Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was one of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our body that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to other issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What exactly have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? Chris hypotonicty Hello everyone, Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any experience with this? worried mom, Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was one of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our body that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to other issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What exactly have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? Chris hypotonicty Hello everyone, Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any experience with this? worried mom, Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 : I am not familiar with this condition- but reading one of the replys I think I might have a doc who can help you. Dr. Josh at UNC Chapel Hill, NC. His e-mail is joshua_alexander@... He is a specialist with peditraic rehab and he helps kids with all different issues. He also does a lot of tele commuting stuff. I contacted him and told him about my son to see if he was a match or not. I can give you more info if you want it. Raleigh, NC hypotonicty > Hello everyone, > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > experience with this? > worried mom, > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 : I am not familiar with this condition- but reading one of the replys I think I might have a doc who can help you. Dr. Josh at UNC Chapel Hill, NC. His e-mail is joshua_alexander@... He is a specialist with peditraic rehab and he helps kids with all different issues. He also does a lot of tele commuting stuff. I contacted him and told him about my son to see if he was a match or not. I can give you more info if you want it. Raleigh, NC hypotonicty > Hello everyone, > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > experience with this? > worried mom, > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Thank you for your help. At this point we are waiting to do testing with the neurolgist. After we have the patho and physiology of the diagnosis I will know alot more. Dr. will probably be a great help when I can tell him some facts. I know very little at this time but will keep his and your name for a later time. Thank-you so much. In nosurgery4clubfoot , " Nolfo " wrote: > : > > I am not familiar with this condition- but reading one of the replys I think > I might have a doc who can help you. Dr. Josh at UNC Chapel Hill, > NC. His e-mail is joshua_alexander@m... He is a specialist with > peditraic rehab and he helps kids with all different issues. He also does a > lot of tele commuting stuff. I contacted him and told him about my son to > see if he was a match or not. I can give you more info if you want it. > > > Raleigh, NC > > > > > hypotonicty > > > > Hello everyone, > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > > experience with this? > > worried mom, > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , You might want to mention the hypo to Dr Mosca. When he was recasting Kai the last time he asked me about hyperflexibility (which I have in some joints) and noted that it may have something to do with the plantaris/cavus and instability of the foot. If Sadie does have hypotonicity it might shed some light on, help in the treatment of her feet. Angel hypotonicty > > > Hello everyone, > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > experience with this? > worried mom, > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Hi, Forgive my ignorance but what is hypotonicity? Thanks! Marilouise > > , > > I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was one > of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but > she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our body > that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to other > issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What exactly > have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? > > Chris > > hypotonicty > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > > experience with this? > > worried mom, > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 > > , > > I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was one > of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but > she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our body > that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to other > issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What exactly > have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? > > Chris > > hypotonicty > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > > experience with this? > > worried mom, > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 I was the one who mentioned the doc in Raleigh, NC. His name is Dr. Josh . He is a ped rehab doc who deals with kids with all kinds of issues. He also does a bunch of tele medical work all over the state and maybe farther. Contact me and I can give you info on him. He is great! My email is knolfo@... Raleigh, NC hypotonicty > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have > any > > > experience with this? > > > worried mom, > > > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace > 20/day > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Know that I'm speaking from my experience as a parent, teacher and director of a nonprofit that served children and their families but not as a medical professional. It does sound to me like your daughter may have a