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> BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and

the " bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? >

>

The party bags we have from parties are never in the

" bigger and better " league.

Sometimes few sweets (Nestle often living so near York)

balloons and maybe a pencil and 10p note book and cake.

It does not really seem to matter what is in the bag as

long as a bag is given.

Presents usually seem to be around the £3 mark. Is that

the going rate?

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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I don't do party bags in the usual sense. I get the bags, put in party cake and

a balloon, plus a book. No plastic, no keeping-up-with-the-es, and the

parents are usually very impressed and not a little grateful that they haven't

got to find homes for/cope with a myriad of little plastic tat items. I buy the

books from www.thebookpeople.co.uk (I think), where you can get packs of books

for ridiculous prices. Some I have purchased have consisted of 12 classics

(such as The Secret Garden, etc.) for £8.99. At less than £1 per book, I'm on a

winner. These sorts of books are probably not of much interest to children your

daughter's age, but they do other packs appropriate to different ages.

Alison

BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the " bigger

and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? DH said we

ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I bet

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What a great idea Francesca. I think party bags are the biggest waste of

time & money, the contents always end up in the bin - even the cake doesn't

get eaten in this house. My 2 would be happy with a balloon to take away

from a party. Go for it, the mums may comment but the children won't even

notice.

Cerys

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DH said we

ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I bet

every child that is coming has tons of plastic rubbish that they never

even play with and does not need anymore BUT I don't want to make DD1

stick out. Has anyone else been brave enough to do something similar?

Francesca

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Francesca wrote

> BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and

the " bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? >

>

Completely and utterly (the competition aspect) especially as it seems

to detract from the real value of having fun for the children to them

being aware of their party needing to be 'better' - even very young

they seem to pick up on it -

I think there are some *nice* and cheap pressies to be had from

Hawkins Bazaar's catalogue (we got a nice little wooden teddy for £2

recently) which is well worth getting anyway just for the loony copy

alone. Also does some lovely traditional toys, as well as items of

general lunacy so necessary for balanced childhoods... .

www.hawkin.co.uk

Phone 01986-782536

I saw a photo of a 4yo at his Robin Hood birthday party - what are

peoples' views on getting children this young to dress up for

parties - don't they find it all a bit more overwhelming than

normally? The idea sounds really good fun for older children I

thought ...

Caro

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We have always had our children's parties in the Park, been lucky with the

weather over the years! We invite everyone along, ask them to bring along

food and drink and we don't give out any party bags or such like.

Don't know what people make of us but I think they find it relaxing because

it's so informal and 'laid back', they can arrive when they want, leave when

they want, loads of space etc., perhaps the kids grumble about not having

party bags? I don't know. We don't have all the stress or the tidying up to

do *and* most importantly our children seem to love it, early years and

later :))

Don't know what we're going to do for the next baby - due in September - ugh

weather could be a problem - ummmmm - I feel a marquee coming on ........

wonder if the local Parks will have a problem with that?

Jenni

(& Gethyn) 16.5yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

> Just spent the last three hours buttering and filling little rolls,

> blowing up balloons, filling party bags, hunting for plastic plates

> etc etc etc - DD1 |(the stubborn Taurean) will be three on Monday and

> is having her party tomorrow - I have 13 two and three year olds

> descending (hopefully with at least one parent each in tow!) for two

> hours tomorrow with at least three year old or so siblings! Am I mad?

> Think of me you lot between 2pm and 4pm tomorrow!

>

> BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the " bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? DH said we

> ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

> girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I bet

> every child that is coming has tons of plastic rubbish that they never

> even play with and does not need anymore BUT I don't want to make DD1

> stick out. Has anyone else been brave enough to do something similar?

>

>

> Francesca

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We have always had our children's parties in the Park, been lucky with the

weather over the years! We invite everyone along, ask them to bring along

food and drink and we don't give out any party bags or such like.

Don't know what people make of us but I think they find it relaxing because

it's so informal and 'laid back', they can arrive when they want, leave when

they want, loads of space etc., perhaps the kids grumble about not having

party bags? I don't know. We don't have all the stress or the tidying up to

do *and* most importantly our children seem to love it, early years and

later :))

Don't know what we're going to do for the next baby - due in September - ugh

weather could be a problem - ummmmm - I feel a marquee coming on ........

wonder if the local Parks will have a problem with that?

