Re: *Losing weight -Atkins

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on 12/9/04 7:32 PM, kaoscattery at kguynn@... wrote:

> Kate,

> I tried it for 4 months......really wanted it to work...it sounds so good in

> the book and I desperately wanted to lose weight too.

> I DID drop about 10 pounds over that time, but would get so sick sometimes I

> thought they might have to call an ambluance.

>

> High protein - low carb perhaps, but the thing about getting the body to go

> into ketosis I think is the problem, at least for me, and I think perhaps a

> few others. It might especially be a problem for people with

> metabolic/endocrine disorders.

>

> I think some of us need to just shoot for 70-80 grams a day....that is still

> pretty low carb but not enough to throw one into ketosis or hypoglycemia.

>

> Not trying to make you wrong, (I am ALWAYS glad when somebody finds something

> that works for them!) butI AM interested in what happens and why some people

> can not handle it, myself included.

>

> QUESTION: DO you understand the thing about ketosis? Ketosis acidosis is a

> potentially life threatening situaton, so I would like to understand why it is

> good to go into ketosis. Do you understand that part? I have read it

particularly happens to diabetics......

>

> With my respect as well....

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> Dr Atkins says the first week to two weeks can be hard. Sometime you

> have to go through a little discomfort to reprogram you body. I don't

> know about adrenal problems, but I have read in several places that

> hypo's need high protein and low carb. I respect your two bits!

>

> Kate

>

>

>

>> I get VERY sick on Atkins. The first few days are okay, but after

> the body

>> goes into ketosis, I am dying half the time.

>> I know it works for most people...just my two bits. Interesting to hear

>> another person mention the same.

>>

>> I read last night that people with adrenal problems not only do not

> tolerate

>> fasting, but their body is NOT ABLE TO CONVERT PROTEINS INTO SUGAR

> ANYMORE.

>> Just my two bits....

>>

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on 12/9/04 7:32 PM, kaoscattery at kguynn@... wrote:

> Kate,

> I tried it for 4 months......really wanted it to work...it sounds so good in

> the book and I desperately wanted to lose weight too.

> I DID drop about 10 pounds over that time, but would get so sick sometimes I

> thought they might have to call an ambluance.

>

> High protein - low carb perhaps, but the thing about getting the body to go

> into ketosis I think is the problem, at least for me, and I think perhaps a

> few others. It might especially be a problem for people with

> metabolic/endocrine disorders.

>

> I think some of us need to just shoot for 70-80 grams a day....that is still

> pretty low carb but not enough to throw one into ketosis or hypoglycemia.

>

> Not trying to make you wrong, (I am ALWAYS glad when somebody finds something

> that works for them!) butI AM interested in what happens and why some people

> can not handle it, myself included.

>

> QUESTION: DO you understand the thing about ketosis? Ketosis acidosis is a

> potentially life threatening situaton, so I would like to understand why it is

> good to go into ketosis. Do you understand that part? I have read it

particularly happens to diabetics......

>

> With my respect as well....

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> Dr Atkins says the first week to two weeks can be hard. Sometime you

> have to go through a little discomfort to reprogram you body. I don't

> know about adrenal problems, but I have read in several places that

> hypo's need high protein and low carb. I respect your two bits!

>

> Kate

>

>

>

>> I get VERY sick on Atkins. The first few days are okay, but after

> the body

>> goes into ketosis, I am dying half the time.

>> I know it works for most people...just my two bits. Interesting to hear

>> another person mention the same.

>>

>> I read last night that people with adrenal problems not only do not

> tolerate

>> fasting, but their body is NOT ABLE TO CONVERT PROTEINS INTO SUGAR

> ANYMORE.

>> Just my two bits....

>>

[Guest guest]

on 12/9/04 7:32 PM, kaoscattery at kguynn@... wrote:

> Kate,

> I tried it for 4 months......really wanted it to work...it sounds so good in

> the book and I desperately wanted to lose weight too.

> I DID drop about 10 pounds over that time, but would get so sick sometimes I

> thought they might have to call an ambluance.

>

> High protein - low carb perhaps, but the thing about getting the body to go

> into ketosis I think is the problem, at least for me, and I think perhaps a

> few others. It might especially be a problem for people with

> metabolic/endocrine disorders.

>

> I think some of us need to just shoot for 70-80 grams a day....that is still

> pretty low carb but not enough to throw one into ketosis or hypoglycemia.

>

> Not trying to make you wrong, (I am ALWAYS glad when somebody finds something

> that works for them!) butI AM interested in what happens and why some people

> can not handle it, myself included.

