Re: Anyone else have a toddler who is still nursing? Weaning tips appreciated!

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Can you slip a binky in to his mouth as you pull your nipple away? I have to do

that with mine. He's 10 months old and still nurses at night - around midnight

then around 4 a/m.

When I weaned my older child I started off by eliminating the morning nurse,

replacing it with a sippy cup of milk soon as he woke up. I gradually worked

down to reducing mid-day nursings - having a sippy cup ready and eventually I

put him to bed by giving him a cup of milk to drink first instead of nursing.

Hold and cuddle while they sip from the cup because they get as much from the

contact as they do for their belly, know what I mean? I recommend skipping the

bottle, go straight to a cup or you'll just have to wean him from the bottle

pretty soon. I have heard to give them watered down milk if they wake in the

night and slowly reduce that until it's just a cup of water with no milk to

break the stomach's habit of having food in the middle of the night. It's not

worth waking up for water.

s.

Anyone else have a toddler who is still nursing?

Weaning tips appreciated!

Hi all! Well, Owen is almost 18 months and is still nursing. He's

down to naptime, bedtime and then nighttime nursings. To be honest,

I don't mind the naptime and bedtime....it's the nighttime nursings

that are driving me batty!

For a while there, he was sleeping through the night so everything

was great. In the past month or so, he's been waking through the

night solely to nurse. I usually bring him to our bed, he latches

and then immediately settles down again while nursing. Each time I

try to unlatch him (so that I can move him back to his bed), as if in

a sleep-walking trance, he lurches his head forward to follow my

breast and get latched back on -- he doesn't even wake during this

time. Although, if I manage to get him off and cover up quickly

before he gets back on, he wakes up and has a screaming fit.

I've tried just ignoring him when he wakes up but he'll scream and

cry until he's rescued....30 minutes of hoarse crying is about my

limit since he shares a room with his 3 y/o sister -- not to mention

that my stomach is in knots while I lay there trying to ignore him.

I think tonight I may try turning off the baby monitor - perhaps if I

can't hear him, it will be easier to ignore him and he'll get the

message that 'booby time' is over!

Any thoughts, ideas or tips are appreciated!

Thanks,

Daiga

[Guest guest]

Can you slip a binky in to his mouth as you pull your nipple away? I have to do

that with mine. He's 10 months old and still nurses at night - around midnight

then around 4 a/m.

When I weaned my older child I started off by eliminating the morning nurse,

replacing it with a sippy cup of milk soon as he woke up. I gradually worked

down to reducing mid-day nursings - having a sippy cup ready and eventually I

put him to bed by giving him a cup of milk to drink first instead of nursing.

Hold and cuddle while they sip from the cup because they get as much from the

contact as they do for their belly, know what I mean? I recommend skipping the

bottle, go straight to a cup or you'll just have to wean him from the bottle

pretty soon. I have heard to give them watered down milk if they wake in the

night and slowly reduce that until it's just a cup of water with no milk to

break the stomach's habit of having food in the middle of the night. It's not

worth waking up for water.

s.

Anyone else have a toddler who is still nursing?

Weaning tips appreciated!

Hi all! Well, Owen is almost 18 months and is still nursing. He's

down to naptime, bedtime and then nighttime nursings. To be honest,

I don't mind the naptime and bedtime....it's the nighttime nursings

that are driving me batty!

For a while there, he was sleeping through the night so everything

was great. In the past month or so, he's been waking through the

night solely to nurse. I usually bring him to our bed, he latches

and then immediately settles down again while nursing. Each time I

try to unlatch him (so that I can move him back to his bed), as if in

a sleep-walking trance, he lurches his head forward to follow my

breast and get latched back on -- he doesn't even wake during this

time. Although, if I manage to get him off and cover up quickly

before he gets back on, he wakes up and has a screaming fit.

I've tried just ignoring him when he wakes up but he'll scream and

cry until he's rescued....30 minutes of hoarse crying is about my

limit since he shares a room with his 3 y/o sister -- not to mention

that my stomach is in knots while I lay there trying to ignore him.

I think tonight I may try turning off the baby monitor - perhaps if I

can't hear him, it will be easier to ignore him and he'll get the

message that 'booby time' is over!

Any thoughts, ideas or tips are appreciated!

Thanks,

Daiga

[Guest guest]

Can you slip a binky in to his mouth as you pull your nipple away? I have to do

that with mine. He's 10 months old and still nurses at night - around midnight

then around 4 a/m.

When I weaned my older child I started off by eliminating the morning nurse,

replacing it with a sippy cup of milk soon as he woke up. I gradually worked

down to reducing mid-day nursings - having a sippy cup ready and eventually I

put him to bed by giving him a cup of milk to drink first instead of nursing.

Hold and cuddle while they sip from the cup because they get as much from the

contact as they do for their belly, know what I mean? I recommend skipping the

bottle, go straight to a cup or you'll just have to wean him from the bottle

pretty soon. I have heard to give them watered down milk if they wake in the

night and slowly reduce that until it's just a cup of water with no milk to

break the stomach's habit of having food in the middle of the night. It's not

worth waking up for water.

s.

Anyone else have a toddler who is still nursing?

Weaning tips appreciated!

Hi all! Well, Owen is almost 18 months and is still nursing. He's

down to naptime, bedtime and then nighttime nursings. To be honest,

I don't mind the naptime and bedtime....it's the nighttime nursings

that are driving me batty!

