Re: How much will Chemo Help?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jehret@... writes:

I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage IIIc

with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I enjoy

doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together sometime.

Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jehret@... writes:

I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage IIIc

with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I enjoy

doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together sometime.

Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jehret@... writes:

I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage IIIc

with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I enjoy

doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together sometime.

Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

[Guest guest]

well I am working up to it... I have wanted to do this since forever,

but never had the nerve. My son in law is/was a sky diver (he is too

heavy now).... Daughter Laurie did a tandem jump and wants to do it

again... What a rush she said, and you don't get that jerk when the

chute opens either. I got a video of it. I just don't want to be like

that lady who lost her teeth when she was jumping. Hilarious. LOL.. If a

96 year old man can do it (and he didn't do a tandem jump either, and

nearly fell out of plane, hurt one arm) I would think I could. I need to

get in better shape first. Get through this chemo...

Am way better today, effects are wearing off though still mild

indigestion and moderate diarrhea.

Glands still feel sore. Took nap after I got back from hospital and

blood work (very busy this morning), and got my butt paste but found we

had some Desitin so that helps a bunch - I can't find the butt past now,

put it somewhere. LOL..Chemo brain at work.

Take care... JOlene

>

[Guest guest]

well I am working up to it... I have wanted to do this since forever,

but never had the nerve. My son in law is/was a sky diver (he is too

heavy now).... Daughter Laurie did a tandem jump and wants to do it

again... What a rush she said, and you don't get that jerk when the

chute opens either. I got a video of it. I just don't want to be like

that lady who lost her teeth when she was jumping. Hilarious. LOL.. If a

96 year old man can do it (and he didn't do a tandem jump either, and

nearly fell out of plane, hurt one arm) I would think I could. I need to

get in better shape first. Get through this chemo...

Am way better today, effects are wearing off though still mild

indigestion and moderate diarrhea.

Glands still feel sore. Took nap after I got back from hospital and

blood work (very busy this morning), and got my butt paste but found we

had some Desitin so that helps a bunch - I can't find the butt past now,

put it somewhere. LOL..Chemo brain at work.

Take care... JOlene

>

[Guest guest]

well I am working up to it... I have wanted to do this since forever,

but never had the nerve. My son in law is/was a sky diver (he is too

heavy now).... Daughter Laurie did a tandem jump and wants to do it

again... What a rush she said, and you don't get that jerk when the

chute opens either. I got a video of it. I just don't want to be like

that lady who lost her teeth when she was jumping. Hilarious. LOL.. If a

96 year old man can do it (and he didn't do a tandem jump either, and

nearly fell out of plane, hurt one arm) I would think I could. I need to

get in better shape first. Get through this chemo...

Am way better today, effects are wearing off though still mild

indigestion and moderate diarrhea.

Glands still feel sore. Took nap after I got back from hospital and

blood work (very busy this morning), and got my butt paste but found we

had some Desitin so that helps a bunch - I can't find the butt past now,

put it somewhere. LOL..Chemo brain at work.

Take care... JOlene

>

[Guest guest]

Bob (if I may),

I looked around and found two studies. The first was a European

study that is dated a couple of years - it studied using 5FU/Leucovorin

vs. nothing. The results were such that people who chose to do

chemotherapy had a 4%less chance of recurrance and about a 13%

improvement in overall survival. Without chemo, about 70-74% survived

at least 5 years, while those with chemo had a 85-90% chance of five

year survival. Significant to note - there was no improvement in

survival for people 70 and older.

More recently, drug companies have been trying to migrate there stage

IV drugs in to stage ii and iii settings. As a result, we are starting

to see some more studies in this area. In 2004, such was done with

oxaliplatin, a drug that provides substantial benefit to stage IV

patients when used with 5FU and Leucovorin. That study (about 3000

people) showed that 81% of stage ii have a five year survival rate if

5FFU and Leucovorin only are used. Add oxaliplatin, the survival rate

jumped to 85.1% (20% reduction in risk). I did not see anything that

addressed the effects of age. It also did not include an arm with no

chemotherapy at all, so it is hard to directly compare the two.

All in all, as you can see, chemo provides a modest insurance benefit

in the case of stage II. Because of the relative modestness of the

benefit and the lack of a lot of research, it is clearly not as

evidient as is the case in Stage III or IV, where I think you batten

down the hatches and dive into chemo headfirst. I think it boils down

to this - is six months worth of chemotherapy worth the modest

statistical benefit? Chemotherapy is not a free ride - some will get

pretty sick, so it might be a case where you will give up a substantial

quality of life for the duration of the treatments. And, if you are

getting older, those are six months that you will not get back.

