RE: Weight Loss

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Aacchh, Gloria, you are shrinking away! Try eating chips with

guacamole. I think guac's are good for you. ----Jan

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Date sent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:20:56 -0500

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Hey , if you have PLS you shouldn't have to have a feeding tube. I'm

on antidepressants also.

Sorry Bart, but I must take exception to your statement. PLS people

certainly could and do need a feeding tube.

Doctors are always concerned with weight loss in PLSers (or anyone

for that matter). Loss can point to a number of problems. As an

example, to which I am extremely close, a PLSer having problems

swallowing naturally would have problems eating, but more

importantly, would have trouble maintaining hydration. Dehydration

is very serious to everyone. The body needs water to work properly.

Problems with liver, kidneys, blood, heart, bowels, energy levels and

even appetite often can be traced back to dehydration.

Dysarthria, the technical name for problems speaking and swallowing,

is very pronounced in my spouse Bettie Jo. We discussed the need for

installation of a stomach tube to help combat dehydration early in

2004 and planned to have it installed in mid April. However, during

February and March she began having pain in the lower abdomen. We

even missed Spring Fling that year because we did not feel that she

could make the 14 hour round trip by car. Ultimately it was

discovered that she had a large kidney stone which finally required

laser surgery and piece by piece removal of the remains of the stone.

We were sure that Her inability to drink enough fluids to keep her

kidneys flushed contributed to the stone problem.

We scheduled the tube inplacement as soon as Bettie Jo recovered from

the stone procedure, which was a few weeks as a stint was required

for a while to allow the swelling to reduce. The tub was installed

in late May. Now water (and some meds) can be delivered directly

into the stomach by way of the tube. Bettie Jo still talkes all

nourishment by mouth, but the vast majority of fluids by tube. Her

appetite has improved and we have been able to hold her within one

pound for about a hear and a half. Now she does not have to exhaust

herself tying to drink enough liquids and often getting choked or

aspirating some of that fluid.

The tube has been in for well over a year and we have had no problems

with discomfort or infection. The only down side is that she cannot

lie on her stomach. She takes 16 ounces of water before breakfast,

and another 16 onces before dinner (super for those in West

Virginia). She has juice and iced tea to sip on during the day to

provide moisture to her mouth. We are presently working on a system

to increase the water intake with a mid-day addition with the help of

friends. We have a goal of 48 ounces of liquid per day.

We would encourage any PLSer that is having problems with

dehydration. It will make a world of difference.

Don

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Sorry Don, It goes to show how much doctors know.

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Hey , if you have PLS you shouldn't have to have a feeding tube. I'm

on antidepressants also.

Sorry Bart, but I must take exception to your statement. PLS people

certainly could and do need a feeding tube.

Doctors are always concerned with weight loss in PLSers (or anyone

for that matter). Loss can point to a number of problems. As an

example, to which I am extremely close, a PLSer having problems

swallowing naturally would have problems eating, but more

importantly, would have trouble maintaining hydration. Dehydration

is very serious to everyone. The body needs water to work properly.

Problems with liver, kidneys, blood, heart, bowels, energy levels and

even appetite often can be traced back to dehydration.

Dysarthria, the technical name for problems speaking and swallowing,

is very pronounced in my spouse Bettie Jo. We discussed the need for

installation of a stomach tube to help combat dehydration early in

2004 and planned to have it installed in mid April. However, during

February and March she began having pain in the lower abdomen. We

even missed Spring Fling that year because we did not feel that she

could make the 14 hour round trip by car. Ultimately it was

discovered that she had a large kidney stone which finally required

laser surgery and piece by piece removal of the remains of the stone.

We were sure that Her inability to drink enough fluids to keep her

kidneys flushed contributed to the stone problem.

We scheduled the tube inplacement as soon as Bettie Jo recovered from

the stone procedure, which was a few weeks as a stint was required

for a while to allow the swelling to reduce. The tub was installed

in late May. Now water (and some meds) can be delivered directly

into the stomach by way of the tube. Bettie Jo still talkes all

nourishment by mouth, but the vast majority of fluids by tube. Her

appetite has improved and we have been able to hold her within one

pound for about a hear and a half. Now she does not have to exhaust

herself tying to drink enough liquids and often getting choked or

aspirating some of that fluid.