For a while there, he was sleeping through the night so everything

was great. In the past month or so, he's been waking through the

night solely to nurse. I usually bring him to our bed, he latches

and then immediately settles down again while nursing. Each time I

try to unlatch him (so that I can move him back to his bed), as if in

a sleep-walking trance, he lurches his head forward to follow my

breast and get latched back on -- he doesn't even wake during this

time. Although, if I manage to get him off and cover up quickly

before he gets back on, he wakes up and has a screaming fit.

I've tried just ignoring him when he wakes up but he'll scream and

cry until he's rescued....30 minutes of hoarse crying is about my

limit since he shares a room with his 3 y/o sister -- not to mention

that my stomach is in knots while I lay there trying to ignore him.

I think tonight I may try turning off the baby monitor - perhaps if I

can't hear him, it will be easier to ignore him and he'll get the

message that 'booby time' is over!

Any thoughts, ideas or tips are appreciated!

Thanks,

Daiga

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Dagia,

All of mine have nursed past 2, I don't expect Darbi to be any

different. My oldest nursed till 4 actually. I nursed through my

pregnancy with #2 but because of the prospect of nursing aggravating

another premature birth (nipple stim. produces oxytocin and while not a

cause of preterm labor, if you're pre-disposed to it it could move it along

which I think is part of what happened with my preemie) I weaned at 11w

when I was pg with Darbi. I wish I hadn't done that. I know my second son

could have used a little more nursing time with me. He was 2.5 yo though

so it was ok to wean in my mind at that time. I would not wean before 2yo

personally. In my experience a 2yo needs to nurse as much as a 1yo

emotionally at least.

My first child night weaned at 16mo when I was pg with his brother. The

milk supply at night was limited and my breasts were irritated by nursing

because of pg so I wouldn't let him nurse long in the first place. So he

slept through at this age because when he would try to nurse there wasn't

much there and I'd pop him off because of irritation and he just had to

settle by himself then. We also co-sleep, there's no cribs in this

house. Not that I didn't think I'd want one - but the MIL never got it for

us and once I brought my first home there was NO WAY I was letting him

sleep alone and get up in the middle of the night to nurse. No way, not

me. I have never been sleep deprived, baby wakes, nuzzles and whimpers a

little, latches on and we both go right back to sleep. Simply perfect. So

all three have co-slept but when Darbi came I finally moved my boys to

their own room and bed. They share a full size bed now and it seems to

have helped with moving the middle child prematurely when Darbi was

born. We just up and sent them to their own room lol. Not totally sudden

because they'd been going to bed in that bed for a while and we would go

and get them when we went to bed while I was pg but after Darbs, we put

them to bed there and left them lol.

Merek (#2) did not night wean that early. No matter what I did to try to

discourage him from nursing at night he really seemed to need it. The kid

was hungry, plain and simple. He is, and always has been the child in this

house who needs food regularly and as soon as he's up he's wanting

something to eat. He morning nursed constantly when he was a baby even

after nursing 2 times at night. He would go to sleep around 8, wake at 11

or 12, again at 3 and again at 6 or 7 and then nurse all morning till I got

my sorry self out of bed. Then he needed breakfast. He's still like that,

constantly snacking all day long on fruit (LIVES for fruit) and needs his

meals regularly or he gets very cranky. This child just needs food and I

doubt I could have night weaned him before he was ready even if I really

wanted to. He did night wean at somewhere around 21-22mo IIRC. Apparently

that's when he was ready.

Darbi now, is 16mo's and still night nursing. However, she goes to sleep

at 8 (or 9 or 10 occasionally now that it's summer and light out later -

the boys have taken to playing outside longer as well) and usually doesn't

wake till 2 or 3am if I don't move her too much when I get into bed,

usually pretty late like 1 or 2am for some stupid reason. Then she nurses

at that time and again at about 7 or 8 am while I try to get a few more

minutes of sleep. She seems determined to nurse at night, when she wakes

she doesn't settle if she really wants to nurse. An interesting side note

though, if she wakes before I go to bed often I have to go and lie with her

and nurse her back to sleep. Been doing that for years so I'm fine with

it. But sometimes... all she needs/wants is for me to massage her calves

and sometimes I have to squeeze her shoes. Sometimes that puts her right

back to sleep. I am looking forward to night weaning but I'm not going to

press the matter because if she wants to, and feel hungry at night I am not

terribly interested in depriving her after knowing her brother needing it

for so long. She too is hungry in the morning and if I don't get breakfast

to her right away she'll nurse all morning long anyway.

Dunno if this was helpful - but maybe comforting to know you're not alone

with the night nursing. Since we co-sleep it's easy for both of us to

continue this. If she were waking in another room and I had to go get

her... well it'd probably be a different story. Same as if it happened

when they were infants - I'd hardly be able to deal with getting up and out

of bed myself plus it takes quite a bit to wake me up so they'd end up

crying to the point of hysterics which leaves a baby very awake and upset

as opposed to sleepy and right back to sleep after latching in my experience.

If you're bringing him to bed and then waiting for him to finish to take

him back to his room... well that'd be where I drew the line. And it

wouldn't be a hard line, it's be the one drawn between me relaxing and

going back to sleep and me striving to stay awake long enough to unlatch

him to take him back. I would be feeling like he's needing the comfort of

mama in the night and since that doesn't bother me I'd not take him back

but just leave him there with me. They all end up in bed with us in the

morning anyway lol.