global syndrome of some kind that has yet to be identified. While that's a good thing (meaning there was nothing obvious about her features and such so they didn't identify it at birth and beyond) it can also be frustrating because you feel like there's something you need to be doing to help her but you just don't know what that might be. My son who was hypotonic was born with stein-Taybi Syndrome, a very rare genetic syndrome that has a few identifying markers so I knew right away what they thought his abilities might be. Before he died he did manage to blow much of that right out of the water but that was because he had a very dedicated mommy who worked with his therapists to see that he was able to achieve all he could and pushed the system until it met his needs. My daughter is much less effected with things than my son was but I know there is just something that's not quite right. She was born a bit early and has had some challenges in her young life. The physicians in the NICU tried to diagnose her with some global syndrome but it seems all she has that's identifiable is severe reflux which can cause many of her problems. Along with those she is slightly hypotonic and has a few slight delays but as I said in an earlier post, she's overcoming them better than anyone ever expected. After all, the NICU Neonatalogist told us to prepare for her funeral when she was only 3 days old. The other day she rolled over and scoots herself across the floor with legs stronger than I've seen on a 5 month old in a long time and babbles up a blue streak. She tolerates her FAB very well and she certainly has more on the ball than even I realize as she proves that over and over each day. So much for the knowledge of Dr's. LOL Anyway - I know there is something that needs help but I just don't know what it is. So, I'm 'treating' the 'symptoms' and hoping that along the way she overcomes everything and leads a relatively wonderful life in the end. I encourage you to do the same. Figure out what she needs help with and get it for her. If she is hypotonic then make sure your PT is working on that issue. If they discover something else, put that therapist on your weekly regime as well. As for her developmental delays - talk to your PT and get an OT and a ST if needed. You'll feel better because you are doing something proactive and she'll benefit for the rest of her life. Please let us know how things are going. I'll be thinking of you - Chris hypotonicty > > > Hello everyone, > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > experience with this? > worried mom, > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Hi , My heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing your story. I am just begining this process of discovering what is going on. Right now I am just focusing on the fact that Sadie is a happy little girl and does not know that life is not suppose to be this hard. I hope Grace is a happy girl despite her problems. It is obvious that she is very loved.I am happy to share any info we find as this journey unfolds. Sadie had a normal delivery, bilateral clubfoot and bilateral plantaris. She is slighty behind in her mental development as well as physical. The neuro and developmental test will guide us to the next step. Thank you thank you for your support. denise > > > , > > > I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was > one > > of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but > > she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our > body > > that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to other > > issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What > exactly > > have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? > > > Chris > > > hypotonicty > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have > any > > > experience with this? > > > worried mom, > > > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace > 20/day > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 thank you for sharing your story. Your strength and determination is inspiring and contagious your children are proof of that. It is awsome that they both rose above the challenges that life gave them. I feel blessed that Sadie will have what ever she will need. I am a full time mommy and will gladly do as you suggested and spend as much time as needed doing whatever I can to help her in any way.-We are justing starting to unravel Sadie special story. I will keep you all up to date on her diagnosis and her progress. -- In nosurgery4clubfoot , " " wrote: > , > Know that I'm speaking from my experience as a parent, teacher and director of a nonprofit that served children and their families but not as a medical professional. It does sound to me like your daughter may have a global syndrome of some kind that has yet to be identified. While that's a good thing (meaning there was nothing obvious about her features and such so they didn't identify it at birth and beyond) it can also be frustrating because you feel like there's something you need to be doing to help her but you just don't know what that might be. > > My son who was hypotonic was born with stein-Taybi Syndrome, a very rare genetic syndrome that has a few identifying markers so I knew right away what they thought his abilities might be. Before he died he did manage to blow much of that right out of the water but that was because he had a very dedicated mommy who worked with his therapists to see that he was able to achieve all he could and pushed the system until it met his needs. > > My daughter is much less effected with things than my son was but I know there is just something that's not quite right. She was born a bit early and has had some challenges