The tube has been in for well over a year and we have had no problems

with discomfort or infection. The only down side is that she cannot

lie on her stomach. She takes 16 ounces of water before breakfast,

and another 16 onces before dinner (super for those in West

Virginia). She has juice and iced tea to sip on during the day to

provide moisture to her mouth. We are presently working on a system

to increase the water intake with a mid-day addition with the help of

friends. We have a goal of 48 ounces of liquid per day.

We would encourage any PLSer that is having problems with

dehydration. It will make a world of difference.

Don

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There are many things that can spur us to take things seriously. I am sorry

your loss was what has done it for you. My heart goes out to you. I admire

you because it takes tremendous effort and resiliance to rise above

circumstances and take positive steps for yourself. Its not at all a selfish

thing...but its the best thing you could do for yourself and those you love!

Its the RIGHT thing!

Again I applaud you...

As you experience sucess I hope that as in my case I eventually discovered...

I stayed with the program not out of fear but because it was RIGHT...and the

benefits of taking care of myself far outweigh the alternatives!

Sending you HUGE pats on the back!

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Hello Everyone,

> I was wondering if anyone had any information they would like to

share

> about their issue with weight loss. I just started my thyroid meds

> about 2 months ago, I have been on a diet for a month and a half and

> have lost one pound in that time, it's like it is almost impossible

to

> lose it.

I am sure others will post on diet issues for you..

A lot of it goes back to how long you have been undiagnosed and

untreated and how hypo you are..and if you are on optimal replacement

dose yet..

Although patience is not the easiest thing, it took your body longer

than two months to get in this shape, it is going to take it longer

than two months to get it back..

Right now concentrate on getting at optimal dose, eating healthy and

getting the nutrients your body needs.

The wieght issue is not going to disappear over night, but being at

the optimal dose you need to be at and being healthy will allow yo uto

start working on it..

Kats3boys

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>

> Hello Everyone,

> > I was wondering if anyone had any information they would like to

> share

> > about their issue with weight loss. I just started my thyroid

meds

> > about 2 months ago, I have been on a diet for a month and a half

and

> > have lost one pound in that time, it's like it is almost

impossible

> to

> > lose it.

>

> I am sure others will post on diet issues for you..

> A lot of it goes back to how long you have been undiagnosed and

> untreated and how hypo you are..and if you are on optimal

replacement

> dose yet..

> Although patience is not the easiest thing, it took your body

longer

> than two months to get in this shape, it is going to take it

longer

> than two months to get it back..

> Right now concentrate on getting at optimal dose, eating healthy

and

> getting the nutrients your body needs.

> The wieght issue is not going to disappear over night, but being

at

> the optimal dose you need to be at and being healthy will allow yo

uto

> start working on it..

>

> Kats3boys

>

Hello there! I just found this website and came accross your post.

I've been on synthroid for 10 years. There is so much I would like

to talk with others about this disorder. Until now, I haven't given

it much thought other then this is just what I will have to deal

with for the rest of my life. My conditions have been getting worse

through and they keep increasing my dosage. I would appreciate

anyone's comments or help on the matter.

To address your issue Kat, I am also trying to lose weight. I have

lost weight in the past, but it is definately a difficult and

frustrating battle. I find that working out is vital for my

success. I know that working out can be painful for me, so I would

encourage you to take it slowly. The trick for me is trying not to

push it too hard, or I'll end up layed out for a few weeks or

months. I don't know if there is some particular food type that my

body works better with. I tend to try for low fat, high protein and

fiber.

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Well these are not encouraging posts! I just started my synthroid this week and was hoping it would make a difference sooner than that!! I have an average "net" (intake - exercise) daily intake of about 1600 cal/day for at least a year, I do 5 hours per week cardio on average, and haven't lost a single pound. I was hoping I could start seeing progress once the synthroid starts working!

So I've been wondering also if there are special tips for hypo women to help with weight loss, I really don't want to hear that it is futile I'm "only" 20 lbs over my pre-twins weight (but I'd like to lose 30) but it's all I can do to maintain that!!!

Mikki

Re: Weight Loss

I've been on Synthroid for about 3 months with a weight loss of about 3 lbs, but that's it. I will be having my T3 tested, and will add that if needed. I'll see if that helps with weight loss.