Oh, and about the nursing to sleep thing. My first was able to go to sleep

without nursing when he was about 18mo IIRC. So I would put him in our

bed, read a story and he would go right to sleep. He did really good with

this but remember, he's the one who nursed till 4. Merek, no way. He

didn't not nurse to sleep till after 2yo sometime. Darbs is showing the

same tendencies. Unless she's REALLY tired (like tired enough to fall

asleep while I'm putting her shoes on - been known to happen) she wants to

nurse. And she's the only one who I was EVER able to just lie in the bed,

say goodnight and walk away when she was little. Last summer that happened

all the time. She was around 2-5mo old when this phenomenon would

happen. She also used to sleep through when she was just a few weeks old

and occasionally till she was 5mo old too. But not anymore lol.

I know this isn't helpful. No advice here. Just experiences :~} Good

luck with what you choose to do- and if it doesn't happen

remember... please remember... that this child will not nurse

forever. You WILL someday look back and realize that he's weaned and will

never nurse again. Will never sit in your lap and look up at you with

those sweet adoring eyes again. Will never caress your arms and sides like

he does when he's happy nursing now. Those *minutes* you spend sitting and

nursing (or lying) and relaxing with him will likely not happen much after

he weans - and when he's 3 or 4 and wants love he's going to come get a

hug, sit for about 10 seconds and then be on his way again. So keep in

mind that this phase is really and truly short lived and you won't ever get

it back again so it might just be ok to let it go for a few more months

till he shows you he's ready if you can stand it. If not - there are ways

to night wean but they're all too labor intensive for me lol... I'm all

for easy on mama hehe!

Kori

Mama of

Kenton - 6/98

Merek - 3/00

Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d

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Daiga,

You know I don't think it is necessarily the nursing, but maybe the age. I only

nursed Rose for about a month and switched her to formula. She is 16 1/2 months

old and just the last week or so she has started waking up in the night crying.

If I don't go get her hte crying gets louder and louder. When I get her she

immediately snuggles up to me and is fine. When she has been asleep for 1/2

hour or so, I'll put her back to bed and as soon as she realizes I am not there,

she starts crying again. The last three nights in a row she has managed to be

in my bed come morning. : )

She has done this to me before and I have found that if I indulge her clingyness

in a week or so it will go away. Hope it helps!

Robin & Rose

3/12/03

Right club foot.

Daiga Grady daiga.grady@...> wrote:

Hi all! Well, Owen is almost 18 months and is still nursing. He's

down to naptime, bedtime and then nighttime nursings. To be honest,

I don't mind the naptime and bedtime....it's the nighttime nursings

that are driving me batty!

For a while there, he was sleeping through the night so everything

was great. In the past month or so, he's been waking through the

night solely to nurse. I usually bring him to our bed, he latches

and then immediately settles down again while nursing. Each time I

try to unlatch him (so that I can move him back to his bed), as if in

a sleep-walking trance, he lurches his head forward to follow my

breast and get latched back on -- he doesn't even wake during this

time. Although, if I manage to get him off and cover up quickly

before he gets back on, he wakes up and has a screaming fit.

I've tried just ignoring him when he wakes up but he'll scream and

cry until he's rescued....30 minutes of hoarse crying is about my

limit since he shares a room with his 3 y/o sister -- not to mention

that my stomach is in knots while I lay there trying to ignore him.

I think tonight I may try turning off the baby monitor - perhaps if I

can't hear him, it will be easier to ignore him and he'll get the

message that 'booby time' is over!

Any thoughts, ideas or tips are appreciated!

Thanks,

Daiga

[Guest guest]

Kori, thanks for the encouragement! My problem is that my supply is

dwindling...in fact, only one side really works any more. When he's

on through the night, he's very aggressive - even though he's half

asleep - and it is becoming increasingly uncomfortable. To boot, our

bed seems too small (Queen) and no matter what, hubby will not budge

an inch to relinquish ANY of HIS space. More than half the time, I

end up just leaving Owen where he is but I then end up sleeping on

the outer 6 inches of the bed on my side with no where to move or

stretch or get comfortable...kwim?!

I know what you mean about weaning before they're ready! My first

weaned herself at 11 months (I don't think I was ready!) but as I was

pregnant with #2 at the time, I think that my supply had decreased

significantly. My second nursed until about 19 or 20 months - we

were both ready for it to end - she was a very aggressive nurser from

day 1 and it was beginning to take it's toll!

My 3rd was weaned prematurely just before 12 months - I had to go out

of town for a week for a family emergency and wasn't able to take her

with me. I was so sad for her....my hubby said that she screamed all

through the night for 3 nights straight and refused a sippy cup or

bottle....the 4th night, she slept through. After a week, I got

home, very engorged, and offered her the breast....she laughed at me

and pushed it away - I was heartbroken!

As I said, I don't have a problem nursing him through the day - he

nurses just before nap and bed. It's the nights that are driving me

crazy. Like Darby, he goes to bed around 7:30 - 8:00 but then

usually wakes up before I've gone to bed around 11 or 12. I nurse

him back to sleep and put him back in bed. Then he wakes again

anywhere from 1 - 4. I really don't think that he's hungry - he only

really nurses for about 2 minutes....but as soon as I try to

withdraw, he's right into it again!

