Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 > > Just wondered if anyone else saw ER on E4 last night?! I was really > surprised at the storyline which was about a little boy who came into the > ER with measles and died. The doctors were all very pro the MMR and very > scathing towards the parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that > this is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in the USA?! > Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 Didn't see it, but... I was browsing a US teen mother forum today at babynet.com (yes I know I am not a teen mother but I look in every now and again) and there was a debate about the chicken pox vaccine because one of the young mums said she was going to refuse the cp vaccine for her baby and all the other mums were outraged. I knew that there was a chicken pox vaccine in the US but I was surprised by the strength of feeling about it. Some of the mothers on that forum are quite 'alternative' (co-sleeping/extended breastfeeding) and I guess I thought they'd be a bit questioning. I don't want to start up a big MMR debate or anything, but I am not sure I agree with the chickenpox vaccine. I do have personal experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing septicemia) but she got the all clear. Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the outcome been different. How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? Sorry for long-windedness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 > > Just wondered if anyone else saw ER on E4 last night?! I was really > surprised at the storyline which was about a little boy who came into the > ER with measles and died. The doctors were all very pro the MMR and very > scathing towards the parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that > this is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in the USA?! > Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 Didn't see it, but... I was browsing a US teen mother forum today at babynet.com (yes I know I am not a teen mother but I look in every now and again) and there was a debate about the chicken pox vaccine because one of the young mums said she was going to refuse the cp vaccine for her baby and all the other mums were outraged. I knew that there was a chicken pox vaccine in the US but I was surprised by the strength of feeling about it. Some of the mothers on that forum are quite 'alternative' (co-sleeping/extended breastfeeding) and I guess I thought they'd be a bit questioning. I don't want to start up a big MMR debate or anything, but I am not sure I agree with the chickenpox vaccine. I do have personal experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing septicemia) but she got the all clear. Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the outcome been different. How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? Sorry for long-windedness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 > > Just wondered if anyone else saw ER on E4 last night?! I was really > surprised at the storyline which was about a little boy who came into the > ER with measles and died. The doctors were all very pro the MMR and very > scathing towards the parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that > this is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in the USA?! > Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 Didn't see it, but... I was browsing a US teen mother forum today at babynet.com (yes I know I am not a teen mother but I look in every now and again) and there was a debate about the chicken pox vaccine because one of the young mums said she was going to refuse the cp vaccine for her baby and all the other mums were outraged. I knew that there was a chicken pox vaccine in the US but I was surprised by the strength of feeling about it. Some of the mothers on that forum are quite 'alternative' (co-sleeping/extended breastfeeding) and I guess I thought they'd be a bit questioning. I don't want to start up a big MMR debate or anything, but I am not sure I agree with the chickenpox vaccine. I do have personal experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing septicemia) but she got the all clear. Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the outcome been different. How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? Sorry for long-windedness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 , I haven't had much chance to reply on here as I only recently joined this list, plus my third baby is four weeks old today, but I wanted to reply as I'm quite worried about this chickenpox vaccine. I know it's not over here yet, but is used routinely in the US. I looked into it all recently when my two older boys both got chickenpox last Christmas/New Year aged 3 and 1. Fortunately, they didn't have any of the complications (sorry to hear about Tabby), but I also got it at 27 weeks pregnant. My GP was brilliant and I had to have four doses of the VZIG antibody, but they thought I'd still get it as I'd been exposed to both boys having it. I did get it and the GP immediately prescribed an anti-viral drug which helped after about 24 hours. I was still pretty ill just prior to getting it, but consider myself quite lucky - I'd read that it's fatal for a high percentage of pregnant women who get CP (but not many get it anyway because about 90% have had it as a child). It seems that the CP vaccine does not give life long immunity, so if it's given to children they may then actually get the disease as adults when it is so much more serious. Again it is the complications, notably pneumonia, that prove to be fatal. Apparently they are doing tests on 200 children at Sheffield University to add the chickenpox vaccine to the MMR...... I'd have thought there was already enough concern about having three in one without making it four nasty bugs in one shot!! Hannah PS. the baby seems to be fine despite the nasty antibody injections and anti-viral drugs I had to take - normally I try to avoid all medication during pregnancy, but this was unavoidable. I do have personal > experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old > she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a > complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed > 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it > has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the > worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing > septicemia) but she got the all clear. > Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby > getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the > outcome been different. > > How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? > > Sorry for long-windedness! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 , I haven't had much chance to reply on here as I only recently joined this list, plus my third baby is four weeks old today, but I wanted to reply as I'm quite worried about this chickenpox vaccine. I know it's not over here yet, but is used routinely in the US. I looked into it all recently when my two older boys both got chickenpox last Christmas/New Year aged 3 and 1. Fortunately, they didn't have any of the complications (sorry to hear about Tabby), but I also got it at 27 weeks pregnant. My GP was brilliant and I had to have four doses of the VZIG antibody, but they thought I'd still get it as I'd been exposed to both boys having it. I did get it and the GP immediately prescribed an anti-viral drug which helped after about 24 hours. I was still pretty ill just prior to getting it, but consider myself quite lucky - I'd read that it's fatal for a high percentage of pregnant women who get CP (but not many get it anyway because about 90% have had it as a child). It seems that the CP vaccine does not give life long immunity, so if it's given to children they may then actually get the disease as adults when it is so much more serious. Again it is the complications, notably pneumonia, that prove to be fatal. Apparently they are doing tests on 200 children at Sheffield University to add the chickenpox vaccine to the MMR...... I'd have thought there was already enough concern about having three in one without making it four nasty bugs in one shot!! Hannah PS. the baby seems to be fine despite the nasty antibody injections and anti-viral drugs I had to take - normally I try to avoid all medication during pregnancy, but this was unavoidable. I do have personal > experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old > she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a > complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed > 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it > has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the > worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing > septicemia) but she got the all clear. > Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby > getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the > outcome been different. > > How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? > > Sorry for long-windedness! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 , I haven't had much chance to reply on here as I only recently joined this list, plus my third baby is four weeks old today, but I wanted to reply as I'm quite worried about this chickenpox vaccine. I know it's not over here yet, but is used routinely in the US. I looked into it all recently when my two older boys both got chickenpox last Christmas/New Year aged 3 and 1. Fortunately, they didn't have any of the complications (sorry to hear about Tabby), but I also got it at 27 weeks pregnant. My GP was brilliant and I had to have four doses of the VZIG antibody, but they thought I'd still get it as I'd been exposed to both boys having it. I did get it and the GP immediately prescribed an anti-viral drug which helped after about 24 hours. I was still pretty ill just prior to getting it, but consider myself quite lucky - I'd read that it's fatal for a high percentage of pregnant women who get CP (but not many get it anyway because about 90% have had it as a child). It seems that the CP vaccine does not give life long immunity, so if it's given to children they may then actually get the disease as adults when it is so much more serious. Again it is the complications, notably pneumonia, that prove to be fatal. Apparently they are doing tests on 200 children at Sheffield University to add the chickenpox vaccine to the MMR...... I'd have thought there was already enough concern about having three in one without making it four nasty bugs in one shot!! Hannah PS. the baby seems to be fine despite the nasty antibody injections and anti-viral drugs I had to take - normally I try to avoid all medication during pregnancy, but this was unavoidable. I do have personal > experience of chickenpox complications - when Tabby was 8 months old > she was hospitalised with a staphyloccal skin infection she got as a > complication. It was really horrible, the infection was nicknamed > 'scalded skin syndrome' because the skin literally blisters like it > has been burnt. It was a really horrible 4 days in hospital as the > worry was the infection may have got into her blood (causing > septicemia) but she got the all clear. > Despite all of this I would still be unhappy about a future baby > getting a cp vaccine. Of course I'd probably say different had the > outcome been different. > > How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine?? > > Sorry for long-windedness! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 > The >doctors were all very pro the MMR and very scathing towards >the >parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that this >is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in >the USA?! >Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 I can say it's NOT the prevalent view and when it showed in the US, a couple of American groups I am on went BOOM. It's a huge debate and ER made a rather simplistic mess of it in an episode funded by a pharmaceutical company. One of the actors (don't remember which one since I don't watch it) refused to have anything to do with that storyline, as he has a child with autism. On the other hand, one woman on one of my groups, whose DH is a doctor, pointed out that if they were to do an unbiased version of the debate, they would probably have to take it out of the ER, since most of the medical community is firmly pro-vacc. Phyllis __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 > The >doctors were all very pro the MMR and very scathing towards >the >parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that this >is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in >the USA?! >Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 I can say it's NOT the prevalent view and when it showed in the US, a couple of American groups I am on went BOOM. It's a huge debate and ER made a rather simplistic mess of it in an episode funded by a pharmaceutical company. One of the actors (don't remember which one since I don't watch it) refused to have anything to do with that storyline, as he has a child with autism. On the other hand, one woman on one of my groups, whose DH is a doctor, pointed out that if they were to do an unbiased version of the debate, they would probably have to take it out of the ER, since most of the medical community is firmly pro-vacc. Phyllis __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 > The >doctors were all very pro the MMR and very scathing towards >the >parents who had chosen not to vaccinate. I know that this >is only TV but wondered if that is the prevalent view in >the USA?! >Kate SAHM to Jake 12/05/99 I can say it's NOT the prevalent view and when it showed in the US, a couple of American groups I am on went BOOM. It's a huge debate and ER made a rather simplistic mess of it in an episode funded by a pharmaceutical company. One of the actors (don't remember which one since I don't watch it) refused to have anything to do with that storyline, as he has a child with autism. On the other hand, one woman on one of my groups, whose DH is a doctor, pointed out that if they were to do an unbiased version of the debate, they would probably have to take it out of the ER, since most of the medical community is firmly pro-vacc. Phyllis __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2001 Report Share Posted April 22, 2001 How do others feel about a chickenpox vaccine??<< Luckily all 4 of mine have had it so I wouldn't have to make a decision. Had it in two sets of 2. When the older two had it, DS1 was very ill and we had to call a doctor out. Turned out he had a bacterial infection as well and anti-biotics dealt with that. The other kids were covered in spots and very grumpy but no other ill effects. I don't think I would bother with the vaccine. Lorraine, Mum to 4 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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