as you describe. Long term nursing tends

to do this I think. Also, you'll letdown when you don't think they're

full, as long as you consume enough water. Water is essential for me, and

more so during the second or third year of nursing than even at first to

maintain supply. I had milk when I was pg with Darbi, and weaned at 11wpg

without even a tiny bit of engorgement. It just seems that they're not

working because they don't act like post partum breasts with the full

feeling and leaking or engorgement. But if you don't dehydrate yourself or

limit nursing it'll be there forever.

Probably the reason you didn't notice it with your twins was because you

were making twice the milk that you are now, and they were your

firsts. Night time is the worst for me, she nurses 4 or 5 times during the

day and to sleep and sometimes if she has a nursing crisis - meaning she

wants to nurse more in the evening I don't have enough to get her to

sleep. Or if I don't drink enough water. I have to drink at LEAST the

equivalent of 4 8oz glasses of water per day to not be feeling all deflated

and her nursing, and nursing, and nursing but not getting enough to let me

unlatch.

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

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At 06:42 PM 7/29/2004, you wrote:

>I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

>perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

>so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

>are okay :)

>Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

> Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

>for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

>still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

>the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

>her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

>wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

>was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

>sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

>her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

>*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

>stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

>want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

>Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

>for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

>getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

>more difficult while nursing.

>Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

>

>Marilouise

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I'm definitely with Kori on this needing to keep hydrated to keep supply up.

Especially when it's hot, you're chasing 3 kids around, you've got other

stresses.

My first decided she was through nursing at 8 months. I was not and thought

maybe she was just being stubborn and pushing my buttons(takes one to know one)

so I pumped for about 2 months and offered her the breast all the time. Anyway,

I finally gave in. Jonah, on the other hand, still loves to nurse at 13 months.

I do find though that my supply decreases if I am under any kind of stress, if I

let my blood sugar get low or if I don't drink enough water. At this point, he

doesn't have the patience to nurse and nurse and nurse to help get the supply

back up. So I do end up pumping some(I really like the Avent Isis pump) and I

have a friend who just adopted a baby who is just tickled to get to give her kid

good mama's milk.(It amazes me how creamy this stuff is, all nice and buttery

yellow, how come I'm not shedding pounds???) There are herbs said to help too:

fenugreek, some specialty teas--ask at a local health-food store.

As for getting pregnant while nursing. I believe my mother was nursing at least

one of us each time she got pregnant--well, except for me since I came first(of

6). In fact, she knew something was up when one day I started to nurse then

spit the milk back out. Allegedly being pregnant changes the taste. She had a

very easy time getting pregnant though, didn't have a period for 9 years, would

just turn up pregnant as soon as she started ovulating again. I can hardly

imagine...

It's very not clubfoot realted, but this topic has been fun to follow.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah Jonah(06/20/03, bcf)

frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

I have found that with each child (3) I felt less and less full earlier and

absolutely by 12 mo with exactly as you describe. Long term nursing tends

to do this I think. Also, you'll letdown when you don't think they're

full, as long as you consume enough water. Water is essential for me, and

more so during the second or third year of nursing than even at first to

maintain supply. I had milk when I was pg with Darbi, and weaned at 11wpg

without even a tiny bit of engorgement. It just seems that they're not

working because they don't act like post partum breasts with the full

feeling and leaking or engorgement. But if you don't dehydrate yourself or

limit nursing it'll be there forever.

Probably the reason you didn't notice it with your twins was because you

were making twice the milk that you are now, and they were your

firsts. Night time is the worst for me, she nurses 4 or 5 times during the

day and to sleep and sometimes if she has a nursing crisis - meaning she

wants to nurse more in the evening I don't have enough to get her to

sleep. Or if I don't drink enough water. I have to drink at LEAST the

equivalent of 4 8oz glasses of water per day to not be feeling all deflated

and her nursing, and nursing, and nursing but not getting enough to let me

unlatch.

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

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`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

At 06:42 PM 7/29/2004, you wrote:

>I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

>perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

>so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

>are okay :)

>Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

> Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

>for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

>still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

>the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

>her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

>wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

>was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

>sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

>her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

>*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

>stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

>want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

>Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

>for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

>getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

>more difficult while nursing.

>Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

>

>Marilouise

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I'm definitely with Kori on this needing to keep hydrated to keep supply up.

Especially when it's hot, you're chasing 3 kids around, you've got other

stresses.

My first decided she was through nursing at 8 months. I was not and thought

maybe she was just being stubborn and pushing my buttons(takes one to know one)

so I pumped for about 2 months and offered her the breast all the time. Anyway,

I finally gave in. Jonah, on the other hand, still loves to nurse at 13 months.

I do find though that my supply decreases if I am under any kind of stress, if I

let my blood sugar get low or if I don't drink enough water. At this point, he

doesn't have the patience to nurse and nurse and nurse to help get the supply

back up. So I do end up pumping some(I really like the Avent Isis pump) and I

have a friend who just adopted a baby who is just tickled to get to give her kid

good mama's milk.(It amazes me how creamy this stuff is, all nice and buttery

yellow, how come I'm not shedding pounds???) There are herbs said to help too:

fenugreek, some specialty teas--ask at a local health-food store.

As for getting pregnant while nursing. I believe my mother was nursing at least

one of us each time she got pregnant--well, except for me since I came first(of

6). In fact, she knew something was up when one day I started to nurse then

spit the milk back out. Allegedly being pregnant changes the taste. She had a

very easy time getting pregnant though, didn't have a period for 9 years, would

just turn up pregnant as soon as she started ovulating again. I can hardly

imagine...

It's very not clubfoot realted, but this topic has been fun to follow.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah Jonah(06/20/03, bcf)

frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

I have found that with each child (3) I felt less and less full earlier and

absolutely by 12 mo with exactly as you describe. Long term nursing tends

to do this I think. Also, you'll letdown when you don't think they're

full, as long as you consume enough water. Water is essential for me, and

more so during the second or third year of nursing than even at first to

maintain supply. I had milk when I was pg with Darbi, and weaned at 11wpg

without even a tiny bit of engorgement. It just seems that they're not

working because they don't act like post partum breasts with the full

feeling and leaking or engorgement. But if you don't dehydrate yourself or

limit nursing it'll be there forever.

Probably the reason you didn't notice it with your twins was because you

were making twice the milk that you are now, and they were your

firsts. Night time is the worst for me, she nurses 4 or 5 times during the

day and to sleep and sometimes if she has a nursing crisis - meaning she

wants to nurse more in the evening I don't have enough to get her to

sleep. Or if I don't drink enough water. I have to drink at LEAST the

equivalent of 4 8oz glasses of water per day to not be feeling all deflated

and her nursing, and nursing, and nursing but not getting enough to let me

unlatch.

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

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`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

At 06:42 PM 7/29/2004, you wrote:

>I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

>perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

>so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

>are okay :)

>Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

> Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

>for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

>still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

>the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

>her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

>wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

>was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

>sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

>her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

>*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

>stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

>want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

>Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

>for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

>getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

>more difficult while nursing.

>Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

>

>Marilouise

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I'm definitely with Kori on this needing to keep hydrated to keep supply up.

Especially when it's hot, you're chasing 3 kids around, you've got other

stresses.

My first decided she was through nursing at 8 months. I was not and thought

maybe she was just being stubborn and pushing my buttons(takes one to know one)

so I pumped for about 2 months and offered her the breast all the time. Anyway,

I finally gave in. Jonah, on the other hand, still loves to nurse at 13 months.

I do find though that my supply decreases if I am under any kind of stress, if I

let my blood sugar get low or if I don't drink enough water. At this point, he

doesn't have the patience to nurse and nurse and nurse to help get the supply

back up. So I do end up pumping some(I really like the Avent Isis pump) and I

have a friend who just adopted a baby who is just tickled to get to give her kid

good mama's milk.(It amazes me how creamy this stuff is, all nice and buttery

yellow, how come I'm not shedding pounds???) There are herbs said to help too:

fenugreek, some specialty teas--ask at a local health-food store.