I think for my own sanity, I need to get him to sleep through the

night.

Thanks again!

Daiga

> Dagia,

>

> All of mine have nursed past 2, I don't expect Darbi to be any

> different. My oldest nursed till 4 actually. I nursed through my

> pregnancy with #2 but because of the prospect of nursing

aggravating

> another premature birth (nipple stim. produces oxytocin and while

not a

> cause of preterm labor, if you're pre-disposed to it it could move

it along

> which I think is part of what happened with my preemie) I weaned at

11w

> when I was pg with Darbi. I wish I hadn't done that. I know my

second son

> could have used a little more nursing time with me. He was 2.5 yo

though

> so it was ok to wean in my mind at that time. I would not wean

before 2yo

> personally. In my experience a 2yo needs to nurse as much as a 1yo

> emotionally at least.

>

> My first child night weaned at 16mo when I was pg with his

brother. The

> milk supply at night was limited and my breasts were irritated by

nursing

> because of pg so I wouldn't let him nurse long in the first place.

So he

> slept through at this age because when he would try to nurse there

wasn't

> much there and I'd pop him off because of irritation and he just

had to

> settle by himself then. We also co-sleep, there's no cribs in this

> house. Not that I didn't think I'd want one - but the MIL never

got it for

> us and once I brought my first home there was NO WAY I was letting

him

> sleep alone and get up in the middle of the night to nurse. No

way, not

> me. I have never been sleep deprived, baby wakes, nuzzles and

whimpers a

> little, latches on and we both go right back to sleep. Simply

perfect. So

> all three have co-slept but when Darbi came I finally moved my boys

to

> their own room and bed. They share a full size bed now and it

seems to

> have helped with moving the middle child prematurely when Darbi was

> born. We just up and sent them to their own room lol. Not totally

sudden

> because they'd been going to bed in that bed for a while and we

would go

> and get them when we went to bed while I was pg but after Darbs, we

put

> them to bed there and left them lol.

>

> Merek (#2) did not night wean that early. No matter what I did to

try to

> discourage him from nursing at night he really seemed to need it.

The kid

> was hungry, plain and simple. He is, and always has been the child

in this

> house who needs food regularly and as soon as he's up he's wanting

> something to eat. He morning nursed constantly when he was a baby

even

> after nursing 2 times at night. He would go to sleep around 8,

wake at 11

> or 12, again at 3 and again at 6 or 7 and then nurse all morning

till I got

> my sorry self out of bed. Then he needed breakfast. He's still

like that,

> constantly snacking all day long on fruit (LIVES for fruit) and

needs his

> meals regularly or he gets very cranky. This child just needs food

and I

> doubt I could have night weaned him before he was ready even if I

really

> wanted to. He did night wean at somewhere around 21-22mo IIRC.

Apparently

> that's when he was ready.

>

> Darbi now, is 16mo's and still night nursing. However, she goes to

sleep

> at 8 (or 9 or 10 occasionally now that it's summer and light out

later -

> the boys have taken to playing outside longer as well) and usually

doesn't

> wake till 2 or 3am if I don't move her too much when I get into

bed,

> usually pretty late like 1 or 2am for some stupid reason. Then she

nurses

> at that time and again at about 7 or 8 am while I try to get a few

more

> minutes of sleep. She seems determined to nurse at night, when she

wakes

> she doesn't settle if she really wants to nurse. An interesting

side note

> though, if she wakes before I go to bed often I have to go and lie

with her

> and nurse her back to sleep. Been doing that for years so I'm fine

with

> it. But sometimes... all she needs/wants is for me to massage her

calves

> and sometimes I have to squeeze her shoes. Sometimes that puts her

right

> back to sleep. I am looking forward to night weaning but I'm not

going to

> press the matter because if she wants to, and feel hungry at night

I am not

> terribly interested in depriving her after knowing her brother

needing it

> for so long. She too is hungry in the morning and if I don't get

breakfast

> to her right away she'll nurse all morning long anyway.

>

> Dunno if this was helpful - but maybe comforting to know you're not

alone

> with the night nursing. Since we co-sleep it's easy for both of us

to

> continue this. If she were waking in another room and I had to go

get

> her... well it'd probably be a different story. Same as if it

happened

> when they were infants - I'd hardly be able to deal with getting up

and out

> of bed myself plus it takes quite a bit to wake me up so they'd end

up

> crying to the point of hysterics which leaves a baby very awake and

upset

> as opposed to sleepy and right back to sleep after latching in my

experience.

>

> If you're bringing him to bed and then waiting for him to finish to

take

> him back to his room... well that'd be where I drew the line. And

it

> wouldn't be a hard line, it's be the one drawn between me relaxing

and

> going back to sleep and me striving to stay awake long enough to

unlatch

> him to take him back. I would be feeling like he's needing the

comfort of

> mama in the night and since that doesn't bother me I'd not take him

back

> but just leave him there with me. They all end up in bed with us

in the

> morning anyway lol.

>

> Oh, and about the nursing to sleep thing. My first was able to go

to sleep

> without nursing when he was about 18mo IIRC. So I would put him in

our

> bed, read a story and he would go right to sleep. He did really

good with

> this but remember, he's the one who nursed till 4. Merek, no way.