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Mikki,

It sounds like your adrenal glands are out of whack. I would suggest getting your Cortisol levels checked — it’s a saliva test that is taken throughout the day into the night.. You just spit into a tube.

Anyway, I did it a few months back and my Cortisol runs high all day and it should not—has to do with stress; the high cortisol causes weight gain and any additional stress such as high intensity workouts just add to that stress thus more weight gain...

That said, I took a break for two months from cardio, added T3 to my T4, do Yoga and cut back my work hours and my stressors... I lost about 4 pounds in two months and am now adding back in cardio and hope to see faster results.

With thyroid disease, being hypo often results in weight gain — but added stress and high cortisol counteract anything you do and just make it worse ---

5 hours a week with 1600 calories and you should be losing for sure — you may be putting your body in a state of “alarm” so it’s storing fat to “protect” you — get your adrenals checked if you can afford it...there’s a site online that does Cortisol, DHEA, Testosterone, TSH, T3F and T4F all for bout $140 at Canaryclub.org and there’s a link for home lab tests...

sue

Well these are not encouraging posts! I just started my synthroid this week and was hoping it would make a difference sooner than that!! I have an average " net " (intake - exercise) daily intake of about 1600 cal/day for at least a year, I do 5 hours per week cardio on average, and haven't lost a single pound. I was hoping I could start seeing progress once the synthroid starts working!

So I've been wondering also if there are special tips for hypo women to help with weight loss, I really don't want to hear that it is futile I'm " only " 20 lbs over my pre-twins weight (but I'd like to lose 30) but it's all I can do to maintain that!!!

Mikki

Re: Weight Loss

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Thanks Sue I'll check out the link tonight ... I did one of those "online quizzes" and had almost all the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, but I hadn't followed up yet because my doc called and started me on the synthroid.

I should clarify, I normally eat 1800-2000 cal/day but subtracted out the amount I burn through exercise. It still "should" be enough to lose slowly but steadily, that was part of why I finally badgered someone into doing a TSH test!

thanks again!

MIkki

Re: Weight Loss

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Hi ya E--

I eat my mini meals throughout the day — love it!

As far as carbs — I eat plenty of carbs, just not the high-glycemic ones that are weight gainers.

Happy eating!

Sue

Sue/Robin:

There are those who will tell you that low-carb is deadly-dangerous. Poor doctor Atkins had lots of naysayers until the last years of his life.

I suppose...low-carb might be to someone...but I've yet to hear on the news or anywhere else any of those millions of people who get good results from low-carb dieting.

There are a number of Doctor-Authors who treat thryoid....and say very clearly that weight loss is greatly inhibited by hypothryoidism and that once treated to optimal, a diet with a low glycemic index would be best to address those extra pounds.

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I always try to use a small plate and load up on veggies. That seems to work for me pretty well. Then, instead of going back for seconds after the plate is empty ( hard habit to break depending on what I'm eating......lol ) I make myself sit for about half an hour and see if I'm really still hungry or if it's just really good tasting and I'm becoming a little pig about it. I have a hard time with stew, I can eat bowl after bowl. Spiffmaurpratt@... wrote: Hi, again! The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one. It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight. Maureen Pratt

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I always try to use a small plate and load up on veggies. That seems to work for me pretty well. Then, instead of going back for seconds after the plate is empty ( hard habit to break depending on what I'm eating......lol ) I make myself sit for about half an hour and see if I'm really still hungry or if it's just really good tasting and I'm becoming a little pig about it. I have a hard time with stew, I can eat bowl after bowl. Spiffmaurpratt@... wrote: Hi, again! The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one. It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight. Maureen Pratt

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I always try to use a small plate and load up on veggies. That seems to work for me pretty well. Then, instead of going back for seconds after the plate is empty ( hard habit to break depending on what I'm eating......lol ) I make myself sit for about half an hour and see if I'm really still hungry or if it's just really good tasting and I'm becoming a little pig about it. I have a hard time with stew, I can eat bowl after bowl. Spiffmaurpratt@... wrote: Hi, again! The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one. It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight. Maureen Pratt

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I was one of the lucky ones. I went on Armour and 10 kilos just melted off me in 3 months. Prior to that I had lost 8 kilos in NINE YEARS..............Meleese in Oz xxx

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Hi, again!

The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one.

It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight.

