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In a message dated 8/29/05 6:16:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnetwork@...

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> Regarding the subject head of this post, I prefer my pizza with extra

> cheese. You can leave the afib off. :)

Are we going to have polls on the postings now? That'll make so many

frivolous e-mails.

Toni

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In a message dated 8/29/05 6:16:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnetwork@...

writes:

> Regarding the subject head of this post, I prefer my pizza with extra

> cheese. You can leave the afib off. :)

Are we going to have polls on the postings now? That'll make so many

frivolous e-mails.

Toni

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It couldn't be the bottle of Chianti you have with it could it?

cnetwork@... wrote:Regarding the subject head of this post, I prefer my

pizza with extra

cheese. You can leave the afib off. :)

Lil

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In a message dated 8/30/05 12:40:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

somniacismyname@... writes:

> It couldn't be the bottle of Chianti you have with it could it?

>

> cnetwork@... wrote:Regarding the subject head of this post, I prefer my

> pizza with extra

> cheese. You can leave the afib off. :)

Hey all, I thought these were the kinds of " chatty " e-mails we were going to

do privately. I have 56 e-mails this a.m. and these really are a nuisance.

Could you do them privately instead of being cutesy on the list? Thanks.

Toni

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Possibly a pizza leads to a general gastric discomfort which leads to

vagal AF (see my site, below). Also pizza is wheat and many people are

wheat intolerant without being aware (I was), which then leads to same

as my first sentence. Cheese is fatty and difficult to digest which can

also do much the same.

Strangely, the type of wheat may affect things. I can't eat pizza or

bread here in the UK, but can in Italy. Only one solution, then....!

Best of health to all,

Vicky

London, UK, 1954 model

http://www.vagalafibinfo.fsnet.co.uk/

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john wrote:

>Regarding the poll on pizza.

>

>Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of the

>sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce then

>spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a grilled

>cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it.

>BTW, I sure as heck hope it doesn't trigger it. I given up caffeine,

>chocolate, booze and try to limit diet pop to no more a glass a day.

>I ain't giving up my occasional pizza.

>

>P

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>Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

>List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

>For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

>send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>

>Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be

acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>

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Thanks for the info Vicky. Personally, I've never been bothered by

eating bread <wheat intolerance> or cheese. I was however treated

for H. Pylori <with antibiotics> and I do have acid reflux. I'm

currently taking Nexium for the stomach problems with limited

success. I ate spaghetti last Sunday and I'm still burning with the

acid.

Your site is quite interesting and I'm starting to wonder if all my

afib problems really are actually related to my stomach problems or

just a result of my heart disease.. I see a gastroenterolgist

tomorrow to see if my H pylori has been eliminated and I'm going to

ask him about all this.

Thanks, P

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>

> >Regarding the poll on pizza.

> >

> >Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of

the

> >sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce

then

> >spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a

grilled

> >cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it.

> >BTW, I sure as heck hope it doesn't trigger it. I given up

caffeine,

> >chocolate, booze and try to limit diet pop to no more a glass a

day.

> >I ain't giving up my occasional pizza.

> >

> >P

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> >List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> >For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via

email,

> >send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> >

> >Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> >

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Pizza does not seem to hurt my AFIB. , I like you think some of my AFIB

problems are linked to my stomach and reflux problems. Please keep me

posted about what the doctor tells you.

Good luck - take care.

Debbie in Texas

>

>Reply-To: AFIBsupport

>To: AFIBsupport

>Subject: Re: Pizza and Afib

>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:24:27 -0000

>

>Thanks for the info Vicky. Personally, I've never been bothered by

>eating bread <wheat intolerance> or cheese. I was however treated

>for H. Pylori <with antibiotics> and I do have acid reflux. I'm

>currently taking Nexium for the stomach problems with limited

>success. I ate spaghetti last Sunday and I'm still burning with the

>acid.

>

>Your site is quite interesting and I'm starting to wonder if all my

>afib problems really are actually related to my stomach problems or

>just a result of my heart disease.. I see a gastroenterolgist

>tomorrow to see if my H pylori has been eliminated and I'm going to

>ask him about all this.

>

>Thanks, P

>...................................

>

> >

> > >Regarding the poll on pizza.

> > >

> > >Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of

>the

> > >sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce

>then

> > >spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a

>grilled

> > >cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it.

> > >BTW, I sure as heck hope it doesn't trigger it. I given up

>caffeine,

> > >chocolate, booze and try to limit diet pop to no more a glass a

>day.

> > >I ain't giving up my occasional pizza.

> > >

> > >P

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > >List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > >For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via

>email,

> > >send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > >

> > >Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

>should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> > >

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I've always assumed it was the amount of sodium in the combination of dough,

tomato sauce, cheese, processed meat(s) and olives. (Used to work in a

dairy. The amount of salt in cheese can be breathtaking.) Store bought pies

generally give me more trouble than the homemade variety.

>

>Reply-To: AFIBsupport

>To: AFIBsupport

>Subject: Pizza and Afib

>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:13:16 -0000

>

>Regarding the poll on pizza.

>

>Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of the

>sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce then

>spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a grilled

>cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it...

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> Regarding the poll on pizza.

>

> Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of

the

> sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce then

> spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a grilled

> cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it.

> BTW, I sure as heck hope it doesn't trigger it. I given up

caffeine,

> chocolate, booze and try to limit diet pop to no more a glass a

day.

> I ain't giving up my occasional pizza.