As for getting pregnant while nursing. I believe my mother was nursing at least

one of us each time she got pregnant--well, except for me since I came first(of

6). In fact, she knew something was up when one day I started to nurse then

spit the milk back out. Allegedly being pregnant changes the taste. She had a

very easy time getting pregnant though, didn't have a period for 9 years, would

just turn up pregnant as soon as she started ovulating again. I can hardly

imagine...

It's very not clubfoot realted, but this topic has been fun to follow.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah Jonah(06/20/03, bcf)

frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

I have found that with each child (3) I felt less and less full earlier and

absolutely by 12 mo with exactly as you describe. Long term nursing tends

to do this I think. Also, you'll letdown when you don't think they're

full, as long as you consume enough water. Water is essential for me, and

more so during the second or third year of nursing than even at first to

maintain supply. I had milk when I was pg with Darbi, and weaned at 11wpg

without even a tiny bit of engorgement. It just seems that they're not

working because they don't act like post partum breasts with the full

feeling and leaking or engorgement. But if you don't dehydrate yourself or

limit nursing it'll be there forever.

Probably the reason you didn't notice it with your twins was because you

were making twice the milk that you are now, and they were your

firsts. Night time is the worst for me, she nurses 4 or 5 times during the

day and to sleep and sometimes if she has a nursing crisis - meaning she

wants to nurse more in the evening I don't have enough to get her to

sleep. Or if I don't drink enough water. I have to drink at LEAST the

equivalent of 4 8oz glasses of water per day to not be feeling all deflated

and her nursing, and nursing, and nursing but not getting enough to let me

unlatch.

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

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At 06:42 PM 7/29/2004, you wrote:

>I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

>perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

>so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

>are okay :)

>Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

> Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

>for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

>still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

>the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

>her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

>wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

>was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

>sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

>her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

>*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

>stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

>want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

>Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

>for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

>getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

>more difficult while nursing.

>Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

>

>Marilouise

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Hm, I am sitting here deciding which would be worse, having my period or having

so many kids I didn't have a period for NINE years! LOL! I'm leaning towards

staying knocked up for nine years! hahah

s.

Re: Re: Weaning

I'm definitely with Kori on this needing to keep hydrated to keep supply up.

Especially when it's hot, you're chasing 3 kids around, you've got other

stresses.

My first decided she was through nursing at 8 months. I was not and thought

maybe she was just being stubborn and pushing my buttons(takes one to know one)

so I pumped for about 2 months and offered her the breast all the time. Anyway,

I finally gave in. Jonah, on the other hand, still loves to nurse at 13 months.

I do find though that my supply decreases if I am under any kind of stress, if I

let my blood sugar get low or if I don't drink enough water. At this point, he

doesn't have the patience to nurse and nurse and nurse to help get the supply

back up. So I do end up pumping some(I really like the Avent Isis pump) and I

have a friend who just adopted a baby who is just tickled to get to give her kid

good mama's milk.(It amazes me how creamy this stuff is, all nice and buttery

yellow, how come I'm not shedding pounds???) There are herbs said to help too:

fenugreek, some specialty teas--ask at a local health-food store.

As for getting pregnant while nursing. I believe my mother was nursing at least

one of us each time she got pregnant--well, except for me since I came first(of

6). In fact, she knew something was up when one day I started to nurse then

spit the milk back out. Allegedly being pregnant changes the taste. She had a

very easy time getting pregnant though, didn't have a period for 9 years, would

just turn up pregnant as soon as she started ovulating again. I can hardly

imagine...

It's very not clubfoot realted, but this topic has been fun to follow.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah Jonah(06/20/03, bcf)

frogabog frogabog@...> wrote:

I have found that with each child (3) I felt less and less full earlier and

absolutely by 12 mo with exactly as you describe. Long term nursing tends

to do this I think. Also, you'll letdown when you don't think they're

full, as long as you consume enough water. Water is essential for me, and

more so during the second or third year of nursing than even at first to

maintain supply. I had milk when I was pg with Darbi, and weaned at 11wpg

without even a tiny bit of engorgement. It just seems that they're not

working because they don't act like post partum breasts with the full

feeling and leaking or engorgement. But if you don't dehydrate yourself or

limit nursing it'll be there forever.