He

> didn't not nurse to sleep till after 2yo sometime. Darbs is

showing the

> same tendencies. Unless she's REALLY tired (like tired enough to

fall

> asleep while I'm putting her shoes on - been known to happen) she

wants to

> nurse. And she's the only one who I was EVER able to just lie in

the bed,

> say goodnight and walk away when she was little. Last summer that

happened

> all the time. She was around 2-5mo old when this phenomenon would

> happen. She also used to sleep through when she was just a few

weeks old

> and occasionally till she was 5mo old too. But not anymore lol.

>

> I know this isn't helpful. No advice here. Just experiences :~}

Good

> luck with what you choose to do- and if it doesn't happen

> remember... please remember... that this child will not nurse

> forever. You WILL someday look back and realize that he's weaned

and will

> never nurse again. Will never sit in your lap and look up at you

with

> those sweet adoring eyes again. Will never caress your arms and

sides like

> he does when he's happy nursing now. Those *minutes* you spend

sitting and

> nursing (or lying) and relaxing with him will likely not happen

much after

> he weans - and when he's 3 or 4 and wants love he's going to come

get a

> hug, sit for about 10 seconds and then be on his way again. So

keep in

> mind that this phase is really and truly short lived and you won't

ever get

> it back again so it might just be ok to let it go for a few more

months

> till he shows you he's ready if you can stand it. If not - there

are ways

> to night wean but they're all too labor intensive for me lol...

I'm all

> for easy on mama hehe!

>

>

>

> Kori

> Mama of

> Kenton - 6/98

> Merek - 3/00

> Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d

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Hi

My son is 15 months and I nursed him for about 6 months but I had to go back

to work so I thought I could just do morning and night but I also found that

one had more than the other and in the end I don't think he was getting

anything..... I changed him to formula milk. He has never been the best

sleeper and I would put him to bed at about 7.30 with his milk and then

actually wake him at 11pm and give him another bottle which then took him

through till 6.30/7am. I have just stopped giving him his 11pm feed and

sometimes he goes through and sometimes (like last night) he must have woken

5 times. He had 2 extra bottles as he doesn't want comfort he just is so

cross that he is awake but he doesn't want me to leave the room, so I could

stay in there stroking his head for hours!!!! I still think it has been his

bar that has made him restless but then again, it could of course be

teeth!!! Who knows? Sometimes I wish I could just take him into bed with me

so I could get some sleep, but now he is not used to it and is a complete

wriggle, and we don't seem to have enough room either and it is so hot!! So

I just have to make the best of the 8/10 nights that he does sleep through!!

I am just thankful I am only part-time!!! Also he has dropped a nap in the

day so maybe sleeps only an hour now.

Does you son take any ordinary milk at all?

Rach, Steve & Connor (b/l c/f UK)

-- Anyone else have a toddler who is still

nursing? Weaning tips appreciated!

Hi all! Well, Owen is almost 18 months and is still nursing. He's

down to naptime, bedtime and then nighttime nursings. To be honest,

I don't mind the naptime and bedtime....it's the nighttime nursings

that are driving me batty!

For a while there, he was sleeping through the night so everything

was great. In the past month or so, he's been waking through the

night solely to nurse. I usually bring him to our bed, he latches

and then immediately settles down again while nursing. Each time I

try to unlatch him (so that I can move him back to his bed), as if in

a sleep-walking trance, he lurches his head forward to follow my

breast and get latched back on -- he doesn't even wake during this

time. Although, if I manage to get him off and cover up quickly

before he gets back on, he wakes up and has a screaming fit.

I've tried just ignoring him when he wakes up but he'll scream and

cry until he's rescued....30 minutes of hoarse crying is about my

limit since he shares a room with his 3 y/o sister -- not to mention

that my stomach is in knots while I lay there trying to ignore him.

I think tonight I may try turning off the baby monitor - perhaps if I

can't hear him, it will be easier to ignore him and he'll get the

message that 'booby time' is over!

Any thoughts, ideas or tips are appreciated!

Thanks,

Daiga

[Guest guest]

LOL ! Actually, that breast has ALWAYS been bigger by at least a

cup size - kind of makes it difficult to buy those sexy bras. It's

also always been the favoured breast by all of my babes...it's the

one that flows with little or no stimulation. I've been wanting to

have my boobs 'done' for about 10 years but had decided to wait and

have kids first and finish all of the breastfeeding stuff. Now that

I'm *almost* there, I'm kind of excited. I have a consultation lined

up for September.

Daiga

> > Dagia,

> >

> > All of mine have nursed past 2, I don't expect Darbi to be any

> > different. My oldest nursed till 4 actually. I nursed through

my

> > pregnancy with #2 but because of the prospect of nursing

> aggravating

> > another premature birth (nipple stim. produces oxytocin and

while

> not a

> > cause of preterm labor, if you're pre-disposed to it it could

move

> it along

> > which I think is part of what happened with my preemie) I

weaned at

> 11w

> > when I was pg with Darbi. I wish I hadn't done that. I know

my

> second son

> > could have used a little more nursing time with me. He was 2.5

yo

> though

> > so it was ok to wean in my mind at that time. I would not wean

> before 2yo

> > personally. In my experience a 2yo needs to nurse as much as a

1yo

> > emotionally at least.

> >

> > My first child night weaned at 16mo when I was pg with his

> brother. The

> > milk supply at night was limited and my breasts were irritated

by

> nursing

> > because of pg so I wouldn't let him nurse long in the first

place.

> So he

> > slept through at this age because when he would try to nurse

there

> wasn't

> > much there and I'd pop him off because of irritation and he

just

> had to

> > settle by himself then. We also co-sleep, there's no cribs in

this

> > house. Not that I didn't think I'd want one - but the MIL

never

> got it for

> > us and once I brought my first home there was NO WAY I was

letting

> him

> > sleep alone and get up in the middle of the night to nurse. No

> way, not

> > me. I have never been sleep deprived, baby wakes, nuzzles and

> whimpers a

> > little, latches on and we both go right back to sleep. Simply

> perfect. So

> > all three have co-slept but when Darbi came I finally moved my

boys

> to

> > their own room and bed. They share a full size bed now and it

> seems to

> > have helped with moving the middle child prematurely when Darbi

was

> > born. We just up and sent them to their own room lol. Not

totally

> sudden

> > because they'd been going to bed in that bed for a while and we

> would go

> > and get them when we went to bed while I was pg but after

Darbs, we

> put

> > them to bed there and left them lol.

> >

> > Merek (#2) did not night wean that early. No matter what I did

to

> try to

> > discourage him from nursing at night he really seemed to need

it.

> The kid

> > was hungry, plain and simple. He is, and always has been the

child

> in this

> > house who needs food regularly and as soon as he's up he's

wanting

> > something to eat. He morning nursed constantly when he was a

baby

> even

> > after nursing 2 times at night. He would go to sleep around 8,

> wake at 11

> > or 12, again at 3 and again at 6 or 7 and then nurse all

morning

> till I got

> > my sorry self out of bed. Then he needed breakfast. He's

still

> like that,

> > constantly snacking all day long on fruit (LIVES for fruit) and

> needs his

> > meals regularly or he gets very cranky. This child just needs

food

> and I

> > doubt I could have night weaned him before he was ready even if

I

> really

> > wanted to. He did night wean at somewhere around 21-22mo

IIRC.

> Apparently

> > that's when he was ready.

> >

> > Darbi now, is 16mo's and still night nursing. However, she

goes to

> sleep

> > at 8 (or 9 or 10 occasionally now that it's summer and light

out

> later -

> > the boys have taken to playing outside longer as well) and

usually

> doesn't

> > wake till 2 or 3am if I don't move her too much when I get into

> bed,

> > usually pretty late like 1 or 2am for some stupid reason. Then

she

> nurses

> > at that time and again at about 7 or 8 am while I try to get a

few

> more

> > minutes of sleep. She seems determined to nurse at night, when

she

> wakes

> > she doesn't settle if she really wants to nurse. An

interesting

> side note

> > though, if she wakes before I go to bed often I have to go and

lie

> with her

> > and nurse her back to sleep. Been doing that for years so I'm

fine

> with

> > it. But sometimes... all she needs/wants is for me to massage

her

> calves

> > and sometimes I have to squeeze her shoes. Sometimes that puts

her

> right

> > back to sleep. I am looking forward to night weaning but I'm

not

> going to

> > press the matter because if she wants to, and feel hungry at

night

> I am not

> > terribly interested in depriving her after knowing her brother

> needing it

> > for so long. She too is hungry in the morning and if I don't

get

> breakfast

> > to her right away she'll nurse all morning long anyway.

> >

> > Dunno if this was helpful - but maybe comforting to know you're

not

> alone

> > with the night nursing. Since we co-sleep it's easy for both

of us

> to

> > continue this. If she were waking in another room and I had to

go

> get

> > her... well it'd probably be a different story. Same as if it

> happened

> > when they were infants - I'd hardly be able to deal with

getting up

> and out

> > of bed myself plus it takes quite a bit to wake me up so they'd

end

> up

> > crying to the point of hysterics which leaves a baby very awake

and

> upset

> > as opposed to sleepy and right back to sleep after latching in

my

> experience.

> >

> > If you're bringing him to bed and then waiting for him to

finish to

> take

> > him back to his room... well that'd be where I drew the line.

And

> it

> > wouldn't be a hard line, it's be the one drawn between me

relaxing

> and

> > going back to sleep and me striving to stay awake long enough

to

> unlatch

> > him to take him back. I would be feeling like he's needing the

> comfort of

> > mama in the night and since that doesn't bother me I'd not take

him

> back

> > but just leave him there with me. They all end up in bed with

us

> in the

> > morning anyway lol.

> >

> > Oh, and about the nursing to sleep thing. My first was able to

go

> to sleep

> > without nursing when he was about 18mo IIRC. So I would put

him in

> our

> > bed, read a story and he would go right to sleep. He did

really

> good with

> > this but remember, he's the one who nursed till 4. Merek, no

way.

> He

> > didn't not nurse to sleep till after 2yo sometime. Darbs is

> showing the

> > same tendencies. Unless she's REALLY tired (like tired enough

to

> fall

> > asleep while I'm putting her shoes on - been known to happen)

she

> wants to

> > nurse. And she's the only one who I was EVER able to just lie

in

> the bed,

> > say goodnight and walk away when she was little. Last summer

that

> happened

> > all the time. She was around 2-5mo old when this phenomenon

would

> > happen. She also used to sleep through when she was just a few

> weeks old

> > and occasionally till she was 5mo old too. But not anymore lol.