>

> P

Well , it may seem a bit silly. Have a look here:

http://www.dialsolutions.com/af

I found it sort of odd that even a few people were wondering the same

as me. Perhaps the yeast? Perhaps nothing? Who knows.

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Debbie, I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed him the

paperwork on the H Pylori and Afib relationship. He said he was

aware that there was something " out there concerning this " but didn't

much credence in it at this time. He said he " wasn't blowing it off "

and that in 2 or 3 years he might change his thinking but as of now

he didn't buy it. He said the great majority of people with H Pylori

and other stomach problems like acid reflux don't have afib. He said

I should discuss it with my cardio and that he thought my afib was

caused by my heart disease. He said to watch the foods I eat that

cause the reflux and recommended that I keep taking Nexis every day

and try something called " Prelief " that's available over the

counter. He wouldn't guarantee it but said it might help. That was

about the extent of my visit.

P

> Pizza does not seem to hurt my AFIB. , I like you think some

of my AFIB

> problems are linked to my stomach and reflux problems. Please keep

me

> posted about what the doctor tells you.

>

> Good luck - take care.

>

> Debbie in Texas

>

>

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Debbie, I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed him the

paperwork on the H Pylori and Afib relationship. He said he was

aware that there was something " out there concerning this " but didn't

much credence in it at this time. He said he " wasn't blowing it off "

and that in 2 or 3 years he might change his thinking but as of now

he didn't buy it. He said the great majority of people with H Pylori

and other stomach problems like acid reflux don't have afib. He said

I should discuss it with my cardio and that he thought my afib was

caused by my heart disease. He said to watch the foods I eat that

cause the reflux and recommended that I keep taking Nexis every day

and try something called " Prelief " that's available over the

counter. He wouldn't guarantee it but said it might help. That was

about the extent of my visit.

P

> Pizza does not seem to hurt my AFIB. , I like you think some

of my AFIB

> problems are linked to my stomach and reflux problems. Please keep

me

> posted about what the doctor tells you.

>

> Good luck - take care.

>

> Debbie in Texas

>

>

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Debbie, I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed him the

paperwork on the H Pylori and Afib relationship. He said he was

aware that there was something " out there concerning this " but didn't

much credence in it at this time. He said he " wasn't blowing it off "

and that in 2 or 3 years he might change his thinking but as of now

he didn't buy it. He said the great majority of people with H Pylori

and other stomach problems like acid reflux don't have afib. He said

I should discuss it with my cardio and that he thought my afib was

caused by my heart disease. He said to watch the foods I eat that

cause the reflux and recommended that I keep taking Nexis every day

and try something called " Prelief " that's available over the

counter. He wouldn't guarantee it but said it might help. That was

about the extent of my visit.

P

> Pizza does not seem to hurt my AFIB. , I like you think some

of my AFIB

> problems are linked to my stomach and reflux problems. Please keep

me

> posted about what the doctor tells you.

>

> Good luck - take care.

>

> Debbie in Texas

>

>

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Thanks so much for the update - good luck with the Prefief - keep me posted.

Hope you have a great day.

Debbie

>

>Reply-To: AFIBsupport

>To: AFIBsupport

>Subject: Re: Pizza and Afib

>Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:07:41 -0000

>

>Debbie, I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed him the

>paperwork on the H Pylori and Afib relationship. He said he was

>aware that there was something " out there concerning this " but didn't

>much credence in it at this time. He said he " wasn't blowing it off "

>and that in 2 or 3 years he might change his thinking but as of now

>he didn't buy it. He said the great majority of people with H Pylori

>and other stomach problems like acid reflux don't have afib. He said

>I should discuss it with my cardio and that he thought my afib was

>caused by my heart disease. He said to watch the foods I eat that

>cause the reflux and recommended that I keep taking Nexis every day

>and try something called " Prelief " that's available over the

>counter. He wouldn't guarantee it but said it might help. That was

>about the extent of my visit.

>

>P

>

>

>

>

>

> > Pizza does not seem to hurt my AFIB. , I like you think some

>of my AFIB

> > problems are linked to my stomach and reflux problems. Please keep

>me

> > posted about what the doctor tells you.

> >

> > Good luck - take care.

> >

> > Debbie in Texas

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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> Regarding the poll on pizza.

>

> Why would pizza trigger afib? Because of the cheese? Because of the

> sauce? Surely not because of the dough. And if it's the sauce then

> spaghetti would also trigger it or if it's the cheese than a grilled

> cheese sandwich would be a no no. I don't get it.

> BTW, I sure as heck hope it doesn't trigger it. I given up caffeine,

> chocolate, booze and try to limit diet pop to no more a glass a day.

> I ain't giving up my occasional pizza.

>

> P

>

Maybe this highlights one of the annoying problems about trying to

figure out what triggers AF. For a couple of years I thought pizza

triggered my AF episodes. I finally figured out that when it comes to

pizzas I was a bit of a pig. I'm now of the opinion that it is not so

much pizza as eating any large quantity of food, especially in the late

evening, that is a trigger for me. One or two slices of pizza have never

triggered an episode - it's just cramming a whole pizza down my neck

that will give me trouble :)

Anyone who believes there's something peculiar about the ingredients

might want to try the 1 slice experiment - just remember to stop at 1 :)

Other people have reported that spicy food cause them trouble and a very

large number report trouble with GERD/acid reflux. My gut feeling

(pardon the pun) is that over filling the stomach is a good way to get

the vagal nerve over excited and is probably a separate issue from GERD

(which I don't suffer from) even if the end result is similar.

--

D

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