in her young life. The physicians in the NICU tried to diagnose her with some global syndrome but it seems all she has that's identifiable is severe reflux which can cause many of her problems. Along with those she is slightly hypotonic and has a few slight delays but as I said in an earlier post, she's overcoming them better than anyone ever expected. After all, the NICU Neonatalogist told us to prepare for her funeral when she was only 3 days old. The other day she rolled over and scoots herself across the floor with legs stronger than I've seen on a 5 month old in a long time and babbles up a blue streak. She tolerates her FAB very well and she certainly has more on the ball than even I realize as she proves that over and over each day. So much for the knowledge of Dr's. LOL Anyway - I know there is something that needs help but I just don't know what it is. So, I'm 'treating' the 'symptoms' and hoping that along the way she overcomes everything and leads a relatively wonderful life in the end. > > I encourage you to do the same. Figure out what she needs help with and get it for her. If she is hypotonic then make sure your PT is working on that issue. If they discover something else, put that therapist on your weekly regime as well. As for her developmental delays - talk to your PT and get an OT and a ST if needed. You'll feel better because you are doing something proactive and she'll benefit for the rest of her life. > > Please let us know how things are going. I'll be thinking of you - > Chris > hypotonicty > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have any > > experience with this? > > worried mom, > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace 20/day > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Hello, My son is 10 month. I'm not sue wethrr he has hypotonicity or hyperflexibility, each Dr says something else. We are doing Feldenkrize classes for about 4 month now. I'm don't think he has a severe problem. He rolled both sided when he was 5.5 month old. But he had to be taught to use his hands – open his palms and push himself towards sitting. He sat for the first time when he was 9 month old. Recently we started to take him to the swimming pool- movement classes- and I think it makes him stronger. I hope he will be crawling soon. He also like other parents wrote here, is able to do weird movements. Sometimes I say to myself it is like a freak show- in a funny way. We took him too times to see a genetic counselor, because of 3 things. 1. hypotonicity or hyperflexibility. 2. Simian cress (don't know how to write it)- having only one line in his right palm. 3. Clubfoot. The first counselor said this is no reason to do blood test. We need to see how he develops mentally. The second thought it is a reason to do the blood tests. We decided not to do them, after all. Good luck Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To see the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Funny how I am seeing some of the same things in some of our kids all of a sudden. Kai also has a certain amount of hyperflexibility, a simian crease, and was behind on gross motor for some time. He has a speech delay/disorder - he just started saying a few words this week and they are only understandable to us, and then only if we know what he is " talking " about (such as " ba na na - like banana - for Bye, Nana - with an " ahh " sound). He also has a few other anomolies - tongue tied, abnormally shaped ear lobes, allergies. He was born a month premature. Really makes me wonder hearing all the others pointing at similar things. Dr Mosca suggested he have genetic testing a while back, but his ped takes forever to get into and his 18 mo check up is not until August (when he will be 20 months). Angel Re: hypotonicty Hello, My son is 10 month. I'm not sue wethrr he has hypotonicity or hyperflexibility, each Dr says something else. We are doing Feldenkrize classes for about 4 month now. I'm don't think he has a severe problem. He rolled both sided when he was 5.5 month old. But he had to be taught to use his hands - open his palms and push himself towards sitting. He sat for the first time when he was 9 month old. Recently we started to take him to the swimming pool- movement classes- and I think it makes him stronger. I hope he will be crawling soon. He also like other parents wrote here, is able to do weird movements. Sometimes I say to myself it is like a freak show- in a funny way. We took him too times to see a genetic counselor, because of 3 things. 1. hypotonicity or hyperflexibility. 2. Simian cress (don't know how to write it)- having only one line in his right palm. 3. Clubfoot. The first counselor said this is no reason to do blood test. We need to see how he develops mentally. The second thought it is a reason to do the blood tests. We decided not to do them, after all. Good luck Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To see the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 > > > > , > > > > I had a son with a global syndrome of which low muscle tone was > > one > > > of his major issues. My daughter was born with a bit of hypo but > > > she's overcoming it quite well. There are many muscles in our > > body > > > that can be hypo as well as that term referring medically to > other > > > issues in the body involving some of our major organs. What > > exactly > > > have they termed 'hypo'? Do they think it's related to her feet? > > > > Chris > > > > hypotonicty > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Sadie was diagnosed with hypotonicty. Does anyone else have > > any > > > > experience with this? > > > > worried mom, > > > > > > > > Sadie 5/8/03 Bcf with Bilateral plantaris. mitchell brace > > 