Hope this helps - Joe

>

> I had colon cancer and my ascending colon was removed.

>

> With stage II cancer T3, N0,M0, the survival rate after 5 years is

85%.

>

> If I have chemo, after having a section of my colon removed, what

would

> that do to improve the survival rate. My age is 65.

>

> Please respond if you know the answer.

>

> Bob236@a...

[Guest guest]

Bob (if I may),

I looked around and found two studies. The first was a European

study that is dated a couple of years - it studied using 5FU/Leucovorin

vs. nothing. The results were such that people who chose to do

chemotherapy had a 4%less chance of recurrance and about a 13%

improvement in overall survival. Without chemo, about 70-74% survived

at least 5 years, while those with chemo had a 85-90% chance of five

year survival. Significant to note - there was no improvement in

survival for people 70 and older.

More recently, drug companies have been trying to migrate there stage

IV drugs in to stage ii and iii settings. As a result, we are starting

to see some more studies in this area. In 2004, such was done with

oxaliplatin, a drug that provides substantial benefit to stage IV

patients when used with 5FU and Leucovorin. That study (about 3000

people) showed that 81% of stage ii have a five year survival rate if

5FFU and Leucovorin only are used. Add oxaliplatin, the survival rate

jumped to 85.1% (20% reduction in risk). I did not see anything that

addressed the effects of age. It also did not include an arm with no

chemotherapy at all, so it is hard to directly compare the two.

All in all, as you can see, chemo provides a modest insurance benefit

in the case of stage II. Because of the relative modestness of the

benefit and the lack of a lot of research, it is clearly not as

evidient as is the case in Stage III or IV, where I think you batten

down the hatches and dive into chemo headfirst. I think it boils down

to this - is six months worth of chemotherapy worth the modest

statistical benefit? Chemotherapy is not a free ride - some will get

pretty sick, so it might be a case where you will give up a substantial

quality of life for the duration of the treatments. And, if you are

getting older, those are six months that you will not get back.

Hope this helps - Joe

>

> I had colon cancer and my ascending colon was removed.

>

> With stage II cancer T3, N0,M0, the survival rate after 5 years is

85%.

>

> If I have chemo, after having a section of my colon removed, what

would

> that do to improve the survival rate. My age is 65.

>

> Please respond if you know the answer.

>

> Bob236@a...

[Guest guest]

Bob (if I may),

I looked around and found two studies. The first was a European

study that is dated a couple of years - it studied using 5FU/Leucovorin

vs. nothing. The results were such that people who chose to do

chemotherapy had a 4%less chance of recurrance and about a 13%

improvement in overall survival. Without chemo, about 70-74% survived

at least 5 years, while those with chemo had a 85-90% chance of five

year survival. Significant to note - there was no improvement in

survival for people 70 and older.

More recently, drug companies have been trying to migrate there stage

IV drugs in to stage ii and iii settings. As a result, we are starting

to see some more studies in this area. In 2004, such was done with

oxaliplatin, a drug that provides substantial benefit to stage IV

patients when used with 5FU and Leucovorin. That study (about 3000

people) showed that 81% of stage ii have a five year survival rate if

5FFU and Leucovorin only are used. Add oxaliplatin, the survival rate

jumped to 85.1% (20% reduction in risk). I did not see anything that

addressed the effects of age. It also did not include an arm with no

chemotherapy at all, so it is hard to directly compare the two.

All in all, as you can see, chemo provides a modest insurance benefit

in the case of stage II. Because of the relative modestness of the

benefit and the lack of a lot of research, it is clearly not as

evidient as is the case in Stage III or IV, where I think you batten

down the hatches and dive into chemo headfirst. I think it boils down

to this - is six months worth of chemotherapy worth the modest

statistical benefit? Chemotherapy is not a free ride - some will get

pretty sick, so it might be a case where you will give up a substantial

quality of life for the duration of the treatments. And, if you are

getting older, those are six months that you will not get back.

Hope this helps - Joe

>

> I had colon cancer and my ascending colon was removed.

>

> With stage II cancer T3, N0,M0, the survival rate after 5 years is

85%.

>

> If I have chemo, after having a section of my colon removed, what

would

> that do to improve the survival rate. My age is 65.

>

> Please respond if you know the answer.

>

> Bob236@a...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:00:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

grogclan@... writes:

Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to your

health????