Maureen Pratt

[Guest guest]

I was one of the lucky ones. I went on Armour and 10 kilos just melted off me in 3 months. Prior to that I had lost 8 kilos in NINE YEARS..............Meleese in Oz xxx

-------Original Message-------

From: maurpratt@...

Hi, again!

The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one.

It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight.

Maureen Pratt

[Guest guest]

I was one of the lucky ones. I went on Armour and 10 kilos just melted off me in 3 months. Prior to that I had lost 8 kilos in NINE YEARS..............Meleese in Oz xxx

-------Original Message-------

From: maurpratt@...

Hi, again!

The weight loss thread is interesting. To the importance of proper/balanced diet and exercise (so very important, exercise)! I'd add the need for portion control. We often don't realize how big the portions we eat are -- in restaurants, especially, but at home, too. Think of the size of our dinner plates, cereal bowls, glasses...if we filled them up, we'd be eating two or sometimes three portions instead of one.

It can be hard to adjust to smaller portions, but I think this is one element that gets overlooked, but over which we have complete control when it comes to managing our weight.

Maureen Pratt

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Everybody loses at diffrent rates. The weight will come off!! I'm

also so so proud of you fessing up about the cupcake, it is so hard

to stay away from that crap BUT I know you can do this. Hang in there

eat the foods you should go out for walks (or just move your body in

some way) the weight will come off!!! Our bodies stop and re

adjust to our weight loss through this journey. I had 2 or 3 times

were I stopped losing weight for 3 to 4 week time periods. I freeked

to, it WILL come off!!!!

Hugs!!!!!

>

> I had my surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and am getting

depressed. I was given this list of how much weight I was suppossed

to lose by when, and at first it went fine. I went in for my 10 day

check up and was right on track. Then, yesterday, I weighed myself in

prep for my 4 week nutritionist check up and discovered, to my

horror, I have not lost another bloody pound. I am female and started

out at a little over 300. I am doing what I am supossed to, my

greatest sin was taking a bit of a cupcake I made for my daughter's

birthday before I remembered I couldn't have sugar. I am at a loss to

know what to do and am frankly depressed. I am worried about telling

the nutritionist because don't deal well with being fussed at,

especially when I don't know what I have done wrong. Has anybody else

had a similar situation. I mean, I am at the beginning of my surgery,

I am supossed to be losing a poun d or more a day. If anyone can

help, please do.

> Donna

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My surgeon's office said I'd be losing ½ to 1 pound a day ON AVERAGE

for the first few months. More than one a day sounds a little much.

" to my horror, I have not lost another bloody pound " WHOA relax a

bit. If you're doing/eating everything you're told and exercising and

stuff the weight will come off. Sometimes you'll stall/plateau and

sometimes you'll lose a lot in a very short period. You're body is

adjusting and everyone adjusts/loses at different rates.

I don't think I'd sweat a single " bit " of a cup cake if you only had

some once. Maybe you could be concerned about not remembering that

you couldn't indulge in sugary things especially at this early stage

though. How about looking at this as a learning experience. It sounds

like you are concerned about it and have/will learned to not do it

again.

What makes you think you're going to be fussed at by the

nutritionist? You are following the doctor's/their instructions as

far as what to eat right (other than the tiny bit of cupcake)?

Stress can cause you to want to eat more and, itself, gain weight.

Relax a little and you'll do better. Feel good about yourself and

enjoy your new energy as it returns. Start developing some healthy

habits to keep your mind busy instead of sweating this diet/weight

numbers/loss stuff.

Mike in GR

>

> I had my surgery a little over 3 weeks ago and am getting

depressed. I was given this list of how much weight I was suppossed

to lose by when, and at first it went fine. I went in for my 10 day

check up and was right on track. Then, yesterday, I weighed myself in

prep for my 4 week nutritionist check up and discovered, to my

horror, I have not lost another bloody pound. I am female and started

out at a little over 300. I am doing what I am supossed to, my

greatest sin was taking a bit of a cupcake I made for my daughter's

birthday before I remembered I couldn't have sugar. I am at a loss to

know what to do and am frankly depressed. I am worried about telling

the nutritionist because don't deal well with being fussed at,

especially when I don't know what I have done wrong. Has anybody else

had a similar situation. I mean, I am at the beginning of my surgery,

I am supossed to be losing a poun d or more a day. If anyone can

help, please do.

> Donna

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