Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with Kefir? Also, was it a difficult process intro'ing Kefir? This past weekend I spent in the ER due to a bad batch of yogurt. Since I am still in the throws of being post bowel surgery my surgeon is ultimately in charge of my case. None of the docs except a young resident thought there was a connection to the yogurt. No one really knows what happened to me. It was awful none of the less especially considering I have been feeling very good bowel wise lately. This has reaffirmed some of my worries about how powerful probiotics are. I only truly experience more of a sense of well being when I have added probiotics in my diet especially from Food sources like SCD yogurt and saurkraut/fermented veggies. Any experience greatly appreciated! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 > I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success > with Kefir? > > Also, was it a difficult process intro'ing Kefir? > > This past weekend I spent in the ER due to a bad batch of yogurt. > Since I am still in the throws of being post bowel surgery my > surgeon is ultimately in charge of my case. None of the docs except > a young resident thought there was a connection to the yogurt. I was a little confused by your explanation. It was bad yogurt because you put too much probiotic powder into it before it began fermenting? Yet you've been eating yogurt all along? There's a limit to how much bacteria can grow, in any case, since the lactose in the milk is limited, and after that, it can't support any more bacteria population growth, er, for lack of a better term. So it's hard to know why that would cause that level of nausea. Did you eat anything else that might have caused it? Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 > I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success > with Kefir? > > Also, was it a difficult process intro'ing Kefir? > > This past weekend I spent in the ER due to a bad batch of yogurt. > Since I am still in the throws of being post bowel surgery my > surgeon is ultimately in charge of my case. None of the docs except > a young resident thought there was a connection to the yogurt. I was a little confused by your explanation. It was bad yogurt because you put too much probiotic powder into it before it began fermenting? Yet you've been eating yogurt all along? There's a limit to how much bacteria can grow, in any case, since the lactose in the milk is limited, and after that, it can't support any more bacteria population growth, er, for lack of a better term. So it's hard to know why that would cause that level of nausea. Did you eat anything else that might have caused it? Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Mara, > I was a little confused by your explanation. It was bad yogurt > because you put too much probiotic powder into it before > it began fermenting? Yes. > Yet you've been eating yogurt all along? No this was a new batch- I always use the same amount of culture. This has happened to me in the past when I used too little culture or when my actual yogurt went bad- it's just the severity even once causing a mini bowel obstruction was never this bad. Could be because I am still healing post surgically that my reaction was so violent. My docs do not think I got food poisoning they think it is just a fluke and will treat it as such unless it happens again. > There's a limit to how much bacteria > can grow, in any case, since the lactose in the milk > is limited, and after that, it can't support any more > bacteria population growth, er, for lack of a better > term. So it's hard to know why that would cause that > level of nausea. > > Did you eat anything else that might have > caused it? I had some salmon puree that I made the day before that I ate. Seemed to be ok. I am very sensitive to yogurt and probiotics it has been one of my biggest challenges on the SCD finding that balance of intro and how much I can use. It is always this crazy thing that can make me violently ill and yet cause serious destruction like causing me to end up in the hospital. LDN mitigated this response a couple of times so I believe it has something to do with my immune system. I just don't know what else did this. I got a belly ache about an hour after eating the yogurt. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Mara, > I was a little confused by your explanation. It was bad yogurt > because you put too much probiotic powder into it before > it began fermenting? Yes. > Yet you've been eating yogurt all along? No this was a new batch- I always use the same amount of culture. This has happened to me in the past when I used too little culture or when my actual yogurt went bad- it's just the severity even once causing a mini bowel obstruction was never this bad. Could be because I am still healing post surgically that my reaction was so violent. My docs do not think I got food poisoning they think it is just a fluke and will treat it as such unless it happens again. > There's a limit to how much bacteria > can grow, in any case, since the lactose in the milk > is limited, and after that, it can't support any more > bacteria population growth, er, for lack of a better > term. So it's hard to know why that would cause that > level of nausea. > > Did you eat anything else that might have > caused it? I had some salmon puree that I made the day before that I ate. Seemed to be ok. I am very sensitive to yogurt and probiotics it has been one of my biggest challenges on the SCD finding that balance of intro and how much I can use. It is always this crazy thing that can make me violently ill and yet cause serious destruction like causing me to end up in the hospital. LDN mitigated this response a couple of times so I believe it has something to do with my immune system. I just don't know what else did this. I got a belly ache about an hour after eating the yogurt. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with KefirWhat's the difference between yogurt and Kefir? Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with KefirWhat's the difference between yogurt and Kefir? Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Kefir is very advanced. I tried it but couldn't get passed the taste--like buttermilk. Didn't bother me but have to be very careful with what you tolerate because it could have easily gone the other way. Debbie 40 cd  Kefir is like drinkable yogurt but tastes like thick buttermilk with medicine--not sure on the exact difference besides more probiotic strains I think.  I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with Kefir What's the difference between yogurt and Kefir? Pour Dieu, pour terre, Alyssa 15 UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 SCD June 2009 (restarted) 20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Kefir is very advanced. I tried it but couldn't get passed the taste--like buttermilk. Didn't bother me but have to be very careful with what you tolerate because it could have easily gone the other way. Debbie 40 cd  Kefir is like drinkable yogurt but tastes like thick buttermilk with medicine--not sure on the exact difference besides more probiotic strains I think.  I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with Kefir What's the difference between yogurt and Kefir? Pour Dieu, pour terre, Alyssa 15 UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 SCD June 2009 (restarted) 20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 I love the taste of kefir! I tried it before going into scd, and it seemed very effective/powerful! Then I discovered scd, and I stopped kefir. I don't miss it so much, because scd yogourt is also very satisfying. I don't know the details about kefir. Is it legal? Should it be home fermented? 24h? Chronic D since 2005 SCD April 29 Intro May 29 Low-carb scd Jun 11 > > > > > > > I was wondering how many IBD'ers (I have Crohn's) have had success with > > Kefir > > > > > > What's the difference between yogurt and Kefir? > > > > Pour Dieu, pour terre, > > Alyssa 15 > > UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008 > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > 20mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Kefir has different strains of bacteria then yogurt. Elaine said that kefir was advanced for that reason. You also have to ferment an extra day then normal to use up the lactose in the milk. On Dom's site he has instructions for scd, I think Seth does also. Katy I don't know the details about kefir.Is it legal?Should it be home fermented?24h? ____________________________________________________________ Save on a home Heating and Cooling System. Click Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Kefir has different strains of bacteria then yogurt. Elaine said that kefir was advanced for that reason. You also have to ferment an extra day then normal to use up the lactose in the milk. On Dom's site he has instructions for scd, I think Seth does also. Katy I don't know the details about kefir.Is it legal?Should it be home fermented?24h? ____________________________________________________________ Save on a home Heating and Cooling System. Click Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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