All the best,

Marty

But, Marty, so is NOT eating your broccoli, lying in the sun, riding in a

vehicle....LOL

Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

[Guest guest]

But lots more fun, huh, Jolene???

Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:07:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jehret@... writes:

More hazardous than dealing with cancer? LOL Well probably yes... Jolene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> your health????

>

> All the best,

> Marty

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:29:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

grogclan@... writes:

I guess it helps take one's mind off of the next chemo session, huh?

As you see the earth racing towards you, waiting for the chute to open, I

would imagine that your mind is fairly well occupied, if not completely

numbed with fear!!!!!

All the best,

Marty

Yes, Yes, Yes, Marty!!!

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery and vein

Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including severe

pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

[Guest guest]

Bob,

Every person's case is different but with me, I had stage 2 colon

cancer,T2 and nothing in the lymph nodes. I am 36 and was also told

that my survival rate after 5 years was 85%, with treatment it would

only change that by 3% so my Dr. didn't feel it necessary to get

treatment and go through all that for only a 3% difference, however it

still came down to my descion(sp) and I chose to go with the Dr.

opinion and not take the treatment!

Lori---

In colon_cancer_support , " " wrote:

>

> I had colon cancer and my ascending colon was removed.

>

> With stage II cancer T3, N0,M0, the survival rate after 5 years is

85%.

>

> If I have chemo, after having a section of my colon removed, what

would

> that do to improve the survival rate. My age is 65.

>

> Please respond if you know the answer.

>

> Bob236@a...

[Guest guest]

Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to your

health????

All the best,

Marty

Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

Audio Blog:

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Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> jehret@... writes:

>

>

> I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

> surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage IIIc

> with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

> here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I enjoy

> doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

> welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

>

>

>

>

> Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together

> sometime.

> Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

> jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

More hazardous than dealing with cancer? LOL Well probably yes... Jolene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> your

> health????

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

> Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

> Audio Blog:

> http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

> Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

>

> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > jehret@... writes:

> >

> >

> > I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

> > surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage

> IIIc

> > with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

> > here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I enjoy

> > doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

> > welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together

> > sometime.

> > Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

> > jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

> >

> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess it helps take one's mind off of the next chemo session, huh?

As you see the earth racing towards you, waiting for the chute to open, I

would imagine that your mind is fairly well occupied, if not completely

numbed with fear!!!!!

All the best,

Marty

Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

Audio Blog:

http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>>

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>> > jehret@... writes:

>> >

>> >

>> > I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

>> > surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage

>> IIIc

>> > with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I will be

>> > here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I

>> > enjoy

>> > doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

>> > welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together

>> > sometime.

>> > Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

>> > jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

>> >

>> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

>> > Caregiver to Glenn

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Well I haven't done it yet.... I figure it will be when I am through

with chemo, a celebration of life of a sort.. If I can survive cancer

and chemo I can do this as well. It all remains to be seen whether I

actually go through with it. LOL Jolene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> I guess it helps take one's mind off of the next chemo session, huh?

>

> As you see the earth racing towards you, waiting for the chute to open, I

> would imagine that your mind is fairly well occupied, if not completely

> numbed with fear!!!!!

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

> Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

> Audio Blog:

> http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

> Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

>

> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >> > jehret@... writes:

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

> >> > surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage

> >> IIIc

> >> > with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I

> will be

> >> > here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I

> >> > enjoy

> >> > doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

> >> > welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together

> >> > sometime.

> >> > Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

> >> > jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

> >> >

> >> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> >> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

If you would hear my daughter tell it, not like that at all. Is a

floating sensation and quite a rush. She loved it. JOlene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> I guess it helps take one's mind off of the next chemo session, huh?

>

> As you see the earth racing towards you, waiting for the chute to open, I

> would imagine that your mind is fairly well occupied, if not completely

> numbed with fear!!!!!

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

> Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

> Audio Blog:

> http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

> Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

>

> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > In a message dated 4/25/2005 4:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >> > jehret@... writes:

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > I can't answer that for you Bob, but in my 63 year old mind, not

> >> > surviving is NOT an option. I would take the 85% anyday. I am stage

> >> IIIc

> >> > with some lymph node involvement. Even if I can't get a cure I

> will be

> >> > here that much longer to enjoy my grand daughters and do things I

> >> > enjoy

> >> > doing. Still working on jumping out of a perfectly good airplane as

> >> > welll.... Hang in and hang on it is a bumpy ride... Jolene

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Do you want to skydive, too, Jolene?? Maybe we can do it together

> >> > sometime.

