Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good luck! s. Sandals Well, we finally got the Sandals today. They seem too big, but I measured the shoes and her feet. The shoes are only .5 centimeter bigger than her right foot. I guess they just look big since her heel will not go into the back of them all of the way yet. We had to punch extra holes in the straps. They are more difficult to put on than the Markell shoes but, I am sure we will get the hang of it soon. They are really a lot softer than I expected them to be. So far we are pleased and Kaitlin has not seemed to mind them a bit! She just won't sit still long enough for me to get them on by myself...little rascal. Wish us luck! Freeman Kaitlin Freeman 3/9/04 LCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good >luck! >s. If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out and different lengths every night. I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ Kori Mama of Kenton - 6/98 Merek - 3/00 Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I've had the sandals from the beginning and I've never had any difficulties with her heels - even with her most effected foot. I've never had sores or any other problems as well so I guess I can't help you with your question. As far as the tongue thing - it was a bit too big initially and we had to tuck it between the yellow molded part and the base of the straps on the other side but now that her foot has grown bigger than a peanut, the tongue fits perfectly. I feel blessed to have them and while it's expensive to get the first pair, the $130 for the replacement pair is worth it to me. She's comfortable and therefore I'm thrilled. We are dealing with insurance for reimbursement and I hope things work out there. But we'll keep her in the sandals just as long as we can tighten the budget to do it. I think I've heard too many stories about sores and other issues with the other shoes... I'm running!!! LOL Chris Re: Sandals At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good >luck! >s. If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out and different lengths every night. I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ Kori Mama of Kenton - 6/98 Merek - 3/00 Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 All of you coming up with special tips lists, etc., here's what would be handy: A Glossary of Terminology. Um, you ask about the dorsiflexion......I'm not sure what that is. I can say Everett's feet seem great to me, no loss of range or mobility. s. Re: Sandals At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good >luck! >s. If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out and different lengths every night. I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ Kori Mama of Kenton - 6/98 Merek - 3/00 Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Ditto here - no problems what so ever, and the $130 is worth that to me. s. Re: Sandals At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good >luck! >s. If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out and different lengths every night. I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ Kori Mama of Kenton - 6/98 Merek - 3/00 Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 The sores and things are from tiny infant feet that aren't used to them. Once they're older, the foot is more foot shaped and they're used to wearing them the sores don't happen. So unless you've got an atypical foot they do really work quite well. They are also heavier duty than the s, and when baby starts crawling you never know what kind of damage will be done to the softer shoes so you may want to try them. Babies can really mess up a Markell crawling all around, the s probably will not hold up as well. I think we present a scarier image of the Markells than need be - it's parental error that makes for the problems. Not that we're to fault - we really can't be expected to know how to get these on properly but it is how we put them on that usually causes a problem. And really, as the foot grows there aren't any problems. Those tiny little feet that aren't used to shoes just are more difficult to work with. Kori At 03:47 AM 7/28/2004, you wrote: >I've had the sandals from the beginning and I've never had any >difficulties with her heels - even with her most effected foot. I've >never had sores or any other problems as well so I guess I can't help you >with your question. As far as the tongue thing - it was a bit too big >initially and we had to tuck it between the yellow molded part and the >base of the straps on the other side but now that her foot has grown >bigger than a peanut, the tongue fits perfectly. > >I feel blessed to have them and while it's expensive to get the first >pair, the $130 for the replacement pair is worth it to me. She's >comfortable and therefore I'm thrilled. We are dealing with insurance for >reimbursement and I hope things work out there. But we'll keep her in the >sandals just as long as we can tighten the budget to do it. I think I've >heard too many stories about sores and other issues with the other >shoes... I'm running!!! LOL >Chris > Re: Sandals > > > > > At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: > >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply > >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler > >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a > few > >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you > >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks > up. Good > >luck! > >s. > > > If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to > put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get > the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and > tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming > out > and different lengths every night. > > I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them > but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I > stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the > same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are > necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I > base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents > who > have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at > first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays > into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't > matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. > > For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not > seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time > frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few > months > at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? > > I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's > coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means > her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are > growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ > > > Kori > Mama of > Kenton - 6/98 > Merek - 3/00 > Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d > (¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸.·´ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 flex the toes up to his face. That's dorsiflexion. I asked what it was a long time ago here and not one answer lol - I was so confused!. I finally came to the conclusion what it was after reading up here and there and just *assuming*. But yes, dorsiflexion means how far they can flex the foot *up*. As opposed to pointing that is. Kori At 07:13 AM 7/28/2004, you wrote: >All of you coming up with special tips lists, etc., here's what would be >handy: A Glossary of Terminology. > >Um, you ask about the dorsiflexion......I'm not sure what that is. I can >say Everett's feet seem great to me, no loss of range or mobility. > >s. > > Re: Sandals > > > > >At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: > >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply > >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler > >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few > >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you > >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good > >luck! > >s. > > >If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to >put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get >the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and >tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out >and different lengths every night. > >I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them >but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I >stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the >same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are >necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I >base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who >have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at >first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays >into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't >matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. > >For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not >seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time >frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months >at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? > >I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's >coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means >her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are >growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ > > >Kori >Mama of >Kenton - 6/98 >Merek - 3/00 >Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d > (¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸.·´ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 flex the toes up to his face. That's dorsiflexion. I asked what it was a long time ago here and not one answer lol - I was so confused!. I finally came to the conclusion what it was after reading up here and there and just *assuming*. But yes, dorsiflexion means how far they can flex the foot *up*. As opposed to pointing that is. Kori At 07:13 AM 7/28/2004, you wrote: >All of you coming up with special tips lists, etc., here's what would be >handy: A Glossary of Terminology. > >Um, you ask about the dorsiflexion......I'm not sure what that is. I can >say Everett's feet seem great to me, no loss of range or mobility. > >s. > > Re: Sandals > > > > >At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: > >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply > >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler > >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few > >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you > >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good > >luck! > >s. > > >If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to >put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get >the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and >tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out >and different lengths every night. > >I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them >but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I >stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the >same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are >necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I >base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who >have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at >first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays >into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't >matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. > >For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not >seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time >frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months >at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? > >I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's >coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means >her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are >growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ > > >Kori >Mama of >Kenton - 6/98 >Merek - 3/00 >Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d > (¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) > `·.¸.·´ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. Realistically, the sandals cover just as much of the foot as the Markell's do, but I think they are cooler because there is less material overall involved. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Kai's heel also did not seat down at first. I believe it has to do with heel shaping. They have a pocket at the heel that is as deep as, if not a bit more so, the Markell's, but the materieal is solid, it will not break down and conform to the foot, so the foot has to conform to the shoe. How it play into the dorsiflexion ... well the actual shoe is slanted up as well as the bar (a tad), so at the least you a 0-5 degree dorsiflex, I think. Once the heel seats down then you are getting alot more. Even with areas of his foot relapsing, Kai still has about 30-40 degree of dorsiflexion, but then, he has always had awsome dorsiflexion since his tenotomy. what I found about seating the heel in was to hook the middle buckle semi-snug, then push down at the knee and up at the foot - thus dorsiflexing it and dropping the heel down - and hook the top buckle nice and snug, then re-tighten the middle strap really good. If you need to, you can put extra holes between the existing holes if one is too loose but the next is too tight. Then you just do up the bottom strap snug and that is that. At first, just like the Markells, they are a bit akward, but as soon as you hit your groove, they are easier by far than the Markells to get on. Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Just to let you kow so you are not completely scared of them, the Markell shoes work perfect for most. No blisters or sores, foot goes in well, and most of all feet stay corrected. We never had sores or problems with the shoes coming off (I think Kai slipped out of them once or twice) but his foot just would not stay corrected in them. If they would have done that one thing, we would not have switched. Angel Re: Sandals At 08:30 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote: >I am really surprised to hear you say the 's are harder to apply >than the Markel's. I found the 's to be a thousand times simpler >with just three buckles rather than a mile of shoe string. Give it a few >days, you may change your mind. I had to trim the tongue in my pair, you >might consider that if it hangs over the side too far and kinks up. Good >luck! >s. If you have to use them again, try the knots. They really make it easy to put on and they're always the same length. They loosen up enough to get the foot in but don't come out of the holes so all you do is buckle it and tighten it up. I would be crazy by now if I had those laces all coming out and different lengths every night. I want sandals for summer. I know, I'm vain and I won't get them but it's hot and I feel bad for her with the socks on. I have hot feet, I stick them out of the covers in winter. I know both my son's share the same, they don't like socks in bed, I never wear them. I know socks are necessary but I like the airy aspect of the sandals. It does seem, and I base this on the first picture I saw of a baby in these and the parents who have seen it and posted here, that the heel doesn't sit down well at first. While I know they say it's ok, I'm curious to know how this plays into the dorsiflexion being maintained. I think it's cool that it doesn't matter, one less thing to worry about but I'd like to know more about it. For those who have these and had the experience of seeing the heel not seated into the sandal at first, did it resolve itself and in what time frame? Those of you who have used them should be coming up on a few months at least in them right? Also, how many parents are there here using them? I just got Darbi's Markell 3's about 2 weeks ago. I noticed tonight she's coming up on about a mm to the edge of the soft inside sole. Which means her toes will be over the edge in about a month. This kid's feet are growing like mad. I couldn't afford to keep her in the 's. :~{ Kori Mama of Kenton - 6/98 Merek - 3/00 Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.·´ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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