20/day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 I am not sure the difference between hypotonicity and hyperflexability. I think hypo causes the flexability but I am no expert. Sadie's weakness seems to be mostly her lower extremties. What is Feldenkrieze class? Thank you for your responce. It is so helpful to hear of others experiences and thoughts.I know what you are saying about the 'freak'movements. We laugh about cira solea or however you spell it. -- In nosurgery4clubfoot , " iditwagner " wrote: > Hello, > My son is 10 month. I'm not sue wethrr he has hypotonicity or > hyperflexibility, each Dr says something else. We are doing > Feldenkrize classes for about 4 month now. I'm don't think he has a > severe problem. He rolled both sided when he was 5.5 month old. But > he had to be taught to use his hands – open his palms and push > himself towards sitting. He sat for the first time when he was 9 > month old. Recently we started to take him to the swimming pool- > movement classes- and I think it makes him stronger. I hope he will > be crawling soon. He also like other parents wrote here, is able to > do weird movements. Sometimes I say to myself it is like a freak > show- in a funny way. We took him too times to see a genetic > counselor, because of 3 things. 1. hypotonicity or hyperflexibility. > 2. Simian cress (don't know how to write it)- having only one line > in his right palm. 3. Clubfoot. > The first counselor said this is no reason to do blood test. We need > to see how he develops mentally. The second thought it is a reason > to do the blood tests. We decided not to do them, after all. > > Good luck > > > > Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 > hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To see > the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Hello, Our orthopedic Dr. sayed hypotonicity is low-or-hight tense of the museles. Hyperflexibility is flexibility in the ligaments. Feldenkrize- a man who invented therapy by movement. People use his technique instead of physiotherapy (which can also be helpful for hypotonicity and hyperflexibility.). see if you can see something here: http://www.feldenkraislearning.com/articles/aboutmoshe.htm or here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feldenkrais. I think Oshri is week in his lower body more than in his hands- shoulders. When he is lying on his belly, he rests his for arm on the floor. Not his palms with straight arms. – I was shocked to learn that it is not the normal way. With Feldenkrize he was thought to open his palms and push him self to sit. And you're right. It is good to read that other children with Clubfoot had this problem. I'm hearing many approaches to this- whether it is something to take care of or just let the child do it all by him self… Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To see the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. > > Hello, > > My son is 10 month. I'm not sue wethrr he has hypotonicity or > > hyperflexibility, each Dr says something else. We are doing > > Feldenkrize classes for about 4 month now. I'm don't think he has a > > severe problem. He rolled both sided when he was 5.5 month old. But > > he had to be taught to use his hands – open his palms and push > > himself towards sitting. He sat for the first time when he was 9 > > month old. Recently we started to take him to the swimming pool- > > movement classes- and I think it makes him stronger. I hope he will > > be crawling soon. He also like other parents wrote here, is able to > > do weird movements. Sometimes I say to myself it is like a freak > > show- in a funny way. We took him too times to see a genetic > > counselor, because of 3 things. 1. hypotonicity or > hyperflexibility. > > 2. Simian cress (don't know how to write it)- having only one line > > in his right palm. 3. Clubfoot. > > The first counselor said this is no reason to do blood test. We > need > > to see how he develops mentally. The second thought it is a reason > > to do the blood tests. We decided not to do them, after all. > > > > Good luck > > > > > > > > Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 > > hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To > see > > the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Everett was born tongue tied as well. s. Re: hypotonicty Hello, My son is 10 month. I'm not sue wethrr he has hypotonicity or hyperflexibility, each Dr says something else. We are doing Feldenkrize classes for about 4 month now. I'm don't think he has a severe problem. He rolled both sided when he was 5.5 month old. But he had to be taught to use his hands - open his palms and push himself towards sitting. He sat for the first time when he was 9 month old. Recently we started to take him to the swimming pool- movement classes- and I think it makes him stronger. I hope he will be crawling soon. He also like other parents wrote here, is able to do weird movements. Sometimes I say to myself it is like a freak show- in a funny way. We took him too times to see a genetic counselor, because of 3 things. 1. hypotonicity or hyperflexibility. 2. Simian cress (don't know how to write it)- having only one line in his right palm. 3. Clubfoot. The first counselor said this is no reason to do blood test. We need to see how he develops mentally. The second thought it is a reason to do the blood tests. We decided not to do them, after all. Good luck Idit, mom to Oshri, 10 month. BL ClubFoot, heavy DBB for 16/24 hours.. http://truly_clubfoot.tripod.com - website in Hebrew. To see the photos click on the leftist link on the top frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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