Jenni

(& Gethyn) 16.5yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

> Just spent the last three hours buttering and filling little rolls,

> blowing up balloons, filling party bags, hunting for plastic plates

> etc etc etc - DD1 |(the stubborn Taurean) will be three on Monday and

> is having her party tomorrow - I have 13 two and three year olds

> descending (hopefully with at least one parent each in tow!) for two

> hours tomorrow with at least three year old or so siblings! Am I mad?

> Think of me you lot between 2pm and 4pm tomorrow!

>

> BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the " bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? DH said we

> ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

> girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I bet

> every child that is coming has tons of plastic rubbish that they never

> even play with and does not need anymore BUT I don't want to make DD1

> stick out. Has anyone else been brave enough to do something similar?

>

>

> Francesca

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We have always had our children's parties in the Park, been lucky with the

weather over the years! We invite everyone along, ask them to bring along

food and drink and we don't give out any party bags or such like.

Don't know what people make of us but I think they find it relaxing because

it's so informal and 'laid back', they can arrive when they want, leave when

they want, loads of space etc., perhaps the kids grumble about not having

party bags? I don't know. We don't have all the stress or the tidying up to

do *and* most importantly our children seem to love it, early years and

later :))

Don't know what we're going to do for the next baby - due in September - ugh

weather could be a problem - ummmmm - I feel a marquee coming on ........

wonder if the local Parks will have a problem with that?

Jenni

(& Gethyn) 16.5yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

> Just spent the last three hours buttering and filling little rolls,

> blowing up balloons, filling party bags, hunting for plastic plates

> etc etc etc - DD1 |(the stubborn Taurean) will be three on Monday and

> is having her party tomorrow - I have 13 two and three year olds

> descending (hopefully with at least one parent each in tow!) for two

> hours tomorrow with at least three year old or so siblings! Am I mad?

> Think of me you lot between 2pm and 4pm tomorrow!

>

> BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the " bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? DH said we

> ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

> girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I bet

> every child that is coming has tons of plastic rubbish that they never

> even play with and does not need anymore BUT I don't want to make DD1

> stick out. Has anyone else been brave enough to do something similar?

>

>

> Francesca

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> Francesca wrote

> > BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and

> the " bigger

> > and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? >

I still cringe at an incident when I was about 5 or 6 and went to a

party whose parents were obviously uninitiated in the ritual of what

was then (1950's) known as the " going home present " . At the end of

the party I stood waiting for my present, when none seemed

forthcoming, I loudly asked where it was. The embarrassed father of

the birthday girl put a hand in his pocket and gave me a threepenny

bit!

Ruthie

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My bugbear is the cake to take away! have often found solid lumps in

the DDs bedrooms months later....... here the cake is eaten at our

house, or not at all! JM2p.

At one party, I had a cork board with bags (free paper ones from WW

pick& mix, with a clown`s face on) with names on, each fastened on by

a drawing pin - when someone won a game, the prize went in the bag

so they had made uptheir own party bags! Prizes were stickers/wrapped

sweets/small ball/pencils/20p notebooks...

A friend gave away comics at the end of one party, that was v popular!

Books sounds a good idea, as Alison does.

With 3+s, I used to draw or trace a picture to colour in,e.g. a Barbie

with a big dress & pattern to colour in, with 'Welcome to xxx`s party'

in bubble writing on it & photocopy one per child.

sometimes one or all just wanted some 'down time' so they could sit &

colour it in, if not, they could take home.

Have a brill day ,

HTH Barbara

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Jenni wrote:

> Don't know what we're going to do for the next baby - due in

September - ugh

> weather could be a problem - ummmmm - I feel a marquee coming on

.........

> wonder if the local Parks will have a problem with that?

Love the idea of the outdoor party but Steffi's a December baby which

is find Down Under but not great when in the Northern Hemisphere :(

When we wanted to do a fundraiser in the park they charged something

like 35 quid to guarantee a space but since you will just be having an

informal meeting of friends...

On one of the Home and Garden progs here they made an excleent outdoor

entertaining area for just such occasions. Used some long thick

pieces of dowelling, sailcloth, rings, etc. Can't remember exactly

what they did but it was fantastic. I'll try and find it on the web.

They used trestle tables covered with bright cloth and to weight the

cloths down used long pieces of a contrasting fabric about 4 inches

wide which had a pocket sewn in each end. In each pocket went a large

stone and then these were placed across the table.