> >> > Funny...had to laugh at your post... Glenn says the same thing about

> >> > jumping out of a perfectly good airplane...LOL

> >> >

> >> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> >> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/26/2005 1:07:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

grogclan@... writes:

OH, right!!!!

NOW I remember that feeling of panic, the rapid heartbeat, the rush of

adrenalin.....as my wife slowly clears away the uneaten broccoli from the

plate in front of me...What a rush!!!!

Not to mention the absolute exhiliration of lying in the sun, naked of any

trace of.....SUNSCREEN!!!!!

Now I understand...

All the best,

Marty

ROFLMBO....Keep up that sense of humor, Marty...on this rocky road, it will

give you strength and take you far!!!

Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

[Guest guest]

OH, right!!!!

NOW I remember that feeling of panic, the rapid heartbeat, the rush of

adrenalin.....as my wife slowly clears away the uneaten broccoli from the

plate in front of me...What a rush!!!!

Not to mention the absolute exhiliration of lying in the sun, naked of any

trace of.....SUNSCREEN!!!!!

Now I understand...

All the best,

Marty

Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

Audio Blog:

http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:00:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> grogclan@... writes:

>

> Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> your

> health????

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

>

> But, Marty, so is NOT eating your broccoli, lying in the sun, riding in a

> vehicle....LOL

>

> Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

But not NEARLY as fun as leaving that broccoli on your plate, right????

All the best,

Marty

Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

Audio Blog:

http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

Podcast: http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

>

> But lots more fun, huh, Jolene???

>

>

> Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:07:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> jehret@... writes:

>

> More hazardous than dealing with cancer? LOL Well probably yes...

> Jolene

>

> Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

>> Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

>> your health????

>>

>> All the best,

>> Marty

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK, these bad jokes are slightly more hazardous to your health than

jumping out of airplanes. ;-)

Groan! arrghh!

Hey, wait a minute, I like broccoli! And my wife would be telling me

to clear away my own darn plate!

Miracles happen!

Cliff

> OH, right!!!!

> NOW I remember that feeling of panic, the rapid heartbeat, the rush

of

> adrenalin.....as my wife slowly clears away the uneaten broccoli

from the

> plate in front of me...What a rush!!!!

>

> Not to mention the absolute exhiliration of lying in the sun, naked

of any

> trace of.....SUNSCREEN!!!!!

>

> Now I understand...

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

> Israel News Radio - http://www.Israelnewsradio.net

> Audio Blog:

> http://www.israelnewsradio.net/the-marty-roberts-show.html

> Podcast:

http://www.israelnewsradio.net/podcast.html

>

> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:00:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > grogclan@z... writes:

> >

> > Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be

hazardous to

> > your

> > health????

> >

> > All the best,

> > Marty

> >

> >

> >

> > But, Marty, so is NOT eating your broccoli, lying in the sun,

riding in a

> > vehicle....LOL

> >

> > Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It certainly has to be.... LOL Jolene

Grandmommyandme@... wrote:

>

>

> But lots more fun, huh, Jolene???

>

>

> Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:07:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> jehret@... writes:

>

> More hazardous than dealing with cancer? LOL Well probably yes...

> Jolene

>

> Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> > Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> > your health????

> >

> > All the best,

> > Marty

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You got it Marty... LOL JOlene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> OH, right!!!!

> NOW I remember that feeling of panic, the rapid heartbeat, the rush of

> adrenalin.....as my wife slowly clears away the uneaten broccoli from the

> plate in front of me...What a rush!!!!

>

> Not to mention the absolute exhiliration of lying in the sun, naked of

> any

> trace of.....SUNSCREEN!!!!!

>

> Now I understand...

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

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> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:00:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > grogclan@... writes:

> >

> > Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> > your

> > health????

> >

> > All the best,

> > Marty

> >

> >

> >

> > But, Marty, so is NOT eating your broccoli, lying in the sun,

> riding in a

> > vehicle....LOL

> >

> > Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well I kinda like Broccoli but not everyday.. LOL Jolene

Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> But not NEARLY as fun as leaving that broccoli on your plate, right????

>

> All the best,

> Marty

>

>

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> Re: How much will Chemo Help?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > But lots more fun, huh, Jolene???

> >

> >

> > Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:07:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > jehret@... writes:

> >

> > More hazardous than dealing with cancer? LOL Well probably yes...

> > Jolene

> >

> > Marty and Ellen Grogin wrote:

> >> Don't you guys know that jumping out of airplanes can be hazardous to

> >> your health????

> >>

> >> All the best,

> >> Marty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >