Re: new to this....[Scanned]

[Guest guest]

> Re: new to this....[scanned]

>

>

> > You talk about antibodies. What is Graves and Hashimotos?

>

> Hashimoto's is also an autoimmune thyroid disorder but it is on the

> flip side of Grave's..the antibodies attack the throid , causing

> thyroid distruction..this destruction causes hypothyroidism..90 % of

> all hypothyroidism is caused either by treatment for hyper( RAI or

> surgery) treatment for nodules or cancer, or by Hashimoto's.

Also, antibodies for hashis (not sure about Graves but probably)

can cause symptoms all on their own. So you may fatigue and pain

long before your thyroid levels are out of wack. A good doctor

will treat hashis early if you are having symptoms (a real good

doctor will treat with mild symptoms :-) I was diagnosised with

fibromyalgia long before hashimotos. Some people think that all

fibro is untreated hashis. My fibro symptoms went way down when

I first when on thryoid treatment. I have had a flare resently

but my antibodies are still down and my thryoid levels all look

good. Could be long term damage to my muscles from either the

hashis or the statins (evil drugs for my body). Or I could have

yet another undiagnosised immune disease. My family is a study

in them--RA, sjorgen's, IgA nephropathy, hashi's, fibromyalgia,

among others.

BTW, I'm off the statins and I would not recommend them for anyone

who was diagnosised with hashimotos.

Georgia

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this info....

I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes so

much sense now.

Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise, supplements,

diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period. The doc

said he won't treat me for 6 months minimum. That I am in a 'holding'

pattern, and though my numbers are improving, he isn't going to do

anything but sit and wait. But here I sit and wait and wonder if there

is anything else that I can do to make myself more normal....

And one last question...

Does anyone know why? Why I would have been hypo and then went so hyper

so fast?

Thanks

in Indiana.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this info....

I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes so

much sense now.

Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise, supplements,

diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period. The doc

said he won't treat me for 6 months minimum. That I am in a 'holding'

pattern, and though my numbers are improving, he isn't going to do

anything but sit and wait. But here I sit and wait and wonder if there

is anything else that I can do to make myself more normal....

And one last question...

Does anyone know why? Why I would have been hypo and then went so hyper

so fast?

Thanks

in Indiana.

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this info....

I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes so

much sense now.

Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise, supplements,

diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period. The doc

said he won't treat me for 6 months minimum. That I am in a 'holding'

pattern, and though my numbers are improving, he isn't going to do

anything but sit and wait. But here I sit and wait and wonder if there

is anything else that I can do to make myself more normal....

And one last question...

Does anyone know why? Why I would have been hypo and then went so hyper

so fast?

Thanks

in Indiana.

[Guest guest]

Antibodies is why you have gone from Hypo to Hyper..

Two things I have done that have helped.. lower my iodine intake..and

a strong B-Complex vitamin..

6 months is a long wait though, make sure they are monitoring you

monthly with the option for a sooner check up if you move quickly

either hyper or hypo..

Kats3boys

>

>

> Thank you for this info....

>

> I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes

so

> much sense now.

>

> Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise,

supplements,

> diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period.

[Guest guest]

Antibodies is why you have gone from Hypo to Hyper..

Two things I have done that have helped.. lower my iodine intake..and

a strong B-Complex vitamin..

6 months is a long wait though, make sure they are monitoring you

monthly with the option for a sooner check up if you move quickly

either hyper or hypo..

Kats3boys

>

>

> Thank you for this info....

>

> I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes

so

> much sense now.

>

> Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise,

supplements,

> diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period.

[Guest guest]

Antibodies is why you have gone from Hypo to Hyper..

Two things I have done that have helped.. lower my iodine intake..and

a strong B-Complex vitamin..

6 months is a long wait though, make sure they are monitoring you

monthly with the option for a sooner check up if you move quickly

either hyper or hypo..

Kats3boys

>

>

> Thank you for this info....

>

> I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes

so

> much sense now.

>

> Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise,

supplements,

> diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period.

[Guest guest]

I have been taking a complex B vitamin...and prenatals (they have

calcium--no more babies here)I did take a Omega 3 fatty acid one, but

ran out....and haven't had the time to stop and get some.

I do have a check up next month, with more labs, because he was

originally going to make me wait 4 months, but now he says 6.