--

Sue

Melbourne, Oz

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Jenni

Both of mine are latter part of September babes - the weather for past

12 years around that time, before and after, has been that wonderful

mellow ripe sort of sunshine - excellent for park birthdays - it's a

perfect time to sprog because of connotations of ripeness and fruit

(purple prose, or what?!), harvest festivals, and celebratory

sunshine, IMHO....

Caro

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My friend tried to give Barbie goody bags to her 7 year olds girl invitees and

was turned down flat!!!

I would have died if mine turned their nose up at anything but most of the Mums

present didn't seem to be bothered.

DD did rather well out of it though, she loves Barbie.

Mc

SAHM 6, Olivia 3, 2, 1

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>I saw a photo of a 4yo at his Robin Hood birthday party - what are

>peoples' views on getting children this young to dress up for

>parties - don't they find it all a bit more overwhelming than

>normally? The idea sounds really good fun for older children I

>thought ...

My 3 1/2 year old will not dress up and will not have his face [aonted, so

if he was invited to a fancy dress party he'd just have to go as himself.

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>I saw a photo of a 4yo at his Robin Hood birthday party - what are

>peoples' views on getting children this young to dress up for

>parties - don't they find it all a bit more overwhelming than

>normally? The idea sounds really good fun for older children I

>thought ...

My 3 1/2 year old will not dress up and will not have his face [aonted, so

if he was invited to a fancy dress party he'd just have to go as himself.

Newsletter Editor, Leighton Buzzard & District NCT

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>My 3 1/2 year old will not dress up and will not have his face [aonted, so

>if he was invited to a fancy dress party he'd just have to go as himself.

I meant painted (I've got a new keyboard and the keys are slightly bigger,

hence typos. Can you tell I don't touch type?)

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>My 3 1/2 year old will not dress up and will not have his face [aonted, so

>if he was invited to a fancy dress party he'd just have to go as himself.

I meant painted (I've got a new keyboard and the keys are slightly bigger,

hence typos. Can you tell I don't touch type?)

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I didn't really want to do bags but succumbed and in the end I did craft

bags, coloured paper, sticky shapes, glue stick, paint brush, couple of

crayons/chalk.

Seemed to go down really well.

> My 2 would be happy with a balloon to take away

> from a party.

> Cerys

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> Caro wrote

> Both of mine are latter part of September babes - the weather for past

> 12 years around that time, before and after, has been that wonderful

> mellow ripe sort of sunshine - excellent for park birthdays - it's a

> perfect time to sprog because of connotations of ripeness and fruit

> (purple prose, or what?!), harvest festivals, and celebratory

> sunshine, IMHO....

Caro.

I have been feeling a bit down about having to be pregnant all through the

Summer. I usually camp for two months with no facilities in a remote valley

and it just isn't practical when I'm heavily pregnant :( I will still go

camping but somewhere nearer to 'civilization' - I'll miss 'my Valley'

really badly.

I haven't been too keen on the idea of a 'Winter' babi but I forget that

it's a really nice time of year. I guess I associate September with

returning to the City, to school, to normality ...

So ... thanks for the interesting thoughts ... I *must* be more positive ...

I *must* be more positive ... I *must* be more positive ... :))

Jenni

(& Gethyn) 16.5yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

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> Sue wrote:

> On one of the Home and Garden progs here they made an excleent outdoor

> entertaining area for just such occasions ... I'll try and find it on the web.

>

Thanks Sue - sounds brilliant - love more details if you can find them :)

Jenni

(& Gethyn) 16.5yrs, Mari 3yrs (HB), Babi Bach exp.09/2001

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> > BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the

" bigger

> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now? DH said

we

> ought to just say we are donating the money we spent to our little

> girl that we sponsor in Burkino Faso which I would love to do as I

bet

> every child that is coming has tons of plastic rubbish that they

never

> even play with and does not need anymore BUT I don't want to make

DD1

> stick out. Has anyone else been brave enough to do something

similar?<<

Haven't been brave enough to entirely do away with " party bags " but

for DS3 who was 3 last week, I just bought those bubble packs from the

Early Learning Centre. They cost £2.00 each and contain a big bottle

of bubbles, a little cup and a blower. As he he had 5 friends coming

it did cost me £10 but I figure you end up spending a fortune anyway

by the time you've bought the bag, toys, sweets etc to go in them.