> >

> > I know this isn't helpful. No advice here. Just

experiences :~}

> Good

> > luck with what you choose to do- and if it doesn't happen

> > remember... please remember... that this child will not nurse

> > forever. You WILL someday look back and realize that he's

weaned

> and will

> > never nurse again. Will never sit in your lap and look up at

you

> with

> > those sweet adoring eyes again. Will never caress your arms

and

> sides like

> > he does when he's happy nursing now. Those *minutes* you spend

> sitting and

> > nursing (or lying) and relaxing with him will likely not happen

> much after

> > he weans - and when he's 3 or 4 and wants love he's going to

come

> get a

> > hug, sit for about 10 seconds and then be on his way again. So

> keep in

> > mind that this phase is really and truly short lived and you

won't

> ever get

> > it back again so it might just be ok to let it go for a few

more

> months

> > till he shows you he's ready if you can stand it. If not -

there

> are ways

> > to night wean but they're all too labor intensive for me

lol...

> I'm all

> > for easy on mama hehe!

> >

> >

> >

> > Kori

> > Mama of

> > Kenton - 6/98

> > Merek - 3/00

> > Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d

> > (¨`·.·´¨)

> > `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

> > `·.¸.·´

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL ! Actually, that breast has ALWAYS been bigger by at least a

cup size - kind of makes it difficult to buy those sexy bras. It's

also always been the favoured breast by all of my babes...it's the

one that flows with little or no stimulation. I've been wanting to

have my boobs 'done' for about 10 years but had decided to wait and

have kids first and finish all of the breastfeeding stuff. Now that

I'm *almost* there, I'm kind of excited. I have a consultation lined

up for September.

Daiga

> > Dagia,

> >

> > All of mine have nursed past 2, I don't expect Darbi to be any

> > different. My oldest nursed till 4 actually. I nursed through

my

> > pregnancy with #2 but because of the prospect of nursing

> aggravating

> > another premature birth (nipple stim. produces oxytocin and

while

> not a

> > cause of preterm labor, if you're pre-disposed to it it could

move

> it along

> > which I think is part of what happened with my preemie) I

weaned at

> 11w

> > when I was pg with Darbi. I wish I hadn't done that. I know

my

> second son

> > could have used a little more nursing time with me. He was 2.5

yo

> though

> > so it was ok to wean in my mind at that time. I would not wean

> before 2yo

> > personally. In my experience a 2yo needs to nurse as much as a

1yo

> > emotionally at least.

> >

> > My first child night weaned at 16mo when I was pg with his

> brother. The

> > milk supply at night was limited and my breasts were irritated

by

> nursing

> > because of pg so I wouldn't let him nurse long in the first

place.

> So he

> > slept through at this age because when he would try to nurse

there

> wasn't

> > much there and I'd pop him off because of irritation and he

just

> had to

> > settle by himself then. We also co-sleep, there's no cribs in

this

> > house. Not that I didn't think I'd want one - but the MIL

never

> got it for

> > us and once I brought my first home there was NO WAY I was

letting

> him

> > sleep alone and get up in the middle of the night to nurse. No

> way, not

> > me. I have never been sleep deprived, baby wakes, nuzzles and

> whimpers a

> > little, latches on and we both go right back to sleep. Simply

> perfect. So

> > all three have co-slept but when Darbi came I finally moved my

boys

> to

> > their own room and bed. They share a full size bed now and it

> seems to

> > have helped with moving the middle child prematurely when Darbi

was

> > born. We just up and sent them to their own room lol. Not

totally

> sudden

> > because they'd been going to bed in that bed for a while and we

> would go

> > and get them when we went to bed while I was pg but after

Darbs, we

> put

> > them to bed there and left them lol.

> >

> > Merek (#2) did not night wean that early. No matter what I did

to

> try to

> > discourage him from nursing at night he really seemed to need

it.

> The kid

> > was hungry, plain and simple. He is, and always has been the

child

> in this

> > house who needs food regularly and as soon as he's up he's

wanting

> > something to eat. He morning nursed constantly when he was a

baby

> even

> > after nursing 2 times at night. He would go to sleep around 8,

> wake at 11

> > or 12, again at 3 and again at 6 or 7 and then nurse all

morning

> till I got

> > my sorry self out of bed. Then he needed breakfast. He's

still

> like that,

> > constantly snacking all day long on fruit (LIVES for fruit) and

> needs his

> > meals regularly or he gets very cranky. This child just needs

food

> and I

> > doubt I could have night weaned him before he was ready even if

I

> really

> > wanted to. He did night wean at somewhere around 21-22mo

IIRC.

> Apparently

> > that's when he was ready.

> >

> > Darbi now, is 16mo's and still night nursing. However, she

goes to

> sleep

> > at 8 (or 9 or 10 occasionally now that it's summer and light

out

> later -

> > the boys have taken to playing outside longer as well) and

usually

> doesn't

> > wake till 2 or 3am if I don't move her too much when I get into

> bed,

> > usually pretty late like 1 or 2am for some stupid reason. Then

she

> nurses

> > at that time and again at about 7 or 8 am while I try to get a

few

> more

> > minutes of sleep. She seems determined to nurse at night, when

she

> wakes

> > she doesn't settle if she really wants to nurse. An

interesting

> side note

> > though, if she wakes before I go to bed often I have to go and

lie

> with her

> > and nurse her back to sleep. Been doing that for years so I'm

fine

> with

> > it. But sometimes... all she needs/wants is for me to massage

her

> calves

> > and sometimes I have to squeeze her shoes. Sometimes that puts

her

> right

> > back to sleep. I am looking forward to night weaning but I'm

not

> going to

> > press the matter because if she wants to, and feel hungry at

night

> I am not

> > terribly interested in depriving her after knowing her brother

> needing it

> > for so long. She too is hungry in the morning and if I don't

get

> breakfast

> > to her right away she'll nurse all morning long anyway.