It is frustrating because he isn't the one not feeling well, having

night mares, and the night sweats....then being so stinking tired all

day....

Then going on a rage when hubby hasn't followed through on what he said

he was going to do.....

Re: new to this....[scanned]

Antibodies is why you have gone from Hypo to Hyper..

Two things I have done that have helped.. lower my iodine intake..and

a strong B-Complex vitamin..

6 months is a long wait though, make sure they are monitoring you

monthly with the option for a sooner check up if you move quickly

either hyper or hypo..

Kats3boys

>

>

> Thank you for this info....

>

> I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes

so

> much sense now.

>

> Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise,

supplements,

> diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period.

[Guest guest]

I have been taking a complex B vitamin...and prenatals (they have

calcium--no more babies here)I did take a Omega 3 fatty acid one, but

ran out....and haven't had the time to stop and get some.

I do have a check up next month, with more labs, because he was

originally going to make me wait 4 months, but now he says 6.

It is frustrating because he isn't the one not feeling well, having

night mares, and the night sweats....then being so stinking tired all

day....

Then going on a rage when hubby hasn't followed through on what he said

he was going to do.....

Re: new to this....[scanned]

Antibodies is why you have gone from Hypo to Hyper..

Two things I have done that have helped.. lower my iodine intake..and

a strong B-Complex vitamin..

6 months is a long wait though, make sure they are monitoring you

monthly with the option for a sooner check up if you move quickly

either hyper or hypo..

Kats3boys

>

>

> Thank you for this info....

>

> I did call and ask today and my test was a T4 not a TSH- which makes

so

> much sense now.

>

> Is there anything that anyone is doing, vitamins, exercise,

supplements,

> diets that is regulating while they are in this waiting period.

[Guest guest]

Avoiding Iodine has cut way back on the sweats, shakes, heart palps

etc. You did a little 150mcg daily but most people get 700mcg daily,

Iodine stimulates the thyroid, right now you want to rest the Thyroid,

I have been borderline for a year and 1/2 now. The only thing that has

really helped me is the limiting of Iodine...

I take the B-Complex cause it gives me energy in the mornings when I

have not slept..and I try to eat protien at every meal.. check your

prenatal and see if it has iodine in it?

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

My hubby is on me constantly about eating better.

Mostly, I hate cooking. He is home on medical leave right now. He is a

cop, injured in the line of duty (knee) and he sits all day and expects

me to make dinner cause he can't stand long enough to do it. After all

the cleaning, and the working, and the kiddo - a bowl of cereal works

for me.

I know where you are coming from..I have three boys and work and they

are all in sports etc. so it is run here , run there, do this do

that..and get them fed in 20 mins and out the door.. a slow cooker

really helped out for this..

You do really want to try and avoid processed food as much as possible

though..

When I was new to this I had everyone tell me too main things..Armour

would cure all..and add iodine, the more iodine the better..

The Armour question was easy..with T4 and T3 at the very top end of

the normal range I was not about to add more T4 and T3 to push it

over..for some reason I could not understand the logic in that.

The iodine question was a little harder..there is just as much info

for Iodine as ther is for..the WHO( wolrd health organization) who is

responsible for the Iodine hooplah has a lot of articles and a lot of

info if you wish on regulating ionization in iodine defficient areas

and problems they have had with too much iodine..that and I am very

chemically sensitive I decided to iliminate it first.. after about two

weeks on a no iodine diet I accidently ingested a lot of iodine (

eating out) ..I really did not feel much of a difference to this point

as I kind of swing in and out of hyper as it is..

I had such a bad reaction that I had two people who I did not even

know tell me I had grave's disease..you could see my pulse across the

table from my neck..I still have a bad reaction to iodine if I take in

too much but do realize in a bowl of cereal you are getting your full

daily amount so anything above that is extra iodine to stimulate your

thyroid.. the thyroid needs iodine to make thyroid hormone..

You really do need to get hubby on your side though..he needs to

understand what is going on and how he can help..

Things that would work is a stool he could sit on in the kitchen so he

is off his knee..

Other things that have worked for me..a slow cooker..throw the meat in

in the morning and when you get home dinner is ready.. my boys love

rice so I have a rice cooker and when we get home I throw on the rice,

takes about 20 mins and no watching it cook. Today is my day off so we

are going to the produce market and I will grab fresh fruit and

veggies for the week, cut them up and store them in the fridge.. this

way when I need a snack or for lunch , dinner there is fresh veggies

cut up already to go, no cooking , no prep ready to go. When you do

cook, cook some extra that you can freeze.. that way when you have a

day, hubby can just defrost things for you..and learn to read labels..

Whether you are hypo or hyper diet plays a very important role in the

healing process, JMO but chemicals added to food is the main reason

thyroid disorders and othe autoimmune disorders on on a rise.. most

people feel the healthiest going back to the way grandma use to cook,

real butter, real milk.. real food..dinner was never meant to come in

a box or a can..

It is hard, especially with such a busy schedule, not enough hours in

the day, and not enough sleep when you are feeling rough and burnt out.

When you are hyper or subclinical hyper your body uses a lot more

food, the digestive track moves quicker so you absorb less nutrients

from your food, and your body is needing more nutrients.. your food

cravings have to do with the gylcemic index..they are all foods that

your body needs to make sugar so it can get energy from the food..

Your prenatal is helping you right now...but you need to add protien

to almost every meal as that is why you have sore muscles and what

causes muscle wasting..eating more often and not skipping meals should

help balance out the gylcemic index.

But you need to find a way to get this all to work for you.. and hubby

needs to help.. obviously with a knee injury standing for cooking is

hard not to mention being a male injured domestic duties may be

beneath him, hurts the pride.. but you both need to find something

together so you both eat more healthy..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

My hubby is on me constantly about eating better.

Mostly, I hate cooking. He is home on medical leave right now. He is a

cop, injured in the line of duty (knee) and he sits all day and expects

me to make dinner cause he can't stand long enough to do it. After all

the cleaning, and the working, and the kiddo - a bowl of cereal works

for me.

I know where you are coming from..I have three boys and work and they

are all in sports etc. so it is run here , run there, do this do

that..and get them fed in 20 mins and out the door.. a slow cooker

really helped out for this..

You do really want to try and avoid processed food as much as possible

though..

When I was new to this I had everyone tell me too main things..Armour

would cure all..and add iodine, the more iodine the better..

The Armour question was easy..with T4 and T3 at the very top end of

the normal range I was not about to add more T4 and T3 to push it

over..for some reason I could not understand the logic in that.

The iodine question was a little harder..there is just as much info

for Iodine as ther is for..the WHO( wolrd health organization) who is

responsible for the Iodine hooplah has a lot of articles and a lot of

info if you wish on regulating ionization in iodine defficient areas

and problems they have had with too much iodine..that and I am very

chemically sensitive I decided to iliminate it first.. after about two

weeks on a no iodine diet I accidently ingested a lot of iodine (

eating out) ..I really did not feel much of a difference to this point

as I kind of swing in and out of hyper as it is..

I had such a bad reaction that I had two people who I did not even

know tell me I had grave's disease..you could see my pulse across the

table from my neck..I still have a bad reaction to iodine if I take in

too much but do realize in a bowl of cereal you are getting your full

daily amount so anything above that is extra iodine to stimulate your

thyroid.. the thyroid needs iodine to make thyroid hormone..

You really do need to get hubby on your side though..he needs to

understand what is going on and how he can help..

Things that would work is a stool he could sit on in the kitchen so he

is off his knee..

Other things that have worked for me..a slow cooker..throw the meat in

in the morning and when you get home dinner is ready.. my boys love

rice so I have a rice cooker and when we get home I throw on the rice,

takes about 20 mins and no watching it cook. Today is my day off so we

are going to the produce market and I will grab fresh fruit and

veggies for the week, cut them up and store them in the fridge.. this

way when I need a snack or for lunch , dinner there is fresh veggies

cut up already to go, no cooking , no prep ready to go. When you do

cook, cook some extra that you can freeze.. that way when you have a

day, hubby can just defrost things for you..and learn to read labels..

Whether you are hypo or hyper diet plays a very important role in the

healing process, JMO but chemicals added to food is the main reason

thyroid disorders and othe autoimmune disorders on on a rise.. most

people feel the healthiest going back to the way grandma use to cook,

real butter, real milk.. real food..dinner was never meant to come in

a box or a can..

It is hard, especially with such a busy schedule, not enough hours in

the day, and not enough sleep when you are feeling rough and burnt out.

When you are hyper or subclinical hyper your body uses a lot more

food, the digestive track moves quicker so you absorb less nutrients

from your food, and your body is needing more nutrients.. your food

cravings have to do with the gylcemic index..they are all foods that

your body needs to make sugar so it can get energy from the food..

Your prenatal is helping you right now...but you need to add protien

to almost every meal as that is why you have sore muscles and what

causes muscle wasting..eating more often and not skipping meals should

help balance out the gylcemic index.

But you need to find a way to get this all to work for you.. and hubby

needs to help.. obviously with a knee injury standing for cooking is

hard not to mention being a male injured domestic duties may be

beneath him, hurts the pride.. but you both need to find something

together so you both eat more healthy..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

My hubby is on me constantly about eating better.

Mostly, I hate cooking. He is home on medical leave right now. He is a

cop, injured in the line of duty (knee) and he sits all day and expects

me to make dinner cause he can't stand long enough to do it. After all

the cleaning, and the working, and the kiddo - a bowl of cereal works

for me.

I know where you are coming from..I have three boys and work and they

are all in sports etc. so it is run here , run there, do this do

that..and get them fed in 20 mins and out the door.. a slow cooker

really helped out for this..

You do really want to try and avoid processed food as much as possible

though..

When I was new to this I had everyone tell me too main things..Armour

would cure all..and add iodine, the more iodine the better..

The Armour question was easy..with T4 and T3 at the very top end of

the normal range I was not about to add more T4 and T3 to push it

over..for some reason I could not understand the logic in that.

The iodine question was a little harder..there is just as much info

for Iodine as ther is for..the WHO( wolrd health organization) who is

responsible for the Iodine hooplah has a lot of articles and a lot of

info if you wish on regulating ionization in iodine defficient areas

and problems they have had with too much iodine..that and I am very

chemically sensitive I decided to iliminate it first.. after about two

weeks on a no iodine diet I accidently ingested a lot of iodine (

eating out) ..I really did not feel much of a difference to this point

as I kind of swing in and out of hyper as it is..

I had such a bad reaction that I had two people who I did not even

know tell me I had grave's disease..you could see my pulse across the

table from my neck..I still have a bad reaction to iodine if I take in

too much but do realize in a bowl of cereal you are getting your full

daily amount so anything above that is extra iodine to stimulate your

thyroid.. the thyroid needs iodine to make thyroid hormone..

You really do need to get hubby on your side though..he needs to

understand what is going on and how he can help..

Things that would work is a stool he could sit on in the kitchen so he

is off his knee..

Other things that have worked for me..a slow cooker..throw the meat in

in the morning and when you get home dinner is ready.. my boys love

rice so I have a rice cooker and when we get home I throw on the rice,

takes about 20 mins and no watching it cook. Today is my day off so we

are going to the produce market and I will grab fresh fruit and

veggies for the week, cut them up and store them in the fridge.. this

way when I need a snack or for lunch , dinner there is fresh veggies

cut up already to go, no cooking , no prep ready to go. When you do

cook, cook some extra that you can freeze.. that way when you have a

day, hubby can just defrost things for you..and learn to read labels..

Whether you are hypo or hyper diet plays a very important role in the

healing process, JMO but chemicals added to food is the main reason

thyroid disorders and othe autoimmune disorders on on a rise.. most

people feel the healthiest going back to the way grandma use to cook,

real butter, real milk.. real food..dinner was never meant to come in

a box or a can..

It is hard, especially with such a busy schedule, not enough hours in

the day, and not enough sleep when you are feeling rough and burnt out.

When you are hyper or subclinical hyper your body uses a lot more

food, the digestive track moves quicker so you absorb less nutrients

from your food, and your body is needing more nutrients.. your food

cravings have to do with the gylcemic index..they are all foods that

your body needs to make sugar so it can get energy from the food..

Your prenatal is helping you right now...but you need to add protien

to almost every meal as that is why you have sore muscles and what

causes muscle wasting..eating more often and not skipping meals should

help balance out the gylcemic index.