Anyhow, all the mums said what a brilliant idea as they certainly

didn't want to go off weighed down with bitty toys and sweets,

balloons etc anyway.

Another thing I did when my then 7 year old daughter had her last

party (stop at that age in this house) was to have a craft party where

they all painted a little ornament and made a paper box each to put it

in and stamp it and then made their own paper party bags. So they

were just taking home what they had just made.

Lorraine,

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> My friend tried to give Barbie goody bags to her 7 year olds girl

invitees and was turned down flat!!!

>

> I would have died if mine turned their nose up at anything but most

of the Mums present didn't seem to be bothered.<<

My 8 year old has been off Barbie for over a year now, but she

wouldn't DARE refuse something like that. How totally rude! I can't

believe the mums didn't say anything.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> My 3 1/2 year old will not dress up and will not have his face

[aonted, so

> if he was invited to a fancy dress party he'd just have to go as

himself.<<

My now 10 year old was very like this - remember going to a fancy

dress when he was about 5 so I just put him in jeans and a checked

shirt and pretended he was a builder. He has never ever gone through

the wanting to dress up stage, and now age 10 he says he doesn't

really see the point.

Lorraine

Mum to thomas 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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>> > BTW, is anyone else fed up with the idea of party bags and the

> " bigger

>> and better " competition that goes on between mummies now?

The other thing is he taking in of sweets and chocolate to school/nursery

when it's a child's birthday. I didn't even know about this practice until

I read about it on this list, but sure enough, every now and again

comes out of nursery with choccy buttons or something, because

someone had a birthday. Now I don't personally have any objection to my

children having sweets/chocolate, but I know many parents do, and meanwhile

I object to feeling under obligation to provide sweeties for all on the

occasion of one of my children's birthdays. I know that some schools are

banning the practice. When we were children, it was a big enough treat just

to go up in assembly and display your cards and have happy birthday sung to

you. I think I'm going to make a stand and be a miserable old cow and *not*

do it when has his birthday in September!

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>Just spent the last three hours buttering and filling little rolls,

>blowing up balloons, filling party bags, hunting for plastic plates

>etc etc etc - DD1 |(the stubborn Taurean) will be three on Monday and

>is having her party tomorrow - I have 13 two and three year olds

>descending (hopefully with at least one parent each in tow!) for two

>hours tomorrow with at least three year old or so siblings! Am I mad?

>Think of me you lot between 2pm and 4pm tomorrow!

I had thought that DS1 would appreciate some friends round for his

3rd birthday - but, sniff, no-one could come nor seemed very

interested in coming (you know we had that discussion a while back

about children with every waking minute programmed... don't get me

started, DS1s best friend in theory has two days when he isn't at

nursery so his Mum can spend time with him - but can they fit in any

time to see him between swimming and music and tumble tots...no. He

isn't 3 yet and he can't skip a session of anything (unless he falls

asleep!)

So, we had just had DHs aunt for the day, plus the usual party ware

(see www.vaudin.net) He had a lovely time and we could be pretty

spontaneous about it all (eg we went off into town to spend his

birthday money - though the bomb scare that put the kybosh on that is

another story...)

Didn't even have to provide a party bag for DHs aunt as she is

diabetic and doesn't eat cake.

--

jennifer@...

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> The other thing is he taking in of sweets and chocolate to

school/nursery

> when it's a child's birthday. I didn't even know about this

practice until

> I read about it on this list, but sure enough, every now and again

> comes out of nursery with choccy buttons or something,

because

> someone had a birthday. Now I don't personally have any objection

to my

> children having sweets/chocolate, but I know many parents do, and

meanwhile

> I object to feeling under obligation to provide sweeties for all on

the

> occasion of one of my children's birthdays. I know that some

schools are

> banning the practice. When we were children, it was a big enough

treat just

> to go up in assembly and display your cards and have happy birthday

sung to

> you. I think I'm going to make a stand and be a miserable old cow

and *not*

> do it when has his birthday in September!<<

I am already a " miserable old cow " because I never have sent sweets in

on my kids birthdays. It is just something I don't want to get into.

There are so many kids in the class anyway that none of the other mums

would notice if you didn't. Two of my kids always have birthdays in

the holidays anyhow so it isn't really too much of an issue.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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