Probably the reason you didn't notice it with your twins was because you

were making twice the milk that you are now, and they were your

firsts. Night time is the worst for me, she nurses 4 or 5 times during the

day and to sleep and sometimes if she has a nursing crisis - meaning she

wants to nurse more in the evening I don't have enough to get her to

sleep. Or if I don't drink enough water. I have to drink at LEAST the

equivalent of 4 8oz glasses of water per day to not be feeling all deflated

and her nursing, and nursing, and nursing but not getting enough to let me

unlatch.

Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

`·.¸.·´

At 06:42 PM 7/29/2004, you wrote:

>I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

>perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this week

>so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic posts

>are okay :)

>Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you do it?

> Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at all)

>for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I was

>still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel (forgive

>the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just successfully got

>her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

>wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours and I

>was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

>sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I indulge

>her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

>*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

>stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a day. I

>want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

>Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are going

>for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

>getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's even

>more difficult while nursing.

>Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

>

>Marilouise

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Hi Kori,

Thanks for the reply! I drink water all day but I've never measured

it. With all thr travle lately I probably am down on my intake.

Thanks for reminding me how important it is :)

Marilouise

> >I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

> >perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this

week

> >so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic

posts

> >are okay :)

> >Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you

do it?

> > Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at

all)

> >for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I

was

> >still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel

(forgive

> >the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just

successfully got

> >her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

> >wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours

and I

> >was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

> >sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I

indulge

> >her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

> >*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

> >stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a

day. I

> >want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

> >Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are

going

> >for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

> >getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's

even

> >more difficult while nursing.

> >Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

> >

> >Marilouise

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Hi Kori,

Thanks for the reply! I drink water all day but I've never measured

it. With all thr travle lately I probably am down on my intake.

Thanks for reminding me how important it is :)

Marilouise

> >I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

> >perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this

week

> >so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic

posts

> >are okay :)

> >Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you

do it?

> > Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at

all)

> >for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I

was

> >still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel

(forgive

> >the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just

successfully got

> >her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

> >wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours

and I

> >was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

> >sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I

indulge

> >her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

> >*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

> >stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a

day. I

> >want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

> >Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are

going

> >for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

> >getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's

even

> >more difficult while nursing.

> >Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

> >

> >Marilouise

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Hi Kori,

Thanks for the reply! I drink water all day but I've never measured

it. With all thr travle lately I probably am down on my intake.

Thanks for reminding me how important it is :)

Marilouise

> >I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

> >perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this

week

> >so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic

posts

> >are okay :)

> >Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you

do it?

> > Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at

all)

> >for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I

was

> >still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel

(forgive

> >the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just

successfully got

> >her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

> >wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours

and I

> >was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

> >sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I

indulge

> >her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

> >*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

> >stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a

day. I

> >want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

> >Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are

going

> >for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

> >getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's

even

> >more difficult while nursing.

> >Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

> >

> >Marilouise

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Hi Angel,

Yeah I have the screwy cycles too. Hence the difficulty getting

pregnant...may your good fortune extend to me should we decide to go

for it :)

Marilouise

> Cant help alot with the supply thing as I had serious supply

issues with my last 2, but as f0or getting pregnant while

nursing ... Kai came along when I was still nursing my then 8 month

old DD and right after a gyn told me there was little chance I would

get pregnant because my cycles were too screwy. No kidding, 3 days

later the ER told me I was pregnant!

>

> Angel

>

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Hi Angel,

Yeah I have the screwy cycles too. Hence the difficulty getting

pregnant...may your good fortune extend to me should we decide to go

for it :)

Marilouise

> Cant help alot with the supply thing as I had serious supply

issues with my last 2, but as f0or getting pregnant while

nursing ... Kai came along when I was still nursing my then 8 month

old DD and right after a gyn told me there was little chance I would

get pregnant because my cycles were too screwy. No kidding, 3 days

later the ER told me I was pregnant!

>

> Angel

>

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Hi Angel,

Yeah I have the screwy cycles too. Hence the difficulty getting

pregnant...may your good fortune extend to me should we decide to go

for it :)

Marilouise

> Cant help alot with the supply thing as I had serious supply

issues with my last 2, but as f0or getting pregnant while

nursing ... Kai came along when I was still nursing my then 8 month

old DD and right after a gyn told me there was little chance I would

get pregnant because my cycles were too screwy. No kidding, 3 days

later the ER told me I was pregnant!

>

> Angel

>

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Hi Naomi,

Yes, I am going to have to watch my water intake. That is all I

drink ever so I know there are some days when my tastebuds get bored

and I don't drink enough!

What's stress??? Is that the drowning feeling I have from

rearrangeing my life to accomodate 's trips to Baltimore?

LOL! Definitely stressed the past few weeks. I know we have all

been there at one point or another. My date book is starting to

look more like an appt book at a doc's office. Between Baltimore,

the cardiologist, her regular pediatrician checkups and seeing a

geneticist, she has 10 doc appts in the next 6 weeks! My Dh is gone

for 8 days straight in August and school starts for my older two

(Kindergarten!!) on 8/24. UUGGHHH -- so I am whining a bit, sorry.

I have the Avent Pump too and I do like it but am not having much

success pumping in between regular nursings. I don't get anything

sometimes and hardly ever get a let-down when using it.

LOL about your mom. Sounds like heaven to me! Okay well maybe not

the 6 kids, don't think I could handle that many!!

Marilouise

9/9/03, LCF, cast #4/2nd series

Owen and 3/20/99

> >I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

> >perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this

week

> >so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic

posts

> >are okay :)

> >Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you

do it?

> > Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at

all)

> >for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I

was

> >still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel

(forgive

> >the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just

successfully got

> >her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

> >wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours

and I

> >was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

> >sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I

indulge

> >her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

> >*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

> >stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a

day. I

> >want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

> >Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are

going

> >for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

> >getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's

even

> >more difficult while nursing.

> >Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

> >

> >Marilouise

>

>

>

>

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Hi Naomi,

Yes, I am going to have to watch my water intake. That is all I

drink ever so I know there are some days when my tastebuds get bored

and I don't drink enough!

What's stress??? Is that the drowning feeling I have from

rearrangeing my life to accomodate 's trips to Baltimore?

LOL! Definitely stressed the past few weeks. I know we have all

been there at one point or another. My date book is starting to

look more like an appt book at a doc's office. Between Baltimore,

the cardiologist, her regular pediatrician checkups and seeing a

geneticist, she has 10 doc appts in the next 6 weeks! My Dh is gone

for 8 days straight in August and school starts for my older two

(Kindergarten!!) on 8/24. UUGGHHH -- so I am whining a bit, sorry.

I have the Avent Pump too and I do like it but am not having much

success pumping in between regular nursings. I don't get anything

sometimes and hardly ever get a let-down when using it.

LOL about your mom. Sounds like heaven to me! Okay well maybe not

the 6 kids, don't think I could handle that many!!

Marilouise

9/9/03, LCF, cast #4/2nd series

Owen and 3/20/99

> >I have to say the discussions on breastfeeding/weaning came at a

> >perfect time. I haven't had a lot of time on the computer this

week

> >so I'm a little behind on the posts again. I hope the off-topic

posts

> >are okay :)

> >Anyway, for those of you who nursed past 12 months, how did you

do it?

> > Maintain your supply that is? I nursed my twins (no formula at

all)

> >for almost 13 months but supply was NEVER an issue with them. I

was

> >still leaking 2 weeks after weaning! With , I feel

(forgive

> >the term) like saggy, baggy elephant already! I just

successfully got

> >her to stop nursing in the middle of the night 5 nights ago. I

> >wouldn't have stopped except she was going back to every 2 hours

and I

> >was having a hard time functioning during the day on such broken

> >sleep. Now she nurses 4 times during the day regularly but I

indulge

> >her whenever she wants it. It just seems like I never have that

> >*full* feeling anymore. Is that just age? I can't remember this

> >stage with my older two...only that they were down to twice a

day. I

> >want to go past a year with . Hopefully 18 months.

> >Also, did any of you get pregnant while nursing? I think we are

going

> >for #4 (the last one if we do it) and I already have difficulties

> >getting pregnant. Just wondering if anyone has any tips if it's

even

> >more difficult while nursing.

> >Sorry to ramble on...Thanks!

> >

> >Marilouise

>

>

>

>

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