But you need to find a way to get this all to work for you.. and hubby

needs to help.. obviously with a knee injury standing for cooking is

hard not to mention being a male injured domestic duties may be

beneath him, hurts the pride.. but you both need to find something

together so you both eat more healthy..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Kat

Man are we sisters at heart or what??

I NEVER thought about the cereal and Iodine....

I literally eat it for every meal.

I do a slow cooker too---make a killer pot roast.

Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I should

talk to the doc about?

I know my T4 are elevated.

But what does it mean if my T3 is elavated or low?

You wrote****

hard not to mention being a male injured domestic duties may be

beneath him, hurts the pride..***

I think you hit the nail on the head here....OMG....we won't even get

into that.

Re: new to this....[scanned]

My hubby is on me constantly about eating better.

Mostly, I hate cooking. He is home on medical leave right now. He is a

cop, injured in the line of duty (knee) and he sits all day and expects

me to make dinner cause he can't stand long enough to do it. After all

the cleaning, and the working, and the kiddo - a bowl of cereal works

for me.

I know where you are coming from..I have three boys and work and they

are all in sports etc. so it is run here , run there, do this do

that..and get them fed in 20 mins and out the door.. a slow cooker

really helped out for this..

You do really want to try and avoid processed food as much as possible

though..

When I was new to this I had everyone tell me too main things..Armour

would cure all..and add iodine, the more iodine the better..

The Armour question was easy..with T4 and T3 at the very top end of

the normal range I was not about to add more T4 and T3 to push it

over..for some reason I could not understand the logic in that.

The iodine question was a little harder..there is just as much info

for Iodine as ther is for..the WHO( wolrd health organization) who is

responsible for the Iodine hooplah has a lot of articles and a lot of

info if you wish on regulating ionization in iodine defficient areas

and problems they have had with too much iodine..that and I am very

chemically sensitive I decided to iliminate it first.. after about two

weeks on a no iodine diet I accidently ingested a lot of iodine (

eating out) ..I really did not feel much of a difference to this point

as I kind of swing in and out of hyper as it is..

I had such a bad reaction that I had two people who I did not even

know tell me I had grave's disease..you could see my pulse across the

table from my neck..I still have a bad reaction to iodine if I take in

too much but do realize in a bowl of cereal you are getting your full

daily amount so anything above that is extra iodine to stimulate your

thyroid.. the thyroid needs iodine to make thyroid hormone..

You really do need to get hubby on your side though..he needs to

understand what is going on and how he can help..

Things that would work is a stool he could sit on in the kitchen so he

is off his knee..

Other things that have worked for me..a slow cooker..throw the meat in

in the morning and when you get home dinner is ready.. my boys love

rice so I have a rice cooker and when we get home I throw on the rice,

takes about 20 mins and no watching it cook. Today is my day off so we

are going to the produce market and I will grab fresh fruit and

veggies for the week, cut them up and store them in the fridge.. this

way when I need a snack or for lunch , dinner there is fresh veggies

cut up already to go, no cooking , no prep ready to go. When you do

cook, cook some extra that you can freeze.. that way when you have a

day, hubby can just defrost things for you..and learn to read labels..

Whether you are hypo or hyper diet plays a very important role in the

healing process, JMO but chemicals added to food is the main reason

thyroid disorders and othe autoimmune disorders on on a rise.. most

people feel the healthiest going back to the way grandma use to cook,

real butter, real milk.. real food..dinner was never meant to come in

a box or a can..

It is hard, especially with such a busy schedule, not enough hours in

the day, and not enough sleep when you are feeling rough and burnt out.

When you are hyper or subclinical hyper your body uses a lot more

food, the digestive track moves quicker so you absorb less nutrients

from your food, and your body is needing more nutrients.. your food

cravings have to do with the gylcemic index..they are all foods that

your body needs to make sugar so it can get energy from the food..

Your prenatal is helping you right now...but you need to add protien

to almost every meal as that is why you have sore muscles and what

causes muscle wasting..eating more often and not skipping meals should

help balance out the gylcemic index.

But you need to find a way to get this all to work for you.. and hubby

needs to help.. obviously with a knee injury standing for cooking is

hard not to mention being a male injured domestic duties may be

beneath him, hurts the pride.. but you both need to find something

together so you both eat more healthy..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Hi Kats,

I am really surprised that all those other boards told you to take Armour when you felt HYPER — the T3 really does rev you up...

