Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 What a wonderful explanation! Thank you, I appreciate it. I was wondering because for me the two numbers indicated two different things. I am very athletic and workout daily and according to my BMI (25) I am overweight. But according to my Body Fat Percentage (18.7%) I am not overweight. You are right though, we Americans like numbers....an easier way to classify someone, and much easier than actually getting to know someone! Thanks again Re: BMI vs Bodyfat percentage Bodyfat percentage is how fat you REALLY are. (Don't take it on a Tanita scale though because that scale only measures the bottom half of the body and comes out low for a guy and high for most women). BMI is how fat the government has decided people are this week. It's loosely based on the old Met Life tables only unlike the Met Life tables (which were based on math calculations and NOT the Met Life build studies), BMI does not make accounting for gender, body type, muscularity, and bone size. So this means that most Olympic athletes who have a bodyfat percentage of 5-10 percent are obese or fat according to BMI standards. What BMI was originally intended for was that overweight can be a sign of other things wrong. So if the BMI was high, this was a red flag for the medical provider to check further for health problems. Of course, like the public did with IQ scores (meant to show possible problems in school studies) in the 50's , the public now uses BMI as a guide to beauty, morality and total health. Which is something that GOOD medical providers DO NOT DO. But of course, we love to classify people by numbers. I liked IQ better because I do better with that than I do with BMI. Additionally whereas everyone has a scale and can measure weight and determine BMI, measuring bodyfat has its own set of problems. The most accurate is when you get dunked in a tank - this isn't much fun assuming you can find the tank and there are trucks which frequent gyms which offer this service for about $25 bucks. And dunking is, of course, messy. The second most accurate is the have someone who knows what they are doing, measure with calipers - they usually do three parts of the body and decide by a formula what the bodyfat percentage might be. Tanita scales work only if you apply the formula on the result - which I happen to have somewhere if anyone is interested. This formula was derrived from a friend of mine getting dunked and then going home and weighing on a tanita scale. The BMI shows ONLY if you are " overweight " but not if you are fat. Most of us with a lot of muscle and /or big bones are overweight. My BMI is 34 which is " obese " but my bodyfat percentage is 29 which is in the normal range. Generally speaking one should look at the bodyfat percentage to see if one has to lose weight " for health " . Sue PS: according to the Met Life build studies, the 5'4 " woman of 49 least likely to die, weighed 194. (Gaesser, 2002) does anybody know > > > What's the difference between BMI and body fat percentage? > > I'm confused! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Yeah, the experts have debunked the BMI theory over and again. There's a poster at Curves that shows two guys at 250lbs. One is fat and the other is muscular. YET, their BMI is identical. Um....hello! =) Your Body Fat Percentage is great! I think fit people can tell pretty quickly w/ the the age-old " mirror test " that they're not overweight. =) 166/149.6/130 (ATH- 175) Re: BMI vs Bodyfat percentage Bodyfat percentage is how fat you REALLY are. (Don't take it on a Tanita scale though because that scale only measures the bottom half of the body and comes out low for a guy and high for most women). BMI is how fat the government has decided people are this week. It's loosely based on the old Met Life tables only unlike the Met Life tables (which were based on math calculations and NOT the Met Life build studies), BMI does not make accounting for gender, body type, muscularity, and bone size. So this means that most Olympic athletes who have a bodyfat percentage of 5-10 percent are obese or fat according to BMI standards. What BMI was originally intended for was that overweight can be a sign of other things wrong. So if the BMI was high, this was a red flag for the medical provider to check further for health problems. Of course, like the public did with IQ scores (meant to show possible problems in school studies) in the 50's , the public now uses BMI as a guide to beauty, morality and total health. Which is something that GOOD medical providers DO NOT DO. But of course, we love to classify people by numbers. I liked IQ better because I do better with that than I do with BMI. Additionally whereas everyone has a scale and can measure weight and determine BMI, measuring bodyfat has its own set of problems. The most accurate is when you get dunked in a tank - this isn't much fun assuming you can find the tank and there are trucks which frequent gyms which offer this service for about $25 bucks. And dunking is, of course, messy. The second most accurate is the have someone who knows what they are doing, measure with calipers - they usually do three parts of the body and decide by a formula what the bodyfat percentage might be. Tanita scales work only if you apply the formula on the result - which I happen to have somewhere if anyone is interested. This formula was derrived from a friend of mine getting dunked and then going home and weighing on a tanita scale. The BMI shows ONLY if you are " overweight " but not if you are fat. Most of us with a lot of muscle and /or big bones are overweight. My BMI is 34 which is " obese " but my bodyfat percentage is 29 which is in the normal range. Generally speaking one should look at the bodyfat percentage to see if one has to lose weight " for health " . Sue PS: according to the Met Life build studies, the 5'4 " woman of 49 least likely to die, weighed 194. (Gaesser, 2002) does anybody know > > > What's the difference between BMI and body fat percentage? > > I'm confused! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 I agree! My BMI is 40, but BFP is about 28. According to BMI charts, I should weigh about 150...according to BFP calculations, my lean weight is about 180. I can also remember being 200 at age 17 looking a lot different than 200 2 years ago (age 25) after I had 2 kids and was more sedentary! hehe D. Re: BMI vs Bodyfat percentage The BMI shows ONLY if you are " overweight " but not if you are fat. Most of us with a lot of muscle and /or big bones are overweight. My BMI is 34 which is " obese " but my bodyfat percentage is 29 which is in the normal range. Generally speaking one should look at the bodyfat percentage to see if one has to lose weight " for health " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Actually BMI 25 is usually the top of " ideal weight " range (at least according to WW) so looks like you are fine on all fronts! Sue does anybody know > > > > > > What's the difference between BMI and body fat percentage? > > > > I'm confused! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Well Thank you! Re: Re: BMI vs Bodyfat percentage Actually BMI 25 is usually the top of " ideal weight " range (at least according to WW) so looks like you are fine on all fronts! Sue does anybody know > > > > > > What's the difference between BMI and body fat percentage? > > > > I'm confused! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Wow, welcome to the club.. I thought I was the only one out there with a high BMI and a normal bodyfat level! Sending a hug... I knew why I love this list! hugs, Sue Re: BMI vs Bodyfat percentage > > > > > The BMI shows ONLY if you are " overweight " but not if you are fat. Most of > us with a lot of muscle and /or big bones are overweight. > > My BMI is 34 which is " obese " but my bodyfat percentage is 29 which is in > the normal range. > > Generally speaking one should look at the bodyfat percentage to see if one > has to lose weight " for health " . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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