> >

> > Dunno if this was helpful - but maybe comforting to know you're

not

> alone

> > with the night nursing. Since we co-sleep it's easy for both

of us

> to

> > continue this. If she were waking in another room and I had to

go

> get

> > her... well it'd probably be a different story. Same as if it

> happened

> > when they were infants - I'd hardly be able to deal with

getting up

> and out

> > of bed myself plus it takes quite a bit to wake me up so they'd

end

> up

> > crying to the point of hysterics which leaves a baby very awake

and

> upset

> > as opposed to sleepy and right back to sleep after latching in

my

> experience.

> >

> > If you're bringing him to bed and then waiting for him to

finish to

> take

> > him back to his room... well that'd be where I drew the line.

And

> it

> > wouldn't be a hard line, it's be the one drawn between me

relaxing

> and

> > going back to sleep and me striving to stay awake long enough

to

> unlatch

> > him to take him back. I would be feeling like he's needing the

> comfort of

> > mama in the night and since that doesn't bother me I'd not take

him

> back

> > but just leave him there with me. They all end up in bed with

us

> in the

> > morning anyway lol.

> >

> > Oh, and about the nursing to sleep thing. My first was able to

go

> to sleep

> > without nursing when he was about 18mo IIRC. So I would put

him in

> our

> > bed, read a story and he would go right to sleep. He did

really

> good with

> > this but remember, he's the one who nursed till 4. Merek, no

way.

> He

> > didn't not nurse to sleep till after 2yo sometime. Darbs is

> showing the

> > same tendencies. Unless she's REALLY tired (like tired enough

to

> fall

> > asleep while I'm putting her shoes on - been known to happen)

she

> wants to

> > nurse. And she's the only one who I was EVER able to just lie

in

> the bed,

> > say goodnight and walk away when she was little. Last summer

that

> happened

> > all the time. She was around 2-5mo old when this phenomenon

would

> > happen. She also used to sleep through when she was just a few

> weeks old

> > and occasionally till she was 5mo old too. But not anymore lol.

> >

> > I know this isn't helpful. No advice here. Just

experiences :~}

> Good

> > luck with what you choose to do- and if it doesn't happen

> > remember... please remember... that this child will not nurse

> > forever. You WILL someday look back and realize that he's

weaned

> and will

> > never nurse again. Will never sit in your lap and look up at

you

> with

> > those sweet adoring eyes again. Will never caress your arms

and

> sides like

> > he does when he's happy nursing now. Those *minutes* you spend

> sitting and

> > nursing (or lying) and relaxing with him will likely not happen

> much after

> > he weans - and when he's 3 or 4 and wants love he's going to

come

> get a

> > hug, sit for about 10 seconds and then be on his way again. So

> keep in

> > mind that this phase is really and truly short lived and you

won't

> ever get

> > it back again so it might just be ok to let it go for a few

more

> months

> > till he shows you he's ready if you can stand it. If not -

there

> are ways

> > to night wean but they're all too labor intensive for me

lol...

> I'm all

> > for easy on mama hehe!

> >

> >

> >

> > Kori

> > Mama of

> > Kenton - 6/98

> > Merek - 3/00

> > Darbi - 3/28/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/d

> > (¨`·.·´¨)

> > `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨)

> > `·.¸.·´

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Does you son take any ordinary milk at all?

>

> Rach, Steve & Connor (b/l c/f UK)

Oh yes, he drinks from sippy cups through the day. He drinks milk or

juice or punch drinks. It's not that he can't use a sippy cup

through the night, it's that he won't. He's very stubborn!

Last night I ended up going to bed and turning off the baby monitor.

It worked...I slept through until 7am. Whether Owen woke or not, I

don't know - if he did, I didn't hear him! He was fine this morning,

FAB still on (he tends to take it off when he's having a tantrum in

his crib - he's the only one of my 4 kids who can undo double and

triple tied knots!), and ate breakfast like a champ. I think I'm

going to continue with the monitor off for the remainder of the week

and see what happens.

Daiga

[Guest guest]

Agreeing with Robin. Kai is 19 months and has just stopped doing this again.

For about a month or so between 17-18 mo he was super clingy and refused to even

fall asleep in his own bed. Bit by bit he began falling asleep in his own bed

again (I tried it every night!) and then he stopped waking up in the middle of

the night (again) last week, I think.

Soooo ... it might just be that Owen is going thru one of those stages and so is

unwilling to stop nursing.

Just a thought, but when I ws weaning Kai, I weaned him from night nursing

first. I usually sleep without a shirt on, but while doing this I made sure to

always be covered, and when he woke up, I would go get him and bring him to bed

and just cuddle him close, not nurse. If he did not settle down after a while,

I would nurse him for a couple minutes then stop and just cuddle him. If he

protested, I just quietly told him " no, no more nursing right now, it is sleep

time " . It took some time, but soon he got the idea!

Angel

Re: Anyone else have a toddler who is still

nursing? Weaning tips appreciated!

Daiga,

You know I don't think it is necessarily the nursing, but maybe the age.