Plus, I thought there was a different set of meds for folks who had hyper symptoms... No?

I dunno!

Sue

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Hi Kats,

I am really surprised that all those other boards told you to take Armour when you felt HYPER — the T3 really does rev you up...

Plus, I thought there was a different set of meds for folks who had hyper symptoms... No?

I dunno!

Sue

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Hi Kats,

I am really surprised that all those other boards told you to take Armour when you felt HYPER — the T3 really does rev you up...

Plus, I thought there was a different set of meds for folks who had hyper symptoms... No?

I dunno!

Sue

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Kat,

I am so glad I found this site....

I will discuss antibodies with doc....seems the right way to go.

If I am constantly hyper...what can be done? I can't go on like this!

The headaches are running my life, and people are confusing me for the

wicked witch of the west.

Re: new to this....[scanned]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Kat,

I am so glad I found this site....

I will discuss antibodies with doc....seems the right way to go.

If I am constantly hyper...what can be done? I can't go on like this!

The headaches are running my life, and people are confusing me for the

wicked witch of the west.

Re: new to this....[scanned]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Kat,

I am so glad I found this site....

I will discuss antibodies with doc....seems the right way to go.

If I am constantly hyper...what can be done? I can't go on like this!

The headaches are running my life, and people are confusing me for the

wicked witch of the west.

Re: new to this....[scanned]

> Can you tell me Armour is for? Would that be something that I

should

> talk to the doc about?

Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3 combination thyroid

replacement hormone.. works great if you are hypo for most people

because it has the added T3. For someone with no or little thyroid

function T3 usually makes the difference between normal labs and

feeling normal.

My remark was just a comment I made because of a few boards I went

to searching to why I was hyper, and take Armour was the only

response I would ever get..if you are hyper any type of thyroid

replacement hormone is the last thing you need..

Right now you need to find out why before you can really decide on

any type of threatment..Hashimoto's can cause hyper swings too..but

you would want to add an increase of Synthroid to suppress the TSH

and rest the thyroid..

If you have Grave's then you would want to add ATD's ( antithyroid

drugs) to block hormone production from the thyroid..antibodies in

Hashimoto's cause thyroid destruction.

Using ATD's with Hashimoto's would land you hypo big time and would

increase antibodies by the body trying to get the thyroid to produce

more ( TSH) ..

Using Synthroid while you have Grave's would be like adding fuel to

the fire as TSH does not stimulate the thyroid gland but the

antibodies stimulate the thyroid, no regulation or feed back system

to control..

You also may have both antibodies in which the treatment plan

becomes a bit more complicated depending on if you are hypo or hyper

at the time..

You really need to make sure the doctor runs antibody testing on

you, and also that the T4 and T3 are tested in the free form..

Your T4 range of 5-12 sounds like a total so it is effected by your

hormone levels and other things...excessive iodine can also lead to

an increase in antibodies which in Hashimotos leads to a temporary

hyper phase as the thyroid releases hormones during the antibody

attack...

Hope this makes sense..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

>

> Kat,

> I am so glad I found this site....

> I will discuss antibodies with doc....seems the right way to go.

>

> If I am constantly hyper...what can be done? I can't go on like this!

> The headaches are running my life, and people are confusing me for

the

> wicked witch of the west.

>

>

Get the antibodies as soon as possible..what to do, avoid the iodine

or any other tihng you find may trigger you, stress, and listen to

your body.. I feel leary to tell you what step to take next until you

know why..

I did find for me, knowing that my thyroid was causing me to go off on

people allowed me to bite my tongue more often..rest if you need

rest.. eat if you need to eat and find uot why as soon as possible..

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

>

> Kat,

> I am so glad I found this site....

> I will discuss antibodies with doc....seems the right way to go.

>

> If I am constantly hyper...what can be done? I can't go on like this!

> The headaches are running my life, and people are confusing me for

the

> wicked witch of the west.

>

>

Get the antibodies as soon as possible..what to do, avoid the iodine

or any other tihng you find may trigger you, stress, and listen to

your body.. I feel leary to tell you what step to take next until you

know why..

I did find for me, knowing that my thyroid was causing me to go off on

people allowed me to bite my tongue more often..rest if you need

rest.. eat if you need to eat and find uot why as soon as possible..

Kats3boys