>

> QUESTION: DO you understand the thing about ketosis? Ketosis acidosis is a

> potentially life threatening situaton, so I would like to understand why it is

> good to go into ketosis. Do you understand that part? I have read it

particularly happens to diabetics......

>

> With my respect as well....

> ~Inga

>

>

>

>

> Dr Atkins says the first week to two weeks can be hard. Sometime you

> have to go through a little discomfort to reprogram you body. I don't

> know about adrenal problems, but I have read in several places that

> hypo's need high protein and low carb. I respect your two bits!

>

> Kate

>

>

>

>> I get VERY sick on Atkins. The first few days are okay, but after

> the body

>> goes into ketosis, I am dying half the time.

>> I know it works for most people...just my two bits. Interesting to hear

>> another person mention the same.

>>

>> I read last night that people with adrenal problems not only do not

> tolerate

>> fasting, but their body is NOT ABLE TO CONVERT PROTEINS INTO SUGAR

> ANYMORE.

>> Just my two bits....

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joy,

I'm A+. I've never read that book....my mother did several years ago.

When I finally went on Atkins I had slowly lost weight over the past

5.5 years. I went from 235 to 198, in two years. Some of the changes

that I had made to start with, coke to diet coke. Stairs at work. At

I did a light work out 10-15 minutes at lunch a few day a week. I

hovered there for probably another 2 years. Then when I started

working out and traing for the Breast Cancer 3 Day I went down to 170.

That's when I started Atkins. I'm down to 152 as of this morning.

Most of my fat is around the belly. I haven't worked out in 2.5

weeks. But I'm out at the park with my son and a girl that I watch

3-4 days a week. I park far out in the parking lot. I move my Armour

to split up in the am and early afternoon to see if that helps. I'm

working on adding more iron suppliment and B12 into my day. My oldest

sister(not the Hashi's one) was a vegetarian for 10 years. When she

got together with her husband he isn't she slowly ditched the

vegertarian diet and says she feel much better. She has never had an

ounce of fat on her! She is the one we are all jelous of!

Kate

> I think your blood type might be a good indicator as to whether or

not you should use the Atkins diet, or at least on how to modify it

for your needs. I'm a type O. That's perfect for the Atkins diet.

Type O's need lots of meat, particularly beef. When I've tried to go

strictly vegetarian, I get very ill. One of the other blood types is

better off as a vegetarian and when they try to do Atkins, they get

very ill because they eat high levels of meat. So, those in the types

that should be more vegetarian might want to look at nuts and other

alternatives to meat proteins if they want to do the Atkins diet.

>

> There's a series of books out there called " Eat Right For Your Blood

Type " that explains it all.

>

> By the way, I love the Atkins diet! I've lost 45 pounds with it so

far. I'm in a bad stall right now, which happens occasionally. I

lose 30 pounds, then go back up a bit, then lose 30 more. Last time I

went back up 10, this time just 3 so far. Holiday time really sucks

for sugary stuff being around the office! :-)

>

> Joy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>>Everything I've read says low amounts of soy is ok for

HypoT, just not very much. <<

Be very careful with soy! I can feel the difference the next day after using

soy sauce on Chinese food! I tested it out once and ate it the night before

going for blood work (TSH only) and my TSH was up alot form the last test on

same meds. Of course I like ALOT of soy sauce on my Chinese foods! LOL

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Hurricane, West Virginia

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Well then, taking a little soy lecithin everyday to keep the cholesterol level

even & balanced & to keep the triglycerides count down would be okay too then I

would suppose.

Caroline

From: kaoscattery

>> Everything I've read says low amounts of soy is ok for HypoT, just not very

much.<<< Kate

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Val,

Try using Bragg's Aminos instead of soy sauce. It tastes exactly the same but

hasn't got a drop of soy in it. It's all protein..amino acids. I get mine at my

health food store cuz I love chinese food too & stir fries I make myself. I also

put it in veggie soups I make nearly everyday in my crock pot.

Caroline

From:

Be very careful with soy! I can feel the difference the next day after using

soy sauce on Chinese food! I tested it out once and ate it the night before

going for blood work (TSH only) and my TSH was up alot form the last test on

same meds. Of course I like ALOT of soy sauce on my Chinese foods! LOL

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I sure would htink so.

I thik the problem with soy is also the pollutants in the processing.

As far as I know the lecethin is totally good for you.

As far as I know.....things as close to their natural form as possible.

~inga

>

> Well then, taking a little soy lecithin everyday to keep the cholesterol level

> even & balanced & to keep the triglycerides count down would be okay too then

> I would suppose.

> Caroline

>

> From: kaoscattery

>

>>> Everything I've read says low amounts of soy is ok for HypoT, just not very

>>> much.<<< Kate

>

>